S3 E44. The diesel powered Honda Insight is finished. electrical system done.
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- Season 3 Episode 44. Jimbo finishes the electrical system on the Honda insight and now the car is road worthy. Jimbo also explains how to connect a Denso 40 amp alternator into any automotive electrical system.
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Jimbo out here killing it on the Tube, every Sunday.
So much fun.
I'm glad I went back to watching episodes regularly right when they're fresh out of the oven!
Most TH-cam channels are making cars with 1000+ horsepower. This one is like let's put a cement mixer engine in a car and find a way to make it driveable. I think that's why I like it.
You are such a good chap for ALWAYS including metric conversions. Some channels just don't give a damn about this.
A fresh cup of coffee and a nice Robot Cantina video starts the day off right!
Facts
As a cyborg wannebe, I'll be having a hot cup of Marvel Mystery Oil.
Seeing the panel outside the car and obviously unhooked while hearing everything work made my day. 🤣
Pro tip: when drilling/cutting fiberglass/carbonfiber, tape the area with painters tape to reduce tearing.
When you fire up your Honda insight and hear the diesel engine start, that’s awesome! I love this little car!
OMG THAT EXHAUST SOUND WHEN YOU FLEW BY....!!!!!!!!
That sound was from the single cylinder 420cc supercharged fuel injected intercooled harbor freight engine. Not to shabby....
Can't wait for the hypermiler test on this one. It's going to generate some crazy numbers.
I really hope so. Especially since a small diesel is my backup plan in case the engine on my first-gen Insight ever dies. :D
Yes I'm looking for 80+ MPG
People think the post apocalypse will be like mad max with loud aggressive hot rods but I think it will be more like robot cantina. Cheap fuel efficient.
So glad that the hood is back on. It would be interesting if it can be done to turn the charge indicator gauge into a boost gauge on the dash, but it probably ran on the can bus. Have a good week and enjoy your trip to the tag office.
The ardrino can replicate can bus signals too. At least certain versions could.
It has somewhat lost steam since they went after the diesel modders for emissions compliance bullcrap but look into something called a cardrino. I think there was another version of the same project cslled s speeduino. They were completely replacing old broken engine computers that were unattainable along with adding functionality and fuel injection tunes and stuff to older obsolete cars by using an ardrino. There are even hats/shields created to connect the stock ecm wiring for some cars to the io pins and add on bosrds on the ardrino. Ardrino sells a can shield.
I started just looking into it just before when the EPA went after the diesel people. Sites started dropping out of existence all over the place but there are still some around.
One of the fun goals was to take stuff from newer cars and install it into older vehicles. Sometimes that required creating a can bus signal or altering one to suit the different technologies involved. One guy put an infotainment center from a 2019 expedition into a mid 2000s chevy pickup truck with a ram cumuns diesel. Fun stuff but he disappeared too. I wanted multi port furl injection on a chevy crate motor dropped into a 80s model chevet scooter. I ended up trashing the idea after a hilarious tractor incident ensued effectively totaling it out.
@@sumduma55 There's also ESP32 which can be programmed with the Arduino IDE and I believe can interact with the CAN bus.
@@cobra02411 I almost forgot about those. They were more of a curiosity for some in the communities I was looking at though. But that was several years ago. Thanks for the reminder.
@sumduma55 Chevettes,now there's something one rarely if ever sees any more !! Pintos,sure,Granadas yep,Vegas at the drag strips,Bobcats,Camaros,Stanks,Monzas,Opels yep yep yep yep n yep,them 4 door Vettes,nahh 😂
@@sumduma55 I like that they have built in Wifi and Bluetooth. The have pro's and con's vs arduino. I've replaced a few sensors around the house with ESP32 for simple packaging. Also, there's a lot of support for ESP Home.
Time to live vicariously through Robot Cantina. Might not be the most important project, but it is the best project because of fun factor. Good job Jimbo, you are a treasure.
What does "most important project" mean?
@@Hawk7886Here we go. One in every crowd...
My reaction seeing jimbo’s
notification 📣 “YES😎”
Let's be honest. Project cars are never really finished😅
💯
Yeah
Its the song that never ends
Let's be honest, our projects end when we sell it, scrap it, or die.
Robot Cantina finishes a project by tearing it apart to start a new one haha
Excited for the factory cluster
Love that you can use the factory gauges
Hi Robot Cantina! Thanks for making my sunday better!
You could use the light in the "dash" for oilpressure/charging light.. or glowplug indicator light
I would use it as an idiot light for the alternator.
Real cliff-hanger Jimbo.
I like to see the simple and cheap approach. And look forward to the acceleration and MPG numbers
Good seeing it almost ready for the road 👍
This robot man with a cantina is a genius. I have always wanted to do this kind of stuff. But you go the extra mile and make it like factory.
Man I love this little car so much. I can't wait for the video on the instrument cluster!
Great work again, this is a brilliant channel. Much appreciate your ingenuity
Can't wait to see what kind of mpg numbers you get with this car. Should beat the Saturn but by how much is the question. Those Saturns are pretty slippery and even though they're not as light as the Insight, they're still pretty light, so we'll see.
I wish these gen 1 insights were cheap and plentiful...To make a commuter car that isn't super slow but still gets great mpgs & is cheap & simple to fix.
@@michaelbrinks8089 I'd really like Honda to just re-make the first-gen Insight, perhaps with slightly modernized tech. I've never bought a new car, but if they did that I might well buy that new.
@@IstasPumaNevada What I hate is, the automotive industry could easily build a hydrid that got 100 mpgs. Yet they refuse to do so for some reason. The gen 1 insight was slow but got 70mpgs using 23yr tech & non lithium batteries...The VW XL-1 diesel hybrid gets over 200mpgs on a full charge. It's super lightweight, carbon fiber & low powered but proves it can be done. If a gen 1 insight had a lithium battery that was recharged from a wall 🔌 plug-in. It could be made to easily get 70mpgs without being super slow. The 1st prius's were originally designed to get 100mpgs. But then for some strange reason purposely made them only get 50mpgs.
When the time is right and this beauty is finished up i sure hope you will consider to auctioning the car. Start at a price that is right for you and let us have at it.
Thank you for the hard work you do to make our sundays.
We did our best to keep the cost low on this project however parts alone exceed $10K.. I'm not sure this car is worth that much.
The arrows drawn on top look much better than a finger wagging around. Thank you for going thru the effort to illustrate that.
Show of hands for those waiting to hear the "Supercharged 420cc Big Blooooock" jingle one more time. 🤚
nothing like morning coffee with Jimbo. always a good day with a new Robot Cantina.
The humour always brings a smile
Excellent build. The MPG is going to be insane.
We need a gnome christmas special! 🙌🏼
There's something just so sweet about you rolling coal in a first generation Insight =)
Great job Jimbo! Keep them coming.
This is a great project, thanks for sharing 👍..
thank you!
Coming from racing, I highly recommend putting a switch to the alternator for when doing performance runs👍
I used one of those alternators on my MF165, it works fine.
“Simple and cheap” - reminds me of the old military, saying, “keep it simple, stupid!” (K.I.S.S.)
The sound effects on the disconnected panel cracked me up
Indicator lamps with a connection to the brush pack allows a circuit test when it comes on pre crank
That alternator is adorable! 💜
LOL, I have never heard anybody ever say that about an alternator, but I have to admit it is cute.
@@robotcantina8957 Right?! 😅
So excited to see the performance and fuel economy numbers on this vehicle. I bet the fuel economy is going to rival the hybrid. The acceleration probably won't but at least it is gonna be faster than a garage truck.
The super or turbo should make it normal car quick.
@Eluderatnight on the Saturn it made it Volkswagen beetle quick so we will just have to see and I'm perfectly OK with that . Robot canteena is one of my favorite yt channels.
Ya know, you could automate the glow plugs by getting a time-off time delay relay and tying it in with your main power switch. Could also use it to power a "wait to start" light.. Not really necessary, I'll grant you, but a nice creature comfort. And they don't cost all that much. IE an Accele BU-509TD relay. Same pinouts as a regular relay with a little screw to adjust the time-off delay.
Interesting, That timed relay would certainly make this little Honda more like a Cadillac. I'll give is a shot. Thanks
Jumbo keeps teasing another week
Oh yes, progress and amusement. Jimbo is the best!
Looks great! Excited to see the Insight back on the road in the next video!
I really should go work on my project today. 5.3 swapping a S10. Currently working on getting the driveshaft to fit.
I hope you daily the little Insight Jimbo.
Maybe you can put some yellow kapton tape over the blue Engine Start button. This way you can have green for start engine and red for stop engine
You and your channel are a gem thanks for everything you do
Opossums are marsupials and thanks for the grate videos.
I think most marcupials have s pouch. They are born premature and are then externally connected to the mother. I don't think deer fit that description! LOL, you made me laugh out loud!
Thank you Jimbo! You make Sunday great!!
Jimbo, You should do a collaboration with another TH-cam channel that has a wheel dyno. It would be fun to see what it makes after the supercharger. Perhaps turning up the fuel pump while your at it too 😊😊😊
It is still tuned for forced induction as mentioned in the last video
Yup. Fuel economy and speed and acceleration. Also it will be cool to see the gauges working!
I like that your explanations of how a devices and mechanical concepts function are typically spot on. When they are questionable your usually the first one to say your not really sure. Some much larger automotive content creators with entire writing teams and dedicated editing staff that people respect make so many errors when talking about even basic fundimantal concepts that it has gotten so hard to watch them lately. I have so much respect for what you do and love your content.
Real gangsta-ass Jimbo ain't gotta flex nuts, cause real gangsta-ass Jimbo knows he got 'em.
Sunday mornings are the best. Coffee 60° outside and diesel Honda insight robot cantina goodness.
They sure are lenient over there with regards to what needs to work, over here in Blighty, you need the windscreen washers to work as well as the wipers, plus a whole list of other stuff too that makes the british MOT test look like a properly overkill checkup... :P
I love how your channel is ZERO HYPE, and all results. ...But, for the record, I would LOVE to see a Honda CBR1000 engine in it, and set up like a fantasy rally car......
Thanks again. I loved the little digs and tidbits you included, you know the ones.😎
Tease tease tease. I want mooooooore!
Great video Jimbo! Always enjoy getting my Sunday morning Robot cantina notification 😊
Very nice indeed!
The highlight of my weekend!
Your projects have me dreaming of doing an EV conversion. I would love to see one on here in the future. Maybe the Honda goes from hybrid, to diesel, to EV?! Talk about a full circle
With Jimbos' level of quality,fit,and finish, I expected him to delete the ART from the red start button and replace them with OP, making it look factory legit.. It's his fault for making us expect him to excel and go 1 step above... 😁
Nice job! Just a thought, maybe try a cogged belt system for your accessory drive to reduce friction and free up a small amount of horsepower. It may be a lot of work for little gain, but its something i thought about. Looking forward to more videos!
Great work, this is my favorite build yet! Did you consider possibly powering the electrical system externally to reduce the load on the engine? The load of the alternator is actually very significant, especially on something with so little power and seems easy enough to eliminate. Not sure how much you drive these cars, but since you don't drive them at night or in bad weather, as little power as that setup will use, you could probably get away with just using a decent battery and charging it when you get back. Or for a more automatic solution, a flexible solar panel on the roof with a charge controller would be a great charger and maintainer. Not using the alternator should gain you several MPG and a measurable performance improvement. You could also easily wire the alternator's ignition terminal to a switch inside the car to turn it off when going for maximum performance and efficiency. Just a thought, keep up the great work!
The Alternator can be Switched out by cutting the Field supply.
@@cerealtiller It sure can as I said in the last part of my comment. When the alternator isn't under a load, the only power it uses at a constant RPM will be from the friction of the belt, the brushes and bearings, and the cooling fan.
Adding a small solar panel to reduce the load is an interesting idea (although it breaks the "cheap" ethos), but I don't get why you'd ever want to manually shut off the charging circuit. The likely miniscule increase in economy isn't worth the risk of potentially forgetting to turn it back on, and it kind of goes against the "simple" idea.
@@averyalexander2303 the alternator could be Switched out when doing acceleration Tests....
every second counts with such a small Engine.
am aware that the Alternator Load reduces as Battery Voltage rises.
"Cheap and Simple"
I think starting with the stupercharger is a good plan but we all know that a supercharger will help spool that turbo appropriately. So it really needs booth. I would love to see that and seems appropriate.
Jimbo your knowledge of biology is astounding, "deer are marsupials, right?" got me into rotfl mode. Cheers from Australia and have a great christmas :)
Do you have the airbags hooked up? Nice videos, keep it up!
air bags are long gone.
I would love to see the hybrid system working again, like a diesel hybrid.
The original hybrid system would require that we use the original 5 speed transmission. Since we are using a Saturn transmission, there is no way to get the hybrid stuff to work.
That glow plug buzzer freaks out my dog. Weird.
Nice work, it's looking good! That oval hole in the firewall was probably for heater hoses although it could have been for A/C hoses too.
I always learn something. Came here for quality automotive content. Learned about the local wildlife... "Deer are marsupials, right" 😂.
Deer are not Marsupials !
Signed
Joey
Mailing address
Pouch , NSW Australia
@@josephpadula2283 thanks for the info😂
Testing the electrical panel before it was installed had me scratching my head. For a moment anyway. Bahahaha!
Good update! On my EV converted insight, I needed to provide a signal to the tachometer wire in order for the ABS to work, and its warning light to go out.
I always use a relay even if the switch can handle the expected load just because changing a relay is usually less annoying than changing a switch
Good point! We ended up using a relay on everything except the windshield wipers.
Good ole Kansas no inspections. Safety inspection in Mo have been degraded and i can tell you its BAD IDEA. As an ex state inspector PEOPLE DONT FIX THEIR CARS the dangerous insane stuff i saw on ppls cars who do 80mph on hwy would blow your mind. 4 example chrysler sebring came in with sluggish steering from Ks. I put it on lift and TIE ROD END SEPERATED. Seriously she had just been doing over 70mph otw there. GET CARS SAFETY INSPECTED
Now imagine that same problem of not having inspections but in the rust belt
States without safety inspections have no more accidents than ones with. Google it. When the garages do the inspections, it becomes questionable.
Missouri in general has been degraded. Inspections are the least of their problems.
@@firstlast---it is The rust belt Mo and kansas LOTS of salt
Im a completely different type of car guy yet I am excited every time you post a video! I always get to learn something as well. The arduino to adapt to the gauges sounds interesting! If I can learn how to do that I can apply that to my project.
Thanks ! The Arduino interface to the Honda cluster should be interesting and we will be making a video of that when the time comes.
If you're budget will allow you might consider a big brother to the v twin they do a 999cc with a lot more umph from standard.i believe there is a few tune up products available for them ( not sure how much more they weigh) but it would make traveling further a bit more relaxing with a bit more torque on tap. Brilliant work as always 👍
Hey, hey! That thing could get into 70hp territory. This guy has a wife and kids to think about.. 😅. Lol cheers
some day maybe i will build something like this to drive around town.
Love the progress
420cc BIG BLOCK!
Hey Jimbo, lot's of work involved to hit the test track! Good job !
Great project very cool 👍
Id love to be the KHP officer that conducts the inspection on Jimbo’s rigs.
LOL, they dont care
@@robotcantina8957
Officer: What's on the menu today, Jimbo?
Jimbo: *rolls up in a steam powered AMC gremlin*
It's always great joy to see these creations taking shape and looking better every day. The fastest slow car is an interesting concept and I can't wait for the supercharger tests! My only negative opinion is about the switch guard, I think you should toss it. The way they're used in those "rice car only" panels is, honestly, cringey. They're intended to protect against inadvertent use of systems you positively, absolutely, totally cannot activate without serious consequences, like discharging the fire extinguisher system (there are switch guards that prevent undue action either way but those are rare in the civilian market.) They are also rather precarious in systems that do need to stay on during normal operations, like engine ignition or diesel cutoff solenoid as almost any contact with the guard will cut off the circuit. While an argument could be made it's good for switching off the ignition quickly in an accident, an impact and roll-over sensitive cutoff switch would do the job better; chances are you are either preoccupied or just plain out cold immediately before, during, and after the event. Ironically, the "for racing use only" panel would make much more sense if the pushbutton was a latching switch for power and the guarded (momentary) switch ran the starter.
Should have an on/off switch for the alternator. Or a relay to turn it off at wot
With some hype miles/ing should get over 100..? Look like you are building this for practical use. Nice
Your videos are going to make my cars last forever. Just keep swapping haha.
Lets not forget that diesel prolly puts out quite a bit more torque per hp than the 670cc gasoline engine.
Not to mention more cylinders generally result in better low end torque due to more overlapping power cycles, the supercharger will likely increase that even further.
You can wire the Alternator in a way taht it’s not stealing power while Accelerating and lots of current when braking.
Euro6 cars do this.
It's always nice when the magic spaghetti is sorted.
A cable ( ie a choke cable ) to pull on the level would work!
Assume you're kidding about deer but possums are America's only marsupials.
I thought marsupials (pungdyr "purse animals" in Danish) only lived in Australia. You learn a lot of useful stuff in the comment section.
We have only one. @@erik_dk842
I want one! What a neat little economy car you are creating.
This Insight is so cool. You know Honda would never do something this cool. They can't. But Robot Cantina can. So there you go. I think I like this better than the Renault to be honest.
You're a genius!
MORE! Great video, thanks!
Very curious to see the final mileage. Honestly love this idea. Mechanical diesel engines are the peak as far as reliability and simplicity but theyre inpoasible to find in a small package for automotive applications. Its either a tiny generator 1 cyl or a 1000+lb industrial/full-size truck engine
Its common for those self contained mobile construction light set-ups to come up for sale. They have small diesel engines. Same with the mobile billboard signs. They are pretty cheap and I keep thinking of all the cool things that could be done with a small diesel like that. Cheers
That was the European recipe for ages, small cars with small diesel engines, not anymore though. Those small cars could get some incredible fuel consumption figures, even with really low tech engines.