$30 CHEAP Brushless Motor and ESC | GOOD OR NOT?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ต.ค. 2020
- Looking for a cheap brushless motor and esc combo for your rc car? Look no further! For $15 each with shipping, you can buy yourself this brushless rc motor and this brushless 60 amp esc to go with it. There's other brushless rc combo out there, like the GOOL RC's, but I wanted to test this one out instead since it was $10 cheaper.
Quick review: The brushless motor looks nice and tidy. Definitely has a lot more power if paired with better gearing and an ESC. The brushless esc looks cheap and does not look like it can handle a lot of power, but it held it's own in about 15-20 minutes of full throttle.
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Correction** I keep saying $15, but I mean $15 each! So $30 total. Let me know what cheap brushless combo you guys use 👍
today i ran my slash 2wd 12t and xl5 esc on a 3s lipo and it only lasted around 20 seconds then fried forward out of the esc but i still had reverse so i reversed the wires on the motor and ran it with a 2s lipo and got 29 mph with it on a 23t pinion and 86t spur....got 35 mph on 3s before the smoke started so it was weak id say when i hit 29 with the 2s.....never checked speed before i changed gears so i think ill do that tomorrow and see the difference between 19t 90t gears that was on car when i bought it used vs the 23t 86t i put on it
I use the ghool RC motor ESC combo. I've had it for about a year and it still working very well in my two-wheel drive slash. Seems like it works better than this $15 set up. You just need to make sure you order the higher KV motor from ghool.
just bought a 2340 6300kv bl motor with 25a for 12$!!! going in my sprintjet boat. waterproof as well
for the budget, goolrc is my go-to brand.
There's nothing wrong with these esc's. People burn these up because they be trying to run 3s and 4s setups with them geared to the moon. I have one of these in a Tamiya touring car with the stock gearing and on 2s and it went fast enough to get the car airborne and flip. I've had it for 2 years and no issues whatever
That’s good to know. Haven’t used it long enough but it’s holding up fine like you said on 2s, so I’m happy for the price! I also put it in my Tamiya Grasshopper and it definitely has more kick on a smaller and lighter platform 👍🏽
a 60a esc should be able to handle 3s
@@rcloadout8357 That depends on the KV of the motor you are running.
So... what's the point of running a brushless if it's not going to be faster then the Professional grade, stable, traxxas brushed combo. If it can't handle a 3s It's just pure garbage, no offense
Would it be ok on 3s but with the gearing from my brushed motor which is dead stock for brushed rustler
I bougth the same combo + servo and transmitter, very happy
Yeah they’ve all held up good so far!
this looks exactly like a Hobbywing/Hobbyking 60 amp esc which i have been using since 2009 in my indoor touring cars with 10 turn motor,never had a failure but do not know if these are the same internals Mosfets etc? Used on 2S Never had a problem with them.Still have 4 of them that are still being used. the 120 amp model sold by some of the same stores are cog monsters and seem cheaper than the 60 amp?
If you did 3s on the esc you might actually get more without pooching, but 3s is likely to pooch it from my experience despite them claiming that it can take it. The motors seem capable of 4s and above.
I got this same motor in my slash. I geared it up to a 17 tooth pinion. I am using a sidewinder esc, the motor stays cool enough, and it hits 28 on 2s. The motor runs too hot on 3s. Decent motor👍
Yeah decent speed, definitely with a higher tooth it should hit 30s+ easy. I’ll have to retry it with a 20-23 maybe
@@JacobusRC watch the motor temperatures, mine overheated on 3s with a 17tooth.
I have that motor in a xb4 race buggy and its just as good as other much more expensive setups gets super hot and handles it to
Do you know what programming card works for this esc?
anyone know how to calibrate these ESCs? i have one similarl 60a with a fan on top, from ali express. ive tried holding throttle down and powering on ESC but it just beeps until it senses neutral and then when it does sense neutral it beeps like a quadcopter ESC
Nice vid dude, originally saw this on Reddit.
Welcome, welcome! Thanks and appreciate the comment 👍🏽
@@JacobusRC reddit post link?
Ciao ho montato il motore 4300 Kv 60 A su una moto !/5 , con una lipo 3s partiva e poi si fermava, ho letto che questo tipo di motore va bene conpoco lipo 2s. Però appena parte il motore singhiozza poco e poi va a regime. Puoi darmi un consiglio? dipende dalla regolazione con la scheda? dammi una mano. Grazie Michele
Hi, I mounted the 4300 Kv 60 A motor on a motorbike!/5, with a 3s lipo it started and then stopped, I read that this type of motor goes well with a little 2s lipo. But as soon as the engine starts, it hiccups a little and then goes up to speed. You can give me an advice? does it depend on the setting with the card? give me a hand. Thanks Michael
i have a 540 brushed motor i still have a little bit of space more for about 1cm i want upgrade to brusless which one will fit it and how much kv is good ? i want make my car faster. thanks first!!!!
Any 540 can size brushless motor should fit the mount, length it depends on the rc. For KV, something like a 3000-5000kv motor should be fine. Higher KV will probably destroy the drivetrain on a cheaper made RC
How the heck do you program the esc? There is no button, and I don't have a program card, however the manual says it has a button on the on/off switch. :/
There should be a red button, buy try going on Wish they sell the program card
@@JacobusRC oh ok, thanks!
Ive just brought this motor with the same esc but the esc is a 120a ive brought it for a hpi wolverine so hopefully it will be all good
I'm running a Rcrunning esc rated up to 6s and a rocket 3800 kv in my infraction mega only running on 3s seems slow??? Any info would help
Maybe pushing 4s will make it faster
How do you link them to the remote
nice brows my guy!!!
Great video man! These ESCs are not designed to last long, but I still bought one because it's all I could afford. LOL! I bought one for my 144001 expecting it to die in the first few days. To my surprise it lasted 4 months! I say "lasted" because when I drove my 144001 recently the ESC gave off a strong burning smell haha. Still runs but it's definitely time for me to buy a proper ESC.
Thanks! I hope mine lasts that long LOL. I’ll have to ask you for some tips on the F-16 or the 1444440001 (lol) later when I look into one
I watched that 90 kmh video. That's insane fast! I also have that 120a esc on my Xinlehong 9125 with 2845 3800kv. Runs fine on 3s even 4s (unladen). On 4s when i testing the throttle pulling it very quickly, on the 3rd time when the trigger is at rest, it sudden accelerates to full throttle for 3 seconds then power cuts off. Esc is fried, servo is also affected. I dont know if my receiver too. I cant test it right now.
I observe on this esc that when on low speed then pull the trigger quick, it lags. Is it because the factory timing settings is maybe high? My Tx Rx is Dumborc X6. I dont have any esc to compare it.
Had one for a week in a vattera v100 ran perfectly on 2s but caught fire in a matter of seconds when I put on a 3s. It was the 60amp one and I was using a 4500 mah 130c lipo so I guess it had just to much juice for it to handle 🤣 good thing I ran it with out the body shell or it would have been toasted
I have a slash with oba and i Just bought a brushless motor and esc, but i wanna keep using the on board audio but i dont know how.
Do you know how to do IT???
Your esc needs to have a special connector to link to the OBA module, I think traxxas specific esc are the only ones that work
Or you can try soldering a red jst plug to another esc and it should work the same
I’ve been getting a 3650 4370kv motor and 60 amp combo off banggood for $30 there both black it says the motor is 540 and I hit 57mph in a little 144001 yesterday on 3s and no heat or cut offs or problems!! 🤞🏼 Yet I got an orange BL3650-4300kv motor and 60amp esc combo for about the same price off e-bay and it runs ok for a few mins then just loses power or I get a burst and the car shoots off and crashes??? I noticed the motor got hot so put a heat sink with built in fan on it but no difference so I’m maybe going to try a bigger esc? Or it may be my receiver? But I’ve 3 of the $30 banggood ones one in the 144001 and 2 in two Tamiya’s and no problems?? Gonna look your combo up I may try it?? 👍
You’re probably better off with your combo, this ESC is not good haha - but it is the cheapest so I had to test out! Banggood has those deal but the shipping times are brutal sometimes
@@JacobusRC true but I’m usually waiting about 2weeks to England from China, so not bad. I’ll subscribe I forgot I’m getting the ZD racing BX-8E with a 120amp esc and a 4068 2000kv motor combo. Do you reckon this will do me? It’s a 1/8 scale buggy and I’ve heard good things about it. I saw it 6months ago but have had to save. You can buy it without the electrics so was wondering on a better combo for it? Or do you think the one it comes with will do the job? I was considering an ez-run or castle combo??
@@rcandy5119 Appreciate it! Yeah I think that 2000kv would be good, for brand name i've heard good things about the hobbywing max6 combo and the castle creations monster x
What battery did u use
Got the same set up going to put in the new wl toys sand buggy soon as i get trans and reciever next wk also got the program card
Wltoys probably will fly with this setup! I’ll have to get the program card, couldn’t find it for cheap when I was lookin
I bought a 3800kv and 60amp esc castle system and my truck goes 54mph on a 2s with 23/76 gearing u have to catch a deal at the right time castle is KING paid $60 not bad
What does gearing up mean? Sorry for the newbie question I just got my first hobby grade RC its a tamiya dt-02. Do you think this will be ok for it? Anything I should know before I go onto brushless?
This is a stupid question but what if you tried that motor with a Traxxas brushless ESC? Would that even work/hold up?
It should work. I'd trust the motor more than the ESC.
@@JacobusRC ok thanks
What kind of esc is the 50 amp you had in the vehicle?
I believe that is a Hobbywing Quicrun 10bl50 that came stock on that SCT
We need some cheap brusless combos out there as I'm sick of ppl go g on about you got to put in a £150./$200 brand name brusless combo I dont have lost cash to spend on motors an esc just because they brand named .
So well done on some cheap items
This is about as cheap as it gets!
It’s kinda slow. I have a brushed motor and it goes faster than that. I was looking for brushless motors but now I’m not so sure I want to upgrade
It’s worth it ! as long as you move up in pinion size, this was running the stock pinion
Those small fans work very well actually
People think going brushless always means faster regardless of voltage. If you have a medium kV motor it wil only go a mile or 2 faster with the same amount of cells as a brushed, only difference will be acceleration. When you go a cell up that's where the big difference will be visible.. or going higher with kv and balancing gearing with that or else the motor will overheat easily.
Esc is just an old copy of HWI81010190 from Hobbywing (often old old stock from Chinese warehouses). Nothing wrong with these ESC's at all. They can do 3s just OK I have seen some people blow theirs up with 4s
How many volts were you running it on? How many teeth on the pinion
Stock 90/16 spur and pinion combo 48p, plus a 2s 4000mah 45c Lipo
@@JacobusRC thanks!
Do you think a 7s nimh could work with this?
A 7 cell Nimh will work with this
Very nice bro .
Wicked set up for the money.
Cheap motors are usually fine but I would always go for like a hobbywing esc or something. Maybe one of the older ones if you're on a budget.
I agree that if you need to invest minimally then you're typically better doing so on the motor. A quality ESC will not only have higher performance but overall reliability, programming and tuning are more comprehensive. I use Castle and related ESCs, meaning the older HPI Vektor ESCs also connect to Castle-Link and allow more tuning options than just using the program card.
Hey dude, you never mentioned what battery you are using, but you can gear way up with brushless if you have LIPOs, it will go a lot better as brushless has higher torque
Yeah I went with the stock pinion it came with so I can compare. Definitely will gear up!
Cogging is a thing
What does gear up mean? Sorry im new to the hobby grade and is thinking about getting this. I have a tamiya dt-02 and was wondering if this will fit
Do you know how fast it will be in a arrma grantie mega
Around the same speed unless you get a bigger pinion
I bought the same things and the esc caught fire so watch out for that because the esc has not temp cut off
Oh dang!!! Yeah no lipo cut off is dangerous, hopefully your rig was spared
is this kind of motor suitable for building Eskate?
No, too small
Use the card it on the default setting
What battery did you have in the car?
Hey man this was a gens ace 2s Lipo 4000mah 45c
Honestly, There are a ton of cheap brushless motors for cheap and 80% of them are actually decent, ESC eh, thats a hard one to trust for under $30 lol
Yeah not sure the savings on your esc is worth it if your build blows up in flames hahaha
i wouldnt really rely on the "the more A rated a combo is, the better your car will be" thing. i have a 45A ESC and a 4390KV motor. a friend of mine has a 80A ESC with a 4300KV motor. and yet my car accelarates faster, and it is only a tad bit slower (around 3mph slower on average). so, i wouldnt really rely on that.
Correct. A is just referring to the amount of power it can deliver from your battery to your motor. (With out burning out)
If your friend got a higher power battery, like a 3s lipo instead of a 2s lipo, for example, It will go significantly faster.
A as in amps? Sorry for the newbie question I just got my first hobby grade RC its a tamiya dt-02. Do you think this will be ok for it? Anything I should know before I go onto brushless?
Wait why my ftx carnage brushless have a brushed motor?
Not sure 🤔 but the FTx carnage looks cool!
@@JacobusRC yea i want to repair it. U can help me with something?
@@JacobusRC i turn it on my ESC it's lighting for a second and after that nothing and when I move the connection from the ESC to reciver it's starting lighting and after is stoping and the engine it's working
The question it's if from reciver or ESC
Maybe you need to calibrate the esc, there are some videos on TH-cam that work for most esc. There should be a set button on your esc you hold down until it blinks, then you adjust your neutral on your remote (don’t touch), click the set button, reverse (move stick to reverse) and click the set, then throttle and click the set button. Turn off and turn on and you should be good
is it already program or not?
You can buy a program card for it
Would this work to upgrade on an RC10T?
Should fit right in I’ve used it on the slash, grasshopper and regular rc10
@@JacobusRC I ordered a quicrun10BL 120 and a reedy 17.5t / but for now I'm just running the old esc and motor, a 2s battery, and a lipo alarm. Seems to work well while I wait. Motor gets a little warm that's it.
Sweet that motor and esc setup you got is much better than the one in the vid here, should be way more reliable too
Hey I have a tamiya dt-02 do you a good brushless combo that will be nice for this?
@@bigwhop136 Most models are workable with a stock 25T - 20T type brushless replacement like a reedy sonic etc.
Just be sure your brushless ESC is about 60 amps so it can handle the brushless motor. The other trick is checking your original motor armature type / original pinion inner diameter to be certain the armature on the new motor is the same diameter as your original pinion inner diameter. Otherwise you'll be buying a new pinion as well.
Amazon has inexpensive Gool RC motor and esc combos that should work if you're just bashing around.
Sounds like a tight mesh on your gears???
Yeah could be, maybe that’s why it only topped out at 21
Do you have to have a receaver or does it com qith it
You’ll need to get one separately
@@JacobusRC ok thanks
Will any transmitter work
Yeah just make sure radio and receiver combo work together
@@JacobusRC ok
3:52 🔥⚡ 😳
Do you just plug it in? Mine isn’t working
Yeah man
the specs of the battery you are using.????
I used a 4000Mah 2s Lipo, I put the link in the description for anyone else interested in the brand in the future
60A is a bit weak depending on your application.
They have same ones up to 140amp
bagaimana jika esc ini dipasangkan di mobil offroad 4wd
ini harus bekerja
@@JacobusRC bagaimana dengan lipo 3s
@@Rosecobain 3s tidak akan bekerja
What max Esc battery support?
2s to be safe
I've bought two of them esc 120a esc few years back and they both fried on 3s in less than 5 minutes I did have a tekin pro 4 motor I think it's called, which is a pretty big motor but 120 should of been okay,
@@dannywalker6279 is it combo for speed?
How about torsion?
@@digeolrc8586 idk I thought they were just rebranded hobby wing cause they looked just like them at that time, hobby wing was all blue but ya they fried quickly. Go with surpass hobby combo you can get for like 40 bucks. Ok series is the best and proven not as good as any
@@dannywalker6279 thanks for information 🙏👍
i got a 4300kv brushless with 60a esc. Also working good.
I bought a Laurel name brand one exactly like this and the motor shaft broke about 2 minutes in on a 2s. Pretty useless.
Dang pretty unlucky. These motors typically hold up better than the esc
Just received this esc, but it burned instantly when it was connected to the power supply. I guess the quality control is really bad on those cheap Chinese esc's.
Yup sorry man heard good and bad
@@JacobusRC Luckily the seller refunded me, should I order a new one and enter the lottery again or should spend more than twice the amount an buy a hobby-wing esc.
Buy used if you can. I just go on Facebook marketplace and hunt some down local to me or eBay
@@JacobusRC Just received my second esc, guess what, it also burned. I only use 2s. I would advise everyone to stay away from this crap and buy something else.
i pulled 43mph on first run on a 60amp 3900kv on a short run my total cost was 32 uk pound....same motor as urs diffrent esc
That’s great, do you know what pinion/spur combo you were using?
@@JacobusRC stock so its 27t pinon and 44t spur with a 0.7 pitch
must add was on a wltoys 144001
Thanks, That’s good to know for anyone else reading. Definitely better suited for a smaller platform like the wltoys
So you’re telling me that a Traxxas slash transmission is compatible with this
Yup
Wrk alot better with program card
You need to raise up the pinion gear and probably get a better ESC while you're at it.
Yeah pinion is holding me back for sure.
Gotta be careful with that motor and esc i had it in my crawler and it Fried and lit on fire that motor will also will Fry any esc i had mine on the same then tested the motor with a side winder 3 and it blew my capacitor off the bord
Yeah heard about that for sure
The battery was holding you back 60a is 3s
Definitely .. I dont think I trust this esc with 3s 😆
You probably shouldn’t
Will it work with a stampede 4x4.
Yeah this should work. Make sure to also increase pinion size too for more speed.
@@JacobusRC so since budget isn't a big issue would a hobbywing system be a better buy with a 3300kv brushless motor I have a rustler 4x4 vxl as my main car buy I want to get my brushed stampede 4x4 going faster.
A hobbywing max10 SCT would be a good choice, heard a lot of good about it
@@JacobusRC yeah I will pick on of them up do I need to change much like tyres drives haft.
You should be good to go with just the motor combo swap, I like to just replace anything after something breaks
I'm looking for a cheap 140 amp ESC
140a esc not too common compared to 120a and 160a I believe. Cheapest 160amp I would probably go with a Hobbyking/Turnigy, but for best results a hobbywing xerun xr10 160amp
Not bullet connectors, banana plugs.
I bought the 120 amp version for a cheap 1/16 TEMU basher so it should be perfect and last
Should of shown what kind of battery you where using like volts and mah
Good shout ... I’ll keep that in mind for next time. For everyone reading: it was a 4000mah 45c 2s LiPo
You think this can handle a 3 cell lipo 11.1v battery
I have this motor on the way with a 11.1v battery and it says max is 12 volts
Any input
The motor will probably be fine, the esc will probably need to be upgraded. This one is pretty cheap. I have not tested on 3s yet
This is not good for that beast, it is good for 1:18 and 1:20 scale, enough power for that scale, i got on my wltoys a959b upgrade, brushless system from surpass hobby, was 40€ and runs cold
You’re right, this setup would probably make a 1-20 scale fly. I’m going to mess around with the gearing on the Slash to see how much juice this setup gives
Brushless 540 is for 1/20? First I've heard of it.
Wltoys is an exception rather than the rule.
540 is the standard for 1/10. I expect this vehicle was just undergeared.
Plenty of videos of rigs running this setup and going twice as fast.
Strange comment.
lol ur rear tires are on backwards
You Get what you pay for.
You are so under-geared. You need at least an 18 to 20 tooth gear. A 3900kv 4-pole motor has torque from HELL. Gear it up and check them temp.
No it's not worth it this thing is compleley trash my 12t does 25mph Stock setup.
If its not faster than the brushed motor what's even the damn point no offense
Yep, doesn’t make sense for this RC but for other lighter ones it does
My stock brushed moter is faster
Yeah the stock one works fine as long as the pinion is above 20 tooth or so
Way under geared
Yep, I think the 86/23 combo from the vxl would be decent
weird vid.
That's a piece of crap. Useless either get a velineon or put a high speed gearing on the regular motor. Atleast the regular still gets up to speed and I don't have to worry about some of the Janky Chinese equipment
All of my bangood cars are way faster and way cheaper
Yep, the gearing ratio changes everything. Unfortunately the slash had some low speed gears at the time I filmed
so slow
Not worth it
I HATE THIS MOTOR!!!!
This is the worst esc and brushless combo ever it's a Sorry excuse for a brushless motor. Has zero torque and horrible top speed, no one will know you have a brushless because your crap will be slower then literally every 8.4v NMHI and Brushed combo.
You liar they are 30 dollars each
Video is two years old man, everything costs more in 2022 than it did in 2020.
I have been looking at it a few months ago and seen this esc ranging from 15 to 30 bucks(that's includes the eu vat).
Eh this is good not bad