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Yihua 948 De-Soldering Station Heat-up time - Pht error code - Can we use it as a soldering iron?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2024
- This is another look at the Yihua 948 De-Soldering Station. We will be reviewing how to get a better suction for de-soldering. We will also be checking to see if we can use a De-Soldering gun as a soldering iron in a pinch. How long does it take to heat the station up before we can use it, and what the PHT error code means.
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Contents of this video
00:00 - Introduction
05:15 - Different types of De-Soldering Pumps
06:13 - Proper way to De-Solder
08:13 - Appling Silicone Grease to Spring
10:05 - De-Soldering Station Heat-up Time
11:50 - Soldering Components in Board to De-Solder
12:46 - Can it be used as a Soldering Iron?
13:30 - De-Soldering components with Gun
21:00 - What is causing the Gun to Clog?
21:58 - A possible reason for the clogs
23:44 - Checking & cleaning the Greased Spring
25:15 - Conclusions
27:16 - Can we use a De-Soldering Gun as a solder iron?
28:09 - Closing Remarks
29:08 - Outro
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Thank you for making this video. I just bought one of these and you saved me a lot of time and heart ache setting it up. The operating manual is pretty worthless, and I probably would have broken this thing if I hadn't watched this video first. So far mine is working great. Mine came with a bunch of tips, but they all look like the same size. Haven't looked online yet to see if there are different sized tips available.
Thanks Tom for the comment, and am glad it helped. I love mine also, and it has come in handy a number of times for sure. 👍👍👍
I have this same station and love it. From what I understand the 380c setting is for better thermal recovery because in use the air passing through cools the tip so if you’re using it at 360c then in use the temp will drop below that and will contribute to clogging. The other thing I noticed is that you’re pulling the trigger as soon as you touch the solder and the solder is not up to temp and will clog the tip. I put it on there and when the solder melts I keep it on for about 1 second more and then pull the trigger, works great.
Wiggling the gun like you’re doing is necessary to get all the solder out and it also moves the component lead to “unstick” it from the sides. Finally the tip of the spring will always clog with solder because that’s where it stops. You can use a soldering iron to open the hole like you did or I use a hot air rework station to clean the spring, gloves help with this. That’s my 2 cents. Good video. Thumbs up.
Beautiful Laurence, a lot of useful tips for sure - much appreciated. I will have to try mine at 380c and see if I get better results. I am getting better also at leaving the tip on a little longer to make sure the solder is melted - However - you just have to be very very careful at leaving it on the joint a bit too long, as I have already lost a few pads spending too much time sucking the solder from a joint - just thought I would throw that into the mix ;)... Thanks Laurence for the help, clarification and tips - Thumbs up - 👍
this has been exactly my problem. Do you guys just replace the tips or use something thin to unclog while the iron is hot?
@@kevinmax101 No, you don't have to replace the tip, just clean it out after heating the tip. Just use a pin or anything that will fit in the tip, and move it in and out to clear the clog while applying suction at the same time.
I just got one of these a week ago. So far I agree with your observations. It takes 2 minutes to heat up, but after that it works very well. I touch the solder, wait acsecond for it to melt the solder, then pull the trigger... No clogs yet.
Considering the price, im very impressed, though i ob iously cant speak to the longevity of it. But Ive had a soldering/hot air station from the same company for 6 or 7 years and its been fine.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for your comment, and experience. I really like it also, and love it every time I get a component that I need out of a broken circuit board lol. It is great to hear that you have had other products from the same company that lasted 6-7 years - pretty impressive.
Happy New Year, and may this one, find us all satisfied....
Aoyue sells a long, skinny spiral drill bit, and matching "pin vise" handle, for clearing clogs from the tip and heating element; works better than the long wire with springy handle for clearing out clogs.
Thanks, will have to look that up. 👍
I just updated the description with the station I used in this video (the green one). Apparently this green station with green buttons is no longer made and also the only one that goes down to 350c. If you would like the desoldering station that goes down to 350c, then the green one with green buttons is the one you want. The newer stations that are black with blue buttons will only allow the temp to go down to 380c unfortunately, and if Yihua sees this - then please put the temp range back to where it was in the older versions. The 380c will just give increased possibility of ruining a boards solder pads, and mine at 360c does a great job, so no need to stop the user from going below 380c - just a thought...
Pues acabo de ver el video y me dió curiosidad la parte del silicón en el resorte, y sólo lubricando la parte angosta cerca de la cruz, y en efecto el estaño no se pegó al resorte, eso evita tener que usar un cautín para limpiar el resorte.🤔
Thank you for the comment. I actually am not using the silicone any more as it sticks too much to the spring, but it may be because of the what the Yihua spring is made of. I was told that the Hakko springs are much better for solder not sticking to them, and you can get them on Amazon. The Hakko springs are the same as the Yihua springs only made of different (and I guess better) materials. I haven't tried the Hakko springs yet, but I am going to be purchasing those to give it a try. I have to quit putting this off and go ahead and get the Hakko springs to try it out LOL...
I am including a link to the Hakko springs on Amazon (it is a pack of 10 springs), and if you get these, please let us know here how they work for you (if they are better than the Yihua spring).
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E9VCXG/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=A35X3GS59396Q6&psc=1
acabo de comprar una 948 2 en 1 y pensaba hacer lo de la grasa..............de la que me acabo de salvar.... gracias por compartir tu experiencia...
Gracias por el comentario, y tienes razón, engrasar el resorte no fue una buena idea.
...Thanks for the comment, and you're right, greasing the spring was not a good idea.
Thanks for stopping by. I hope you got something out of this, and I can't recommend now using grease in the spring as I do believe that it acts as a sealer preventing suction into the spring to draw solder from the de-solder tube/tip. Let us know if you yourself have tried this technique and how it worked or not at all...
After 20 years as an audio-repair bench tech, I can confirm that the solder-catching spring works poorly; a wad of medium-grade steel wool stuffed inside the tube works much better. Allows unrestricted airflow, catches solder and condensed rosin-flux fumes so the don't clog the filter, cools the air so that high heat doesn't pass through the pump, and replacing the solder-impregnated steel wool is faster, easier and less messy than cleaning the spring.
@@goodun2974 Thanks for the heads-up about the steel wool. I believe I have heard about that before but haven't tried it, but sounds like a great idea, and also great to hear from someone who has actually done that successfully. 👍
@@Outside-In. , I am 66 and recently retired, but my first electronics project that involved soldering was when I was about 10 or 11!
@@goodun2974 When I was 10, I was taking things apart to see what made it work, and never put anything back together. Now - I take things apart to fix them :)...
@@Outside-In. , I was about 10 or 11 when I replaced a selenium rectifier diode and filter capacitor in one of my dad's radios. I don't even remember how I knew how to do such a thing at that young age, But we subscribed to Popular Mechanics and similar magazines that had do-it-yourself articles, so perhaps I read up on what I needed to do. By the way, legend has it that Thomas Edison took a clock apart when he was 8 or 9 to try and figure out how it worked, and then he attempted to "lubricate it" with honey when he put it back together.
Speaking of soldering with this station -- there's now a soldering iron sold (Yihua 948A) that will work on this unit - has the right kind of plug (unplug the desoldering iron first, of course). The instructions on the main unit says that the temp range on the iron-only 948A as 200-480°C, and the desoldering unit range is 380-480°C. Wish the desoldering iron could go as low as 350°C.
I know what you mean. I love the fact that this one does go down to 350, but I believe the new ones don't go down that far, and that is unfortunate.
Its power transformer seems to have 3 output voltages 28V, 10V e 12.5V. I suppose 26V 75W (28V) for the gun, 10V for the controller board and 12.5V 10W for he pump. There is a clone sold in Brazil as Solden SE690, unfortunately with a black front panel and blue buttons. In their specs they note “adjustable temperature: “200 - 480ºC”. You wrote the black front panel does go down only to 380C. Am I correct? If not please correct me?
Thank you for the comment and question. The one that I have goes down to 350c. I do believe however that the one I have is the older version with green buttons, and the newer version has blue buttons and only goes down to 380c. If you want the one like I have that goes down to 350c, you will have to use the link in the description to eBay. The ones on Amazon are the newer versions with the blue buttons that only goes down to 380c. I hope this helps.
@@Outside-In. Thank you for your answer and information. For the price in my situation I would go for the Brazilian clone with black front panel and blue buttons. Could you please scan its manual and make it available?
@@excellbrasileletronica9633 Thanks for the question. I could only find one manual, and it seems to be the black with blue buttons model. Here is a link to the manual: bama.edebris.com/download/yihua/948/Yihua_948_2N1_solder_vacuum_desolder.pdf
Hope this helps.
@@Outside-In. This helped me a lot. Thank you very very much.
@@excellbrasileletronica9633 You are very very welcome my friend.
Hi, just saw this last video. No I was not messing around ;-). My station hardly ever clogs. Actually, the Aoyue desoldering stations have a tube of silicone grease included in the package. That's where I got the trick from. but of course be cautious with the amount. Or use a silicone spray. And there might be differences between the Yihua springs and the Hakko springs which I use. If it does not work for you, do not use it ;-). And be cautious with using additional flux when desoldering. It clogs up the filters. and the pump membranes.
Thanks Leo for taking the time to assure us you were not messing around with your suggestion. It is good to know that in some cases it actually works. You may be right, the type of material the spring is made out of would make a difference. I used a very small amount of silicone, but it made the solder stick like glue to the springs and clogged the gun several times. I usually don't need to to use flux when de-soldering, but use it only when needed and try to be sparing with it as to not add too much heat to the part of the board I am de-soldering. Thanks for all the advise, it helps greatly to hear from someone with more experience. If the grease would melt onto the springs, it would give a much better result but in my spring it acted more like a glue - weird. Perhaps the springs that you are using allow the grease to melt creating a nice slick surface while still allowing the suction to get between the spirals. I am just guessing about the grease stopping the suction from getting inside the spring, but that is what makes sense to me was happening. BUT - Leo, - needless to say - I am very glad to hear that you were not pulling a joke on me ;)... Glad to hear back from you Leo about this, and I will have to look into getting a Hakko spring to try, - and see if that is in-fact what is going on.
@@Outside-In. You are welcome! Some copper wool (what can be used to clean soldering irons) also works great. It can have more or less have the same function as the spring. Only you probably need to clean/change it more often. The springs are not available everywhere and can be relatively expensive.
@@roerdomp16e Thanks Leo, I probably will just stick LOL to using the spring. I did some de-soldering last night again to see what would happen without the grease, and I didn't have any problems. I guess you are right, it is probably the metal used to make the spring causing the grease thing to not work for mine.... BUT - the cleanup was sooooo much better this time. Right now I can't afford to get a more expensive spring as you are also right about Hakko being more expensive, so I will continue to do what I can with what I have ;). Thanks for all your help and communication - it is what helps to make this world a better place to tinker in...
@@Outside-In. The original Yihua or Aoyue are very hard to find and most of the time a lot more expensive than the Hakko springs. They are quite easy to obtain in the US.
@@roerdomp16e Thanks Leo - good to know. I will have to see if I can find the Hakko springs.
there is more than one type of 948 station?? can you tell me which one is better in long run?
It depends on your purposes. If you just need the vacuum pump, the one in this video is great, and according to most feedback I have read, it lasts as long as you need it too, but of course like anything else, a certain amount of care in handling will make it last much longer. If you are an occasional user like myself, then this should last a good number of years.
If you are looking for one of the models that also incorporates a soldering iron, I can't comment on those as I have not used one, but feedback about those are pretty much the same as for the 948 in this video.
Hope this helps, and thanks again for your comment and question - it is much appreciated.
search for W.E.P 948
@@sergei149 Thank you Sergei, and I searched the wep 948, and it looks just like the Yihua station. I am sure they are pretty much the same in build. I can only recommend what I have actually tested, so the Yihua I can recommend, but am sure the wep will be as good since they both look to be made in the same factory, and just a different name slapped on the case.
How did you get yours to 360? Can't get mine to go below 380! Very strange
Thank you holy moly for the question. I just checked mine and it goes down to 350 celcius. Are you using the 2 in 1 station or the single mode station like I have in this video?. If you have the 2 in 1, I am not sure on that one as I don't own the 2 in 1.
@@Outside-In. Yes, I have exactly the same model as you! I went for the basic unit as I didn't see the point of yet another iron on my bench! lol Try as I might, when I press the down arrow when I'm at 380C it just beeps...
@@holymoly2353 Ok, I have just looked at the 2 in 1 station, and it does not go below 380c. I said that to say this... If you have a newer version of this "single" station, than the one I am using, they may have changed the temp range to match the 2in1 station which goes no lower than 380c, - which would actually suck (no pun intended LOL) because I love to solder and desolder at 360c, and allot of other people love to work at 350c. I can only assume that you may have a newer version with a temp range change.
@@holymoly2353 I just found a newer "single" station and it is black with blue buttons, and in fact it is the newer version that goes no lower than 380c (according to the specs). When first looking at this I clicked on the green one which was my favorite color. I thought about it for a few days before making the decision to buy, and when I went bak to purchase it, all I could find was stations that were black with blue buttons. Being disappointed, I continued my search and it took me quite a while, but finally found a station that was green with green buttons, so I am assuming that the reason for the hard time to find the green one is because they are no longer made, and why the new black one has the updated temp range - to match the 2in1 station - which is unfortunate. I hope someone from Yihua sees these comments, and makes the decision to put it back to where it was, because mine desolders very well at 360c, so why the need to make it only go as low as 380c? 380c would be increasing the chances of ruining a boards solder pads... hmmmm....
2 years ago I bought the black version, I have two Hakko desoldering guns, one 808 and one FR301, I bought the Yihua for testing purpose only.
I will do a video showing some simple mods for better resusts.
I am using the Yihua for the last year every day without any problem.
I think this is a very good option if you are in budget.
If you have money go for the Hakko FR301, is a winner.
Best Regards.
Your right, if a person can afford it, the best option is to spend more to get better, but you are also right that the Yihua is great for those of us who don't have allot to spend. Thanks for the comment, and let us know when you have your video up, it would be a great watch, and I for one look forward to seeing it. Your simple mods would be interesting to see.
@@Outside-In.hi is me again, I forget to say all my desoldering guns clogged often using nozzles of 0.8mm and 1mm inclusive my Hakko's clogged, I use 1.2 mm or more without any major problem.
Next week I try to show you my simple mods, my Hakkos do not use any spring inside de chamber.