WLTOYS 144001 Brushless Build UPGRADE - 2440 4600kv Motor ESC Combo - 1/14th RC Buggy
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- In this VIDEO! We do a WLTOYS 144001 Brushless Build UPGRADE - 2440 4600kv Motor ESC Combo - 1/14th RC Buggy
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Buy the Brushless ESC and Motor Combo Here: 2838 2500kv
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or
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or the Racestar 2440 4600kv Motor with 2.3mm Shaft like in this video
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and
35A Racestar ESC usa.banggood.com/custlink/3mm...
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Motor Mount usa.banggood.com/custlink/mvm...
15T pinions
HobbyKings 5mm Pinion hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking...
Aliexpress Pinion 2.3mm Bore www.aliexpress.com/item/32847...
Adapter shaft for 15t 5mm bore Pinion to 3.175
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Just found this video, i see you found a straight forward brushless install. awesome i'll give this a try.
I’m thinking of getting a 124019 and doing a brushless conversion it sounds like a fun little upgrade compared to stock
SUPER TIPPS.!! Clever - thanx
I have just received this motor and a 30 amp ESC. Can't wait to get mine running. Hope I have the right screws for the mount!
Very nice!, Thank for the video, it is helpful for me to confirm which motor and pinion to get for brushless setup! Bash on!
Yeah for sure. a 2838 would probably be nice too. I'm gonna try that next.
Thanks for that modding tutorial, this is a great video! I'm planning on doing a 3S MT basher with my 144001. I will go with the LC Racing motor mount to be on the safe side in case I have to change the pinion to something else. I have to figure which tires to get for it. Have a good one and stay safe! ;)
Awesome man, you stay safe too.
In this VIDEO! We do a WLTOYS 144001 Brushless Build UPGRADE - 2440 4600kv Motor ESC Combo - 1/14th RC Buggy
Great info
Nice upgrade runs good
thank you!
Thanks for the vid! Planning to go brushless on my 124019. This setup appeals to since there’s not much modifications. I don’t care about speed runs I just want it more efficient.
Very cool man, this is a good setup.
@@VallonesRCHobby Did you try out the other red brushless motor? If you did I haven’t found that video yet.
@@embeaston yeah the 2838?
This guys voice sounds like Raymond from everybody loves Raymond, lol
keep up the good videos
haha, I try! =)
I love the 144001. As I’m new to cars, the stock car is plenty fast, for now!
35-38kmh stock
Awesoome man. I got my 2440 motor and parts sitting in the buggy. Just waiting for that damn pinion lol
Awesome, let me know how you make out.
Hey man , how is that car?
Thanks for the shoutout! I’m getting better by the day, thanks.
I’ve got a steering mod planned soon.
That’s sounding really good. Which bug body is that?
Have a great day bro and be safe out there!
Hey Dave! Yeah search for wltoys 144001 bug body on eBay, and it comes up. Or here www.ebay.com/itm/Gorgeous-lexan-baja-bug-body-cover-for-Wltoys-XKS144001-FREE-DIY-LED-light-kit/373284017269?hash=item56e9761475:g:nB4AAOSwRylfakGq
@@VallonesRCHobby thanks buddy!
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Hey Dave sorry to hear you hurt yourself . . . get well soon man I hope you'll make a 100% recovery in a few days' time. Cheers!
@@radiocontrolled9181 thanks! 🙏💯 I’ll be off work about 3 months as it looks now.
Have a fabulous day. 💯👍🏻
@@RCModSquad rc mod squad in the house
Can you show us if the lc racing motor mount really fits on the wltoy 144001. Or does it require some modification?
Anyone know if the mode bottom on the stock controller actually does anything? Just got mine today this thing is sweet right out of the box!!
That thing jams! You definitely have to send me the link to that beetle body. Also, it looks like you put different wheels/ tires on it. Did I miss that part?
Yeah brother! Hows things? www.ebay.com/itm/Gorgeous-lexan-baja-bug-body-cover-for-Wltoys-XKS144001-FREE-DIY-LED-light-kit/373284017269?hash=item56e9761475:g:nB4AAOSwRylfakGq And yeah slightly bigger, these REMO tires. Unfortunately the bug body is not aero dynamic, so she was shifting a lot on the road at high speeds. I forgot to show the tires in the build. Sorry.
I put a 3650 - 3900kv. I made my own motor mount with metal gears. I popped a wheel off broke a axel and the back wheel hub. going to metal parts.
Hi. Very nice video. 1 question pls. Why you have the capacotors there. Thank you sou much.
Now we’re talking. I might run a bigger esc when I swap mine. Any idea why the smaller motor is faster?
If you try 3S on that setup: Better having a fire-extinguisher , just in case you motor does not enjoy spinning near 60K RPM, but you could also cook some eggs on the tiny no fan ESC.
I ran it on 3s, it did very good. Got it to 53 mph. Ran cool too.
@@classicvwbugs Very nice ! I must have over geared my 3100KV 2840 with 27 t stock pinion because my no-fan surpass hobby 35Amp ESC is so hot on 2S it makes the ESC to shutdown and burns my fingers before half a stock 2s battery. Good to know your combo is better.
@@bretzeletouffeur7401 Yeah for sure, gotta drop that pinion gear down.
Very nice and detailed video, thanks 4 sharing.
Wouldn't it be advisable to upgrade the spur gear to a metal one when you go brushless?
You could for sure, but I think for what I was running, with this setup, the stock one will work.
I found out that the Assortment of plastic gears work for the mini b in the mini t I don’t know if it with that buggy that you have but it’s worth a shot
Wrenching on your RC in a real auto garage takes it to the next level! Love it, nice work. I ordered a 2440 for my HS 18301 last night because I didn't think to search for '38 length that you mention here. There's plenty of room in the chassis so let's see how it goes...
awesome man, keep me posted.
Great video, Just to let you know, I pick a 2938 4850KV Part # L6149 from Riptide Rc Racing and put it on my EMB-1 Buggy and is running great, doing 49 to 52 MPH on 2S, is a bit pricey $4199 but this is the hobby. Since you have a good set up with the 144001 maybe that will be a good motor to try. Love your channel And glad to know that Dave is doing good, Just to let you know I am a 63 year old kid and retired and coming back to the rc word back in march 2020 and in less than six months already own eleven rc's. Trying to find something fun to do with this covid -19 situation and the 144001 is the cheapest car I own but the most time consuming to get mod. I will be waiting to to see what is your next video. Saludos.
Very cool Milton! Glad to have ya aboard! Hey, is your price right? $4199? Or is it $41.99? 😃
@@VallonesRCHobby Sorry, $41.99.
@@MiltonAPrado-lo1po Ah I figured Milton, no worries. Let me know how you make out with it. Did you need a new ESC for that?
@@classicvwbugs Hi Chris, So far I am using the original ESC with a 19T pinion from Riptide Rc and the temps are normal. I will keep running the car to see how does. I am in Houston Tx so the weather change all the time and so far still kind of warm if the car stays cool I will try the 21T that is coming in the next couple of days, I will let you Know.
I like this 15
Tooth pinion
@@bobbybanks1385 Yep keeps things cool too. 3s should be no problem.
I can’t find an ESC strong enough to run the Traxxas Titan 550 12T on 3s in my 144001. The stock ESC can handle 3s, but it burned out when I tried 3s with the Titan. PLEASE help me!!!
Great video, this armor can be used in wltoy 124019 ?
Yessir!
m new to this rc stuff. just got a truck off amazon with this 2440 brushless already. I been looking for way to make it faster and came across your vid. you almost hit 40mph with just a 3s. any idea what I should to hit close to same mph with mines. My truck is an DEERC 330e
well that is a different RC, so really can't compare it to the WLToys. I hit over 40 on 3s, it was actually close to 50mph on 3s, I ran this on 2s in this vid.
How are you using a smaller pinion with the stock motor mount? It has predrilled holes and I would think you would need slots in your motor mount to move the motor closer to the spur.
Because there are an extra two other mounting holes in the motor mount. When you use the smaller can motor with the 15t pinion, you are good to go.
I’m planning on doing this with the wltoys 124019 I think this would work but just checking before I purchase the items
I have a video coming out this week hopefully on that exact topic. Stay tuned.
@@VallonesRCHobby ok thanks I’ll just old my purchase for a little bit then
@@cameroncayou2487 Yeah stay tuned.
Hey where did you get your VW buggy body shell??
Have you considered 3d printing pinions? Or maybe a better approach, 3d print a standard pitched spur so you can use commonly available pinions?
Hi, I am a newbie. Thanks for sharing your brushless upgrade with 2440 4600kv. I just ordered all the components and will upgrade exactly the same as you did, because I agree that it is the most realistic build considering the small space on 14401, and as you achieved 54 mph it is an enough speed for me. My bit concern is, with a small diameter (compared to 3650 brushless), will it stand the heat, especially when using 3s?
Because of the 15t pinion, it just makes it run cooler compared to the 27t on the stock setup.
@@classicvwbugs That makes sense. As you explained, with 15t pinion, the load will reduce to about (27-15)/ 27 or about 40%. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge.
Hi, first of all thanks for your awesome videos. I have the same setup as you but with the FS-GT5 Transmitter, the problem is i've alread aligned the servo arm, the toe and the camb but i cannot keep the wheels straight while car is running doesnt matter how config i do on my transmitter. Do you have any idea of how could i solve it? Thanks.
They won't stay straight? You have a gyro in there?
@@VallonesRCHobby Yes, the car goes to the right even when the gyro is on. Should i do some ajustment on that red ring near the steering bar? I mean, relase the coil or something like that? The servo arm is not fully stretched after the endpoints have been configured. Thanks.
@@fabiofboful And steering trim is adjusted? Yeah maybe try turning down the gyro, might not be needed. And yes try loosening the servo saver spring
Is there an adjustable motor mount that fits this? I want to do this but don't like the tightness of the pinion.
No need if you use the 15t pinion, it goes right in like butter. But if you want to go to a higher pinion or something, you can use the LC racing adjustable motor mount.
Out of the 2 motors you listed in the description which ine gives more speed and which one is bigger
Ha, ironically, it is the 2440 motor that gave me the best speeds, and it is smaller than the 2838.
@@VallonesRCHobby thanks alot
@@lukecmb608 You bet man! =)
So it's a little slower than the 144010 as standard. Or about the same speed. Some have reached 66 and some 70. But the 144010 goes for 3s with a battery of 90-100kmh. Admittedly, I don't know if it can withstand 3 s of use
Definitely the proper size motor for track racing. Do you think 2 of the 28xx size motors could top 100 mph in a 144001. I have a mount figured out, I just need to take a few hours to make it, but if you have proper tools it would take under 30 minutes. It's very simple to make, if your interested let me know.
Holy cow I am interested! hey can we do a ZOOM call on this? Upload it here on YT? That would be sick!
@@VallonesRCHobby I will make a short private video I'll send you a link later this evening. It will take some cutting, and a couple tack welds, or epoxy might work. Once I get mine cut I'll pay someone 25 bucks to weld it back together. After thinking about it, either way a 144001 with dual motors will be cool even if it doesn't break 100mph. The 124019 is a better platform to try to beat 120 mph anyway.
@@RCOverKill Hell yeah man! good stuff!
@@VallonesRCHobby I just got home, I'm sorry I didn't get to it tonight, but have all day tomorrow.
@@RCOverKill Ah no worries man, all good. =o)
Great video! Did you try a 3s battery with this setup? i have some 2200 3s laying around. greetings from the netherlands
I have yes, it got to 53 mph.
@@classicvwbugs Thanks for the quick reply! I have the 124019 version. With the longer wheelbase. In my mind it has the same power setup and this brushless racestar upgrade should fit the 124019 model?
@@marklievens7311 No doubt, it should work well. Something of this size can go 2445 or 2450 size can.
@@VallonesRCHobby What kv do you recommend? for the 2445motor? Will the 35a esc be enough?nl.banggood.com/Racerstar-2445-Motor-Senseless-Brushless-Waterproof-5400-or-3600-or-3000KV-1-or-16-1-or-18-RC-Car-Part-p-1116661.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=516954&rmmds=search
@@marklievens7311 hmmm well, surprised there is no 4500kv there. 3600 will not be anything great but... how fast are you looking to go?
is this water resistant enough to drive on wet grass or snow?
A lil bit, not a soaking.
I wouldn't recommend any wet conditions because it will slowly mess up your rc car, bearings will get noisy, motor will start to screech, and the esc will eventually burn out, even small puddles can cause problems later down the road, with your electronic and bearings, if you run the rc in water, rain, snow, puddles dry the rc with compressed air when finished or with blow dryer
If you live in areas where they use salt to de ice I'd recommend staying away from any road salted roads parking lots or paths, but this is my recommendation if you have any second guesses about where or when you want to run your rc car don't do it
but if you just want to have a good time for a short period of time run it however you decide but stuff will wear out and need replacing
If you take a bit of caution when playing. about weather, when, where the rc car will last a long time as long you take care of it
Hose it down with grease and oil first.I run wet and gravel.Gravel sticks to the grease.Throw it in a parts washer and regrease and oil it.
Remember to mount cap packs as close to the esc as possible verry important
Why
@@TheNamesArif or it doesn't catch the ripple effect in time it acts like a battery there is a super deep understanding video on this but ull notice using low discharge battery pack the packs make a huge difference
hey dude! just wondering, that screw pack u have, does it have the screws to hold the shocks onto the shock tower?
Yes it does! Every screw that is needed to put that car together.
@@VallonesRCHobby ok good cause I broke mine and ordered that pack but I wasn't sure whether they had the right screw
@@harrynewman6532 Yeah for sure man.
Just orderd a surpass 2840, 4000kv motor and 35amp ecs. Using 2200 2s batteries. Waht kind of runtime can i expert? (It al depends on your trigger finger.... i know) but Just to get an idea. The old step was 7 min max! With a flaming hot motor and esc.
I would say 15-20 min? Maybe lil more.
What would i need to make my 144 brushless.... Id actually like your exact setup. Everything i would need?? Thanks in advance
I have a video on it th-cam.com/video/S8sevWxARBY/w-d-xo.html
Brushless motor and esc 3 pin servo receiver and transmitter.
@@2dark49 yep, that's what is in this video.
Nice build! I have an unusual 3650 can size motor which only has 2500kv. Do you think I could safely run it with a 35 amp esc for a 4500kv 2840? Not looking for sick power in my 144001, but just longer run times and and less heat in operation. Thanks and subbed✌😎
you should be ok, as long as you have the 15t pinion.
@@VallonesRCHobby Awesome, thanx a bunch for the answer! Originaly I wanted keep the original pinion with a large can to save drilling and fettling but since I had a wrecked a959 I decided to opt for the a959 pinion instead paired to a 2845 racestar 3900kv. Test drive an hour ago. Workes beautifully😀
@@michaelcliffe562 Nice did you mod the motor mount?
@@VallonesRCHobby Yes, I did mod the motor mount by elongating the holes.
Unfortunatly I smoked the goolrc ESC just by connecting a 3s to it, even though its rated for 2-3s. Must've been a dudd🤷♂️
hello, for the 124019 using this 2445 engine, which grip size is better 15t or 17t?
to me with the stock motor mount, the 15t is best. If you want to use the 17t, you need to mod the mount a bit or use the LC racing mount.
@@VallonesRCHobby Thank you very much, I will use the 15t one because my idea is to make the least possible modification. Right now I have a 3650 of 3100kv and it seems to me that it is a lot of speed for the use that I give it on land. I expect this new configuration of 2440 with 15t to be slower and controllable at low speed.
@@Akatsukikorn I got mine with the 2440 15t up to 54 mph on 3s.
What steering servo are you using? The link is broken. Great video!
Sorry about that, the PDI-1181MG.
@@classicvwbugs Thanks for that. You've pretty much talked me into picking up the 2440-4600 kV over a 2445-3600 kV (on 3S)
Did you not have to slot the motor mount like quadify mentioned in his articles?
Was it just a direct fit?
Not with the 15t pinion.
Awesome thanks for the response
So with the 2400 motor
No slotting, drilling
Just cutting some of the plastics
Thanks for the quick response
Will be subscribing.
@@anthonyromero6219 Thats exactly it. =o)
How would you go about programming it?
@@anthonyromero6219 They do sell a program card, but i do not think you need it, the default settings are good.
Great video. Wonder how's your setup holding up so far? Planning for the same setup as you but a bit concerned about the thin motor shaft...
So far so good, still going strong.
I had the same problem with it going into limp mode. Did you ever figure out what is causing it? Battery too small?
I had the limp mode when I used the brushed setup with the hobbywing 1060 esc. Is this what you are referring to? My brushless setups were good, no limp.
@@VallonesRCHobby with the brushed 1060 esc. I had the same problem I am thinking it was the battery was too small
@@backyardr.c.channel4732 Yeah look for one with a higher C rating. But I also put a small cap pack on too.
I’m wanting to do this either this motor or 2838 but I’m wanting to know which is faster and better. I want fast but handles good for bashing. I’m undecided. I have seen the quadify page but still can’t decide. What has more power snd is abit faster?
the 2440 did better with me.
@@VallonesRCHobby I See some recomending the 2445 for this RC have you tried that one? I am new to the hobby and i cant really understand which motor to get for this rc car some are using the 3050 some use the f540 some using the 2838 some using the 2040 and others the 2445. LIke which one do i use haha ? I also am not sure what motors will fit the motor mount is there sizes that wont fit ?
@@haneko6422 I had great success with the motor I used in this video, had a great top speed I thought.
@@classicvwbugs Yeah i thought so too, but i am curious how is the torque. Does it do good on rougher terrain?
@@haneko6422 Not sure, I have just done speed runs with it.
Link to tires??
Puse un 24 38 3500kv con piñón 17 y 3s refrigerando con un ventilador se quemó el motor a la cuarta salida... Sin ponerlo a velocidades máximas😭
Be nice if they gave you gearing pitch.
I mention it in the video and in the description. its .7mod
I run this exact setup on 2S right now. The ESC get's extremely hot, too hot to touch. I don't think that's normal right? Should I just get a bigger esc with a fan? (I ran it without the body so air isn't a problem)
You are running a 15t pinion?
Mine doesn't get that hot on 2s.
Yes I am
Maybe a faulty Esc? I even run the stock 2S battery, gears don't grind either. I did put some heavy weight Traxxas grease in the diffs.
@@owen6271 Hmmm, check the hobbywing quickrun brushless series ESCs, they seem to be more dependable. You can get the 60amp esc, and it does not get hot for me too much.
Hello! I have exactly the same setup on my car. But when i was going to start it up the first time today, it was something strange with the servo. It was moving just a little bit, but then it stopped working. It is just making a strange sound. Do you have any clue what it can be? I'm using a Dumbo RC X6 Transmitter.
What servo do you have on there?
@@classicvwbugs a JX 17g metal gear PDI-1181MG
@@steffenracing1988 possibly a faulty servo? Or did you put the wire in wrong on the esc?
@@classicvwbugs maybe a faulty servo yes. I conectet the same colored wires from the motor to the esc, so i don't think i did that wrong.
Conected the servo on the first spot on the receiver, and the esc on the second spot.
Great video. Does the Tacon motor mount fit the 144001?
It does, tight fit though.
Wha kind of run time are you getting with this setup? That’s my main reason for wanting to go brushless.
15 min or so
What mah? What run time were you getting in stock setup with the same mah?
@@first6982 anything from 1300 - 2000 mah. The 1300 was a 3s battery. Any 1500 - 2000mah will give ya 15-20 min on 2s.
@@classicvwbugs cool, thank you!
ei man, why the 2838 combo comes with a 35a ESC and motor requires 43/50a ?
That's a good question, they come as a combo like this. I had no issues tho with it.
@@VallonesRCHobby temp is ok?
@@RedPanda_00806 Surprisingly yes, but it was on a cool day, not too hot.
Did you experience any hesitation or cogging as i have this with the same setup
Not really no.
Must be my esc
@@rhyshott92 I have that issue. Tried 2 different ESCs and it still shutteres/ hesitates before it takes off. No idea what it is
@@banshee107 i bout a branded esc problem was fixed
Hi mate - just doing this conversion myself now and thought I'd clarify that the correct screws to attach the 2440 to the motor mount are M2.5 x 8mm. Quadify RC mentions this and I can confirm.
Excellent! Thanks so much!
will this work on the 12419 MLtoys?
for sure yes
@@VallonesRCHobby what parts would I need exactly? I se a few different options you added
@@VallonesRCHobby do I just need motor and ecs? Or will I need service and new receiver? Thanks kinda new to doing conversions
@@BobbySi507 Nah you need motor, esc, controller, receiver, and servo.
@@classicvwbugs thanks for the info
So when i raced on carpet back in the late 90s all we had were nicads but i mainly ran the "stock" class and imo that 550 can motor is a "stock" motor but its timed really slow and im betting its a cheap crawler motor or what was called 17.5 spec class motor thats why wltoys ran the 27T pinion. Why does this matter? well i think your 13T motor is a "mod" motor and pulls way to many amps for a small esc. When i raced stock class was a 27T motor but they would blow that 550 motor away. I remember running a bunch of them but off the top of my head was one called "the Trinity green machine or the midnight" it was a fixed timing 24 and 34 degrees (all stock motor were fixed timing) but it was 27 turn and im sure it would of #1 ran faster then that 550 #2 ran fine on that stock esc. Now i know people claim or ive read that the stock wltoys motor was a 17 turn but im betting it has a low timing or something to keep it from drawing a ton of amps like your 13T one did. I think if you gave the brushed setup another shot with an actual 27T "stock" brushed motor you will be suprised at the results. Brushed motors are like tube amps there is something different about them that makes them special. Brushless is cool but they seem to be missing something
Ah the 90s! My JRX-2 years! hahaha. I had a trinity 9t motor in my losi back then, with a tekin ESC. Great times. But yeah I would consider the brushed again, I used the 15t yeah racing with the stock 27t in the wltoys.
Io me ho una ma la potenza del motore fa gioco sui meccanismi
15T P seems still loosing teeth a bit
I don't understand, can you clarify?
So how long will that tiny motor last. People who own lc racing burn them out pretty quick if you show it any abuse/race. Waste of time and money but a great video on what not to do.
Damn! Mr. doom and gloom here. hahaha
@@VallonesRCHobby hell yeah! Haha it's just too small man. Get a 3650 or 3660 no messing and the mesh is PERFECT! So not all doom and gloom 😁 it's the logical choice
@@mehimrc1314 Yeah everyone has done that with a 3650, I gotta be a lil different. Plus this is the way the LC lines and Tacon lines are setup, the car drives more balanced with these lil motors like this, they run cooler too, diffs are less likely to strip too. But I hear ya man! =o) Be well.
Maybe then 2838 or 2840 be good middle ground?
Upgraded? or updated? Lol
Ha, I guess both! 😃
Buy this buggy in the UK from here: radio-controlled.co.uk/product/wltoys-144010-1-14-2-4g-4wd-high-speed-racing-brushless-rc-car-vehicle-models-75km-h/?