Open Gate Changes Everything - so much MORE than 16:9!!
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- What is Open Gate, and why should you care? In this video, learn about Open Gate mode on the LUMIX GH6, and why if you deliver content both in 16;9 and 9;16, then you should DEFINITELY be shooting in Open Gate!
UPDATE: The LUMIX S1 also has Open Gate, in the form of (for larger-than-4K), "6K" 5952*3968 (3:2) 24p as well as a "5.4K" 5376*3584 (3:2) 30p modes! Both are 4:2:0.
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00:00 Start
00:44 What is Open Gate?
02:55 Finding Open Gate in GH6
04:33 LUMIX cameras that shoot Open Gate
05:16 Open Gate in action, project intro
05:45 GH6 rigging for the shoot
07:26 Editing in Resolve
17:56 Final sample footage, 16:9 and 9:16
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UPDATE: The LUMIX S1 also has Open Gate, in the form of (for larger-than-4K), there's "6K" 5952*3968 (3:2) 24p as well as a "5.4K" 5376*3584 (3:2) 30p modes! Both are 4:2:0.
What do you think; are you intrigued to start shooting in Open Gate? With the GH6 firmware 2.0 released on July 5 2022, you can even do 4:3 5.8K RAW with the Ninja V+!
Will the Ninja V+ work with Canon R5 using this 4:3 and later punch in to use 16x9 or 9x16?
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@PhotoJoseph So is the same on the S5? I it seen it has 4:3 anamorphic mode with a apsc crop.
Great video, as always! One correction: GH5 II shot anamorphic 6k, not 5k.
Well, sort of. I don't recall what I said in the video but here are the two cameras - the GH6 shoots 5760x4320 in what's called "5.8K" mode, which is an accurate name when looking at the source width (5760 = 5.8K). The GH5II shoots 4992x3744 in "6K-A" mode. I don't recall now if the "6K" is a diagonal measurement (probably, since the diagonal is 6240) or if it's a measurement of what it'll be once it's stretched (even a 1.33x anamorphic stretch will result in over 6,600 pixels wide), so that name is more a marketing term. Since the mode is no longer meant to be used only for anamorphic, the name changed to reflect a more realistic use (and what we're used to seeing… "4K" = 4096 wide, not diagonal) pulse.ly/usz7chbns3
This video is an excellent demonstration of a seriously underrated feature. Honestly Panasonic should be shouting this from the rooftops - especially since shooting dual aspect is such a big deal now. You could shoot an entire feature like a documentary and distribute it as dual aspect.
Truth! This video is their version of shouting it from the rooftops ;-)
I don't agree I think the fact that it's only available at 30p makes it a real weak point... Make it 100p (no crop, but lower resolution) and you'll have a winner.
Agree 100%
@@photojoseph heard loud and clear. Thank you
Glad you made this video dude, this is such an underrated feature! My GH6 is my go to camera when I know I need deliverables for social posts too.
Thanks man. It is a killer feature for sure!
True, I hope that this becomes a standard feature in all cameras
Your videos are always amazing, thanks so much for sharing with us. This video make me feel proud of getting the GH6, your videos always shows the full potential.
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
You're the man! I was so confused with the cropping of open gate footage. Thank you
Wow!!! I’m so blown away!
This was so worth the wait, the intro was amazing and I absolutely need to watch this again!
Wow thank you, I really appreciate that!!
Now, I’m a stills shooter who doesn’t really use video… but I’m blown away by the frame guide options. I want that so much on every camera. Common and custom aspect ratios, with a brightline or black bar options. Fantastic.
It’s definitely helpful in so many situations!
One of my favorite videos. Love it. Thank you!
Thank you Joseph for this really, really well executed tutorial, I believe you invested many hours in producing this video and it turned out awesome. And yes, I haven't taught about this option to film like that, we have few GH5 and I will try it out.
thank you, I appreciate that!
Incredible intro Joseph! By far the most convincing argument for open gate I’ve seen for the GH6.
I hope you’re well! Loved this video.
Hey Chadwick, thank you for watching and for the complement! This was really fun to put together, for sure.
really informative stuff good sir. Thank you
The gh4 was so far ahead of the game people are STILL surprised by how many amazing features it has.
This is a really well presented video. Great job.
You are such a great narrator. Thank you for the work you do creating this content you have just earned a subscriber!
I very much appreciate that! Welcome to the channel 😊
I'm just now seeing this. Fantastic video. You obviously put a lot of time into this one and it shows. Thank you.
Just finished the video. That smart reframe is amazing. I still prefer horizontal video but between resolve and the open gate sensor that would take a lot of the pain points out of shooting for different aspect ratios. Do you ever find yourself having a tendency to shoot tighter than you need to just out of habit? You probably have better instincts for shooting/cropping with your photography background.
Hey buddy! Thanks for watching! The open gate and smart reframe certainly does make things easier. You still want to shoot with the final aspect ratios in mind for sure. As to your question; I do my final framing in camera. It’s really rare that I tighten up a shot in post, and even more rare that I wish I’d shot wider. But yeah, I’ve been looking through a lens for 40 years, so that probably has something to do with it!
This feature was actually available (on accident) in the GH4 in one of the later firmware updates. people liked it so much they kept it in the GH5 and GH6
What firmware for the gh4?
Version 2.7 on GH4. Bottom of page 6/7 on the camera settings.
So glad I meet you at CineGear, and learned about this!! 🙌🏾
Awesome man, great meeting you too - thanks for stopping by!!
Excellent Breakdown🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you Joseph, helps a lot!
Glad to hear it!
Same for the Panasonic LX100 I used to have. Had a dedicated switch on the lens to switch between aspect ratio's on the fly. This also supported 4:3 and worked great! The greatest feature is Aspect Bracketing where you can take a single picture and it takes 4 different pictures with all 4 aspect ratios in the camera (3:2, 16:9, 4:3, 1:1).
That's just clean! Got the gh6 in April (super dope camera). Never considered the reason to shoot open gate. This is a game changer brother!
Awesome, thanks! Yeah it’s definitely a cool feature
Amazing video and great job! 👏
Thank you!
This is a fantastic video. Really well built and informative. Good Job man c:
Thank you!
The GH5, the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks for the download!
Very useful! Thank you.
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This is genius. Just last week I was struggling with a project that needed a 9x16 version as well and I found so much being cropped out. Gonna have to try shooting 4:3 on my GH5!
Awesome!!
Dude, this is the reason I bought TWO G9s. Their "6K mode" is open gate 4992x3744 (same as GH5). It's fixed at 30fps 4:2:0 10bit 150Mbps HEVC. You have to configure the "6K photo mode" to start-stop record to make it work as a video mode (don't have the dial turned to video mode or it will do regular 16:9). There is a 10minute limit to record time. You get audio as well. Not bad for a camera with a street value of less than $1K. The G9 seems to be the 13th floor of hybrid cameras - how did this not get a mention? Thats why i still call it the most underrated budget semi-pro camera there is even though it's getting a bit long in the tooth now. Not bad for a 2018 stills camera. The only thing I personally feel lacking is a higher bitrate and built in log which feels expensive to me as I have to buy it as an addon even though it's not the full thing. I wish Panasonic would just give it away. Maybe you could have a word to them since G9 is probably EoL soon.
You're not wrong - I chose to include just the dedicated Anamorphic modes that don't have any of the 6K Photo limitations, but you absolutely can get the most of it from that mode. Yeah the G9 is a great price point for doing this!
great detailed review.. BEST!
Thanks!!
Very helpful! Thank you
love this video master joseph. it shows your skills. 👌🏼
Thank you kindly
4 by 3 is what the old TV system was. Mobile phones can be rotated 90' resulting in a much nicer longer width and lower height frame. 16 by 9 corresponds to the Golden Ratio. 3 by 2 is a commonly used ratio.
New folding phones are all very close to 4:3 too and the ipads are also. right now there are tens of millions of new near 4:3 aspect ratio screens perfect for viewing 4:3 content
This will really help my work when I have to crop for vertical! Thank you!
Great to hear!
Thanks a lot for these super useful info!
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Good explanation. Thanks. I hadn’t thought about it that way but makes perfect sense.
Right on! Opening gates, opening eyes 😂
This was awesome and I learned something new...Thank you Joseph.
That’s what I love to hear!
Love this feature on my S5II. The 6K video coming off the full sensor looks incredible.
Yeah! Agreed!
This is oddly satisfying to watch and I don’t own a LUMIX camera. Great feature, content and editing! Your camera and lens selection is amazing. Also, thank you for reminding me to register for re-certification as a Davinci Resolve Trainer - with the 18 release and all.
Hey Rocky! Thanks for watching. And you should try a LUMIX! ☺️
Lots of good information, going to try out the smart reframe 😁.
Have fun!
Great Video!! The auto reframe is really a great feature for open gate. Shoot in static and make a dynamic smooth camera move in post.
Yep!
Wow thats so cool!
how are you not famous yet? this channel is stunning
Aw man I really appreciate that. Thank you.
Great point! I like it
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This is one of the greatest features of the GH6 👍 Thanks for that informative video…
Thanks! I’ve got a brand new video expanding on this topic dropping in the next 24 hours… make sure you’re subbed!
@@photojoseph great, looking forward to it 👍
This actually makes so much sense. I've always wanted my Sony cameras to record videos with the full 3:2 sensor size.
Time to upgrade to LUMIX!
You got me again, this really opened my eyes to consider renting a GH6. Thanks a million
Awesome!!
Whoa, that smart reframe is out of this world, so cool!
So SO cool!!
you are always a good tutor
😊 thank you
Thank you for sharing your GH6 Open Gate workflow. It is incredibly informative. Your straight forward presentation is paced well and easy to follow. I plan to use open gate acquisition quite extensively because of the flexibility it allows me in making HD deliverables while maintaining a master that can be repurposed and future proofed to create up to a 5K deliverable to streaming services. Like you I also enjoy shooting with my set of Meike Cine style prime lenses and my set of Surui anamorphic primes. The flexibility the GH6 gives content creators of intellectual properties for meeting the demands of a worldwide dynamic changing marketplace is unmatched at it’s price point.
thank you! Sounds like you definitely “get it”. It’s a powerful way to shoot for flexible delivery, for sure!
awesome video
Thank you!
Yea, I want to see that workflow 👍
Nice!
Extremely helpful video. Just added a LUMIX S5ii to our Sony bodies. Can you do something showing workflow with both 3:2 and 16:9 files?
thanks! awesome video. the S5 can shoot crop sensor open gate at 4k internally. I think it can do 5.9k externally.
Well done video. I'm a still guy. I also avoid Instagram like the plague, but I get that it is what the customer wants. I was going to pass on this video, but I fell in. I appreciate seeing a whole new perspective on things, and yes, over my head, but I'll be back. Thanks for your efforts.
Suddenly got excited again over my old Panasonic LX100. A camera from 2014 with a 4/3 sensor that shoots 4K that would let you select sensor crops on the ring. 3:2, 16:9, 1:1 and 4:3. But can only force a reframed 16:9 video out of it.
What you really need is a custom aspect ration grid you can apply to the reference monitor/viewfinder at all your aspect ratios. That's the killer feature to make best use of this crop. Been using it on full TV shoots for a few years and never looked back.
Well, thanks. I have s5 so i shoot at 3:2 6k photo mode that shoots at a resolution that is 5k x 3k ish. I adjust shutter speed to 100 or less to get a video blurr.
But i render in the same aspect ratio as i am bored of 16x9 , plus the fact thst i have to loose so much area.
It works for me.
really great channel, beautiful video,.... which other camera have open gate,. or 4:3 aspect recording options ???
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Hey there thanks for this video it is really insightful, appreciate it! I have a question as a GH5m2 owner. If I shoot open gate in 4k and crop in post am I losing quality as opposed to just shooting in 4k with the regular 16:9 aspect ratio? Does Panasonic do any enhancing when cropping in 16:9 that is missed when going open gate? Or am I just doing in post what the GH5m2 does for me when selecting a 16:9 aspect ratio. Thanks!
A GREAT VIDEO, JOSEPH!!! THANKS FOR EXPLAIN HOW OPEN GATE RUN... BEST REGARDS FROM SPAIN. NANO.
Glad it was helpful!
I use it in my gx85 to simulate Vista Vision and it's great. The timelapse mode on this camera shoots open gate but it's not label as anything anamorphic it just allows the use of the full sensor.
In the GX85, wow. So you're just shooting time lapse? But not full framerate… or am I missing something?
@@photojoseph yeah you can see some of the clips I used here th-cam.com/video/Rvc2cGi-2fs/w-d-xo.html
I don't have the dosh for the set of meke, love to of course. it'd be cool if you could lemme know which you used the most and why you chose the one's you did. a good single recommendation to start with would be cool too. cheers and thanks.
Mama Mia. I like it. I’ll be starting a new job soon and will have to shoot this method see how it treats me. Love the fact you’re utilizing Davinci. Adobe realllly needs to feel the pressure.
Haha awesome. I hope it works for you!
Thank, really love this feature on my GH5. Would just love to have more fps on the GH6, also can it do extended dynamic range while in this mode? Lastly would love to have a 4:3 sensor on the S1H mark Ii
Wish this was possible on the Lumix S series cameras! I’d love to shoot open gate on my S5.
Edit: it’s possible with APS-C mode but not in full-frame
Excellent video. Is this available on the G9?
Terima kasih untuk info nya🙌
My pleasure
Très bon tuto, merci.......!!!!!!
de rien!
Thanks
Hey! I hope that MKE 600 is working out for you. : ) A lot of what's going on with the GH6 makes me want to go back to M43. I have the S5 and it's lovely, and I can use my vintage lenses with it, but that GH6 looks so nice and I miss the better viewfinder I had with the GH5. ~Ryan
Could one distribute a project shot in open gate to a film festival, or is it best to use Cinema 4K 4 2 2 10bit? I love the editing options. Having different crops might add to the storytelling.
Although I still don't understand what this does on my gh5, but all I want is good low light performance. U seem like u know alot with all those lenses and cameras so could u tell me like the best low light lens?
If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t the G9 shoot open gate in 6k photo mode? You can choose 4:3 or 3:4, but it’s at 5.1k higher than the GH5.
Am I missing something here?
Great video BTW☺️
Let's all suggest this at FiLMiC Pro to be added in a future release. The iPhone sensor also has an aspect ratio of 4:3 so this would give us 4032 x 3024 pixels to work with. MAVIS App already has it.
Hi! I got the S5 en Ninja V .. I can do that? or just filming 6k raw? Thanks
Amazing feature and a very informative and excellently made video (my only regret is that I didn't see your video sooner). I have both GH6 and GH5II. I see you use a Desview R6 monitor, but you only touched that briefly. I can't find from their products if any of their models will show the 4:3 aspect ratio, or just the 16:9 crop. I'm looking for a monitor that will show the full frame of the open gate 4:3. Any thoughts/brands/experiences?
Any monitor should work. The camera is outputting video to match the capabilities of the monitor (HD or UHD) and will pillarbox the output so you’re getting a 4:3 image.
@@photojoseph Thanks. This was most helpful as this open a world of possibilities. Learning new things for my Panasonics everyday. Just got a Tilta Float arm, and your other SmallRig review was also very helpful. Monitor next. Thanks one more.
@@ArnfinnNilsen awesome! You’re gonna love my next video 😉
Do you know any external monitors , that fit the size of the open gate?
Certain apps allow you to shoot in open gate on the iPhone. Quality is amazing compared to the normal mode in low light though no stabilization(can't handhold it) and limited to 30fps
Oh wow, that makes perfect sense. Cool!
I think the iPhone, even when using filmic pro, can only shot at around 50 to 70 Mbps. I’ve seen the claims of 150 Mbps being reached but have never been able to get near that.
That probably depends on the phone. I only have the 12, but the 13 can do ProRes so maybe on that one you get the higher bitrate?
This is a such epic feature! I should tell my grandma immdiately, and she doesnt bother to rotate her camera anymore😊
I have four cameras that are capable of shooting open gate 5.7K; however, I don’t use them to shoot 9:16. I shoot live theatre, concerts, and dance shows with multiple cameras. Only one of these cameras has a live operator. The open gate lets me reframe the shot in post or turn one shot into two by having a different crop.
Awesome. Open Gate is so flexible!
Awesome stuff here, Joseph!
It makes me sad knowing that Sony will most likely never update their cameras to include Open Gate. If they ever provide the option, they will most likely introduce it in newer models and will forget about their older ones.
I am curious what you think of Fuji xh2s open gate in 6k apsc sensor. That’s 3:2 and not the 4:3 on lumix. Is that a fair compromise for social media. Thanks.
Like I discussed in here, 3:2 is better than 16:9 but the 4:3 aspect ratio (closer to square) is better. More vertical overlap. In a perfect world the sensor would be 1:1 square, like a Hasselblad!
Could you possibly do a quick video of Proxy Files. Could you show the workflow from beginning to end, I'm new to that aspect, thank you, great stuff.
I actually am planning a workflow video on this, centered around the Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini, but that won’t be until September at the earliest.
Perhaps an additional update? The OG S5 (yes not the S5 II/IIX) has "open gate" video recording at 30P as well, but is hidden in the menu. Change camera mode to "M", change selected burst mode (I use II) to use 6K Photo, change mode to S/S (shutter start/stop). Limited to 15 minutes per recording, but you can select 3:2 (5183x3456) and 4:3 (4992x3744) aspect ratios and even set Photo Style to V-Log. Includes audio! My understanding is that is also 200Mbps bit rate recording. I've used it successfully for far better Anamorphic than the official "Anamorphic 4:3" mode on the OG S5. If you could, suggest that now the S5 II/IIX have received firmware upgrades that Panasonic move that 6K mode to the video menu on the OG S5 as a friendly gesture.
Good stuff. Does open gate, or any of the non-16:9 ratios support VFR or just standard framerates? I shot something the other day on my GH5 and wanted to do 4:3, but went 16:9 so I could use VFR, but was also disappointed VFR didn't have 18fps as an option.
no, just 23.98 and 29.97 (actually if you switch to PAL, then you get 25 and Cine you get 24… dang I should have included those in my chart!).
@@photojoseph thanks for great work, always very useful.
And what about the 4,4K 4352x3264 which is 4:3 ratio and has 50p? Wouldn’t that be an option to do open gate while keeping some room for slow motion ?
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Sounds like a delicious way to grow up!
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Awesome, and welcome!
Kind of funny how 4:3 is a “feature” these days but 16:9 was a “feature” 20 years ago.
Haha totally. Slightly higher resolution now though 😉
Would you mind explaining the pros and cons of proxy vs optimized media?
Sure thing. Proxy is smaller (usually half size, so quarter the likes), and compressed. It’s meant to be small, easy to share via cloud, easy to fit on a laptop. Usually H264 or H265/HEVC Optimized is the opposite. Typically rendering to ProRes, full resolution. These files are much bigger than the source, BUT are easy for your computer to handle. Computers can work lay back ProRes more easily than bug H264 files that come off most cameras.
so quick question, on the S5, which has that anamorphic mode, is that not the same thing? I don't think that's technically "open gate" but it is a 4:3 aspect ratio, but i don't know if it maps to what the GH6/S1H is doing.
Same idea, but note that the resolution is lower. It's a 4:3 ratio, but it's only 3328x2496. It's called 4K-A because once it's stretched out for anamorphic delivery, it'll be wider than 4K. Depending on your stretch, if it's 1.33x that's 1.33x3328 = 4426. And if you use a 2x squeeze anamorphic, that's 6656 wide. But if you're not stretching (i.e. using it as this video is suggesting), then you only have 3.3k width at 3328, so under the 3840 of UHD. That's why the only cameras and modes I am showing as "open gate" for the purpose of dual format delivery are the ones that shoot over 4K natively.
@@photojoseph ahhh ok, understand. thank you for that!
I hope they can update at least 48p for the full sensor open gate.I think they can do it. It is just if Panasonic want to or not.
Thank you for this demo, but I use FCPX and I cannot follow along. When creating a 4k timeline , mismatched resolutions on Da Vinci does not show up under FCP. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you
I haven’t used FCP in a while but I am quite sure you can make a custom timeline at any size. If you’re talking about the vertical resolution then there should be presets for that.
You could also just shoot a bit wider on every other cam, and then choose your frame
GoPro does something similar too. Super useful.
Oh yeah, I forgot that!
The iPhone has an secret open gate mode and it is my favourite way to shoot on it so good for shooting landscape and still posting to vertical social
I’ve heard about this… what’s the secret? Another app?
Hi 😊 Thank you for this amazing video. Question: Do open gate files take up more data than 16:9 and if so do you have an estimated percentage of how much larger they might be? Open gate for non-anamorphic lens projects seems like a good option to allow for reframing up and down in post while maintaining 16:9. This could be especially valuable for gimbal shots if the camera unintentionally drifts too high or low for a take and a reframing adjustment is needed in post. Thank you sir. 👍
File size is determined by data rate, not pixel dimensions. 200mbit is 200mbit regardless if it’s 1080p, 4K or 6K. You can convert mbit per second (megabit per second) also written as mbps into megaBYTE per second, then x60 to get a per-minute estimate. Don’t forget to include audio but that’s minimal compared to video.
@@photojoseph Thank you for the reply. 😊 I didn’t know if 16:9 saved data by not recording the tops and bottoms of the sensor as opposed to open gate, but you have a good point in using the bit rate to look at file sizes. A person can look at the bit rate for each record setting (if they own a GH6) and make a storage decision from that perspective. For those of us who are considering a GH6 but don’t have one in our hands I suppose I was looking at it more from that perspective. Perhaps I can check the owners manual for the bit rates of 16:9 at 4K 4:2:2 10 bit and compare that bit rate to open gate at the same or closest similar resolution and calculate a percentage in file size difference from there. With a percentage difference in file size I can calculate a storage cost for shooting and storing open gate footage as opposed to 16:9 capture to assess if any difference in cost is a value proposition for my purposes. With the cost of high speed media for the GH6 it would be nice to be able to estimate the cost of data storage ownership before going down the GH6 path or going down the open gate path as opposed to 16:9. I don’t shoot for social media, only my own narrative work so open gate would just be a framing bonus (or safety) for me. Thank you for your insightful video and for your bitrate suggestion as a metric for choosing open gate or 16:9. All the best to you sir. 👍😊
@@cobymarcum1442 downloading the manual is definitely the way to go. All the info is there.
Total beginner here (with a GH5ii). If I were to oversimplify, would I be right saying that shooting anamorphic mode / open gate = being able to output both horizontal and vertical videos of the original footage? (you used 16:9 but would it work in say, 2.35?)
Sure. It’s just a 4:3 aspect ration with a ton of pixels to crop any way your heart desires!
16:50 That's so so cool!
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Dang they’re making the S5 look like a paper weight. @Panasonic can we get some updates?
Does your nucleus nano motor make a rumbling noise with your Meike lenses? Mine does and I find it concerning. I have the same lens set.
If it’s not really tight, yes. I find you really need to ensure it’s pressed hard into the lens, and mounted really tightly on the cage/rod.
great video Joseph! I have the GH5S, will the Ninja V accept this open gate feature?
GH5S has open gate but it’s not as high resolution. You’re looking for the anamorphic settings. They are separate from video quality settings on that generation OS.
@@photojoseph ok.... so I cant use the ninja v to record the open gate video from the GH5S?
I don’t know offhand what resolutions the GH5S outputs over HDMI. I’m going to assume that you can output open gate but you need to try it or look up the specs.
@@photojoseph thanks :)