@@Redbeardflynn I'm looking forward to retirement where I can EQ all day long in peace and quiet. May even get lucky and get the wife (total non gamer) to play along with me.
I played with a lot of college students back in the day. Now I find many of them are coming back to the game--now that they've married, had kids, and those kids have gone off to college.
I went back and was surprised my char was still there. Scratched the nostalgia itch, but it will never be the same. There was something magical about the early years of EQ.
Have to agree with you here! Saying change the music and sound like he was hinting at would totally KILL that nostalgia. That load screen or when you entered Kithicor forest, for examples, really made you FEEL the game!
@@hemmydall that’s what I noticed, and missed about playing it. The feeling of community was pretty special win EQ. I don’t think that can be replicated. It was the time as well as the game.
A new engine, better graphics and better UI is needed if it wants to make a comeback ..Oh, and cashshops have nothing to do in an MMORPG, subscription based should be enough.
EQ Next was the perfect graphical adaptation to the original game. A colorful style that isn't realistic but stylized in a way that would have made it timeless instead of aging the way EQ2 has. I'm most upset that we never got to see EQ claim this art style for future projects. Landmark was absolutely reaching customers far beyond EQ's existing customer base and I'm still shocked that an investor didn't see the potential. Now we're left with EQ perpetually in maintenance mode and no one who wants to innovate on the dying IP. "EverQuest" needs a rebrand and "Landmark" was proof that under a different name in the same universe that focuses more on social elements (building / exploring) is a formula for success. The world doesn't need another quest/combat MMORPG and people need to stop thinking that will work for a new EQ. Questing and combat was always the least important/impressive aspect of EQ so why should a new game be designed around that? Keep combat basic and quests simple and build a new game around the one thing that WAS important to EQ. . . community.
Great comment and I agree with you absolutely on the most important thing to EQ being community. I really was surprised they pulled the plug on Landmark since it was already done but they only left it in release for a very short time period. I thought it could have pulled in a different type of playerbase to the IP. It was fun for what it was!
The reason why EQ felt so magical was because it was the first real way to connect with people and friends. Before we had to call someone on the phone, texting wasn’t a thing, cell phones weren’t a thing, social media didn’t exist. So for many of us, it was SO awesome just being able to live in a space with others and chat and do things together. Now a days, we are all connected 24/7 that it doesn’t feel special playing games together. This is why that first MMO feeling for many will NEVER happen again. I just feel bad for the younger generation that will never experience it because it’s now impossible to replicate. To answer the question… EQ 3 that is just an updated version of EQ would get me to come back. Maybe some quality of life changes but still keeping the overall feel of the original.
My wife and I bought founders packs for Everquest Next to help support the development. Because of how they handled that, and other things that happened with our Planetside subscriptions, we canceled our daybreak accounts and havent looked back since. I wont be giving them any more money. The people behind the magic of the original EQ that had a sincere love for the game they made are long gone. Brad McQuaid used to log in as one of the NPCs, Mayong Mistmoore, and do raids and community events. The community exploration and discovery they fostered has been replaced by daybreak exploring ways into our wallets.
EQ was the first MMO I ever played and I really enjoyed it. Over the years I have retried it now and then. I think the engine upgrade would be a solid improvement. Having said that, I generally stop playing again for gameplay issues not graphics. Most recently I started playing for a few weeks in summer 2022. I got 4 steps into a quest and then the NPC I needed didn't spawn and I couldn't trigger a spawn. I killed low level mobs while waiting for the NPC to spawn for like an hour a day for over a week and no spawn. So I ditch the quest and try a different one with more or less the same result. I spent most of my 2 weeks of playing time waiting for NPCs to spawn that probably stopped working years ago. I want to play a game not wait around so I stopped playing again.
What would make me play everquest in 2023 is an engine upgrade that disables SEQ/MQ2, mass bannings for people known to use them, and a level squish. I would pick up EQ1 live again if it didn't require third party apps to effectively catch up to anything approaching relevant content.
ive gone back many times but its just not the same! the community aspect is just not there at the same level it used to be. The community aspect is what made the game for me!
What I've found is its there in spots, specifically, in guilds. I had more community from 2016-2020 than I did from 2000-2004 and it was almost entirely because of my guild and being on a progression server.
A full graphics overhaul, a new story, and an updated combat system could do wonders for a new EQ. At the same time they could keep many of the progression and live servers they have and just call it Classic EQ, like Classic WoW has done. However, I dont think they will, ever, because Pantheon will come out and there will be an exodus of players coming from EQ that have been waiting and waiting and waiting for the successor to come out. If Pantheon flops, I think EQ will just continue on the way it has as long as it can.
I still go back and play on EQP99 from time to time. It's really the communication with other players and the reputation you build that is the most engaging part. What would make me go back again? The sense of adventure with other people. The cliche "sitting around the campfire in conversation" moments. The scale and danger is important. The long, sometimes stressful and intense, runs from place to place. I think EQ already does a great job making you feel really like a small pebble in a huge ocean. Unfortunately, the desire for adventure and communication in a large punishing world seems lost to most people. It's not really a question of "what will make you go back" so much as "when will you go back". That said, I'd love to see an Unreal5 facelift. Hopefully LanternEQ opens the door for that. :)
I have a guild mate who's proudly working on his version of eq3. It's one of the original owners and honestly I think a good solution will be to allow multiple game engines across multiple clients have some sort of seamless medium. I mean that would truly revolutionize as well as be able to handle reality
After days of begging, I finally got my little brother to try P99 last week. He played for 15 minutes and said he "I can't understand why anyone would play this piece of junk.". He logged off and said it was too terrible for him to ever try again. I think for most people there is nothing you can do to get them to play without gutting the mechanics we love.
Oof. I'm going to be bringing some new players into EQ to try it for the first time every when the new progression servers launch. I know at least one will probably have a similar experience but I've had them commit to a few hours.
Honestly, I didn't stop playing Everquest because I got bored with it. I left because I got TOO addicted and couldn't stop lol. I had to leave for my own wellbeing. A graphics overhaul could potentially be nice though if it kept the same feeling. The chrono monetization doesn't spur me into wanting to join again though, I miss the days when you just paid a monthly subscription.
Dude thanks so much for showing some of my recent work! This was a great video, really some good food for thought. I just posted a new video with some project updates over on my channel, inspired by some of the ideas you mentioned here, hope you’ll check it out!
I would play a new EQ. I for one was hopeful for EQ next. I played EQ since its launch only to be dragged away by Star Wars: Galaxies, EQ2 and Vanguard. I would love a survival sandbox MMO EQ. But truth be known, the only reason I don't play EQ now is because of a lack of solo gameplay. Give me the ability to solo EQ until "the" top level then I would come back. One way to do this would be cheaper mercenaries. I play EQ2 now just because the mercenaries cost so much less. Let's face it if you like to solo you need a mercenary in these older MMOs since they force grouping. Now don't get me wrong, grouping is the most enjoyable part of the game but most casual players just don't/won't/can't group. There is a reason MMOs that have easy solo gameplay in lower levels are the most popular.
It's real simple. New engine, new UI, etc., AI, voxels, VR support, etc, for what is essentially EQ 3. Design the game to eventually scale up to level 1000 or more. Rollout with an upper level cap of 130. Allow everyone in EQ 1 (and maybe 2) to migrate over their characters at the same level (currently capped at level 120 for EQ 1). And . . . it's go time!
@@VoteRedAmerica2024 Ten game years to the real year. Every game year, every raid zone scales up 1 level (to include loot). Every six months in real life, the level cap is raised 5 levels. Had they done it that way, a raiding guild today would constantly have nearly a thousand raid targets at all times, instead of the nine per week that it works out to now.
There is an MMO being developed (with free, open weekend tests periodically) called EverCraft Online. It is EQ gameplay in a voxel engine (no Minecraft mechanics). Check it out!
EQN went with cartoonish looking characters, kind of like WOW. That was a turn off for many EQ players. WOW, and other MMOs stole so much from EQ, and EQ3 would have to go back to the basics of EQ. No map, death hurts, and no quest helpers except for fellow players. I played EQ until EQ2 came out, then I played EQ2 for about 10 years and it started heading in the wrong direction, it became a quick run to max level then gank all us PVE players none stop.
I went to p99 in like 2010. I thought I would play that until a new mmo of EQ's quality to come out, or a proper EQ sequel. Sadly, here I am 12 years later still stuck on p99. its great, but its getting old now. Lol
Everquest remaster. Change ui and animations. But leave spells alone. If I could play an EQ necromancer with Harry Potter graphics I’d just give daybreak my credit card. Do not ever change the skeleton laugh and don’t make it cartoony like next did
Everquest is great but that puzzle has been hyper solved. If they released the same game with secret areas, ultra rare world spawns and bosses, hidden quests, mysterious spells, weapons and secret mechanics (for exple: monk attack combos) rare and ultra rare attack and spell animations, rare and ultra rare sound bites from mobs and toons, rare and ultra rare quest spawns, rare and ultra rare mob and boss neutral faction spawns that can be interacted with for clues about quests or how to get extremely difficult acquired items. Abilities of classes that are required for quest solving (exple: ranger - actually sees foot prints when tracking or a necro that can harvest a specific organ) I'm just going to stop here. My point is, make the game unsolvable and impossible to accomplish most things without cooperation.
A lot of what you're saying is why I'm excited for Pantheon but I'm also wary that it might not be something anyone can pull off well anymore. Time will tell! Also necros harvesting a specific organ sounds so metal, I love it. One of my favorite skills in EQ was the raise dead AA for necros that would raise a weak version of whatever you had just killed. So many raids got derailed with giant versions of dragons or gods coming back to life and scaring everyone.
When I tried to get a friend into the game, the instant issue was the ancient UI. A mild facelift and far more ... improved... UI would likely help breathe more life into this game. That and maaaaaaaaybe more transparency into how damage is calculated around things like weapons/spells/etc.
It’s more then just graphics, EQ back in the day didn’t hold you hand and was hard to learn and esp hard if you were solo. People don’t want that now. They want to get to max level as fast as possible and be able to do end game right away.
Somewhere in the early 2000's it feels like MMOs went from a journey to a race. I've tried to think how to solve that and make them a journey again but without a major playerbase mentality shift I'm not sure how.
My issues with a revamp of EQ is that part of what I believe made EQ never actually existed. Adventure... We started playing but because it was the first real MMO we thought, "wow, how far does this go!" Later we learn it's just zones, with camps, and raids and blah blah blah... What made EQ great for people IMO was that as I said above, we didn't know better mixed with the more realistic character models. The game was not over the top, cartoony and everything exploding or on fire. It felt more like a harsh fantasy world, but again... it was an illusion built on our not knowing any better. Once we learned the stage we played it min/max... and that was the end. Now it's all about raiding, grinding and blah blah blah. The combat was/is horrible... So, EQ can't be re-made well, it will be like any other mmo, a huge people rushing in, starting guilds, grinding up ASAP and raiding... just like all the time locked servers. From there we all know you just rinse and repeat expansion after expansion. It's a waste of time and boring.
Very well stated. Ashes of Creation and Pantheon are trying to solve this problem each in their own unique way. If they are successful, you will see an MMORPG future where virtual worlds are nonlinear and unpredictable. It would be truly revolutionary.
Never played EQ1. Played EQ2 from launch day for about 10 years though. Really miss it. Tried WoW a few times but it's simply not nearly as good as EQ2. Nothing would make me want to play WoW or EQ1, but... EQ 2in URE 5.1 would be amazing.
If they made a server where they released the first 3 expansions and made a new expansion for it id be back in a heartbeat. Bring it back to the old school days like it's P1999 but new unknown content and i'm sold.
Played EQ from 2000 to 2009ish off and on. IMO, EQ went to shit when Sony started WoWifying it. When WoW launched EQ population took a decent size hit. What did Sony do? Start punishing everyone that stuck around by making EQ more like WoW. If I wanted fast travel and little to no death penalty I would have went to that trash game when it launched. Project1999 was fun for a while but when you have 1000+ hardcore sweaty nerds that know everything about the game and no instancing it is brutal. I am not sitting on a dragon spawn for 18+ hours for a chance at my guild getting loot. I am really hoping Pantheon launches sometime before I die or most of the playerbase has given up or moved on. I am not giving them a dime until I see beta but I hope they succeed. I think MMOs best hope is Ashes of Creation. Not a fan of PvP, but it looks like they intend on making it punishing enough to stop griefers. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I was very unhappy to learn that EQ Next had died and feel for anyone who paid for Landmark.
I would love to see the Eq ip reinvented. Something with all the class race combos and the and base world cities. With random generation dungeons and zones like No Mans Sky. Multi-player obviously. Good and Evil races meet in city hubs venture forth in groups to random zones with possible meetings of evil races in same zones for unexpected pvp. Maybe something like ESO style combat fast paced but much more spells and abilities.
Everquest with Elder Scrolls Online graphics would be great. I love ESO but they keep releasing a new set and rebalancing the skills every 1-3 months. At least WoW leaves stuff alone for 4-40 months at a time.
The talk of a new project using the EQ IP, has me concerned they're going to go the Mobile game route or something shady like that. Too many modern game companies are chasing easy money and dont want to do the hard work to produce the labors of love that EQ, UO, DAOC, and Original WoW were at the time.
If it wasn't for EQ there would be no WOW. I would go back if they did a 3 with a new engine for sure. But Daybreak killed the game as far as I'm concerned. Bring back the grand daddy soneone please :-)
Lets See UI on the screen you are showing had over 20 separate windows up. So UI graphics are sad servers stink and are to this day not optimal especially on a new TLP or expansion. Oh and the monetization $$$$ need I say more. Well? Okay have fun getting your xp. potions so you can power level and skip through all the content /nostalgia you can to get to end game and raiding. It is a nice dream but dream it is or is that just me. ✌
Just transport the old EQ into a new engine. EQ with todays Black Desert charater quality and world quality would bring me back without a doubt. Dont really change much, not even the quests, just port it over entirely.
Remake of the original game with Elden ring like graphics and mechanics. so many times playing ER i would think imagine this being EQ and you had to clear all these places in a group or raid instead of just running past everything. start with the original 3 expansions. would love a modern KD or ToV raid.
It is almost comical how people think EQ needs something. That footage of the male high elf is literally painful to see, and in no way an improvement upon the game. The game has been doing successful progression and also launching expansions regularly.
Giving older expansion raids and dungeon content have a soloable mode because of how empty and barren of players the game is. I know there are TLPs but people like me who don't have time much to commit to guilds anymore sometimes long to see stuff we never could see. But this is never gonna happen anyway. The game is a real museum of the old era at this point imo.
Because the game is old, I feel like everything's been done and discovered. I don't know if it's new player friendly. I've never played it, so these are just my thoughts on that. I have my eye on Pantheon though!
It is not log onj to the role playing server and see how much time you spend with any one. Then try getting out of the new player area and find your self alone in many cases the only person in many low level zones.
Amazing Content! I play single player games, but i always come back to everquest. Currently on thornblade server and love it due to knowing good people and a friendly server!
I went back 2 yrs ago and been loving it since. Its not the old 1999 game, its evolved and in many ways gotten better. The community aspect is still there, its just a matter of finding and joining an active guild. I was surprised at how vibrant the game still is after 23 yrs and its still just as addicting. The base is older now mostly 40 to 70 age range but with merc and improvements to the game its easily played solo if one chooses. New xpansions being dropped yearly, its still a vibrant fun game and im so glad after 8 yrs away i dipped my toes back in. I was also surprised at the amount of women playing, that was a shocker to me. You can play for free and theres not a huge difference between free and paid accounts depending on what you want out of the game. Im having a ball again playing and encourage any old players to return and give it a try, your toons are sitting there still waiting for you.
You will find that in P99. I like P99 but also hated it. Waiting for hours for a group can be frustrating. I like to box on Agnarr server. Im my own team
At minimum, updating the UI. Played EQ back in the day, and recently tried to go back but the interface was too painful. Not sure why they haven't modernized in the last 20 years. Tons of fans have tacked the problem, no reason for Sony, and later Daybreak, not to recognize and fix the issue.
They've at least been working on the UI engine on the back end for I think it's over a year now? Some windows have been moved over. I was personally hoping they'd be a bit faster on it: th-cam.com/video/9YmE_n_iDmY/w-d-xo.html
Pantheon looks like absolute dog shit. No faith in that one. They could just remaster that first 3 or 4 expansions with unreal 5 and it'd be good enough. Pantheon has 0 nostalgia
Really A look at the Past and a Beginning to the Future. I really think EQ3 should be EverQuest. Think Pantheon and you get pretty much what I mean. The issue with EQN is yes it's chasing World of Warcraft, Minecraft & Other Games but really is that EverQuest sorry to say but No and that is where it Failed the Hardest. But to say EQ is simple a MMO is also going to Far where in the Past it was a 3D fantasy real-time strategy game among other things. Even an RPG like Dragon Age place in Norrath would be in the EverQuest Brand. Like it or Not they were Doing a lot with EQ in the early 2000 to 2004 Like said Card Games, 3D fantasy real-time strategy game & a Console Game (PS2 EQOA) a long side Books base on EverQuest.
I was sad when they kind of went away from expanding the eq brand. I actually liked games like champions of norrath. I wanted to like lords of everquest, too.
Get rid of Krono. I hate what Krono has done to progression servers and their economy. I'd come back if I had a group of friends to play with. Landmark was $300 for me. $100 editions x3. *sigh* I'd still be excited for a new EverQuest game. Hell, I'd take a liscenced single-player game with fully fleshed out companions and optional co-op ala BG3 at this point. I just miss Norrath.
In EQ, YOU were the story line. You were crafting your own adventure. Now a days, games like WoW are one long Quest Line where you play out someone else's story lines. I'd come right back to EQ if they overhauled the graphics and made the interactions feel more natural. No leveling through questing. Reward players for killing harder MOBS. That will incentivize grouping. If you get rid of the leveling through questing, then people will stick around for more then 5 minutes and it will be worth grouping. An extra 25% experience buff while grouped is pointless if it takes longer to form the group then it does to do the 5 quests you have for the area and then you are leaving. What sort of story do you have to tell about your fights? WoW makes then entire leveling process just a sprint across the entire continent to do as many quests as you can. That's how WoW dungeons have become now too, a sprint. Why? because it's not worth playing the game unless you get to max level with max gear. Then it gets hard, and only because there are special boss game mechanics. What's the point. EQ needs to come back, as classic. Where the game is getting to max level. leveling meant you could progress and travel, more and further, into unknown lands. Take on bigger risks. Fight harder MOBS that do more dmg, have more HP, have better gear drops, better abilities, gave substantially more experience, which is exactly what made grouping and making friends in EQ worth it. How else can you tell a story about grouping to fight lego's in CB and someone in the next group over accidentally pulled D'vinn and he wiped then entire zone. This coming from someone who played EQ and sucked at it. I deleveled so many times. But I loved it.
Maybe something for casters to wear other than a Robe ?! Actual drops in game with stats..... Not game shop. Ok Seriously the Robes have to go.... Alright The Next Everquest ... I think should be ground breaking . Not in the EQ Next kind of way. But in the next step kind of way ... Lets talk about the Tolkien Universe for a second. It had all different races and empires within it.. So instead of a World designed with static beginning cities , maybe they evolve in an ( Ashes ) sort of way with the exception that : Goblins ,Orc's, Giants, Dragons and all dark races Cities are evolving too. A Big contribution to get away from zones dying... A touch of (Shadow of Mordor) game with the Roaming ( more challenging ) mobs having a taunt list for calling you out if they killed you already ( short list of like last 10 people that updates and drops off as it goes )...Silly Ranger trying to solo...hehe...... Faction too.... for death being in the wrong place at the wrong time ( just like EQ ). Also create an Ai group for the 3 giant trolls that can move around in the world making camps/caves of their own. ( maybe they are a random raid encounter) . PVP The world after all is a dangerous place.....Maybe in an ( Ashes ) sort of way or just in certain open areas of zones, and in dark cities...Not only people but NPC's in the Cities going for more power again like ( Shadow of Mordor ).. Trophies like a dragons head could also be used ( Yoda style on Dagoba ) as your house or guild hall...Not just earthly structures... Clothing should be racial and have 100 different outfits to mix and match ( all as armor drops ) [ YES You can hire actual clothing designers not just people living in their moms basements ] to design these things...I believe all that and more can be accomplished.... Just stay away from the facial recognition player to character stuff..... Oh and NONE of that ( Final Fantasy stuff ) taking 15 mins for a spell or combat combo ... lol..... With the world being Live each trying to develop their own cities You wont find static mobs in the world just waiting for combat interaction, they will be doing something, until provoked or line of sight faction provoked, Or maybe you just look good to eat......It has been a long time since I have thought about such things , pretty sure theres something I didnt touch on but that is a good start.
If we're talking a new EQ then something along the lines of EQ B4. EQ1 with the classes, gameplay and combat but all new graphics, discoveries and world. That's what people complain about right = They've done it, but don't like EQ2. So what would the world look like thousands of years in the past ? EQ2 is a futuristic setting right ? The key here is new stuff but old EQ. For example storylines/questing for HEI could be the foundation of Felwithe. You might be able to tie in some EQ Landmark. How did Kelethin get started ? Maybe make trolls not have a city but spawn around the spamp. Dynamic not static storylines. The race wars should definitely be part. And what's with all those empty cities later expansions ? Make players have the choice of starting there. Expand the tradeskills to mean something. There's a lot of people who don't RAID and tradeskills could be end game for them. One of the big issues of tradeskills is so much of it isn't worth doing. So make end game stuff equal to RAID stuff. All the tradeskills improvements need to be a big time sink. For example spellcraft. People who sink more plat/time into their Landmark research labs should be rewarded with better spells. Spells should never drop from a random mob. This killed the market. Questing for special spells was the right way to go as well. Like the 1st pal hot. Make the gods you worship mean something. For example Bertoxxulous priests shouldn't be able to heal anything but disease. He's the god of disease. On the flip side no one should have better disease than them. There's all kinds of things that could be done. I'm happy to share. The main theme of why people are not playing is they've have done it before Happy Holidays !
I really like your idea about making the diety you worship matter. I remember the way it seemed to matter most was always something like how it impacted your illusions as a bard or exchanters. Making it more important ties the lore together better. I think eq2 made the choices important for temporary buffs but they were very temporary when I played and you had to sacrifice items.
I have over 11,000 hours on this game lol. My account was made in 2001. Been playing off and on to this very day. Enchanter/cleric two box, or Enchanter/shaman, Monk/shaman.
I still play EQ2. I played EQ for many years, but some of the tech, mechanics and graphics are just too dated for my taste these days. I am still waiting for EQ3 (whatever it may be called). I just hope it does the IP justice and they don't churn out some PvP battle royale and call it EverQuest. That would be the end of the IP.
I've tried so many times to go back to EQ2. I played it for I think 4 or 5 years straight and loved it but everytime I come back the giant numbers and sheer numbers of abilities send me away. I need to try a TLE one of these days.
I have played nonstop since 2000. Not sure how much longer I will honestly though. I have tried a few other MMOs, and none of them really got me like EQ.
Red Teams PVP in TL Velious ! It wouldn't take much $$$. Years ago the numbers were the same as the other servers. Teams is completely different then individual. I and others spent years posting on the boards what a different server we want instead of the cookie cutter we get every year
YES !!! For crying out loud it needs to look better. Great game. But you need her to look good if she wants a date !!!! Hence more people to play and even give it a go. I'd jump back in if it at least looked better.
The updates you are talking about are EverQuest 2. The biggest issue I had with EQ was spending hours trying to fund a group, then having to leave not long after I finally did because of real life.
You sound lazy, mr Looney. A lifetime is roughly 700 000 hours, if u cant dedicate a few of those to finding a group, i dont know what u are doing with ur life
Been playing TLPs last 2 years. Going to Live. Enjoying the QoL changes in the later eras. Raid currency is a game changer. I wish they would revamp the whole autogrant AA system though. Grinding AAs in early era TLPs gets tiresome. The level 70 stretch is terrible. Once Rain of Fear hits the tasks that give AA and XP at the same time make a huge difference
I played through pretty much the entire lifespan of phinigel and honestly when heroic adventures hit I loved it. Was sad they kind of discontinued them.
Unfortunately, it's not. It can be overwhelming to new players but if you can find a new player friendly guild on a live server or on a progression server when they launch the community can be great in helping you learn. The game itself starts out relatively simple, at least. You won't be overloaded with systems, the main issue is the lack of guidance. There's a tutorial on live, servers, though. It's just not very good.
I thought Everquest 2 did a good job of getting you to understand the world around you a bit better than Everquest did. So more accessible lore and story would be great in EQ.
Oh hi! I started a new account in Everquest this week, created a character and started playing. I didn't last long however, but am now playing Everquest 2 instead. As an old Wow-head since 2005, I can bring maybe some insight. 1. My biggest gripe was not with graphics. In fact, I like it! Old 3D stuff has charm, and isn't very taxing on my not-great laptop. Also, many successful games today are not the most graphically insane ones, but often the ones that are accessible by a large amount of people, who can tweak their experience to fit their specs. 2. The reason I chose EQ2 over EQ was controls. EQ controls, in my mind, are clunky, and feel very dated. I know they've probably been updated since the release in 1999, but they feel unintuitive. EQ2 feels way closer to a more "modern" MMO.
EQ2 is definitely more akin to the types of MMOs that were common from 2004-2014ish with a few exceptions like GW2. EQ2 and WoW are kind of to me like the 3rd generation of MMOs so that makes sense.
@@Redbeardflynn I bet! EQ2 and WoW being so similar probably comes from being released within like 2 months of each other so that makes sense. Really wish something more would be done with the EQ IP though. It is really intriguing as a whole (and as someone thats level 14 in EQ2 and still has no idea what the fuck is going on)
Love your videos Redbeard, but step back as I’m gonna speak blasphemy, prepare yourself .. EverQuest Mobile! No, not a playable EQ1 on phone, that would probably be much more difficult than a new game designed specifically for mobile. If you’ve made it this far shame on you and me - but something both new (graphics and sound) and old (familiar zones and character / classes). A progression style game where you progress (battle) through the original EQ- yes, your character(s) will need to battle Dorn B’Dynn to advance through the Desert of Ro. Why a game like this could work (turn away this will be bad) : some monetization! A game must be profitable to survive. I realize this will come off as an abomination of EQ to many lovers of original, but if done correctly this could be something fresh and fun for all. For the die hards, yes, original EQ would still be there. I myself am currently waiting for the next round of progression servers.😺
I'm going to take your blasphemy one step further....everquest playable on the steam deck. Something with controls that would be a bit more intuitive and easier to cycle through. Love the blasphemy! Thank you for the comment. And he'll yeah I'd play it.
Playing on p99 right now. Just medding while I check my email get some water and look at youtube. Why do I play... Because I still enjoy the game and community at large. Not a fan of the raid culture on p99 but raiding is not my thing so... whatever. I just enjoy the adventure and have fun. If I am not having fun that day I won't play heck until 10pm tonight I was on a 2 week break. It's now 1am...
I'm glad you've been enjoying p99! The slower pace is something I missed on progression servers at times because it always felt like a race and eventually even camping goes away and it's all about working through quest lines or dungeons
@@Redbeardflynn yah not my cup of tea. I enjoy the journey, rushing that just kills my enjoyment of things and it is what burnt me out back in the day. By the time pop came out I was basically exhausted between the pace of life school/work, adventuring and raiding. Something had to give and I quit EQ after a blow out with my guild over raiding. The guild went from casual to raiding and I was one of the people that had pushed for us to get more serious. Then a few months later life came knocking. I ended up going back to table top games, hobby time and painting. I only came back to playing EQ in October. Has on it as warm up because i am on the pantheon support at a beta access level when that happens.
Im very new too EQ I really love the graphics and environment and I saw the combat how fast and nice it looks as they level higher. However I struggle with the UI, for example was trying to do that smithing quest and couldn't get all the required bars kept failing and the AI that gave me quest wouldn't give me more mats. Also can never tell where the heck too go or what to do. A problem my friend and me had was we always accidentally clicked our character when we were trying to do combat. I'm not too great at explaining but yeah everquest 2 played alot smoother for me but no1 wanted too play it with me unfortunately. Alot of fetch quests. ( just my honest experience, I'm a noob with no experienced friends too play this with all my friends couldn't stand it sadly, we come from old school runescape)
Everquest 1 is due for a UI revamp and they're setting the groundwork for it this year. The UI itself won't be changing yet but they're changing the back end for future changes, basically updating it. Funny you mention Runescape because I actually plan to try that game in the future. I've never played. A few quick tips that I find helpful for new EQ players. - make sure to set a keyboard button to select targets. It'll be easier than clicking with a mouse. I personally use tab but you'll need to move it off of it's current setting which cycles back to you. Later games do this by default but not EQ. - Questing until much much much later in Everquest (talking 15+ expansions in) is largely optional despite its name. The best experience is usually killing monsters.
@@Redbeardflynn wow thank you bro ! That's really exciting and I'm tempted too reinstall and give it another whirl I've spent alot of time watching you and others play it and really enjoy it, I remember being six years old and seeing the artwork and screen shots in magazines absolutely amazed I wanted too play it so badly. If you do start on old school runescape I'd be glad too help you in anyway possible, gear, quests etc. One of the things for me in video games I get worried if I don't quest I'll miss out on lore and new areas, I love anything with vampires or ghouls, I have a bit of lore knowledge of EQ because my favorite ps2 games were the champions of norrath hack n slashes on ps2
I loved EQ1, and still play eq2 with my 3 kids. I would play a new EQ game, but I don’t want a reskin of the old games. I want an all new game that stays true to the original concepts and lore. EQ 1 & 2 are awesome, but too many expansions in. Restart a all new game.
That's something many of us have been looking for for a very long time! Ember's Adrift just released and there's a vocal group of players that are really enjoying it's classic feel. Pantheon is going to have a lot of similarities with EQ but it's still quite a ways off. As for other current games like EQ? There aren't any that really come to mind that would match the community aspect and gameplay aspects. But if you want to divert a little bit the usual suspects of WoW (WoW Classic), FFXIV, ESO, and GW2 are all solid MMOs. Less obvious would be emulators for games like Vanguard, Warhammer Online, and SWG.
I'm a big fan of a lot of the expansions after PoP but I know there's a large portion who like either through Velious like on P99 or stopping at PoP (as seen by population drops on progression servers)
"What would it take for you to return to Everquest" - Free childcare.
This comment is gold
Felt that , can usually get 3 kills in b 4 the kids need me lol
@@Redbeardflynn I'm looking forward to retirement where I can EQ all day long in peace and quiet. May even get lucky and get the wife (total non gamer) to play along with me.
Best answer 😂
I played with a lot of college students back in the day. Now I find many of them are coming back to the game--now that they've married, had kids, and those kids have gone off to college.
I went back and was surprised my char was still there. Scratched the nostalgia itch, but it will never be the same. There was something magical about the early years of EQ.
Have to agree with you here! Saying change the music and sound like he was hinting at would totally KILL that nostalgia. That load screen or when you entered Kithicor forest, for examples, really made you FEEL the game!
If they relaunched the original game with slight tweaks and in the unreal engine I would come back and play. The last time I played was 2004.
There is still some magic there at the start of a new Time Locked Progression server, but after a couple months the elitism gets overbearing.
@@hemmydall that’s what I noticed, and missed about playing it. The feeling of community was pretty special win EQ. I don’t think that can be replicated. It was the time as well as the game.
P1999, my friend. Can't get enough of it and it's been two months now. Try it out.
It needs to return to logical mechanics with a steep learning curve like classic EQ. Don't really care for the flashy eye candy if it feels hollow
A new engine, better graphics and better UI is needed if it wants to make a comeback ..Oh, and cashshops have nothing to do in an MMORPG, subscription based should be enough.
EQ Next was the perfect graphical adaptation to the original game. A colorful style that isn't realistic but stylized in a way that would have made it timeless instead of aging the way EQ2 has. I'm most upset that we never got to see EQ claim this art style for future projects. Landmark was absolutely reaching customers far beyond EQ's existing customer base and I'm still shocked that an investor didn't see the potential. Now we're left with EQ perpetually in maintenance mode and no one who wants to innovate on the dying IP.
"EverQuest" needs a rebrand and "Landmark" was proof that under a different name in the same universe that focuses more on social elements (building / exploring) is a formula for success. The world doesn't need another quest/combat MMORPG and people need to stop thinking that will work for a new EQ. Questing and combat was always the least important/impressive aspect of EQ so why should a new game be designed around that? Keep combat basic and quests simple and build a new game around the one thing that WAS important to EQ. . . community.
Great comment and I agree with you absolutely on the most important thing to EQ being community.
I really was surprised they pulled the plug on Landmark since it was already done but they only left it in release for a very short time period. I thought it could have pulled in a different type of playerbase to the IP. It was fun for what it was!
Pantheon
@@Redbeardflynn Yeah, talk about a waste pulling the plug on it. Not sure what they were thinking with that decision.
The reason why EQ felt so magical was because it was the first real way to connect with people and friends. Before we had to call someone on the phone, texting wasn’t a thing, cell phones weren’t a thing, social media didn’t exist. So for many of us, it was SO awesome just being able to live in a space with others and chat and do things together. Now a days, we are all connected 24/7 that it doesn’t feel special playing games together. This is why that first MMO feeling for many will NEVER happen again. I just feel bad for the younger generation that will never experience it because it’s now impossible to replicate.
To answer the question… EQ 3 that is just an updated version of EQ would get me to come back. Maybe some quality of life changes but still keeping the overall feel of the original.
This, 100%.
Yes when 9/11 hit it was amazing to see a global reaction in game.
My wife and I bought founders packs for Everquest Next to help support the development. Because of how they handled that, and other things that happened with our Planetside subscriptions, we canceled our daybreak accounts and havent looked back since. I wont be giving them any more money. The people behind the magic of the original EQ that had a sincere love for the game they made are long gone. Brad McQuaid used to log in as one of the NPCs, Mayong Mistmoore, and do raids and community events. The community exploration and discovery they fostered has been replaced by daybreak exploring ways into our wallets.
EQ was the first MMO I ever played and I really enjoyed it. Over the years I have retried it now and then. I think the engine upgrade would be a solid improvement. Having said that, I generally stop playing again for gameplay issues not graphics. Most recently I started playing for a few weeks in summer 2022. I got 4 steps into a quest and then the NPC I needed didn't spawn and I couldn't trigger a spawn. I killed low level mobs while waiting for the NPC to spawn for like an hour a day for over a week and no spawn. So I ditch the quest and try a different one with more or less the same result. I spent most of my 2 weeks of playing time waiting for NPCs to spawn that probably stopped working years ago. I want to play a game not wait around so I stopped playing again.
i would love to play eq again with an upgraded ui/engine/graphics
theres nothing wrong with what they have now, go back and give it a try
What would make me play everquest in 2023 is an engine upgrade that disables SEQ/MQ2, mass bannings for people known to use them, and a level squish. I would pick up EQ1 live again if it didn't require third party apps to effectively catch up to anything approaching relevant content.
ive gone back many times but its just not the same! the community aspect is just not there at the same level it used to be. The community aspect is what made the game for me!
What I've found is its there in spots, specifically, in guilds. I had more community from 2016-2020 than I did from 2000-2004 and it was almost entirely because of my guild and being on a progression server.
@@Redbeardflynn see the progression servers were something I did love that they added! For both EQ1 and EQ2!
yeah, got to get in an active guild, the community is still there, its just shrunken.
A full graphics overhaul, a new story, and an updated combat system could do wonders for a new EQ. At the same time they could keep many of the progression and live servers they have and just call it Classic EQ, like Classic WoW has done. However, I dont think they will, ever, because Pantheon will come out and there will be an exodus of players coming from EQ that have been waiting and waiting and waiting for the successor to come out. If Pantheon flops, I think EQ will just continue on the way it has as long as it can.
There is nothing wrong with the combat system.
8:03 they should keep EQ Next graphics/assist and Remaster EQ1.. i never played EQ, but i would try it , if it looked and played as in the trailer ..
I still go back and play on EQP99 from time to time. It's really the communication with other players and the reputation you build that is the most engaging part. What would make me go back again? The sense of adventure with other people. The cliche "sitting around the campfire in conversation" moments. The scale and danger is important. The long, sometimes stressful and intense, runs from place to place. I think EQ already does a great job making you feel really like a small pebble in a huge ocean. Unfortunately, the desire for adventure and communication in a large punishing world seems lost to most people. It's not really a question of "what will make you go back" so much as "when will you go back". That said, I'd love to see an Unreal5 facelift. Hopefully LanternEQ opens the door for that. :)
I have a guild mate who's proudly working on his version of eq3. It's one of the original owners and honestly I think a good solution will be to allow multiple game engines across multiple clients have some sort of seamless medium. I mean that would truly revolutionize as well as be able to handle reality
After days of begging, I finally got my little brother to try P99 last week. He played for 15 minutes and said he "I can't understand why anyone would play this piece of junk.". He logged off and said it was too terrible for him to ever try again.
I think for most people there is nothing you can do to get them to play without gutting the mechanics we love.
Oof. I'm going to be bringing some new players into EQ to try it for the first time every when the new progression servers launch. I know at least one will probably have a similar experience but I've had them commit to a few hours.
Honestly, I didn't stop playing Everquest because I got bored with it. I left because I got TOO addicted and couldn't stop lol. I had to leave for my own wellbeing. A graphics overhaul could potentially be nice though if it kept the same feeling.
The chrono monetization doesn't spur me into wanting to join again though, I miss the days when you just paid a monthly subscription.
I know I would come back and try out EQ3. It would have to be NOT be F2P and just pure sub based.
Dude thanks so much for showing some of my recent work! This was a great video, really some good food for thought. I just posted a new video with some project updates over on my channel, inspired by some of the ideas you mentioned here, hope you’ll check it out!
I would play a new EQ. I for one was hopeful for EQ next. I played EQ since its launch only to be dragged away by Star Wars: Galaxies, EQ2 and Vanguard. I would love a survival sandbox MMO EQ.
But truth be known, the only reason I don't play EQ now is because of a lack of solo gameplay. Give me the ability to solo EQ until "the" top level then I would come back. One way to do this would be cheaper mercenaries. I play EQ2 now just because the mercenaries cost so much less. Let's face it if you like to solo you need a mercenary in these older MMOs since they force grouping. Now don't get me wrong, grouping is the most enjoyable part of the game but most casual players just don't/won't/can't group. There is a reason MMOs that have easy solo gameplay in lower levels are the most popular.
It's real simple. New engine, new UI, etc., AI, voxels, VR support, etc, for what is essentially EQ 3. Design the game to eventually scale up to level 1000 or more. Rollout with an upper level cap of 130. Allow everyone in EQ 1 (and maybe 2) to migrate over their characters at the same level (currently capped at level 120 for EQ 1). And . . . it's go time!
@@VoteRedAmerica2024 Ten game years to the real year. Every game year, every raid zone scales up 1 level (to include loot). Every six months in real life, the level cap is raised 5 levels.
Had they done it that way, a raiding guild today would constantly have nearly a thousand raid targets at all times, instead of the nine per week that it works out to now.
There is an MMO being developed (with free, open weekend tests periodically) called EverCraft Online. It is EQ gameplay in a voxel engine (no Minecraft mechanics). Check it out!
I recently picked up eq for the first time last week with p99. Really liking it so far.
EQN went with cartoonish looking characters, kind of like WOW. That was a turn off for many EQ players. WOW, and other MMOs stole so much from EQ, and EQ3 would have to go back to the basics of EQ. No map, death hurts, and no quest helpers except for fellow players. I played EQ until EQ2 came out, then I played EQ2 for about 10 years and it started heading in the wrong direction, it became a quick run to max level then gank all us PVE players none stop.
I went to p99 in like 2010. I thought I would play that until a new mmo of EQ's quality to come out, or a proper EQ sequel. Sadly, here I am 12 years later still stuck on p99. its great, but its getting old now. Lol
Everquest remaster. Change ui and animations. But leave spells alone. If I could play an EQ necromancer with Harry Potter graphics I’d just give daybreak my credit card. Do not ever change the skeleton laugh and don’t make it cartoony like next did
The skeleton laugh and the ding are must haves
Everquest is great but that puzzle has been hyper solved. If they released the same game with secret areas, ultra rare world spawns and bosses, hidden quests, mysterious spells, weapons and secret mechanics (for exple: monk attack combos) rare and ultra rare attack and spell animations, rare and ultra rare sound bites from mobs and toons, rare and ultra rare quest spawns, rare and ultra rare mob and boss neutral faction spawns that can be interacted with for clues about quests or how to get extremely difficult acquired items. Abilities of classes that are required for quest solving (exple: ranger - actually sees foot prints when tracking or a necro that can harvest a specific organ) I'm just going to stop here. My point is, make the game unsolvable and impossible to accomplish most things without cooperation.
A lot of what you're saying is why I'm excited for Pantheon but I'm also wary that it might not be something anyone can pull off well anymore. Time will tell!
Also necros harvesting a specific organ sounds so metal, I love it. One of my favorite skills in EQ was the raise dead AA for necros that would raise a weak version of whatever you had just killed. So many raids got derailed with giant versions of dragons or gods coming back to life and scaring everyone.
When I tried to get a friend into the game, the instant issue was the ancient UI. A mild facelift and far more ... improved... UI would likely help breathe more life into this game. That and maaaaaaaaybe more transparency into how damage is calculated around things like weapons/spells/etc.
Yes I would play an EQ 3 if it were done even decently.
It’s more then just graphics, EQ back in the day didn’t hold you hand and was hard to learn and esp hard if you were solo. People don’t want that now. They want to get to max level as fast as possible and be able to do end game right away.
Somewhere in the early 2000's it feels like MMOs went from a journey to a race. I've tried to think how to solve that and make them a journey again but without a major playerbase mentality shift I'm not sure how.
My issues with a revamp of EQ is that part of what I believe made EQ never actually existed. Adventure... We started playing but because it was the first real MMO we thought, "wow, how far does this go!" Later we learn it's just zones, with camps, and raids and blah blah blah...
What made EQ great for people IMO was that as I said above, we didn't know better mixed with the more realistic character models. The game was not over the top, cartoony and everything exploding or on fire. It felt more like a harsh fantasy world, but again... it was an illusion built on our not knowing any better. Once we learned the stage we played it min/max... and that was the end. Now it's all about raiding, grinding and blah blah blah.
The combat was/is horrible... So, EQ can't be re-made well, it will be like any other mmo, a huge people rushing in, starting guilds, grinding up ASAP and raiding... just like all the time locked servers. From there we all know you just rinse and repeat expansion after expansion. It's a waste of time and boring.
A very solid point which is probably why they tried to make something so drastically different with eqn.
Very well stated. Ashes of Creation and Pantheon are trying to solve this problem each in their own unique way. If they are successful, you will see an MMORPG future where virtual worlds are nonlinear and unpredictable. It would be truly revolutionary.
I'd jump back in live if they sold that lifetime sub again, they'd probably still get monthly too if they make EQ3 not included.
Never played EQ1. Played EQ2 from launch day for about 10 years though. Really miss it. Tried WoW a few times but it's simply not nearly as good as EQ2. Nothing would make me want to play WoW or EQ1, but... EQ 2in URE 5.1 would be amazing.
Need to go back to the group concept, Tank, Healer a druid or wizard for DPS and a ride and maybe a rogue to drag your corpse
Last I logged in the whole game was full of bots. Boring shit.
What would get me to play EverQuest again would be if they made a VR game
If they made a server where they released the first 3 expansions and made a new expansion for it id be back in a heartbeat. Bring it back to the old school days like it's P1999 but new unknown content and i'm sold.
New engine, drop the RMT, and a reworking of starter cities. Also I'd retcon POK.
Played EQ from 2000 to 2009ish off and on. IMO, EQ went to shit when Sony started WoWifying it. When WoW launched EQ population took a decent size hit. What did Sony do? Start punishing everyone that stuck around by making EQ more like WoW. If I wanted fast travel and little to no death penalty I would have went to that trash game when it launched.
Project1999 was fun for a while but when you have 1000+ hardcore sweaty nerds that know everything about the game and no instancing it is brutal. I am not sitting on a dragon spawn for 18+ hours for a chance at my guild getting loot.
I am really hoping Pantheon launches sometime before I die or most of the playerbase has given up or moved on. I am not giving them a dime until I see beta but I hope they succeed.
I think MMOs best hope is Ashes of Creation. Not a fan of PvP, but it looks like they intend on making it punishing enough to stop griefers.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I was very unhappy to learn that EQ Next had died and feel for anyone who paid for Landmark.
I would love to see the Eq ip reinvented. Something with all the class race combos and the and base world cities. With random generation dungeons and zones like No Mans Sky. Multi-player obviously. Good and Evil races meet in city hubs venture forth in groups to random zones with possible meetings of evil races in same zones for unexpected pvp. Maybe something like ESO style combat fast paced but much more spells and abilities.
Everquest with Elder Scrolls Online graphics would be great. I love ESO but they keep releasing a new set and rebalancing the skills every 1-3 months. At least WoW leaves stuff alone for 4-40 months at a time.
Pretty soon the payment model of Everquest will be as complex as the live server ui.
If the graphics ever got updated, I would be back in a flash and pay $20 sub a month.
The talk of a new project using the EQ IP, has me concerned they're going to go the Mobile game route or something shady like that. Too many modern game companies are chasing easy money and dont want to do the hard work to produce the labors of love that EQ, UO, DAOC, and Original WoW were at the time.
If it wasn't for EQ there would be no WOW. I would go back if they did a 3 with a new engine for sure. But Daybreak killed the game as far as I'm concerned. Bring back the grand daddy soneone please :-)
Lets See UI on the screen you are showing had over 20 separate windows up. So UI graphics are sad servers stink and are to this day not optimal especially on a new TLP or expansion. Oh and the monetization $$$$ need I say more. Well? Okay have fun getting your xp. potions so you can power level and skip through all the content /nostalgia you can to get to end game and raiding. It is a nice dream but dream it is or is that just me. ✌
I'd come back to EQ if this happened.
Just transport the old EQ into a new engine. EQ with todays Black Desert charater quality and world quality would bring me back without a doubt. Dont really change much, not even the quests, just port it over entirely.
Remake of the original game with Elden ring like graphics and mechanics. so many times playing ER i would think imagine this being EQ and you had to clear all these places in a group or raid instead of just running past everything. start with the original 3 expansions. would love a modern KD or ToV raid.
Basically everyone who isn't playing EQ retail is playing P1999 or don't know P1999 exist yet.
A remaster with crossplay along with console ports to playstation, xbox & switch like Quake did would make me play again
It is almost comical how people think EQ needs something. That footage of the male high elf is literally painful to see, and in no way an improvement upon the game. The game has been doing successful progression and also launching expansions regularly.
Giving older expansion raids and dungeon content have a soloable mode because of how empty and barren of players the game is. I know there are TLPs but people like me who don't have time much to commit to guilds anymore sometimes long to see stuff we never could see. But this is never gonna happen anyway. The game is a real museum of the old era at this point imo.
Because the game is old, I feel like everything's been done and discovered. I don't know if it's new player friendly. I've never played it, so these are just my thoughts on that. I have my eye on Pantheon though!
It is not log onj to the role playing server and see how much time you spend with any one. Then try getting out of the new player area and find your self alone in many cases the only person in many low level zones.
Amazing Content! I play single player games, but i always come back to everquest. Currently on thornblade server and love it due to knowing good people and a friendly server!
Thanks! You have become my new favorite MMO content creator.
TH-cam finally suggesting good content! =D Hail, aRedbeardflynn01 !
Believe it or not, I am completely fine with Luclin era engine. Its class systems and very poor risk vs reward model that always bothered me.
One problem is tab target combat has fallen out of favor, especially slow combat with stuff like auto attacks.
Anything really. Will almost certainly play p99 in 2023 regardless.
The next Everquest is Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen =D
Agreed.
I went back 2 yrs ago and been loving it since. Its not the old 1999 game, its evolved and in many ways gotten better. The community aspect is still there, its just a matter of finding and joining an active guild. I was surprised at how vibrant the game still is after 23 yrs and its still just as addicting. The base is older now mostly 40 to 70 age range but with merc and improvements to the game its easily played solo if one chooses. New xpansions being dropped yearly, its still a vibrant fun game and im so glad after 8 yrs away i dipped my toes back in. I was also surprised at the amount of women playing, that was a shocker to me. You can play for free and theres not a huge difference between free and paid accounts depending on what you want out of the game. Im having a ball again playing and encourage any old players to return and give it a try, your toons are sitting there still waiting for you.
They never should have canceled EQ Next...
At the very least they should have kept up with Landmark.
It would need a player base that was interested in grouping but it is way too hard for the current generation to bother with and would fail quickly.
Finding that is probably going yo be the hardest part for any social focused mmo going forward.
You will find that in P99.
I like P99 but also hated it. Waiting for hours for a group can be frustrating.
I like to box on Agnarr server. Im my own team
AMEN
Answer: A better GUI.
At minimum, updating the UI. Played EQ back in the day, and recently tried to go back but the interface was too painful. Not sure why they haven't modernized in the last 20 years. Tons of fans have tacked the problem, no reason for Sony, and later Daybreak, not to recognize and fix the issue.
They've at least been working on the UI engine on the back end for I think it's over a year now? Some windows have been moved over. I was personally hoping they'd be a bit faster on it: th-cam.com/video/9YmE_n_iDmY/w-d-xo.html
There is a EQ 3 its called Pantheon :)
Set to release in 2030!
Pantheon looks like absolute dog shit. No faith in that one. They could just remaster that first 3 or 4 expansions with unreal 5 and it'd be good enough. Pantheon has 0 nostalgia
Make it easier to go through the uploading process on Mac. I would have to buy a new comp just to play 😢
Oof! My condolences.
Really A look at the Past and a Beginning to the Future. I really think EQ3 should be EverQuest. Think Pantheon and you get pretty much what I mean. The issue with EQN is yes it's chasing World of Warcraft, Minecraft & Other Games but really is that EverQuest sorry to say but No and that is where it Failed the Hardest. But to say EQ is simple a MMO is also going to Far where in the Past it was a 3D fantasy real-time strategy game among other things. Even an RPG like Dragon Age place in Norrath would be in the EverQuest Brand. Like it or Not they were Doing a lot with EQ in the early 2000 to 2004 Like said Card Games, 3D fantasy real-time strategy game & a Console Game (PS2 EQOA) a long side Books base on EverQuest.
I was sad when they kind of went away from expanding the eq brand. I actually liked games like champions of norrath. I wanted to like lords of everquest, too.
I'm still playing eq but I would totally play a engine rework.
Get rid of Krono. I hate what Krono has done to progression servers and their economy. I'd come back if I had a group of friends to play with.
Landmark was $300 for me. $100 editions x3. *sigh* I'd still be excited for a new EverQuest game. Hell, I'd take a liscenced single-player game with fully fleshed out companions and optional co-op ala BG3 at this point. I just miss Norrath.
I didn't know how badly I wanted Larian Studios (BG3/DO:2) to make a game using the Everquest IP until reading this comment.
In EQ, YOU were the story line. You were crafting your own adventure. Now a days, games like WoW are one long Quest Line where you play out someone else's story lines. I'd come right back to EQ if they overhauled the graphics and made the interactions feel more natural. No leveling through questing. Reward players for killing harder MOBS. That will incentivize grouping. If you get rid of the leveling through questing, then people will stick around for more then 5 minutes and it will be worth grouping. An extra 25% experience buff while grouped is pointless if it takes longer to form the group then it does to do the 5 quests you have for the area and then you are leaving. What sort of story do you have to tell about your fights? WoW makes then entire leveling process just a sprint across the entire continent to do as many quests as you can. That's how WoW dungeons have become now too, a sprint. Why? because it's not worth playing the game unless you get to max level with max gear. Then it gets hard, and only because there are special boss game mechanics. What's the point. EQ needs to come back, as classic. Where the game is getting to max level. leveling meant you could progress and travel, more and further, into unknown lands. Take on bigger risks. Fight harder MOBS that do more dmg, have more HP, have better gear drops, better abilities, gave substantially more experience, which is exactly what made grouping and making friends in EQ worth it. How else can you tell a story about grouping to fight lego's in CB and someone in the next group over accidentally pulled D'vinn and he wiped then entire zone. This coming from someone who played EQ and sucked at it. I deleveled so many times. But I loved it.
Ouch, heard that.....if i regained all the exp i lost without a cleric rez, my ranger would be like.....level 191 i think
Maybe something for casters to wear other than a Robe ?! Actual drops in game with stats..... Not game shop. Ok Seriously the Robes have to go.... Alright The Next Everquest ... I think should be ground breaking . Not in the EQ Next kind of way. But in the next step kind of way ... Lets talk about the Tolkien Universe for a second. It had all different races and empires within it.. So instead of a World designed with static beginning cities , maybe they evolve in an ( Ashes ) sort of way with the exception that : Goblins ,Orc's, Giants, Dragons and all dark races Cities are evolving too. A Big contribution to get away from zones dying... A touch of (Shadow of Mordor) game with the Roaming ( more challenging ) mobs having a taunt list for calling you out if they killed you already ( short list of like last 10 people that updates and drops off as it goes )...Silly Ranger trying to solo...hehe...... Faction too.... for death being in the wrong place at the wrong time ( just like EQ ). Also create an Ai group for the 3 giant trolls that can move around in the world making camps/caves of their own. ( maybe they are a random raid encounter) . PVP The world after all is a dangerous place.....Maybe in an ( Ashes ) sort of way or just in certain open areas of zones, and in dark cities...Not only people but NPC's in the Cities going for more power again like ( Shadow of Mordor ).. Trophies like a dragons head could also be used ( Yoda style on Dagoba ) as your house or guild hall...Not just earthly structures... Clothing should be racial and have 100 different outfits to mix and match ( all as armor drops ) [ YES You can hire actual clothing designers not just people living in their moms basements ] to design these things...I believe all that and more can be accomplished.... Just stay away from the facial recognition player to character stuff..... Oh and NONE of that ( Final Fantasy stuff ) taking 15 mins for a spell or combat combo ... lol..... With the world being Live each trying to develop their own cities You wont find static mobs in the world just waiting for combat interaction, they will be doing something, until provoked or line of sight faction provoked, Or maybe you just look good to eat......It has been a long time since I have thought about such things , pretty sure theres something I didnt touch on but that is a good start.
*very* ambitious!
If we're talking a new EQ then something along the lines of EQ B4. EQ1 with the classes, gameplay and combat but all new graphics, discoveries and world. That's what people complain about right = They've done it, but don't like EQ2. So what would the world look like thousands of years in the past ? EQ2 is a futuristic setting right ? The key here is new stuff but old EQ. For example storylines/questing for HEI could be the foundation of Felwithe. You might be able to tie in some EQ Landmark. How did Kelethin get started ? Maybe make trolls not have a city but spawn around the spamp.
Dynamic not static storylines. The race wars should definitely be part. And what's with all those empty cities later expansions ? Make players have the choice of starting there.
Expand the tradeskills to mean something. There's a lot of people who don't RAID and tradeskills could be end game for them. One of the big issues of tradeskills is so much of it isn't worth doing. So make end game stuff equal to RAID stuff. All the tradeskills improvements need to be a big time sink. For example spellcraft. People who sink more plat/time into their Landmark research labs should be rewarded with better spells. Spells should never drop from a random mob. This killed the market. Questing for special spells was the right way to go as well. Like the 1st pal hot.
Make the gods you worship mean something. For example Bertoxxulous priests shouldn't be able to heal anything but disease. He's the god of disease. On the flip side no one should have better disease than them.
There's all kinds of things that could be done. I'm happy to share. The main theme of why people are not playing is they've have done it before
Happy Holidays !
I really like your idea about making the diety you worship matter. I remember the way it seemed to matter most was always something like how it impacted your illusions as a bard or exchanters. Making it more important ties the lore together better. I think eq2 made the choices important for temporary buffs but they were very temporary when I played and you had to sacrifice items.
I have over 11,000 hours on this game lol. My account was made in 2001. Been playing off and on to this very day. Enchanter/cleric two box, or Enchanter/shaman, Monk/shaman.
I've always heard Monk/Shaman was the best duo but I played an SK/Shaman years and years ago and loved it.
I still play EQ2. I played EQ for many years, but some of the tech, mechanics and graphics are just too dated for my taste these days. I am still waiting for EQ3 (whatever it may be called). I just hope it does the IP justice and they don't churn out some PvP battle royale and call it EverQuest. That would be the end of the IP.
I've tried so many times to go back to EQ2. I played it for I think 4 or 5 years straight and loved it but everytime I come back the giant numbers and sheer numbers of abilities send me away. I need to try a TLE one of these days.
The devs should put in a Redbeardflynn inspired AoC! That'd draw people back
Ion! So good to see you my friend! How goes it?
Well, nothing I guess. I still play Classic EQ and I'm playing my first EQ TLP on Oakwynd.
Been enjoying oakwynd as well!
I have played nonstop since 2000. Not sure how much longer I will honestly though. I have tried a few other MMOs, and none of them really got me like EQ.
The search for a replacement for EQ is endless.
Red Teams PVP in TL Velious ! It wouldn't take much $$$.
Years ago the numbers were the same as the other servers. Teams is completely different then individual.
I and others spent years posting on the boards what a different server we want instead of the cookie cutter we get every year
Oh that would be interesting. I never really pvped in everquest besides duels
YES !!! For crying out loud it needs to look better. Great game. But you need her to look good if she wants a date !!!! Hence more people to play and even give it a go. I'd jump back in if it at least looked better.
With the move to 64 bit I'll be curious to see if we get a "remaster" like what they're doing for LOTRO. I hope so!
The updates you are talking about are EverQuest 2. The biggest issue I had with EQ was spending hours trying to fund a group, then having to leave not long after I finally did because of real life.
You sound lazy, mr Looney. A lifetime is roughly 700 000 hours, if u cant dedicate a few of those to finding a group, i dont know what u are doing with ur life
paying for 20 slot weightless bags in pay to win, sorry to say
Been playing TLPs last 2 years. Going to Live. Enjoying the QoL changes in the later eras. Raid currency is a game changer. I wish they would revamp the whole autogrant AA system though. Grinding AAs in early era TLPs gets tiresome. The level 70 stretch is terrible. Once Rain of Fear hits the tasks that give AA and XP at the same time make a huge difference
I played through pretty much the entire lifespan of phinigel and honestly when heroic adventures hit I loved it. Was sad they kind of discontinued them.
To play retail Everquest I'd need to see the removal of Krono, Bots/Mercs and station cash.
no box server,not true box,NO BOX.
I've never played EQ. I'd love to try it, but don't know where to start. I have a feeling it's not very new player friendly at this point.
Unfortunately, it's not. It can be overwhelming to new players but if you can find a new player friendly guild on a live server or on a progression server when they launch the community can be great in helping you learn.
The game itself starts out relatively simple, at least. You won't be overloaded with systems, the main issue is the lack of guidance. There's a tutorial on live, servers, though. It's just not very good.
The problem is with the graphics always comes other changes, so it's no longer that game. They just cannot help themselves.
Freeport Revamp comes to mind.
A story might be nice or a real quest. When the starter intro was made it was awesome. EverQuest was my first mmo way way way back when.
I thought Everquest 2 did a good job of getting you to understand the world around you a bit better than Everquest did. So more accessible lore and story would be great in EQ.
As another tip do not bind your friends cleric infront of Maesyn Trueshot after they kill Tunare...
Oh no....Oh noooo
Oh hi! I started a new account in Everquest this week, created a character and started playing. I didn't last long however, but am now playing Everquest 2 instead. As an old Wow-head since 2005, I can bring maybe some insight.
1. My biggest gripe was not with graphics. In fact, I like it! Old 3D stuff has charm, and isn't very taxing on my not-great laptop. Also, many successful games today are not the most graphically insane ones, but often the ones that are accessible by a large amount of people, who can tweak their experience to fit their specs.
2. The reason I chose EQ2 over EQ was controls. EQ controls, in my mind, are clunky, and feel very dated. I know they've probably been updated since the release in 1999, but they feel unintuitive. EQ2 feels way closer to a more "modern" MMO.
EQ2 is definitely more akin to the types of MMOs that were common from 2004-2014ish with a few exceptions like GW2.
EQ2 and WoW are kind of to me like the 3rd generation of MMOs so that makes sense.
@@Redbeardflynn I bet! EQ2 and WoW being so similar probably comes from being released within like 2 months of each other so that makes sense.
Really wish something more would be done with the EQ IP though. It is really intriguing as a whole (and as someone thats level 14 in EQ2 and still has no idea what the fuck is going on)
Love your videos Redbeard, but step back as I’m gonna speak blasphemy, prepare yourself ..
EverQuest Mobile! No, not a playable EQ1 on phone, that would probably be much more difficult than a new game designed specifically for mobile.
If you’ve made it this far shame on you and me - but something both new (graphics and sound) and old (familiar zones and character / classes). A progression style game where you progress (battle) through the original EQ- yes, your character(s) will need to battle Dorn B’Dynn to advance through the Desert of Ro.
Why a game like this could work (turn away this will be bad) : some monetization! A game must be profitable to survive.
I realize this will come off as an abomination of EQ to many lovers of original, but if done correctly this could be something fresh and fun for all.
For the die hards, yes, original EQ would still be there. I myself am currently waiting for the next round of progression servers.😺
I'm going to take your blasphemy one step further....everquest playable on the steam deck. Something with controls that would be a bit more intuitive and easier to cycle through.
Love the blasphemy! Thank you for the comment. And he'll yeah I'd play it.
@@Redbeardflynn Haha Merry Christmas, Redbeard! 🤣👍
Quit my job and live off the government
Playing on p99 right now. Just medding while I check my email get some water and look at youtube.
Why do I play... Because I still enjoy the game and community at large.
Not a fan of the raid culture on p99 but raiding is not my thing so... whatever. I just enjoy the adventure and have fun. If I am not having fun that day I won't play heck until 10pm tonight I was on a 2 week break. It's now 1am...
I'm glad you've been enjoying p99! The slower pace is something I missed on progression servers at times because it always felt like a race and eventually even camping goes away and it's all about working through quest lines or dungeons
@@Redbeardflynn yah not my cup of tea. I enjoy the journey, rushing that just kills my enjoyment of things and it is what burnt me out back in the day.
By the time pop came out I was basically exhausted between the pace of life school/work, adventuring and raiding. Something had to give and I quit EQ after a blow out with my guild over raiding.
The guild went from casual to raiding and I was one of the people that had pushed for us to get more serious. Then a few months later life came knocking.
I ended up going back to table top games, hobby time and painting. I only came back to playing EQ in October. Has on it as warm up because i am on the pantheon support at a beta access level when that happens.
When you put “New Game Engine” up I saw the abbreviation NGE in my head and just winced.
Oh nooooo. 😭 poor swg
Im very new too EQ I really love the graphics and environment and I saw the combat how fast and nice it looks as they level higher. However I struggle with the UI, for example was trying to do that smithing quest and couldn't get all the required bars kept failing and the AI that gave me quest wouldn't give me more mats. Also can never tell where the heck too go or what to do. A problem my friend and me had was we always accidentally clicked our character when we were trying to do combat. I'm not too great at explaining but yeah everquest 2 played alot smoother for me but no1 wanted too play it with me unfortunately. Alot of fetch quests. ( just my honest experience, I'm a noob with no experienced friends too play this with all my friends couldn't stand it sadly, we come from old school runescape)
Everquest 1 is due for a UI revamp and they're setting the groundwork for it this year. The UI itself won't be changing yet but they're changing the back end for future changes, basically updating it.
Funny you mention Runescape because I actually plan to try that game in the future. I've never played.
A few quick tips that I find helpful for new EQ players.
- make sure to set a keyboard button to select targets. It'll be easier than clicking with a mouse. I personally use tab but you'll need to move it off of it's current setting which cycles back to you. Later games do this by default but not EQ.
- Questing until much much much later in Everquest (talking 15+ expansions in) is largely optional despite its name. The best experience is usually killing monsters.
@@Redbeardflynn wow thank you bro ! That's really exciting and I'm tempted too reinstall and give it another whirl I've spent alot of time watching you and others play it and really enjoy it, I remember being six years old and seeing the artwork and screen shots in magazines absolutely amazed I wanted too play it so badly. If you do start on old school runescape I'd be glad too help you in anyway possible, gear, quests etc. One of the things for me in video games I get worried if I don't quest I'll miss out on lore and new areas, I love anything with vampires or ghouls, I have a bit of lore knowledge of EQ because my favorite ps2 games were the champions of norrath hack n slashes on ps2
80k monthly login ? did you removed all the one due to bot what are using there to make a fine group and play alone ?
I'm sure that includes a lot of people boxing but those are the only numbers we have from EG7's investor documents.
I loved EQ1, and still play eq2 with my 3 kids. I would play a new EQ game, but I don’t want a reskin of the old games. I want an all new game that stays true to the original concepts and lore. EQ 1 & 2 are awesome, but too many expansions in. Restart a all new game.
The gap for new players in both games is so immense now.
@@Redbeardflynn exactly my point, I don't want a port. I want EQ 3 ;P
Just do a Diablo II Resurrected style graphic mod overhaul
Or the Halo Master Chief Collection. I think it'd be really cool to be able to toggle back and forth.
Any recommendations of something close to EQ I could play?
That's something many of us have been looking for for a very long time!
Ember's Adrift just released and there's a vocal group of players that are really enjoying it's classic feel.
Pantheon is going to have a lot of similarities with EQ but it's still quite a ways off.
As for other current games like EQ? There aren't any that really come to mind that would match the community aspect and gameplay aspects. But if you want to divert a little bit the usual suspects of WoW (WoW Classic), FFXIV, ESO, and GW2 are all solid MMOs. Less obvious would be emulators for games like Vanguard, Warhammer Online, and SWG.
I am playing Everquest, on a Planes of Power era emulation server. 😊
I love this Era in eq! Especially on progression. My favorite eq memories are from the phinigel progression!
P99 or PoP locked server is the only way to play EQ in 2023 imo
I'm a big fan of a lot of the expansions after PoP but I know there's a large portion who like either through Velious like on P99 or stopping at PoP (as seen by population drops on progression servers)
Make agnarr free to play or at least reduced pay . And I'll go back love the old engine lol
This is something I think they might want to look into for their next batch of Progression servers. Maybe making one of them f2p as an experiment.