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The audio dramas are so fucking good. Even if Felix isn’t in them, Brian Blessed’s performance as Gotrek never stops being entertaining.
While I will not spoil the details of their Slayer Oaths, I WILL say that Gotrek and Snorri both have EXCELLENT reasons to be Slayers and that the two are practically brothers. I will also say that Snorri is one of the single-most depressing fictional characters I have ever read about and I HIGHLY recommend reading about both Snorri and Gotrek on your own.
I'm super curious about Snorri's story, but I'm also scared to actually learn what it is lol
@@TheLegitWeebs The audience is never explicitly told what happened to Gotrek or Snorri that made them decide to take their Slayer Oath, but we find out enough to fill in the blanks, and it becomes very apparent why they felt the need to become Slayers.
I can’t remember which book, one of the later ones, maybe zombieslayer(?) but I was quite surprised how poignantly snorri’s story was handled.
The airship makaisson built isn't in the warhammer games (yet, please dwarf dlc CA) but there is a mod for it called the thunderbardge which adds makaisson (who has his airship as a mount) and the thunderbardge as a recruitable unit
Edit: LETS GO ITS FINALLY HERE
I’m about 4 books into the series and they’re all very good so far. SkavenSlayer is probably my favourite. Thanquol, packs of Stormvermin, and plenty of Plague Monks are all attempting to take over Nuln in different ways so it strikes this really weird balance of being respectively hilarious, terrifying, and really really disgusting.
Daemonslayer was my favorite, personally. The final stand in Karag Dum is absolutely freaking epic and pretty much everyone involved has a moment to shine.
@@willl676that one’s definitely up there too.
14:24 Teclis, brother to Tyrion, is a high elf wizard of Aenarions bloodline, aenarion was the first phoenix king during the first coming of chaos and was one of the reasons for why the elves managed to survive. However in desperation aenarion took the sword of Khaine from its shrine when he heard his wife and children had been killed (all gods including the chaos gods were screamin at him that picking up the sword was a bad idea but the did it anyways). Due to this aenarions bloodline was cursed with the curse of Khaine, his descendants are powerful and mighty but there is always something negative too, in Tyrions case this was berserker rages and in teclis case it was an incredibly frail and sickly body, although his magic was immensely powerful. Teclis was convinced that to let the high elves survive they should work together with other species, he aided magnus the pious during the great war against chaos with the twelfth everchosen avazar Khul and was responsible for the founding of the colleges of magic in altdorf.
20:14 dwarfs are indeed pretty magic resistant, the way they use magic is by forcing it into runes, the cannot use it themselves (unless they are chaos dwarfs but that is a whole other can of worms)
The dwarfs of warhammer being resistant to magic and the way they use magic in the form Runes is one of the many things I’ve always loved about them.
The way magic works in warhammer is just very cool in general.
Gotrek & Felix and the Ciaphas Cain novels are some of the best Warhammer books out there.
Both those book series are great fr.
"That moment" about Snorri is in the Dragonslayer book. I was listening to the audiobook at work and just kind of stopped, stood in place, and paused that audiobook. Pancrease is not kidding when he says Snorri's backstory is incredibly depressing. As for Malakai, the armored Hiddenburg he builds isn't a background thing and is actually a major plot point in several of the books.
I recommend reading them, even if you don't have any knowledge of Warhammer. They are very good introductory stories into the setting because Gotrek and Felix are in no way major players by both accident and choice. As such, while their actions make them heroes, Gotrek's death oath means he has no desire for laurels or praise, so he keeps on moving.
Thanquil blows up friendlies:
" Master-sir! Those were friendly-ours! "
Thanquil wordlessly drops bomb on the survivors: " It even funnier-hilarious second time! YES-YES! "
I've read a lot of these books and it is an awesome series, it truly shows how different the warhammer world and its denizens are and how much variety there exists in it
As a general rule, characters in 40K are more powerful than those in Fantasy. Its an issue with power scaling, it's mentioned in Pancreas's other video about Fantasy vs 40K, but basically the same threats in 40K capable of destroying a planet can struggle to take over a single city in Fantasy. Orks in Fantasy are held at bay with sharp sticks and single shot gunpowder weapons, while Orks in 40K can shrug off lasers and survive a shot from a RPG machine gun.
So characters like Gotrek, Nagash, and Lord Kroak who are all individually strong enough to defeat a Primarch, are pretty damn frightening. If they ever get transported to 40K and boosted in scale to compete in that power level, they would be god-like. Gotrek could likely solo a Black Crusade or a Tyranid Hive Fleet. Nagash would rival a Chaos God. And Lord Kroak would be the single most powerful being in the setting, likely surpassing the Emperor.
😅😮😮
27:31, Be'lakor, the dark master, first of the damned, first daemon prince, a being that haunts the shadows after being punished by the chaos gods for his hubris
And once was defeated by regimen of scinks on razordons, that basically burry him under pile rocks that they thrown.
@@user-Pessimizm yep
in warhammer fantasy they sent a literal war-god to take on the everchosen when they should have sent one short, angry man
Unfortunately, even if someone in GW had this bright idea and act on it, big chaos and cash loving bosses would order to retkon it into Archaon victory. I mean, in initial End Times, before last climatic battle, Grimgor Ironhide a.k.a Da Best fought with Archaon, kick his ass and walk away looking for someone else to fight. Big bosses decided that it is unbecoming of their favorite child to lose like that, so lore was rewritten into Archaon victory even with loss of one of his artifacts. So I fear even Gotrek would end up with same treatment.
@@user-PessimizmSaying Grimgor fought him is a bit much. Grimgor literally attacked him while Archaon was duelling someone else and wasn't looking (he also wasn't expecting his ally to backstab him at that moment).
17:34 Max is a wizard of the light order, one of the eight colleges of magic that studies the white wind of magic Hysh, the winds are everywhere in the warhammer world and are attracted to all kinds of things, Hysh is verry difficult to gather or perceive and is attracted to things like faith and devotion. It is incredibly powerful and can be used to protect against supernatural beings or deal incredible destructive damage to foes. Light wizards are massively anti-chaos.
Every species has different ways of using the eight winds, however in the empire where once traditions of hedge wizards existed, now the only legal way to practice magic is if you are a student of the colleges of magic, founded by teclis, he taught these wizards that humans could only handle 1 wind at a time and divided them in eight colleges, each dedicated to the study and use of one of the eight winds. each college has its own culture, traits and so on.
Well now you have watch PancreasNoWork explain the glory that is Ciaphas Cain.
the book series that made me fall in love with Warhammer Fantasy. MAde me love it more than 40k.
"Nothing like some bloodshed, to work up an apetite!"
Gotreks ultimate fate is to go solo the primarchs in 40k
Honestly, I hope Felix IS alive and not a Stormcast because that'd be utterly badass.
Unfortunately they've all but confirmed he's dead, though apparently not a Stormcast.
@@lich109 Now, I'm not 100% sure, but I remember that in Ghoulslayer, an AoS Gotrek book, he goes to Shyish, the realm of Death, and meet his ancestors as spirits. He realized that those who died in the World-that-was are still in Shyish and ask them to find Felix.
And the spirits don't find him.
So if Felix isn't at the one place were all the dead of the world-that-was are... He's most likely alive, somewhere.
@@Scarycrow89 You're slightly misremembering, at one point he asks somebody to help find Felix and apparently he does, but Felix is trapped somewhere so their conversation is cut short.
@@lich109 Wait, so Felix is 100% alive in Ghoulslayer?
@lich109 literally just listened to that part as an audio book at work today, you are almost completely right. Gotrek meets someone who offers him a chance to speak to a spirit from his past and Gotrek asks him to speak with Felix, he basically only gets to say how Grimnir betrayed him and Felix just asks him to take revenge before the conversation is cut short as someone else has intervened in the 'spiritual connection' or whatnot...
Ah yes, the story of a dude called Yeager and his murder machine honorary sibling fighting deadly monsters that no mortal man could hope of besting.
The thirsting of Zabbia for Felix in “Serpent Queen” is absolutely hilarious, especially given her “situation”. And on the topic of horny Tomb Queens, and this might just be me, but regardless, I swear that Khalida had similar thoughts as her, but unlike her herald, Khalida had an actual filter whenever she spoke or thought.
Also he forgot to add two other characters to the main secondary characters…
The first is Kat aka Katerina aka Felix’s future wife who wanted to go adventuring with Felix and Gotrek but Felix said no for obvious reasons. She actually saved Felix when they first met from a Khorne follower.
The other being Otto Jaeger, the brother of Felix who got letters from Felix to “hold on to” until Felix returned to publish as a book, but in stead published them as a incredibly successful books series called “My Travels with Gotrek” mostly due to the sheer unbelievability of what they went through that (I think) it was believed that Felix was just making stuff up and no one thought it was actually true in the slightest.
Additionally there is Melenath Deathblade a Drhukii who wanted Gotreks rune axe. She is basically female Malus Darkblade who became a permanent companion to Gotrek in AOS and was actually kinda fun to read in books.
It's Witchblade, nor deathblade. Her adventure with gotrek abruptly ended in soulslayer but i won't spoil how unless you asked
I had heard she died, but haven’t gotten to that book yet.
Man the gotrek and Felix books are fantastic. They are on audible up to book 11 if you like to listen to them instead.. book club episode lol?..
Ngl, we were planning on doing a book club type thing over on our podcast channel once that launches. It'd be for manga and webtoons though, but I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of doing a discussion piece here on the main channel at some point.
The Stormcast Eternals are actually all of the _dead_ heroes from Warhammer Fantasy. Basically, Sigmar made a deal with Nagash where Sigmar could cherry-pick the souls of a few heroes to serve as his champions in the fight against Chaos. Nagash, being allied to Sigmar at the time and seeing no immediate downside to this arrangement, reluctantly agreed to do his good deed for the millennium and help Sigmar. However, Nagash is a goddamn weasel and figured out that even if he can't take the Stormcasts back from Sigmar directly, he's still the God of Death and thus he's able to claim enough of a Stormcast's soul each time one dies that eventually they will lose themselves completely and return to his service.
As for Gotrek's quest to find Felix? He has yet to do so, but Felix's ultimate fate during the End Times is a mystery and it's entirely possible that Felix is still alive somewhere.
Only time will tell I suppose.
That's not at all what happened or what Stormcasts are. Some Stormcasts are people that died in The World That Was (aka. the WHF world) but that's a minority. The majority of all Stormcasts are people that where born and died in the Mortal Realms. He also didn't ask Nagash for those souls and even if he did he wouldn't have gotten them since Nagash is extremely petty when it comes to souls. The dude considers HEALING to be a crime worthy of eternal suffering and pain just because it keeps people alive and thus their souls away from him. The idea of him giving anyone souls is absurdly OOC. We also know that the Reforging is naturally damaging the souls of those who have to go through it. That said, Nagash is one of the things that can actually stop a Stormcast from going back to Azyr if he's around them.
@@pile-o-nonsense3688 Well that's the thing. Nagash is the God of Death now, so Sigmar had to go through Nagash in order to create the Stormcast, and in the early days of the Mortal Realms the souls of the dead from Warhammer Fantasy were basically all Sigmar had to work with because his living followers in the Mortal Realms either weren't dying because they were too badass or they weren't notable enough to become Stormcast in the first place. Nagash WAS allied with Sigmar in those early days, and he was obviously aware of what Sigmar was doing and didn't fight him over it at the time because Chaos was coming back and Sigmar needed an army, and Nagash simply allowing something like that to happen given how anal he is about declaring all of the souls of the dead as his property is as good as him openly accepting the proposal.
@@Brutalyte616 Again, he didn't. The Mortal Realms both have a higher population and are more dangerous then the WHF world ever was so Sigmar was never, ever short on people to turn into Stormcasts.
Nagash was also never involved with the creation of the Stormcasts as Grungni and Sigmar on their own came up with that idea and made it work. While he is a god of Shyish, that doesn't mean that anything that has something to do with souls has to involve him f.e. Grungni flat out locked Nagash out of the Duardin afterlife even after the later beat Gazul, he never got his hands on the souls of most orruks either because Gorkamorka cheats by being the greenskin afterlife itself thanks to being an Elemental Deity and thus a living idea which hijacks Shyish's natural ability to create afterlifes based on people's faith and the new aelf pantheon never even bothered to ask him for help when it came to taking souls out of Slaanesh.
Ah, Fantasies Asterix and Obelix.
The age of mythology tune takes me back
Huh nice that you are reacting to a vid talking about Gotrek & Felix! I been revisiting this book series on Audible recently and love every moment of it.
One of the very first books I started reading when getting into Warhammer Fantasy Battles.
If you want something a bit more dark and edgy, I can also suggest the malus darkblade novels. It's a really fun adventure and a look into dark elf culture ;)
That's one of the dlc lords in Total War Warhammer right? Constantly struggling against the demon could make for some interesting stories.
@@TheLegitWeebs he is, he came in a vs pack against deathmaster snikch. Which is a bit odd since they don't have a notable rivalry in lore at all as far as I know
If there was one video I would recommend from PancreasNoWork it would be his "What if the Chaos Gods Were Starved of Power ". If not that then his HaloHammer video series where he takes the Covenent, Forerunners, Flood, and the UNCS from Halo and talks about how they would do in 40K. I'm not sure how much you know about Halo but if your interested I believe their worth watching.
Gotrek the badass that outlived the world, and felix the womanizer. W duo
There was actual controversy in medieval times about taxes on windows that was met with houses being build with fewer windows, which really didn't help the inhabitants.
Stormcasts aren’t engineered to lose their emotions, it’s a known flaw that occurs over multiple Reforgings that Sigmar and Grugni are trying to fix.
You k ow that Heinrich Kemmler is an OP wizard when he was one of the foes that came closest to actually killing Gotrek, extra impressive because Gotrek is a dwarf and has natural protection against magic and has the axe of Grimmnir which gives even more protection against it
It's mostly Krell but yeah kemmler is pretty strong too that got mishandled severely during the end times
@@hoshi314 who didn't?
If you want to go on an adventure, you take the Fellowship from Tolkien. If you want to go on a setting defining quest, get Gotrek and the gang (a good name for a band by the way).
You might be wondering why an engineering genius is in the Slayers. That's because one of the highest sins to the Dwarves for Fantasy is violating tradition. And to invent in a most heinous violation. To create an entirely new class of war machine, even one with obvious potential like an armored airship, and see it accepted in less than a century was only possible with him entering the Slayers. In a way, Dwarf craftsmen are akin to the Mechanicus. This is how things are done, because this is how they have been done, and this is how things will continue to be done. An inventor is inherently a dangerous radical and an outcast at best. A living stain on family honor past and future at worst.... unless they become a Slayer.
slayers are way too cool in general and lore master of sotek and andy law have a great podcast episode about slayers and why they are. it is such an interesting aspect of the dawi
Khazuk Khazuk Khazuk-ha. Gotrek is basically a god in AOS almost as strong as any of the other gods thus if we assume that the chaos gods are the same level in fantasy and 40k and he is close to their strenght it would be fair to assume he could beat a primarch on chaos juice
I can’t wait for him to look at nagash or the sons of behemoth
If you have time and patience, I recommend the Lorebeards podcast.
In particular, “The Introduction to Warhammer Fantasy”
And
“Warhammer: The Old World, What Lore has Changed”
But a fair warning: These are pretty long videos.
ive read the first couple of books hwen i was a youngter. nerver managed to have them all though. oh what id give for a full series on my bookshelf. but alas, i am not rich. glad to see someone else watch pancreasnowork. hes legit/10. except for that I think he simps for aeldari.
xD A little simping can be forgiven
If you haven't gotten into Warhammer Fantasy, I would highly HIGHLY recommend Gotrek and Felix. They're great reads (or listens, if you're using audible), very entertaining and beginner friendly.
I been playing warhammer 3 for about a year now and I can confirm that I would rather chop off my arm than fightgotrik and Felix.
The Stormcast Eternal? That detail about them becoming emotionless is because they literally lose pieces of their souls every single time they die after becoming Stormcasts, and this happens due to a mix of the Stormforging process having issues and Nagash being such a petty asshole that he just yoinks pieces of their souls.
And yes, it sounds suspiciously like GW tried ripping off Dark Souls.
What makes Thanquols letters funny is that they're filled with grammatical mistakes, skaven words, naming and insulting the skaven he's targeting, and praising himself.
Everything I hear about Thanquol just makes me want to cheer him on and see how he fails xD.
@@TheLegitWeebs Even funnier is that he believes 100% that they think it's from a human, even congratulating himself for "tricking" them to do his bidding (and at no point does he consider that selling out his allies and their plans might be a bad idea).
you can power compare them rather easily. it's called the bloodthirster scale. since demon's show up in warhammer 40k, warhammer fantasy, and warhammer age of sigmar. the best way to power scale characters from these series is to simply compare their feats against a similar kind of demon, in this case, a bloodthirster. why the humble thirster? because khorne doesn't cheat or overpower his dudes. each one is roughly the same power level each time for the best fights and slaughters.
When a stormcast die to many times he loses his memory and emosions
Well, there's a bit more to that:
The probelm with reforging is that it damages the soul which is then repaired by the people in charge of the process or at least as good as they can. This leaves less of the original soul and it keeps on getting worse. This can lead to a ton of different things and both the loss of memories and emotions can happen. On the other hand, a Stormcast could also be reforged and suddenly remember things they forgot or feel emotions stronger then they eve did before. They could turn into a mindless lightning automaton but they could just as likely turn into a complete loon who's covered in trinkets taken from dead people because they think that these people will otherwise be forgotten by anybody else.
How a Stormcast is influenced by the reforging is also heavily depending on who they where in their mortal life: If they where often angry and have a strong connection to their anger it will often lead to that emotion becomes kind of "resistand" to the reforging. This can lead to them being eventually nothing but angry all the time because it's the only emotion that is eventually left as the rest got lost.
Generally though, the best way to describe it is like sharpening a pencil: The more you do it, the less you have but the tip becomes more pointy too until it breaks off.
I haven't read any G&F books, but thanks to her somewhat recent addition to the Total War Warhammer 3 roster, I'm pretty sure I know what major spoiler he's talking about.
I know you've been looking into TW Warhammer content (sticking with WH2 should be fine for this) but if you want to stay spoiler free for Ulrika, don't look too closely at her character card in WH3
lets see if he reacts to total warhammer 3 using heroes only
We don’t talk about warhammer odyssey
Ah, it's one of those games... I see.
Age of Sigmar audiobooks have great voice acting. Multiple voice actors and Brian Blessed as Gotrek is amazing.
There is a clip of Gotrek ACCIDENTALLY INTIMIDATING A GODBEAST. Really sold the audiobook for me.
To anyone interested search Gotrek Badass Boast
If you're wondering what the powerscaling is between fantasy and 40k, most blades that have any magical property whatsoever can break a chainsword in half and most named characters could whoop their 40k counterparts. For example archaon could beat the living shit out of Abbadon if he so wished and i wouldn't be surprised if Gotrek could solo demon primarch Angron in under 3 minutes