The hand is completely solver approved on Addamo's end. Zhang's play is also solver approved until the end. It mostly calls with that specific AK combo.
@@GummingPlobe It it doesn't block most of the flop c/r bluff range and it doesn't block any of the turn and river bluffs. AK with the K of spades is a pure fold becasue Kx of spades makes up a lot of the bluffs that continue turn and river.
Its the creativity to pick these bluffspots which makes these player great. A lot of players know theory in depth but you also have to have imagination to play well.
Also bluffs that will work in higher stakes , you can’t go around doing this shit in any other stakes. Which is why we don’t see these plays to begin with .
You call it creativity because its a very successful player making this play. And happens to be right this time. He’s not repping any hand by raising flop on this board and given positions.. What if Zhang has any overpair (which he will have a lot from EP), he gets called all day. Still a genius creative play?
@@pabl1to33 just my thought too.. what does he even represent with this line? But equally , that could be also what makes it successful. I just love how at 10NL I get snapped with pocket 7s here 🤣
The _constant_ tanking, on _every hand,_ on _every street_ … has become absolutely insufferable. I never thought I would be the person complaining about something like tanking, since I’ve always been a very deliberate, methodical player; But, the amount of tanking has become so absurd, that I don’t even want to play live tournaments anymore. Players don’t seem to realize that: _You want to play MORE hands with weaker players-not less. The more tanking there is, the less hands you play._ And they also don’t seem to realize-that, tanking has gotten _so bad,_ that many amateur/weaker players-no longer play in tournaments because they no longer enjoy playing, due to how slow the play has become. In case you guys didn’t know - Playing against _less_ bad players, is also -EV.
It really is a bad bluff though. Check raising the flop/all in river are the red flags. What are you representing there. A 10 is never check raising the flop and thats the only hand hes representing to do that. If he has 99 and lower hes not shoving river. JJ and up doesnt make sense or this hand woulda been all in preflop. So you tell us pro what hands make sense that he actually has with the line he took.
@@pali4434 "Making sense" in poker is something you could do in 2010. Now the best players in the world are taking lines that are solver approved and mathematically correct and balanced. Addamo is for sure flatting AA/KK, as well as C/R quads, as the solver would do this quite a large % of the time. I haven't checked this spot in a solver, but I'm pretty sure Q9s is one of the combos you are supposed to C/R and go three streets with on this runout. Addamo is a machine :)
@@pali4434 It's not even worth explaining to you tbh. Just seeing you mentioning AT in your comment indicates that this hand is beyond your understanding. You have no theoretical background whatsoever.
@@pali4434 he's representing a 10 or a J. And before you ask, yes he'd sometimes raise a T there (I'd venture to guess not AT since that A blocks a lot of his opponents continue range that's his trying to get value from, so probably a lot of weaker Tx). Lots of his check-raise bluffs would contain a J due to it's interaction with the T, so when that card hits, it's the perfect one to rip it and put A high and underpairs in a nasty spot. If he value shoves Jx here, this is a world-class bluff. He will sometimes run into QQ-AA/AJ, but there are lots of hands he folds out with this.
Because a lot of Addamo's bluffs contain a J due to it's blocker properties for the T and backdoor draws. It's very possible Addamo was bluffing OJ/J9 and is good enough to value shove it. If the J doesn't come and it's some low brick, he probably calls it off.
@@DoctorChained when you think you are good on the flop and the turn folding the river because a J might be in his range is just losing money in the long term. Surely you agree with me ? With the assumption that you always call the flop and turn. He surely was not just hoping his hand would improve there ?
adammo literally gulped and then hesitated to bet the turn while his opponent was staring at him and not once did he considered any of that, might as well just play online if this is your approach to the game.
This is why their is this old Axiom in Poker, Raise or Fold. Constantly Calling over and over is just weak, and the more you just call, the more it emboldens your opponents
Depending on the player, checking looks strong. And if the player is a calling station, even though it looks weak, bluffing a station is a bad idea. So there are lots of reasons why this bluff is ill-advised. This bluff fails most of the time and when it does it looks terrible. Viktor Blom got away with crazy over bets for a while, people thought he was a wizard but then everybody caught on and suddenly his busted bluffs looked awful and now he's washed.
Bad fold. Sorry. It was a jack or a miss. He doesn't check raise with a 10. He doesn't barrel with a small-mid pocket pair. He doesn't flat pre with JJ or QQ. And you block KK and AA. Snap call. If he caught the jack, so be it.
@@carpeimodiem you’re right… they all in he had was definitely a bluff… if he had 10 he would have bet small… even with other pocket pairs… he would have probably just bet light
Because they are bad, against calling stations you bluff less and bet big huge with your value hands. Always found it hilarious how people actually think playing against donks is harder
@@RYAN97639 he didnt call, he raised preflop. I dont know the blinds. But assuming he raised to 2.5x the blinds are ~11k which makes the effective stack ~60 BB and 31BB. We dont know anything about which stage of the tournament it is at (ICM). So making your shove decision is just bad/incomplete.
@@sesloajit5185 yeah that’s why I would have 4x-7x raised/re-raised seeing how much Big blinds I had left. It makes it harder for Q9 to play with such a high raise. On a 10/10/10 board, I’m going to play my AK like I have AA/KK/QQ and with that texture and bet size it makes it harder for Q9 to bluff. He let addamo reach to the river which made his position and bluff way more believable. the way he went all in at the end 90% players (including me) would have to fold! He definitely wont have a 10 playing that way. But these guys are pro so what they have their reasons and I’m not so just in my opinion…
On the river it is just a prayer "hope he doesnt have a pair and will fold" allin. If Zhang had a full house I doubt he would fold, by the same logic he should have called A high also.
Hard call on Ace high considering any pair would beat it. As played, when Addamo bet 48K (little more than 1/2 pot at the time) and considering all 10s on the flop he was either repping that he had a 10 or another decent pair for the boat. By the end with the river there was no flush threat and the all in bet was either pure bluff or he was beat. Most would not have called with only Ace high unless you got a really good read on your opponent. We also have no clue on past hands and if Zhang had gotten burned much by calling prior.
Again, he’s not repping any hand by raising the flop given the positions. EP has all the range advantage on that board. Also, he eliminates all smaller pairs in his range by taking the c/r, bet, all in line. He’s only repping quads, which he doesnt even raise all the time..
I never understood this player who calls a check raise, call the turn but fold at river, with that board anything u calling with pre river is a call regardless of shove or not. If you can't handle a shove then why play the hand at all
Nah he literally thought he was ahead until the jack. He was muttering the combos of jack his opponent could have possibly had. The ‘call turn, call river’ phrase is horribly misused.
check raise would've suggested pocket 6s - pocket 9s, can't discount the 10 too cuz that's definitely in addamo's check-raise range. addamo would've most likely checked river if he had a pocket pair cuz his hand has showdown value. i actually think he would shove a 10 cuz if he went for value it would've been too suspicious. there were probably only 2 hands that zhang could put him on, J10 and Q10. great bluff by addamo but i feel like zhang still could've called knowing addamo is very capable of pulling off bluffs like this.... check raise flop and bombing river just doesn’t make too much sense in this hand
It’s all very impressive until you stop getting lucky. And yes, luck also means making these plays when the opponent has nothing. I’ve seen these types of players throughout the decades…the lucky ones get famous, but their luck always always always runs out and they fade into obscurity again.
He was semibluffing his royal flush on the river. Seriously though, his line made no sense and most good players would have looked him up. Unless he balances his preflop range with just calling OOP with AA/KK/QQ which I doubt he does.
your kidding right? obviously one of the top 10 tournament players today properly balances his ranges, and btw your forgetting about any jack or smaller pair
@@roller2227 A smaller pair would not raise the flop given stack sizes, given they are relatively deep. Some people do information raises with small pairs and then shut down on turn once they get called, but a good player like Addamo would know that is -EV. A bluff that hit a jack might shove than having to call a shove from AA, but Zhang has all overpairs still in his range so I am not sure if that is a profitable play but if he did hit the river Jack I agree he just has to shove.
He is absolutely c/ring with quads some % of the time. Everyone just seems to think that quads is an auto slowplay and he cant possibly have it after raising flop.
@@kevinjohnson4498 Except quads are incredibly difficult to flop. If I am Zhang I am calling that river with K high or better. If he has quads it is GG NH.
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Addamo isn’t the type to slow down so if you’re calling the flop and turn why not call the river?
Meanwhile me going all in preflop with my misread A4o
addamo sickest player on the planet
theres so little michael addamo content available out there. I really want to watch him
Is that the guy sitting so up like he’s got a very large Corn of Cobb up his rectum?
He has an only fans
The hand is completely solver approved on Addamo's end. Zhang's play is also solver approved until the end. It mostly calls with that specific AK combo.
That specific combo feels like a call otr.
You forgot about the timing tells, though! 😁😂🤣
I think he got spooked by the J, thinking Addamo was value-shoving with a bluff that got there like J9 or QJ.
Mom told me that too
@@GummingPlobe It it doesn't block most of the flop c/r bluff range and it doesn't block any of the turn and river bluffs. AK with the K of spades is a pure fold becasue Kx of spades makes up a lot of the bluffs that continue turn and river.
nits at Bovada would have gone all in preflop
Malinowski saying he had J10 at the end 😂
Try this bluff in lower stakes. Someone would be shouting on the flop that he folded a Ten.
Did Michael Addamo do it?
If yes,
Then brilliant.
he should've gonne all in on the turn
zhang, you mean?
What is he repping here other than a 10?? Crazy to bluff quads
Addamo just has this smug look that says "I'm way better than you". And since he is right, it works haha.
zhang looks like a weaker player as well... just lucked out until he meets addamo
did he end up winning this match?
Its the creativity to pick these bluffspots which makes these player great. A lot of players know theory in depth but you also have to have imagination to play well.
Also bluffs that will work in higher stakes , you can’t go around doing this shit in any other stakes. Which is why we don’t see these plays to begin with .
You call it creativity because its a very successful player making this play. And happens to be right this time. He’s not repping any hand by raising flop on this board and given positions.. What if Zhang has any overpair (which he will have a lot from EP), he gets called all day. Still a genius creative play?
@@pabl1to33 just my thought too.. what does he even represent with this line? But equally , that could be also what makes it successful. I just love how at 10NL I get snapped with pocket 7s here 🤣
Can't judge the bluff in isolation without knowing the table dynamics
What dynamics? These two players are gto nerds
grow up and just make a call... It's not that serios...
Матусов там да с тузами стол собирает стоп ручник блайнды посчитал смотрю флоп jj и ниже
The _constant_ tanking, on _every hand,_ on _every street_ … has become absolutely insufferable.
I never thought I would be the person complaining about something like tanking, since I’ve always been a very deliberate, methodical player; But, the amount of tanking has become so absurd, that I don’t even want to play live tournaments anymore.
Players don’t seem to realize that: _You want to play MORE hands with weaker players-not less. The more tanking there is, the less hands you play._
And they also don’t seem to realize-that, tanking has gotten _so bad,_ that many amateur/weaker players-no longer play in tournaments because they no longer enjoy playing, due to how slow the play has become. In case you guys didn’t know - Playing against _less_ bad players, is also -EV.
They have a timer to prevent this at a lot of live tourneys now.
$100k+ buyin tourneys play quite different my friend. They are running solver nodes in their head in real time. They are allowed to tank lol.
Lately, it seems like Addamo is psychic.
Dark arts.. probably
Gotta love all the 1/2 wizards lambasting a beautiful bluff from one of the best in the world. 😂
It really is a bad bluff though. Check raising the flop/all in river are the red flags. What are you representing there. A 10 is never check raising the flop and thats the only hand hes representing to do that. If he has 99 and lower hes not shoving river. JJ and up doesnt make sense or this hand woulda been all in preflop. So you tell us pro what hands make sense that he actually has with the line he took.
@@pali4434 "Making sense" in poker is something you could do in 2010. Now the best players in the world are taking lines that are solver approved and mathematically correct and balanced. Addamo is for sure flatting AA/KK, as well as C/R quads, as the solver would do this quite a large % of the time. I haven't checked this spot in a solver, but I'm pretty sure Q9s is one of the combos you are supposed to C/R and go three streets with on this runout. Addamo is a machine :)
@@pali4434 It's not even worth explaining to you tbh. Just seeing you mentioning AT in your comment indicates that this hand is beyond your understanding. You have no theoretical background whatsoever.
@@pali4434 he's representing a 10 or a J. And before you ask, yes he'd sometimes raise a T there (I'd venture to guess not AT since that A blocks a lot of his opponents continue range that's his trying to get value from, so probably a lot of weaker Tx). Lots of his check-raise bluffs would contain a J due to it's interaction with the T, so when that card hits, it's the perfect one to rip it and put A high and underpairs in a nasty spot. If he value shoves Jx here, this is a world-class bluff. He will sometimes run into QQ-AA/AJ, but there are lots of hands he folds out with this.
@@uggibugg95 jesus christ.
the adamo era
Zhang should reraise addamo and shove all in on the turn! This players don’t know nothin about poker!
The question is not if the bluff was good but why you would call the flop and turn and fold the river.
Of course, and this hand is exactly the reason why you would do so. Your opp has to bet all 3 streets with a bluff, most give up after 2nd.
Because a lot of Addamo's bluffs contain a J due to it's blocker properties for the T and backdoor draws. It's very possible Addamo was bluffing OJ/J9 and is good enough to value shove it. If the J doesn't come and it's some low brick, he probably calls it off.
Because the 3rd bet changes things? A jack came on the river, and he could definitely have a hand with a jack in it.
@@DoctorChained when you think you are good on the flop and the turn folding the river because a J might be in his range is just losing money in the long term. Surely you agree with me ? With the assumption that you always call the flop and turn. He surely was not just hoping his hand would improve there ?
Brilliant or terrible?? It depends on if your last name is Negreanu or Hellmuth...
More impressed with the guy potentially calling than the bluff
Addamo is a monster
Depends. Who placed higher
The title of this video is terrible. Not brilliant.
He’s gulp on the turn knowing he has too bluff turn but doesn’t want too or knows he has to triple off at that point
It can be both
AK ez call
Always super easy when watching
Dude, that little smirk after making the river jam.... What a boss.
thats a tell. trying to look comfortable in a very uncomfortable situation..
@@pabl1to33 you're a broke bum with all the answers
adammo literally gulped and then hesitated to bet the turn while his opponent was staring at him and not once did he considered any of that, might as well just play online if this is your approach to the game.
What if he does this on purpose to psych the other dude out?, he won anyway
crazy !
Addamo is the biggest bluffer
He doesn't believe him calls and calls then he does believe.....
What exactly made him believe
Seems flawed thinking
That's a great bluff
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I'm going with 'Brilliant', because I am definitely NOT a brilliant poker player (although I'm not terrible...)
My two favorite players this year!
EASY CALL
Nice move
This is why their is this old Axiom in Poker, Raise or Fold. Constantly Calling over and over is just weak, and the more you just call, the more it emboldens your opponents
Depending on the player, checking looks strong. And if the player is a calling station, even though it looks weak, bluffing a station is a bad idea. So there are lots of reasons why this bluff is ill-advised. This bluff fails most of the time and when it does it looks terrible. Viktor Blom got away with crazy over bets for a while, people thought he was a wizard but then everybody caught on and suddenly his busted bluffs looked awful and now he's washed.
2:05 he had a big gulp before betting. Could be a reverse tell but since we know the card, it was really a tell.
Or he just gulped
@@VilliamGaming He gulps a lot in general, I think taking this as a tell in either direction would be bad.
Gross. If you’re calling him down the whole way because you know he’s full of shit, you HAVE to make that call there.
W8 until players know the bluff strategy of Addamo and he can't win anymore like Tom Dwan
Errr Tom has literally never stopped winning. He is a cash game god.
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Bad fold. Sorry. It was a jack or a miss. He doesn't check raise with a 10. He doesn't barrel with a small-mid pocket pair. He doesn't flat pre with JJ or QQ. And you block KK and AA. Snap call. If he caught the jack, so be it.
Bruh he can literally do the same with eights, nines, even sevens.
@@abhiramdegwekar9928 he doesn't barrel the river with those
@@carpeimodiem you’re right… they all in he had was definitely a bluff… if he had 10 he would have bet small… even with other pocket pairs… he would have probably just bet light
@@RYAN97639 also if Addamo had any idea Zhang had AK there's NO WAY he would have tried it.
@@carpeimodiem i feel like nines would value-shove there. Idk maybe i am wrong lol
When I call turn I'm never folding river
J is a bad card tho, u should call any blank.
The best in the world 🌎 bluffer 😂 more like
Brilliant.
gambling
Poker is 50% Luck 50% Skill
Why is it, at 10NL I literally get snapped with pocket 7s here 🤣
Because they are bad, against calling stations you bluff less and bet big huge with your value hands. Always found it hilarious how people actually think playing against donks is harder
michael zhang had to fold.... the position for addamo helped him alot. Zhang should have ripped AK harder preflop.
wtf are you talking about. pre is standard.
@@esentea wtf are you talking about,, you would have called?
@@RYAN97639 he didnt call, he raised preflop. I dont know the blinds. But assuming he raised to 2.5x the blinds are ~11k which makes the effective stack ~60 BB and 31BB. We dont know anything about which stage of the tournament it is at (ICM). So making your shove decision is just bad/incomplete.
Addamo defended his BB how can zhang rip it harder preflop?
@@sesloajit5185 yeah that’s why I would have 4x-7x raised/re-raised seeing how much Big blinds I had left. It makes it harder for Q9 to play with such a high raise. On a 10/10/10 board, I’m going to play my AK like I have AA/KK/QQ and with that texture and bet size it makes it harder for Q9 to bluff. He let addamo reach to the river which made his position and bluff way more believable. the way he went all in at the end 90% players (including me) would have to fold! He definitely wont have a 10 playing that way.
But these guys are pro so what they have their reasons and I’m not so just in my opinion…
He took way too long on the river. Its either a bluff or a slowroll
That makes zero sense bud. How can you slowroll when you're betting??
On the river it is just a prayer "hope he doesnt have a pair and will fold" allin.
If Zhang had a full house I doubt he would fold, by the same logic he should have called A high also.
Hard call on Ace high considering any pair would beat it. As played, when Addamo bet 48K (little more than 1/2 pot at the time) and considering all 10s on the flop he was either repping that he had a 10 or another decent pair for the boat. By the end with the river there was no flush threat and the all in bet was either pure bluff or he was beat. Most would not have called with only Ace high unless you got a really good read on your opponent. We also have no clue on past hands and if Zhang had gotten burned much by calling prior.
Again, he’s not repping any hand by raising the flop given the positions. EP has all the range advantage on that board. Also, he eliminates all smaller pairs in his range by taking the c/r, bet, all in line. He’s only repping quads, which he doesnt even raise all the time..
I never understood this player who calls a check raise, call the turn but fold at river, with that board anything u calling with pre river is a call regardless of shove or not. If you can't handle a shove then why play the hand at all
Nah he literally thought he was ahead until the jack. He was muttering the combos of jack his opponent could have possibly had. The ‘call turn, call river’ phrase is horribly misused.
check raise would've suggested pocket 6s - pocket 9s, can't discount the 10 too cuz that's definitely in addamo's check-raise range. addamo would've most likely checked river if he had a pocket pair cuz his hand has showdown value. i actually think he would shove a 10 cuz if he went for value it would've been too suspicious. there were probably only 2 hands that zhang could put him on, J10 and Q10. great bluff by addamo but i feel like zhang still could've called knowing addamo is very capable of pulling off bluffs like this.... check raise flop and bombing river just doesn’t make too much sense in this hand
Terrible
Playin donkey
Its part i get it
Too many try and lose
But hey they were "great"
Yeah right
Am I the only one who thinks both players misplayed every street?
yep
No, your mom probably does too
It’s all very impressive until you stop getting lucky. And yes, luck also means making these plays when the opponent has nothing. I’ve seen these types of players throughout the decades…the lucky ones get famous, but their luck always always always runs out and they fade into obscurity again.
You don't win as often as Addamo has through luck. The guy was a high level chess player as well as being an actuary. He understands the theory.
I dunno...I think many pros woulda figured it out. The line made no sense on any level.
Yea because they are doing such a great job figuring Addamo out. He’s the best right now.
@@SaltHoarder sorry, I forget he's the best right now...my bad.
Why not? You can raise quads on the flop.
@@JeffZuccMusk I don't think so. Look at the rules of the game.
Quads do check raise flop since Zhang will call atleast to see one more card with overs
He was semibluffing his royal flush on the river.
Seriously though, his line made no sense and most good players would have looked him up. Unless he balances his preflop range with just calling OOP with AA/KK/QQ which I doubt he does.
These videos open up comments from idiots playing $50 comps. Most good players, Do you know who Zhang is?
your kidding right? obviously one of the top 10 tournament players today properly balances his ranges, and btw your forgetting about any jack or smaller pair
@@roller2227 A smaller pair would not raise the flop given stack sizes, given they are relatively deep. Some people do information raises with small pairs and then shut down on turn once they get called, but a good player like Addamo would know that is -EV.
A bluff that hit a jack might shove than having to call a shove from AA, but Zhang has all overpairs still in his range so I am not sure if that is a profitable play but if he did hit the river Jack I agree he just has to shove.
He is absolutely c/ring with quads some % of the time. Everyone just seems to think that quads is an auto slowplay and he cant possibly have it after raising flop.
@@kevinjohnson4498 Except quads are incredibly difficult to flop. If I am Zhang I am calling that river with K high or better. If he has quads it is GG NH.