Team USA just didn't have the size - Brian Windhorst on loss to Germany in FIBA World Cup Semifinals
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- Team USA just didn't have the size - Brian Windhorst on loss to Germany in FIBA World Cup Semifinals | NBA Today
Brian Windhorst weighs in on Team USA's loss to Germany in the 2023 FIBA World Cup Semifinals.
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All the Talk about the German NBA Players while Andi Obst has given you the most problems is disrespectful
1000000000%
On point.
at 1:38 she could´ve said his name, but its just Germany and thenTy Halliburton slipping and then the USA 🤣🤣put some respect on Andi Obst er hat euch zerstört
Did u really watch the game? Franz was the one giving the US the most problems.
@@DaGoook Obviously, neither of you watched the game. Schroder had 9 assists in this game, he created for both Wagner and Obst.
The level of disrespect is unbelievable. They just lost and are talking about the Olympics.
What did you expect, it’s the US
true
The Olympics will have an A team not a C team like this one
@@rudyrude6263guess what Lithuania beat y‘all with their C-Team too. Most of the countries are missing some but nobody uses it as an excuse like the us. Serbia made the finals without jokic and micic btw.
@@aewisjericho8848Damn bro, you didn't have to slap them with the hard truth on this one😅
World champions of what!!!!! Exactly! This aged well
B team couldn't win, rough. Can't wait to win gold next year and see comments like this coincidentally dissappear
@@Gfro27B team or A team they suited up
@@Gfro27 excuses
@@Gfro27the Olympics are not the world championships, these are and the winner of this tournament is the only one that should call themselves world championships.
@@Gfro27 Everyone expect the gold medal in Paris. So US can only lose. Winning olympic gold means only the normality.
These are the results that really show the difference in NBA vs International competition. Size physicality & teamwork still has a place in the game. Everything doesn’t revolve around 3pt shooting & isolation basketball
I wouldn't say that the size the americans have wouldn't work, thereare teams who play like that and switch a lot. The US also switch a lot, but they block barely out also germany was going very hard for the off reb, often with 3 dudes.
The US problem was not the talent, it was the team mechanism during all the tournament. The help defense, blocking out , switch back/help missmatches ...
They didn't lost because germany had a good shooting night, they had a even better one keeping then in the game ... They had better percentages and the more difficult looks, and yes you may say better player makes more difficult looks as good - but the germans can shoot and Obst had clean looks like never before and he is probadly the best shooter on the court if you rule out shooting someone into the face out of the dribbling (which isn't a good shot anyway)
team basketball wins the game..not only individual skills and talent..the more assists per game the more chances of winning..
None of our best players played at FIBA. We save our best players for the Olympics. Imagine if they had to go up against these players from the U.S.
…
G - Steph Curry
G - Devin Booker
F - LeBron James
F - Kevin Durant
C - Anthony Davis
…
Reserves:
Damian Lillard
Trae Young
Kyrie Irving
De’Aron Fox
Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Jaylen Brown
Bam Adebayo
@@FreedomFighter2112then youre not world champs 😂😂
@@christiang5209 What?? They made average NBA players, for the most part, look like GREAT players. America's only issue was not size, but that was certainly part of it. The lack of blocking out, putting a body on a defender was ridiculous. This is international basketball, you better be able to rebound or shoot at a very high percentage. This is not the NBA. Why Kessler didn't play at all is beyond me. He could have made a difference.
FIBA World Cup is a basketball championship, while the Olympics feature multiple sports. Therefore, winning the FIBA World Cup is more significant than winning the Olympics in basketball.
Perfect Explaination❤🙌🏻🔥
Lol. The Olympics are the world champions. Stop playing dumb.
American: "bu..buuuut Olympics is more prestigious than fiba WC" 😂😂
I mean, seriously. It's like saying that in football, the most important tournament is the Olympics and not the World Cup.🙄 @@euphonium1406
OK LET'S SEE WHAT THE YANKEES WILL DO.@@euphonium1406
For a team that has a lot of athleticism, and supposed to be an asset on defense, giving up 113 points is unforgivable
and they play basketball every day, they are paid millions of dollars to play basketball, and they have the best coach, training, and all the tools to get better.
Have you watched an nba game? They don’t play any defense
10min quarter game if I may add. That's like 3 nba quarters and a 5min OT.
113 is their favorite number in rigged sports. It’s why the nba star Kobe debuted on 11/3, said he beat Tmac 11-3 and pandemic suspended nba play on 11/3. It’s a number signaling dishonest and deception. You’re being mocked with rigged sports, enjoy being somebody’s fool
@@jonathanolivier6932 it was not the players fault but the head coach fault. If you've been watching the Warriors, they won championships when they stll have tall players and good shooters but because Kerr prefer playing short players, tall players went to other teams resulted in losing to the LA Lakers this 2023 season. Both teams were quick and skilled but Germany were taller that is why they beat the USA team. THe other thing was how come they selected Kerr to be the coach when the Warriors did not even made it to the NBA Final Championship?
When will Americans understand that you need a team, not a bunch of good players to win this?
yes, and the european nations hustle a ton more in the World Cup.
So much that until 2014 Yugoslavia/Serbia was the biggest champion alone at the top.
BTW, they are playing Germany on sunday looking for their 6th championship (roughly)
You say that like Team USA aren't consistent winners and pretty much guaranteed medalists. Save your advice for everyone else.
@@justlurkin well in the last 25 years they won it twice. Just as much as Spain and Yugoslavia
Team USA learned that a long time ago! Whether or not the players THEMSELVES want to commit to represent USA is a different story...
@@halkthe3th Since 1986, they've medaled 7/10 times and won gold 4 of those 7. Again they hardly need that advice when no one else has done better.
Andreas Obst won the game and not even a mention ayayay...you didn't really watched the game, haven't you?
i mean the fact they said they got outworked and outrebounded showed that they didnt watch it.
Obst is a sniper, killer say it how u want it. Last year in Eurobasket destroyed in quarterfinals a full team of Greece with Giannis and this year USA. Get this man in NBA contender team
They should send him to the jazz or something, how this man isn't in NBA baffles me, it shows that there are talented individuals who aren't in the NBA 🤔
@@ayidonno agree 100 percent, perhaps politics or not good scouting , who knows.
100% one of the best motion shooters I’ve ever seen
Andi Obst wasnt really a size problem though. Said it at the start of the tournament. This team doesnt take defence seriously from minute 1 to minute 40. They think they can turn it up in the 4th and just shut teams down. Germany however remained hot and played extremely well. So even good defence wasnt stopping them
They weren’t that good that barely beat Canada
@@estelalopez3563 Ehm - Germany is undefeated so far in the world cup. the goal is to get the job done in the end on the scoreboard. they had many weak moments throughout the whole tournament BUT they always adjusted and got the job done. And honestly Canada played smarter than the US. Not better just smarter.
They had the size. Let's be real... They got out worked, out hustled
No, Walker Kessler wasn’t really that good to be defending those Germans and JJJ was trash this entire game.
yep, they didnt play defense
@@lyricsking754I wouldn’t say he’s not good the Americans don’t make good centers like we used to. Analytics killed basketball
& these other teams always play with eachother
@@tayluc777 i have to said the American cancel the center position and they are now crying. They want their center to just do pick and roll or shoot 3s. Do not have a post up game anymore. This is why USA has to play fast. But Germany is fast and has the size to post up USA players.
This what happens when you play real basketball. No superstar calls. No phantom fouls. USA cant just show up and win.
No superstar players lol
bring back Tim Duncan and David Robinson from 1999 when they took over after Jordan left. Or stop using rookies in 2023 to represent the whole country.
i mean they still got phantom calls. Like the theis block on edwards.
Anthony Edwards.@@9doggie12
😂😂😂 You do realise this USA Team is a group of bench and role players... Edwards being the exception
This was not a size issue, it was a lack of effort and awareness on the boards
right. Theis was their 5 and he's 6'8".
Facts
When 2 people lack effort and awareness on boards has a ball up for rebounds -- who gets it, the 6'5 or the 6'8? Of course size was issue.
@@bigradwolf5001 kinda true but not so true when there's josh hart grabbing those boards when he's around. So sad that he's such good awareness like Lonzo (sadly not playing much), wish the bigger guys can have his awareness. There's Barkley and rodman (and even Popeye Jones if throw in another name known for boards) before this era, so we all know about what's awareness..
Lack of talent* this team USA is the worst squad ever, a lot of mid players
In Football, they value Fifa World cup over Olympics. Why do US don't take Fiba World cup seriously like other countries do?
Why US star players don't want to play in National Team. Luka feels it is a honor playing his national team, Bogdanovic feels the same. Something is going wrong in US basketball players.😢
It´s time for the NBA teams stop thinking about playing small. Denver with Jokic has shown how good a team can be with a big. I miss the time when we saw Shaq, Ewing, Olajuon, Duncan, David Robson,. ..I´m glad Europe plays team sport, and values all positions, basketball is a show, but it has to be a game before it becomes a show.
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!
And all those bigs you named can defend and rebound ..half these new bigs cant even do that
@@mordakie3805the current bigs arent even big.
Dumb comment. Jokic is big but hes hardly a traditional 5. None of those centers you mentioned play anything like Jokic.
@@vulcanraven9701😂agreed ✅😂🤣
Obst was unbelievable 🔥
They gotta bring him to the NBA or a better European team like Barcelona or Madrid
@@ayidonno I don't watch European basketball so not sure if it was a one game performance or he's actually that good. Gonna see how he performs in the final. But you could see there's a player in him l, definitely could make the NBA
@@madhatter113 he’s always a killer for the national team. Was fantastic in the last Eurocup, in which Germany took the bronze
I blame the development of these players. They play pretty much hero ball more than fundemental basketball, which is what the rest of the world plays especially in Europe. Thats why when the likes of Giannis, Luka, Jokic started to dominate the NBA, they make it all look easy. Luka and Jokic even said it, that the NBA is easier than playing in Europe.
Even in AAU basketball, they are not playing the right way. Kobe dispises the AAU for not teaching the kids how to play right. Its a systematic problem!
I blame the D. It was just terrible.
Team USA doesn't have role players, it's a bunch of NBA players who play redundant roles. When everyone is a scorer and a playmaker, then you don't have any defenders or screen-setters or rebounders. You need players who can play multiple roles.
There’s no more skilled players outside of maybe 3 or 4 players in America. Majority of them are athletic and get hyped for just being athletic. The world has always been on par with America outside of the 92 olympic team which was stacked with skilled talent. America has always had a roster of NBA players and if you see their opponents they usually have one or 2 nba players and a bunch of role players who play for small club teams. Even the redeem team had trouble with Spain in the finals until Kobe made clutch plays. I think there was maybe 2 or 3 nba players on that 08 Spanish roster.
The way current NBA players are so underdeveloped fundamentally i don’t see them progressing when it comes to FIBA rules of play.
I always say if you want to see which NBA player has skill it’s simple. All you have to do is shrink up the court, get rid of the defensive 3 seconds and allow handchecking and 97% of NBA players won’t average more than 12 PPg.
@@Sammyk94950 You make good points. NBA is less skill-based than its ever been. The reason why unathletic guys like Luka & Jokic can dominate while being stocky and slow.
AAU is trash.
Small ball works in the NBA because there’s less physicality compared to the rest of the world league
And that is just sad. Once it was the opposite and Euro players needed to adapt to NBA physicality. Now it's soft ball with giant us players flopping around and being useless in defense
... and they have the king of small ball coaching the team. We have enough tape now to put together a sensible roster for FIBA. Not have guard Josh Hart lead the team in rebounding. This roster was laughable.
Small ball would work if we had at least 1 top 20
Player on the roster
small ball works in NBA because their court is a lot wider and have different rules than fiba
Nuh small ball also works in FIBA😂, its just american players doesnt know the fundamentals of defense and positioning because its not cool and not cringy worth, they only just rely on their athleticsm and NBA trainers allow it to happen because the NBA game is entertainment not competition, when was the last time US have a 2 way player like kawhi and paul george😂
The rest of the world has caught up and that’s great for basketball. On top of that, it’s become an honor even for big stars to play for national teams. That makes fiba basketball even more interesting!
Can we stop making excuses for us losing lol . We lost plain and simple and making the argument that our top guys weren’t there is irrelevant. Even with this squad we were favorites. Can’t be competitors or love the game so much that we complain and make excuses . We’ll have to be better next time. Good game Germany.🇩🇪
The whole Team USA should be sent directly to America's Got Talent show! 😂
The G league more like it
Americans and their confidence. The world isn't merely catching up; they've recently become interested in the game. It's time to acknowledge the defeat and move forward. Even players like Durant and LeBron would face a tough challenge against these competitors.
Stop. If Durant and Lebron are out there then Germany gets wiped
@@lordfinesse4173they couldn't play three games without getting hurt
@halkthe3th only thing I'm saying is if the US put their best talent out there like everyone else the US wins. It's literally been proven time and time again. The best players will be out there in 2024 in Paris
@@lordfinesse4173 If Lebron & KD were out there there's a chance they'd get hurt. FIBA is a much more physical game, something Lebron obviously can't handle given all the flopping he does in the softer NBA. KD would fine because he doesn't play like that, strictly jumpshots. But yeah, having a team full of guys on the wrong side of 30 doesn't necessarily work in out favor either. Especially because the USA A-team wouldn't be that interested in playing Defense either. NBA style doesn't translate to FIBA well, that's probably the biggest issue.
@@swarajthapa5798 That's because Team USA is often a mix-match of NBA talent who all play redundant roles on their respective teams. Everyone is a pick&roll ballhandler but nobody can set the screen. Everyone is a 3pt shooter but nobody can boxout & rebound. Everyone can switch everything but nobody can play lockdown Defense. So however you spin it it's not a complete team.
NBA players on each team
USA - 12
Germany - 4
Noah Lyles was right 🤷🏿♂️
I think the Nuggets could actually have a great shot in beating this USA team though.
@@datsapaddlinnuggets are a club team. This is international basketball
@@almosteverythingisalie2610 I think the Nuggets could beat this team USA though. When you really look at it they only had one guy that is probably gonna be a top 10 player one day.
Lyle's isn't right. The nba is the highest level of competition in basketball. As such the champion of that competition is the best in basketball and by definition the world champions. Even your 'world champion' and FWC MVP schroder was swept by the nuggets, who you insist aren't world champions.
Noah Lyles rubbing his hands like birdman 😂
Meanwhile my boy Walker Kessler sitting on the bench for the whole tournament😢. There's your size right there, he just didn't play.
Austin Reaves was considering playing for Team Germany until Team USA picked him. It's ironic that he gets eliminated by Team Germany.
... and received the last dagger shot in 1v1 against his buddy Dennis. Poor guy 😅
Wait till he doesn't get picked for Olympic squad.
@@rahowherox1177then he might goes to Germany 😂
Like one of the commenters said,I think it's more of a developmental issue. These are all guys that's use to having a system run thru them and throwing up 20+ shots/gm. Most, if not all, of TEAM USA are devoid of the fundamentals of off-ball movement and screens, boxing-out, passing, rotating, etc. Bunch of overpaid, ball-dependent, ISO-centric players. But this is how they teach bball nowadays.
Facts all around
Agree 100%
Its like they teach basketball backwards in the US, versus Europe, they all shoot well, box out, use their feet on D. Guys dont learn fundamentals till the NBA.
is it like skateboarding, learning tricks on the board but not beeing able to drive it?
Because they compete against one another all the way back in high school
Nah they just had a coach that gets carried by curry coaching a team that doesn't have curry 😂
You're telling me 12 nba players couldn't beat Dennis and the Wagner brothers? lol
World champions
Most german players are Euro League top level talents, they are not just any random ballers. Most of them have a quite big skillset and play their roles well. One real factor was, that they play together since the Eurobasket last year and have an understanding of the group, the gameplan, second and third options and play as a cohesive unit. If you know the players, you are less suprised by the outcome, especially concerning the bigs Germany was the deeper team. From my perspective it is not just a case of being labeled NBA player of not, some german players like Lo or Obst could certainly be NBA role players, and even among NBA players there are vast differences, if you compare LeBron and Boban for example, they are both NBA players, but not on the same level.
Big props to Germany. They played lights out. Respect 🫡
Congrats to germany, but as an American, even with this roster this falls on the coach. Other teams are beating us using bench players from the NBA as well, while we still have fringe all stars. We did not start Walker Kessler, we did not play Tyrese more, Jalen Brunson is great for the NBA but not FIBA (-15 Net today). Reaves was on fire but only played 21 minutes. Steve Kerr saying we lost because others got better, wrong we lost because they were playing chess and we were playing checkers. We lost because they maximized the talent pool with what they had, and we were playing Golden State warrior basketballl without Steph. Embarrassing.
I agree. All of those supposed great NBA minds on the bench and we have no ball movement, no attempt at an inside game. Meanwhile, other teams free up their shooters by passing extensively and throw the ball inside to exploit mismatches and utilize their size. Against us, teams can pack the lane bc they know we have no mentality of passing, and/or they don't fear our shooters. Brunson did a good drive and dish to Reaves for a three and I remember thinking that was probably the only one of the whole tourney
get em...Melo...tell these m-f,,,,,,,
Are you kidding me lmao. Everyone's been saying Tyrese is some kind of "point god" second coming of CP3 or sth similar, in 19 minutes all he got was 7 points? What do you think he would've gotten if he stayed in for the full minutes? They didn't play him more cos he wasn't producing, period.
You kinda hit the nail on the head and missed the point too my dude. International basketball is a coaches game while the nba is a players game. Kerr is definitely deserving some of the blame but nobody takes coaches seriously in the US, certainly not these young multimillionaires. Which basically means that a game with so many possessions (small ball equals much faster pacing) at this level requires a coach getting involved constantly. Kerr (and all the league’s coaches) sets up the game plan and sits down. It’s all up to the players because that’s how the players want to and the results couldn’t have been any different. Certainly not with this lineup.
Reaves was a liability in defense. Jt destroyed him. Basketball is not all about offense.
Okay it's criminal not mentioning Obst because he isn't NBA player and it's ridiculous saying last to for USA was JJJs foult like Ant throw it to literally nobody
Basketball is about size and match up but Steve loves small lineup 😂
World champions at excuses
The NBA doesn't really care about offensive rebounds nowadays. That's all the way from coaches to players. But in FIBA, in a smaller court, they are more significant. That's what happens when you neglect one element of the game because is undervalued in the NBA environments. A gap that can be easily explored by anyone that understands a bit of basketball.
PS: Banchero is the smallest 6'10 250lbs I've seen in terms of paint presence
If 6’10” 250 is considered small in any way the modern day NBA stands no chance.
@@Stardust414 in terms o paint presence, I was quite clear. The opposite would be Moses Malone, to be even more clear, which has similar height and weight but destroys opponents in the paint
"But in FIBA, in a smaller court, they are more significant."
FIBA: 28 m × 15 m
NBA: 28,65 m × 15,24 m
That is about 2 feet longer and 1 foot wider. That is about 2.3% in size. One step more on the field.
Seems not very reasonable asa excuse.
"We don't have the size"... Dennis Schroeder laughing out loud
As the late great Kobe Bryant stated "No matter where we play. We play in here, we play on Mars, anywhere. If you shut somebody down and rebound the basketball, you're going to win no matter who you're playing against, and I think that's the standard that we have to set."
None of our best players played at FIBA. We save our best players for the Olympics. Imagine if they had to go up against these players from the U.S.
…
G - Steph Curry
G - Devin Booker
F - LeBron James
F - Kevin Durant
C - Anthony Davis
…
Reserves:
Damian Lillard
Trae Young
Kyrie Irving
De’Aron Fox
Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Jaylen Brown
Bam Adebayo
@@FreedomFighter2112remember USA vs Spain 2012 Olympics?
meanwhile lebrun: Imma take my talent to Germany!
@@FreedomFighter2112 most of those superstars dont play in the olympics anymore, either
@@FreedomFighter2112Lithuania missed 7 of their best players as well. Also did Serbia. We need all our best in the Olympics or we will be toast.
The nba is an entertainers league while the world is dead serious... plus we have to just admit it the world has caught up they rose their floor and now their average players are high level pros if not nba players themselves.
Comes down to the grass roots and fundamentals, all these AAU and focusing individuals on the next Lebron/Kobe/MJ. You rarely see mixed tape of a young players on defense or teamwork.
yeah, but the fiba games look way more watchable than nba games. you see more basketball and less timeouts, referees, entertainment 🎉
Yea this is what kobe was complaining about and what he was willing to fix with his Mamba Academy but we see how that turned out..
That's nonsense. Watching the nuggets and this Germany team is night and day. It's very clear that the nuggets would dominate the 'world champions'. This isn't even a hypothetical really, given Germany's best player, schroder, got swept by the nuggets. Explain how those 'entertainers' whooped FWC MVP schroder so badly?
@@krisxchirbas9503 I think u should read what I wrote before answering and ya question will easily be answered...😑 🤦🏾
Anthony Edwards: “We don’t have a Kobe.”
This is it.
It was not size...it was the pure basics of basketball that USA keeps on missing
They had a true 7 foot center who excels in rebounding and blocking but Kerr and the other coaches didn’t seem to realize that. It doesn’t make sense why they would play Portis over BI and Kessler.
BI was out sick for this game.
Kessler got killed every minute he was in the game because the US switched everything and he's too slow.
No excuses. The overall talent and depth was there. USA simply made no adjustments and was out-smarted. That's just horrible coaching!
Yeah I agree; I’ve been curious about that ever since the Exhibition/Friendly games in early August. Would’ve thought he would’ve been utilized more.
I knew they were going to lose when Kessler got no minutes
Stars might win a Game or two but teams wins medals.. even the great Kobe Said … Most nba Players dont Know the fundamentales of basketball…
It was a great Game
"Jaren Jackson Jr couldn't quite get this catch." XD You meant to say when ANT turned the ball over.
Yes, and the ANT shot sa sudden 3 pointer less than 2 minute mark instead of setting the ball up as a team or go for a sureball 2 pointer.
Ant played great. Others not so not. Maybe some of these guys need to learn defense and rebounding.
@75jessejohnson Ant didn't play great last 3-4 mins
@@75jessejohnson @condellong I was just refereeing to Malika Andrews terrible assessment of the play between JJJ and ANT.
Exactly that was a terrible pass. But I can’t even blame Ant or JJJ. It felt like coaching was so bad, no real plan or execution or communication
Windhorst is one of the most German names ever … especially in my region in West Germany / Muensterland
He mentioned in an other interview his family is from Germany
Yeah, but with 160 KG he is definetly an American
I think that's also the surname of Hertha Berlin's Investor/owner btw
I hate all americans saying: We did not have ur best players. Then send ur best players or u are not the best basketball nation in the world right now
If you wanna be call a world champ, you have to win world championship.
If you win an Olympic, you're just an Olympic Champion.
Just like in any other sports, it takes a good chemistry to win international competition.
I don't understand how come they didn't get Mikal the ball the last 7 mins.
Great win for Germany. You can tell it doesn't matter athleticism anymore. it is more about fundamentals, and that's what they got. Team chemistry is crazy
Mikal is not the guy you want to close out games with
At least they are still world champions of the NBA
Ros is a really good analyst!
There is 0 good analysts in ESPN.
This loss has nothing to do with size. The lost the 3rd quarter by 11 points because of too much hero ball by AntMan and Brunson. The ball was not moving. Unlike Germany which was playing team ball, we played individual ball. When Reaves entered the game midway thru the 3rd, he didn’t get a touch on the ball because of no ball movement. When he finally got touches in the 4th, he scored 11 points and got us to within 1 point. Tyrese Halliburton and Reaves do the best job of moving the ball and getting others involved. Hopefully for the 3rd place game, Kerr starts either Halliburton or Reaves instead of Brunson (whose +/- was -19 in this game) and start Ingram (if healthy) over Josh Hart.
We would’ve won this game if we played team ball with the right players on the court instead of one on one hero ball that’s way too prevalent in the NBA.
it was a battle of team vs crowd of best individual players. Team won.
@@Lawson8489 Team of best individuals who were willing to play in a tournament top players eg Jokic, Giannis, top US players etc don’t really take seriously
@@xman933 For me to play in US National Team is a honor.
@@xman933 You know Jokic and Giannis wouldn't be on Team USA right? Giannis was on the Greece team but I believe he got Injured.
Kerr-"It's not 1992", yea its not because our best players are all no where to be found hiding behind twitter accounts
🎯💯
That is an All Stars game weekend defence . That has nothing to do with size.
Germany just played better basketball over USA in this game. And it happend to be a knock out game. Anything can happen in just 1 game. One picked when they want to play their best basketball and the one had their probably worst defense.
They barely beat them it’s not 30 points and people forget the coaches are winners because France was doing well but they lost this year
There was plenty of young talent that would’ve fit FIBA style better but Kerr loves small ball.. Mobley, Bam, Mitchell Robinson, claxton, looney, Jarrett Allen, Robert Williams lll, Myles turner, lamelo, Cade Cunningham dearon fox…
Kerr is the most overrated coach. Nothing without steph
Windhorst acting like it was impossible to win because we didn’t have enough size is so comical lol we lost because we underestimated our opponents and got outplayed…Who decided to fire guys like jalen rose, who has played high level basketball his whole life and keep people like windhorst, who has clearly never been on a basketball court at all? He was fine as lebrons personal reporter but him giving actual analysis of the game will always be funny.
You definitely right. i see how countries call their best players to win this World Cup even Canada, but only US team comes with team C.
Not mentioning Andy Obst shows that none of the reporters or editors have watched the game
People saying “we dont have the best players on court”. WAKE UP! So does the other countries! A bunch of players are retired as well for them. This is the new generation.
Please inform me which players from other countries didn’t play compared to our best players which I can name more than 20 that didn’t play
@@rudyrude6263Serbia don't have Joker and still make to the gold medal game
@@rudyrude6263 from germany alone its Hartenstein and Kleber, from other nations just from top of my head Wemby, Jokic, Rubio, Sabonis, Porzingis, The Greek Freak, Murry, Wiggins, Micic, Marjaonvic etc
Guys, let's ask WHY NBA stars don't want to be in National Team? This is a serious question.
@@rudyrude6263 yeah you pretty much got owned on that comment hahaha
As what many people throughout the world says, the nba no longer has defense and it shows during their games in fiba
The NBA has soft defensive rules and no hand checking making the American player soft and weak at defense.
NBA does not play defense. We just expect stars to just show up. They don’t know real fundamentals it’s just athleticism and iso
Teamwork beats talent.Great execution beats one on one NBA style of play.That also happened in Canada vs Serbia.European basketball at it's finest and a very good thing for basketball!
we have Franz Wagner and the best shooter in whole europe, were quite talented. ;)
I think you mean Teamwork beats talent. Lol. I get your point though.
The best of Europe barely beat USA C team. I think Euro style is overrated.
@@kingquestOZ It is how real basketball is played.And those European teams have only a few NBA players on their rosterversus a team loaded with NBA stars!
@@kingquestOZSerbia is missing a lot of players to, they are playing for the gold tho.
Did he just say this isn’t 92? Smh. The original Dream Team defended like no other. They were the perfect team. Size. Skill. Defense. Offense. Has nothing to do with the opponent.
Too many excuses, we were suppose to be the team that “can beat any team with any American player”
This not old times no more Like Kurr said 🤷🏾♂️ USA basketball fans as a whole need to take these games more seriously
That hasn't been true for awhile now. The 2002 team was placed 6th and lost to Yugoslavia. That team had Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Ben Wallace, Paul Pierce, Shawn Marion, Michael Finley, Baron Davis, and Reggie Miller. The 2019 team was 7th place and had a young Jaylen Brown, Spida Mitchell, Jayson Tatum, Brooke Lopez, Miles Turner, Khris Middleton and Kemba Walker. So this isn't first time the USA didn't win a medal. The rest of the world is just getting better and the USA needs the elite players to participate.
hahaha, you must be dreamin, this is year 2023. American dynasty is over. No more american dream team because they already retired and now old. Eve you put the best NBA players if you have a coach like Kerr still not guarantee. Kerr prefer dwarf NBA players.
@JaySwavo you think they didn't take it seriously? Other teams just got better. Team USA has 12 nba players that wanted to win but they got beat. It's that simple
When was last time USA basketball won on the global stage? 2020 olympics? Seems like forever ago
There’s a competition where USA is and always will be the undisputed champ: EXCUSES.
Americans whining they didn't have their best players ... Serbia without their two best players, including the best player in the NBA, and they're in the finals. 😂
Germans were lucky to get by Latvia with Dennis Schroeder shooting an amazing 4 for 25! But they all played well against the U.S. including Dennis.
other international teams are also more or less a pick up team, many do play overseas and even NBA. I'm more surprised by these german players playing more than their NBA worth and duties. Schroder was so in control in every possession, he was playing the traditional point guard this game. Truly impressed with his patience. And not to mention Obst knocking down those 3s to keep their team in command.
That's because to a lot of other countries the World Cup is the pinnacle of any sport. That's the time when you put it all on the line for glory.
Should have started banchero. Franz Wagner was great last year omg this year he's a beast. Him and his brother mo and Schroeder did good as well controlling the floor
You must be a magic fan like me 🤣. Franz did kill it though 💯
we can all agree NBA players are the most talented players in the world but with the NBA rules that always protect the offensive player and can play hero ball it made the league less physical. They were beat with teamwork , hustle and fundamentals to the game.
I certainly agree
You have NBA players playing other NBA players. Thats why they lost. NBA mechanics are easier than European mechanics like many have said. Plus all these opponent teams have seasoned NBA players who know exactly how to take advantage of their colleagues in the NBA.
Because NBA is entertainment first, ball second. Money is the major drive in NBA, while for FIBA, its the nations pride at stake.
USA learned now that their game in Dubai was just the Germans giving them the free lanes.
Why are these guys representing team US? Where is Durant, Lillard, Curry, Embiid, Jokic, etc....?
Two bad unforced turnovers costed the game. Also, JJJ exposed, how was he DPOY leaving the paint wide open? Shot blocking is not the only defensive attribute, sorry, NBA lame. World basketball shows the intangibles matter more in a team game, individual accolades of the NBA mean nothing.
He was a 4 not 5
This is why all these awards that player get are based on PR machine fronted by U.S based media. How did he get DPOY over O.G? And don't telk me about Raptors record b/c for the past 10 decades we have been having winning seasons & O.G played extremely great defense for all 6 yrs he is been in the league & only got 2nd team All D this year. None of who made the 1st team All D is better than O.G on D.
Although it’s a disappointing lost, people need to understand this is not like old times anymore. International teams are improving & teaming up for YEARS. This USA Team only been together for 2 months. Our best USA players are all older in their mid to late 30’s… Jokic Giannis Embiid Luka are amongs the top players in the NBA & they’re all international players so that should tell people something
Don't come with that 2 months excuse, other teams were also 2 months together, Germany lost 2 weeks ago from USA in Abu Dhabi
lol every team has been together for 2 months dude
None of our best players played at FIBA. We save our best players for the Olympics. Imagine if they had to go up against these players from the U.S.
…
G - Steph Curry
G - Devin Booker
F - LeBron James
F - Kevin Durant
C - Anthony Davis
…
Reserves:
Damian Lillard
Trae Young
Kyrie Irving
De’Aron Fox
Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Jaylen Brown
Bam Adebayo
@@FreedomFighter2112 The big "imagine if". Being best means nothing if they dont show up. Its ok, NBA is still the "world champions" of the USA.
It wasn't disappointing because I was rooting for Germany. 😂🤣
world champion of what
Germans are amazing at sports, you never want to underestimate them
1:49 not jjj fault to not get this catch as he was expecting their topscorer antman to take the open shot so he went for the potential rebound.
This is the real basketball without superstar calls,ghost fouls, duumb def 3 in key rule, soft referees and thats what lacks the NBA. NBA nowadays being a spoiled parent to bunch on nba players especially superstars
You forgot 5 (+) step non travels
@@rahowherox1177 yeah and also 5 sec back to basket sht 🤦
A Cohesive Team beats Individual Talent anytime.
Malika tried to say this was the A- team😂😂😂😂😂this was the D team
USA is the only country in the world, who's players care morw about the NBA, than playing for their national team
F if Germany has NBA players. “World Champions of what?”
It comes down to basketball fundamentals that are just not emphasized in the US anymore.
Boxing out for rebounds just does not show up on a highlight tape. Neither do hustle plays.
And cant believe Walker Kesslers name was mentioned - he had no business on the courts, that‘s why he didnt play.
Oh and btw, Serbia is playing with their B team as well:)
Even if the US brings their „stars“, it is not a sure shot anymore.
Jokić alone is better than any superstar afroamerican USA can put to the team.
delusional much?@@unwokeneuropean3590
It's called country pride, that's what fueled the Germans
tell this to our soccer players. they dont show the pride!
its actually love for each other and skill. they surely enjoy playing for their country, but country pride isnt what makes this team so good
@@schumi26 🤣🤣😂😂I can't help you there brother
@@nilsnerd alrighty
Team USA had enough size. JJJ / Portis / Kessler are all 6 ft 10 in or taller. But they combined to only play 28 minutes.
And banchero
The US are always waiting for someone to ‘take over’ the game. How about playing as a team down the stretch? Ever watched the San Antonio Spurs?
Anthony Edwards, Jaren Jackson Jr., and Tyrese Haliburton must be proud by being a F or C tier player lol
Honestly what did everyone expect? This team had a bunch of really good young players and not one vet or superstar. The world had caught up to us
Bobby portis is a vet. Ant Edwards is a superstar.
everyone expected that the NBA stars are so far ahead of the rest that they easily win no matter what. Schroeder barely got a minimum contract like a year or two ago and he's basically the heart of the german team. Ant Edwards is hyped, Banchero is a 6'10 No1 pick. Brunson just got the huge contract as starting pg for the Knicks. Where are the germans playing and what roles do they have?
@@AntonioSantos-yp4pwAnthony Edwards is far from a superstar. Superstars are best players on championship teams. There are about 5 superstars in NBA at a time. Jokic, Giannis, Curry, LeBron , KD and maybe a few other guys are the only superstars.
Edwards is too inconsistent offensively and an average defender and inconsistent on that end. He’s also not a great passer or play maker. He’s a great on ball scorer but that doesn’t make you a super star.
Why?US doesn't want be the greatest in the world anymore?
@@AntonioSantos-yp4pwif boby Portis is your vet then thats a problem. Ant will be a superstar. He isn't one yet as that turnover at the end showed
I think its not the size only, if you put too much size, you will give up many threes. There is size like Kessler but was barely used. And there is Portis, Jarret Jackson. They just chose to play small to speed up transition.and isolation and coverage against threes. But in reality, Eiropean.Teams are also speeding up and adjusted well to NBA talents.
European basketball very underrated
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Kerr said this is not 1992 teams are better players are better”
1:39 is it so hard to appreciate Andi Obst instead of saying what an error from the us guy???
This shows how the media is limited when it comes to the basketball sport instead of the product NBA
If Serbia wins the WC without Jokic.
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World champ at loosing 😂
Team USA were playing small ball like they have Draymond at PF/C and Curry and Klay as your guards. You have to play the style your roster allows. Kerr may have had the wrong strategy for who they were facing.
+1
The thing these fools didn't mention is it's not like theis, Mo Wagner and Voightmann are giants. USA had enough size at the big spots, just not at the forward spots
Disrespect all the way by Americans...
Let me humbly teach you another lesson from Europe. It's 3000 years old from Aesop: "The fox and the grapes".
"Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.' People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves."
Ros Gold-Onwude 🔥 analysis and elegance 4:49
I hope those nba players can understand now.There is a difference between being the best and being a champion. Not being the champion doesn’t mean you are not the best. You can be the best and not be the champion. If they were not in their feelings, they would understand Lyles.
Team USA just need to realise Europe is now better at team basketball
Germany deserved to win.
It was the better team.
To all the young basketball players out there this is just another lesson that analytics don’t matter in the heat of the moment. Analytics don’t show heart and will power in any game and that’s what the USA lacked. Once the game got physical everything went out the window. If you get crushed on rebounds and don’t adjust you will lose 95% of the time.
Yes, this is the first team of America analytic players with no bball iq. I’m glad they got beat, analytics in the nba created idiot American players
Absolutely not in the 70's, 80's we are in the year 2023 now , world athletes now are more taller, stronger, and faster.
World champion usa setting records