‘Who is more morally repugnant: Johnson or Farage?’ | James O'Brien - The Whole Show
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- This is a catch-up version of James O'Brien's live, daily show on LBC Radio from the 25th of June 2024.
00:00 - Who's more morally repugnant: Johnson or Farage
47:55 - Doctors Union taking GMC to court over use of Physician Associates.
02:16:38 - Wikileaks founder Julian Assange leaves UK after plea deal - Alan Rusbridger, editor of Prospect Magazine
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To this day, I fail to understand why MI5 didn't immediately arrest Boris Johnson upon his insistance of placing the son of a KGB agent into the Lords. Merely making the request should have forced his immediate resignation from Parliament.
Are you expecting Mi5 to explain why to you.
Not his only KGB connection either
I'd rather they dealt with him like they did unfortunately did with Dr Kelly
As long as they give money to the Conservative Party
Tories don't care who they hang around with.
@@alexanderstefanov6474 NEVER FORGET!!
I don’t think there is much difference when you look at the damage both of them have done to the UK.
Choosing between Farage and Johnson which one is the most repugnant, is like choosing which is the ugliest, slimiest slug eating your veg garden. Over brexit both of them campaigned to stop fresh food coming from the EU.
Thrush vs piles, mate.
That’s starmer or obrien in a nutshell
It started with Cameron. The cleverest thing the devil did was to persuade people he didn’t exist.
Over-chess bet, not mated.
@@BooshGaming4K-nq7be what?
Not so with Evil OBrien his uncanny resemblance to Peter Sutcliffe is a warning.
Johnson had power and more opportunity to be awful whereas Farage’s awfulness has been limited by his lack of power. But I think if he was given power he would outdo Johnson.
What makes you say that Nigel is awful?
this is like asking which food is more rotten, the pile with the mold on it or the pile with the magots. Morally repugnant is like honesty, there are no degrees of honesty, either you're honest or you're not
One let thousands die while stealing billions, the other wouldn't think twice about doing the same. No doubt Engerlund will make terrible decisions at this vote too, it's what they do
Immorality can graded. All immorality is immoral (obviously), but a mortal sin is obviously worse than venial sin.
They’re both fundamentally dishonest brokers. Johnson is a europhile and farage shorted the uk economy and the pound when we committed harakiri in 2016.
Farage over anyone on the left by a long mile
They were in league with each other, they all have been - there's no daylight between them..
It's like having to choose between a bucket of cold sick or a bucket of diarrhoea.
Why is it so hard to answer this question? The damage both these characters have done to the UK is unimaginable and will be with us for a long time
So Farage is more consistent in his awfulness?
More by design
Farage fans often say he does what he says. He says a lot but what has he actually done?
It really helps to be in power. Even then it can be a struggle to actually get things done with things having to get passed by Parliament and then the house of Lords. But a least Nigel is a straight talker and has clear and difine ideas unlike the other wishy-washy leaders.
Polluted The Water .
@@danielbarrass4402We can only judge what Farage would do in power from the basis of his history and manifesto. His history shows him to be a liar and charlatan, his manifesto is batshit crazy and would lead to even further ruination of the country.
Took us out of that wannabe undemocratic and thoroughly corrupt superstate?
@@martinobrien7110 we can make better laws.
James , Your replies show there are a great number of people who admire liars and fascists , or anyone who gets away with illegality.
Have a day off
Word salad.
@@billysastard8779Which is exactly the strategy of people like Johnson/Farage. Liars and charlatans will offer simplistic answers to complicated questions in an effort to appeal to the uneducated.
Both are embarrassing stains on the English Political Landscape
The English voters have blood on their hands, for decades now
It's absolutely terrifying to have untrained or fully qualified people treating people. Hire the doctors that have been sacked
??????
You are discussing the difference between 🐶 💩 by breed of the dog. They are both 🐶 💩 irregardless the breed of the dog.
I find this whole Farage / Ukraine thing a bit odd. I mean, it is possible to totally condemn Putin's illegal invasion whilst ALSO acknowledging that it is NOT beyond the realm that the West MIGHT have poked the bear. It doesn't seem that implausible. People seem to be seeing this in a somewhat one dimensional way.
Yeah, don't provoke the school bully. Brilliant advice.
Provocation is not an excuse for invading a sovereign state. It's BS anyway. Eastern Europe doesn't want anything to be under Russian control. It provides them neither security nor prosperity.
@@jammysmears4077 Or better still, don't agree to the aggressive Western Alliance NATO to encroach right up up to the borders of a country that lost 27 million people to a European aggressor in WW2.
I see Farage has his paid bots out in the comments.
Behave yourself luv
What do you expect from Lbc listener's? @@SmilingAnglerfish-oj9id
@@SmilingAnglerfish-oj9id luv? Is that the way Love is spelt in Moscow?
I'm not paid. So you don't like a man who has taken us away from European fascism?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Q: What's the difference between Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson?
A: The bucket.
Is this a reference I don't know about, or am I being - too much - my autism diagnosis? What? :P
@@marknugent9851 Don't worry, it's quite an old fashioned reference to an old fashioned joke. It takes some prior knowledge and a bit of lateral thinking. Basically the original joke was Q: What's the difference between 'this politician' and a bucket of something smelly and unpleasant? (You can use your imagination as to what's in the bucket) A: The bucket. So I'm basically saying either Johnson or Farage is a "bucket of something smelly" and the difference between the two is the bucket. Hope that makes sense. 🙂
@@electronraygun6346 Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining 💩
But worse than those two are those that back them to the hilt - they wouldn't survive without them.
i'd say it was a draw
James (I could be wrong) O'Brien still crying about Farage, bless! 😂
Both are court jesters at best, and an embarrassment to the UK, who are already the laughing stock of the world to begin with.
Laughing stock to the world ahh did we hurt your family is that why you talk trash does it still hurt
Yes we have been laughing since 2021 😂🍿
@@larsbjrnson3101just remember that half of us are quite decent and we’d be laughing with you if we didn’t have to suffer the consequences of the other half.
@@paramotorheadI'm laughing at the other part, and I feel bad for Scotland too. It really is sad you are all dragged down by this and I'm aware nobody born after 1998 have had a choice in the matter.
@@larsbjrnson3101 I understand. It’s truly awful to live in Britain after 14 years of this corrupt government, especially as I can’t really escape from it now because of Brexit. Which I had planned to do as soon as possible.
In this fight, I'm rooting for injuries.
Serious injuries, A&E serious.
Two sides of the same backside?
A "backside" has a useful purpose, though.
Two chocolate starfish
Great point James, one is a professional performer, the other a professional heckler, love it!!
Farage the Heckler, pound for pound, would wipe the floor with any British MP
Both are stains on our country
It’s like Fred West calling Shipman an evil bstrd.
I am getting a better idea of why many women say they would rather meet a bear than a man in a forest.
@Frithogar •Now I am concerned someone made you meet Farage and Or Bojo I threatened to do a die in over my Epilepsy meds -But the mere thought of Kiss of life 🫦 by Boris -Nah I skip it spend my hours looking for 3 X epilepsy meds …
Or a bare man ?
I did naughty things at school...but no racism!
"Repugnant"...the exact word i have continually labelled johnson since he became PM.
Don't forget the uk applauded him for decades. What does that say about the uk public?
No mention of 700,000 dead men which tells me everything i need to know and that im on the wrong channel.
Nah banning the English flag in England is wild.
Its close, but my vote goes to clown shoes Johnson.
Been pondering this all day but Johnson just pips the Fuhrer in repugnancy simply because Farage doesn't try to hide his lack of a moral compass.
I Despise this man and the show, it's going.......
As an American I am riveted to hear this!
Is it clever evil vs dumb evil?
1:37:25 The problem with these Scout's badge doctors is they don't know what they don't know and if anything out of the ordinary happens they're lost.
Like any kind of corner cutting, it works right until it doesn't.
I can understand where some of the PAs and RNs are coming from but I think I’d prefer to see a full trained doctor and the line between “this requires a doctors care” and “a medical professional other than a doctor can take care of this” needs to be drawn.
Some of these non physicians seem offended at the implication they aren’t competent but it’s not a matter of competence it’s a matter of degrees.
A GP for example can be fully trained but not qualified to conduct spinal surgery.
There needs to be a clear distinction between being qualified to diagnose general patients and being qualified to assist in specific areas that don’t require a specialised medical training.
It's strange Johnson's starting to look more like Trump with a each passing day with that freakish hairdo
Oh true equals although I despise Farage for longer
Why is Farage morally bankrupt? He has given an opinion. He is not glorifying Putin or Russia. His opinion is no different from many others.
you really need to think again, and in a little more depth my friend!!! Farage is EVIL and cares only for himself ( I feel confident that eventually we will find out that he was bankrolled by Putin to cause trouble in EU in order for him to march into Ukraine and take it over!!!)
Revolting has both these individuals . However it was on only Johnson watch that so many people died during the covid period and the lies told to the British public and parliament . So Boris the delinquent.
1:37:36 Who underwrites the decisions & diagnoses of the lesser-qualified and cheaper staff member?
The regional health authority? The health service, nationally? The individual who was health minister at the time…?🤔
Thankyou.
'Morally repugnant' is ridiculous hyperbole. This O'Brien fellow just makes a living out of this nonsense.
The standard of Russia n bots is amazing 👏 They even spell poorly and use CAPs (on) and flags. 🇬🇧
yep, they've absolutely swamped the place, happily comments and upvotes here are not votes in a GE
Porridge Johnson or batrocoidal farage. The evil of 2 lessers.. I'd say farage... Something of the own-uniform wearing, 'militia-group meeting in a forest & firing old rifles' Moseleyite about him. Why do these callers use first names as if they know them? Eli was a bit dim wasn't he?
Incredibly well put by Francis, I was just about to type something to that effect when his call came through.
nothing to choose between them!
Love farage... vote reform..we need to be freed from muslim rule
Johnson he said Scots should be ethnically cleansed
Both are morally reprehensible and dangerous for the fact they both command a strong following with their supporters that latch on to both despite the multiple evidence that both are strangers to the truth and use their popularity for their own self gratification and aggrandisement. How anyone can genuinely believe either says something about their supporters. There is enough evidence regarding these two and who they support that should make any sensible person run a mile.
Most of the pas i know were sprcialist nurses who then did additional training most are used for the taking bloods follow up infirmation, giving following a consultant meeting. It is a cost cutting thing we can't get away from it
Physician associates are basically pcso's of the medical profession, cheaper and under qualified.
What’s the difference??
Bodge way worse for knowing the repugnance of his machivellian pursuit of self aggrandisement at any cost, and he still chooses immorality.😮
The third choice should have been billionaire Ritchie Sunak with his broken promise of "government integrity, professionalism and accountability" - he easily wins.
First of All , PA AA are not doctors, never been to medical school.. secondly, the psychiatrist has got no clue about this issue and safety / legalities sbout it, and the reason psychiatrists dont have PAs. All she was talking about is sge was seen by a PA and she had an amazing experience. Just one question to ask everybody , would you let a 2 years trained non doctor treat you or somebody who spent 5 years in medical school and 5-7 years in extensive rigorous training ? You All know the answer. Stop messing up please.
Keep crying leftys.
I wish LBC would put time stamps in their videos
They do
@@DiogoSalazarI swear it wasn’t there when I commented
I'm only interested in Joe Biden s signature, so I'll be fine!
this like mom and dad fighting and kids has to pick a side..
In America they mostly use ARNP (Advance Nurse Practitioners) PA((Physician Assistant) they and the nurses do most of the work and report to the doctors and then the doctor may see the patient if the patient request to see them or if the patient has something acutely going on with the patient.
The UK PAs are no where near the level of training of American PAs (also plenty of American doctors don’t agree with their PAs either)
Judge someone by who they have as Friends such as Steve Bannon & Alex Jones.
Highlighted by the Guardian with video recordings
O'Brien always looks like he's trying to hide behind his microphone.
Both
a draw 0 0 or it could be farage because he is a supporter of trump
Why is this question relevant unless you have nothing else to say today, get a proper job
many think both are wonderful
Sorry why cant black cabs display England flags ?
Because Boris Johnson introduced a law banning it.
They can
Because Boris johnson introduced a law as London Mayor saying they shouldn't.
Stay At Home Save Lives....😷
Right The Cammeras (sic) Have Gone Lets Party 🎉 🍾
Fantastic 5 - 5 score draw between Johnson &. Farage as to who is more morally repugnant . Far better than watching.turjid England .
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England was Nil - Nil
Johnson v Farridge is Zero - Zero.
Johnson because he knows better
My sister was seen for 2.5 years by a GP who kept prescribing her pain killers for a trapped nerve in her shoulder, turns out it was stage 4 lung cancer and she died earlier this year. If associates can help with 'minor' issues then GPs might have more time to do their job properly
Im a GP who works with PAs. I agree we would love more time with patients. But I would argue serious problems can present as “minor illness” initially. Highly trained experienced doctors can miss these so the solution isn’t to replace them with poorly trained PAs.
@@akhan1892I agree, but what is the solution to ensure GPs aren't just 'processing' people. In our local surgery the GPs are flat out and can't get you out of there fast enough. The fact is GPs are failing. If we need so many more that it would take 10 years to fix the problem, we need an interim solution or more people are going to die needlessly. The NHS in the UK has become so bad that the only solution at the moment is, don't get sick. My son has been on a waiting list for 2 years (he is 9 years old) and all we get is letters saying sorry 'it's the strikes fault'.
@@TheGaryinWales “processing people”. What do you think PAs are doing? It’s quantity over quality. On paper more patients are being seen but actually they’re making more mistakes (I’ve had to mop up the PAs mistakes). It also adds way more work for the whole system as GPs have to supervise them, do their prescriptions and X-rays, also they’re quality of hospital referrals are worse / inappropriate referrals are higher so clogs up the hospital system and actually makes the waiting list longer. They’re a false economy.
@@TheGaryinWales the solution is to
1- increase the number of training jobs for actually doctors (which have not increased in 10years) so we can hire more of them
2- end rotational doctors training so we don’t have to move hospitals every 4-6months and actually get trained properly
3- get rid of the ARRS funding scheme in GP so practices can hire actual doctors and nurses (currently they are not allowed to use that funding to hire actual GPs or nurses, so are hiring PAs instead because it’s cheaper)
@@TheGaryinWales also it’s definitely not the strikes fault. Resident doctors have only been striking for the last year but waiting lists shot up way before then. That’s just flat Tory lies. And if doctors don’t change the system now you’ll end up with a the end of the NHS and a 2tier system where poor people will not be able to afford private healthcare.
There all shills.
Looking forward to LBC indepth analysis into the morals of Starmer, Lammy, Miliband and Thornberry......
Oh that woman seems like she is on her horse back holding up the village with her posh hobby
Why does it have to be 'either/or'?
Both as bad as each other
I’m going to say by a whisker Boris is less morally repugnant.
He isn’t a climate change denier and he did in the end oppose the full scale invasion of Ukraine in a meaningful way.
I don’t think Farage has any redeeming qualities.
regarding Ukraine, if they join the NATO pact where does that leave the Crimean peninsular? The only access Russia has to the Black Sea?
Huge question, I know!
Leaving Russia holding crimea means we have no access to the black sea ??
Novorossiya is a deeper port than Sevastopol. It's where the tankers refill. Don't you know that? You don't have control of the Black Sea anyway. You rely on an international treaty protecting the freedom of passage into and out of the Black Sea through the Bosporus and Dardanelle Straits.
Doesn't Far AH ge sound a lot more like he came over in a boat?
At least people have garridges in most parts of suburbia built Post-war.
Okay I make a suggestion. Could you please just start streaming this when the show is actually on cuz I would rather just watch it when the show is on instead of waiting till later when you post it at like 10:00 at night.
nah. It's best like this. The ads and the newsbreaks are edited out. This is useful.
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence that's fine. you just don't watch the live one if they do it. simple.
Who is the most repugnant asks the most repugnant of presenters
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WOW......just WOW...........O'Brien is the most morally repugnant journalist in the history of broadcasting. Just ask Carl Beech's victims.
Below Jimmy Saville they are both saints.
Just commenting on the title here: Johnson is indeed morally repugnant (I don't think anyone would dispute that). Farage is just speaking for a [growing] minority with some legitimate concerns. I don't see how a reasonable comparison can be drawn. And I say that as a traditional lefty who is really worried by Starmer's Labour. I don't like Farage's POV, generally speaking, but Johnson has proved himself utterly repugnant.
And the question must be asked: why is Farage making wins, and the general rise in the populist right in the West happening? It's a reaction to and a symptom of a total loss of faith in politics and mainstream politicians. You watch, Trump will get a second term and Reform will be the opposition. Well done everybody! smh
I have a similar view, but I think right-wing so-called populism is salient for deeper reasons.
Is that you Vlad?
@@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph Why is someone's different view to your own an endorsement of someone you also disagree with.
@@jonathandnicholson why not?
Well said comrade! Vote Яeform 🇷🇺
Where does Blair fit into this, as you are mentioning morally repugnant politicians !
A pair of chancers
It's Spiders-Man
I reckon you can add George Galloway to that comparison
Six of one and half dozen of the other.
Easy, that would be O'boring...
They're both awful, just in different flavours. But then, I can't say either Rishi or Keir strike me as incredibly moral individuals either.
What's wrong with Keir Starmers morals I think you're just jumping on the bandwagon
@@PatrickWhelan-sp1thTo which Starmer would say, "I do have morals! Many many morals, and if you don't like the ones I'm offering, I have plenty of others."
@@mickreaddin4979 Trite
You’re some sort of. You c
So these P As are just like 'ask jeves'.
And wheres your evidence for your venn diagram O'Brien. Come on, back up your statement like you insist other people should.
Youre only quoting the Daily Mail because it suits your agenda. Again, where is your evidence for this?
Daily Mail is archived and readable, if you of that inclination, or bent.
Farage wins 😮