@Joseph Stalin. I think he meant to say that it was referred to without a 'determiner' ...... EG 'theres Concorde' as opposed to 'there a Concorde' ..... that was never the case with other planes
I remembered watching the concord take off and climbing out of Singapore Paya Lebar Airport (Singapore's international airport back then) at ard 11+am (I think it was every Thursday) while waiting for my school bus back then...and everytime I wish that the school bus would arrive just late enough after the concord had taken off. Somehow I don't remember catching it coming in. And till now, I still feel it is the most graceful and beautiful plane ever existed.
I did and do... When I went to see the USS Intrepid in Manhattan (which I suggest anyone do) pay the $10 and pretend it's one of our own on loan to the yanks! I know I did... Sit in seat 1A aka The Queen's seat on the concorde... That's the closest I'd ever been or wanted to be to royalty, TBH...
@@skyserf Yeah the MF's of CDG sent an overweight marvel downwind! Having 4km can be a disadvantage! Heathrow with their baby strip would have looked at the wind!
Didn't knew that Air India was also in this list. Wish if it had purchased Concorde. I would've spent my entire savings to fly on one. Also it would've looked gorgeous in old air India livery.
I think the names are more related to who built them instead of when they were built. The British seem to love giving their planes proper names like Concorde, Spitifire, Comet, Lancaster, etc.
I thought I'd see what sort of story you'd come up with on this. Pretty good. If the operating costs (actually always high with Concorde) caused them to cancel orders before the first energy crisis, that would have caused them to cancel. Pan Am announced its first options on Concorde the day before Kennedy announced the SST program, which wasn't officially in the bag for Boeing for another three years. It started with three airframe manufacturers, Boeing, Lockheed, and North American. One had never built a production airliner. The other two hadn't actually built something supersonic as big as an SST. There were three engine manufacturers vying for a separate development contract for engines, General Electric, Pratt and Whitney, and Curtiss-Wright, the last of these thinking their engines would add an extra thousand miles of range to the SST. What we got was essentially Murphy's Law at work. Choosing Boeing, in the end, caused enough delays to allow the forces in opposition to the SST to win. I'd add that the American ban on supersonic flight overland came conveniently at a point where it was known that there would be no American SST. Sour grapes?
Big organised protests outside JFK back in the 1970's against Concorde. Concorde wasn't so much cancelled by ALL the operators who had options, no, it was discontinued due to the inability to service those orders that were for over 100 airframes initially and expecting to rise to 300 to 400 orders. They were going to sub contract on the quiet from the Russians but even these people, the world's best aerodynamisists and aircraft cloners couldn't produce anything that would pass muster. Hence the entire project was cancelled and the small number of existing airframes were pushed into service with just the two national carriers.
Thanks for the video, anything on Concorde is welcome. Disappointing & remiss of you not to mention Singapore Airlines operation of a Concorde when one was even painted in SIA livery, on one side at least.
She is the most beautiful aircraft ever designed, end of. What makes me exceptionally proud is that she was conceived, born and built in Great Britain. Those Rolls Royce Olympus engines were absolutely magnificent and the sound that came from them was truly phenomenal. Interesting point......... she shared the same power plants as the brilliant Avro Vulcan bomber.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Options not orders. They realized they could not make any money with it. BA and Air France got theirs very cheap thanks to a deal with the manufacturer, just so someone would fly it.
Ryan Turner Agreed - what a shame the arrangement did not work out and provide mutual benefit to both airlines. How different long haul travel could have become?
If only the Concorde had been around a decade earlier, then we would've seen it in multiple different liveries other than Air France and British Airways.
Im pretty sure British Airways, Air France, Singapore Airlines (x1 airframe) and Braniff were the only companys to fly Concorde Commercially....Braniff rented an Airfrance aircraft return from Washington to Dallas..
Well.......There are a few factors that killed Concorde but what annoys me the most is the fact that Boeing had a big influence on the American aircraft industry and the US Government and they coerced them both into banning Concorde from being sold in their Country. How do I know this? I just do and what pissed me off is Boeing was frantically lobbying officials into killing the supersonic aircraft. They tried to do a similar thing with Airbus aircraft and the Bombardier C series, which turned into the Airbus A220. Airbus were smart enough to counter this by building plants in the States so they got around it but back then, they didn't know better.
BOAC optioned 6 Aircraft. BOAC ordered 5 aircraft in 1972, Air France optioned 6 , in 1972 they ordered 4. CAAC and IRANAIR ordered an additional 5 aircraft which where built, however they where never delivered, they where given by the UK and French Governments to Air France/British Airways in 1980, making a total of 14 production aircraft, 7 to BA, 7 to Air France. ( plus 2 prototypes, 2 development aircraft, 2 pre production aircraft).Totalling 20 Concorde aircraft. There where 74 Concordes optioned by 18 airlines. Most options where cancelled by late spring 1973.
Anyone think if Lockheed actually got choosen to make the supersonic aircraft,maybe they could actually do it as well they are in that industry well not comercial buy you should get what I mean.
Maybe true, but it seems that Lockheed wasn't really successful for passenger aircraft. Maybe yes they could build their own supersonic passenger plane and outperform the Concorde, but market for supersonic pax plane with old technology has already gone. So unless they came with greener technology and much less noisy than Concorde, then Lockheed will be successful but for how much expensivei the project will be?
Boeing produced the F-15, F/A-18, and the growler, some of the most popular fighter jets to ever be created, so they have/had plenty of experience with supersonic airplanes. The only reason that the 2707 never came to market is because the US government cut their funding of the program due to public sentiment of Sonic booms and Boeings lack of trust in sales if it had to fund the remaining development themselves.
Douglas Forsyth The F15 was designed by McDonnell Douglas, the F/A 18 was designed by Northrop, the growler is a version of the F18. MCD had an arrangement with Northrop on production sharing of the F18 that went awry and resulted in MCD pretty much taking over resulting in a hefty lawsuit. Boeing came to put its name to these products because of its takeover of MCD.
MEA: I remember when the Concorde landed in Beirut International Airport in July 1973; exciting prospects at the time. It would have been great if things went well and MEA had kept the order, but....
You’d think there could at least be overland corridors for Concord to fly supersonic. Like over the western USA and the far north of Canada. I hope the Boom project is more successful
It would have suited Air Canada well given the size of our country, imagine Vancouver to Toronto in 2 hours?? Too bad there were over-land restrictions.
It was necessary to comment on one of the companies that made orders for the Concord, which was Panair do Brasil. It was more precisely the fourth order of the plane in 1963, as a replacement for an old order of the supersonic plane from Sud-Aviation. The most interesting thing is that Panair's plan was very different from the others, while BOAC, Air France and Panam thought of using the plane over long distances, Panair had in mind to make a supersonic air bridge between Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires. The order was for 5 planes. And it was undone in 1965 when the comania was closed by the Brazilian military dictatorship because it was owned by people linked to the opposition.
Also an Irrelevant Fact: PAL would might order 4 Concordes to operate on potential US flights and Europe flights but The Oil crisis of 1973 stopped the 4 possible PAL orders So PAL ordered the DC-10 instead.
Imagine a CCP politician arriving in a modernized Concorde, would out class a heavily modified 747. I remember reading how French presidents bragged about arriving on Concordes during international meetings
Abonniert ohne Grund China had no industrial capacities to build Concorde at the time. China did however mass produce licensed MD90s shortly before McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing, after which Boeing decided to withdraw manufacturing there. Airbus currently operates a plant in China responsible for building A320neo and ceos for the Asian-Pacific market, as well as an aircraft completion center for A330s. Boeing has a similar plant in China for the 737 Max aircraft.
Concorde could of been a great success had some of these options turned into firm orders and delivery, Pity Air France poor maintenance contributed towards the crash of this magnificent aircraft, Airbus withdrawing the certificate of airworthness was the wrong decision, BA could have continued to operate Concorde at a profit.
It was a bit more complicated than Airbus simply deciding to withdrawing the certificate of airworthiness. Older machines become more expensive to maintain. Air France retired their Concorde fleet & not all of BA's had the post-2001 modifications, so the number still flying was very small. Such a small fleet made the craft much more expensive to maintain so Airbus therefore increased the cost of their maintenance contract. At the right price they would have continued until the airframes had expired but this price was too high for BA to continue operating it.
Concorde could never fly to Singapore non stop. It didn’t have the range. For instance you do not mention that British Airways were operating Concorde’s in a collaboration with Singapore Airlines. The aircraft refueled and changed crews in Bahrain. One side of the aircraft was in BA colours and the other painted SIA. India would not allow Concorde to fly supersonically over its territory due to the sonic boom, although I am sure if Air India had bought the supersonic jet, this would not have been a problem. Flying to Singapore non stop on a 747-400 from 1989 onwards ended the viability of Concorde on the route. The Air France crash showed how vulnerable Concorde was to poor airmanship and maintenance, even though a metal strip on the runway caused the initial problem. Rudders would de-laminate occasionally and losing an engine in the cruise was quite a big event. Unlike the TU144, Concorde did not require reheat to maintain a supersonic speed. Concorde like the HS Trident, would be unlikely to be certified by the CAA today. BA pilots flying Concorde were handpicked and were the best. You did not simp,y become a Concorde pilot through choice or seniority. Even though BA and AF only had 14 Concorde’s between them, there were quite a few serious incidents not widely known. One AF Concorde had a nasty tail scrape out of Dakar, and a BA aircraft ran out of fuel at Heathrow whilst taxying from the runway. I am sure that if more airlines had operated Concorde, it would have been grounded eventually due to accidents simply caused by pilot error. This was not a forgiving aircraft to fly.
Quoting www.heritageconcorde.com: “The retractable tail bumper wheel was designed to protect the rear of Concorde during takeoff and landing, since she needed a high angle of attack to optimise lift from her delta wing.”
Valentin Svensberg it’s entirely relevant! A Concorde was even painted on one side in Singapore Airlines livery. If Braniff was included in the video, SIA surely rated a mention.
StanTheLegoMan Yep indeed, but one Concorde enter service with the half of the plane painted in the Singapore airline livery and with and the Oder half with the British airways livery... So Singapore airline deserve a shoutout as the did have the half of a Concorde in their fleet...
Good video 📹: new information. The French 🇫🇷 should never have allowed the Russians 🇷🇺 plane to fly from Paris. The plane , Konkordski. that looked identical to Concorde, crashed violently in Paris. Konkordski Tu144, was obviously badly made. Nevertheless, the reputation was damaged 💔 for the Anglo -French Concorde. 'Look, all supersonic planes are dangerous!' Orders tumbled.
The Tu 144 was meant to fill the hundreds of orders worldwide for Concorde. The old bait and switch but it didn't pass muster so it had to have a high profile demise to end the deliveries contract and deter the Russians from going it alone.
I always wonder who owns the plans to Concorde, it would be interesting to take the exact same design, change out the fuselage for the most advanced materials we have no, and best engines etc, I wonder what the economics of that plane would look like.
Not sure it would be possible to clone a Concorde even today. They couldn't do it back in the day, that is for sure. They tried with the Tu 144 but that fell short by a country mile resulting in the cancellation of worldwide super sonic transport back in the 1970's.
Another secret of the Concorde is Lego has made a model airplane out of 2000 pieces of Legos for under 200 buck or Euros! Not made for kids! Have fun, and good luck, some will need it!
@@arashrajab8919 British airways painted half of their livery in singapore airlines scheme, It wasnt an official but it at least got painted. Braniff had one aswell for only a year
The spatial bit in aero spatial is pronounced "spassial" not "spashial". Oh, and it should be "*which* airlines had orders for the supersonic jet" not "what airlines".
One of those entities who ordered Concordes could have also changed the future of supersonic flight... They would have reverse-engineered it, made multiple copies, and passed them off as their own.
@@gr8cescale they ordered in 1977 they still have the plane an sit is in the Singapore art museum .... I have seen it . They used to fly routes from London to Singapore and to Los Angeles .They stopped because of the complaints from neighbouring countries
The Ads Person The plane isn’t in Singapore. It continued to fly for British Airways after, as you said, complaints from neighbouring countries (and bad economics) stopped the SIA service. The aircraft is on display at the Intrepid Sea-Air Space Museum in New York.
I wish the Lockheed Martin supersonic was built. They built the sr-71 so I think that if they got federal money to help them build it like Boeing we might have supersonic flights today.
Such a stunning aircraft. How many other aircraft are known just by the name, ‘There is Concorde’, not a 747, or an A380. Just There is Concorde!.
Indeed, nice observation
@Joseph Stalin. yes
Joseph Stalin. Spitfire, raptor,warthog.etc
@Joseph Stalin. I think he meant to say that it was referred to without a 'determiner' ...... EG 'theres Concorde' as opposed to 'there a Concorde' ..... that was never the case with other planes
@Joseph Stalin. 😅
I remember seeing a Concorde with BA livery on one side and Singapore Airlines on the other at Heathrow in 1978
Woah what more details
That was one of my favourite specials ever
Damnnnn Malaysia for destroying the route =(((
I remembered watching the concord take off and climbing out of Singapore Paya Lebar Airport (Singapore's international airport back then) at ard 11+am (I think it was every Thursday) while waiting for my school bus back then...and everytime I wish that the school bus would arrive just late enough after the concord had taken off. Somehow I don't remember catching it coming in. And till now, I still feel it is the most graceful and beautiful plane ever existed.
That's G-BOAD
Would have suited Qantas, but the jet is too noisy and the high cost of fuel in the 70's made it a giant WHITE ELEPHANT
What a surprise seeing you here! I used to watch your mad bomber series long back!
A Concorde in Air Canada livery isn't something I thought I needed until now. The current AC livery would probably look absolutely badass on it.
I did and do... When I went to see the USS Intrepid in Manhattan (which I suggest anyone do) pay the $10 and pretend it's one of our own on loan to the yanks! I know I did... Sit in seat 1A aka The Queen's seat on the concorde... That's the closest I'd ever been or wanted to be to royalty, TBH...
How about SAS ?
It took just one faulty repair of a DC10 to bring the Concorde to its knees. so sad...
DC10s and faulty repairs? Sounds familiar...
That wasn’t the _only_ break in the chain.
@@skyserf Yeah the MF's of CDG sent an overweight marvel downwind! Having 4km can be a disadvantage! Heathrow with their baby strip would have looked at the wind!
Concorde was doomed to fail the day it was proposed
@@Plab1402 Yes, because they couldn't satisfy the export orders.
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No, I didn't even imagine this. Would any of these airlines have their orders come true, the Concorde dream would've been different.
Didn't knew that Air India was also in this list. Wish if it had purchased Concorde. I would've spent my entire savings to fly on one. Also it would've looked gorgeous in old air India livery.
Would have been a great fleet for the National carrier.
Thanks for the piece of information.🤝
@Tripsathi thanks I didn't knew that.
@@sushimmukul6656 Yeah... It would've perfectly served as a VIP transport. Imagine one our Prime minister or President disembarking from one.
What's ironic is that no more modern planes have such an elegant name
"THE MAJESTIC *CONCORDE*"
I think the names are more related to who built them instead of when they were built. The British seem to love giving their planes proper names like Concorde, Spitifire, Comet, Lancaster, etc.
Concorde: Absolutely the best looking passenger plane ever built.
Totally agree mate...... 100%.
787 looks better 🤷🏾♂️
Other than the DC-3.
Alongside the DC-6
Super Connie !!
I thought I'd see what sort of story you'd come up with on this. Pretty good. If the operating costs (actually always high with Concorde) caused them to cancel orders before the first energy crisis, that would have caused them to cancel.
Pan Am announced its first options on Concorde the day before Kennedy announced the SST program, which wasn't officially in the bag for Boeing for another three years. It started with three airframe manufacturers, Boeing, Lockheed, and North American. One had never built a production airliner. The other two hadn't actually built something supersonic as big as an SST. There were three engine manufacturers vying for a separate development contract for engines, General Electric, Pratt and Whitney, and Curtiss-Wright, the last of these thinking their engines would add an extra thousand miles of range to the SST. What we got was essentially Murphy's Law at work. Choosing Boeing, in the end, caused enough delays to allow the forces in opposition to the SST to win.
I'd add that the American ban on supersonic flight overland came conveniently at a point where it was known that there would be no American SST. Sour grapes?
Big organised protests outside JFK back in the 1970's against Concorde. Concorde wasn't so much cancelled by ALL the operators who had options, no, it was discontinued due to the inability to service those orders that were for over 100 airframes initially and expecting to rise to 300 to 400 orders. They were going to sub contract on the quiet from the Russians but even these people, the world's best aerodynamisists and aircraft cloners couldn't produce anything that would pass muster. Hence the entire project was cancelled and the small number of existing airframes were pushed into service with just the two national carriers.
Thanks for the video, anything on Concorde is welcome. Disappointing & remiss of you not to mention Singapore Airlines operation of a Concorde when one was even painted in SIA livery, on one side at least.
G-BOAD
www.simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-concorde-fate/amp/
She is the most beautiful aircraft ever designed, end of. What makes me exceptionally proud is that she was conceived, born and built in Great Britain. Those Rolls Royce Olympus engines were absolutely magnificent and the sound that came from them was truly phenomenal.
Interesting point......... she shared the same power plants as the brilliant Avro Vulcan bomber.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Origin unknown.
Actually the passenger cabin of TU-144 was more comfortable than the Concord’s one.
Great video well done
My friend introduced this channel to me and every single video interests me!
Its interesting that 6 American airlines ordered Concorde
Options not orders. They realized they could not make any money with it. BA and Air France got theirs very cheap thanks to a deal with the manufacturer, just so someone would fly it.
Pan Am placing options for Concorde was what started the competition in America if I recall correctly
I remember Singapore Airlines had a Concorde
www.simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-concorde-fate/amp/
@@andrewdeans8520 thank you
Mrbimdrummer you're welcome
@@andrewdeans8520 'twas leased from BA Afaik
Ryan Turner Agreed - what a shame the arrangement did not work out and provide mutual benefit to both airlines. How different long haul travel could have become?
Such a beautiful aircraft. I had the privilege of flying on one to New York in the 80’s.
If only the Concorde had been around a decade earlier, then we would've seen it in multiple different liveries other than Air France and British Airways.
Im pretty sure British Airways, Air France, Singapore Airlines (x1 airframe) and Braniff were the only companys to fly Concorde Commercially....Braniff rented an Airfrance aircraft return from Washington to Dallas..
Singapore livery was only on the plane for a ba london to Singapore route.
G-BOAD
www.simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-concorde-fate/amp/
Don't forget Pepsi
Think Braniff may also have rented off of BA.
3:33 Whisper jet. Little did they know the 727 was one of the loudest 60's era jets in the world.
Tris Trance 😂. That’s Boeing for you!
@@bokhans LOL.
Even with the hush kits those jets were still loud. Beautiful jets though
Well.......There are a few factors that killed Concorde but what annoys me the most is the fact that Boeing had a big influence on the American aircraft industry and the US Government and they coerced them both into banning Concorde from being sold in their Country. How do I know this? I just do and what pissed me off is Boeing was frantically lobbying officials into killing the supersonic aircraft.
They tried to do a similar thing with Airbus aircraft and the Bombardier C series, which turned into the Airbus A220. Airbus were smart enough to counter this by building plants in the States so they got around it but back then, they didn't know better.
That was a beautiful butter landing
What a shame! I would have loved to have seen the Concorde draped in the QANTAS livery.
0:20 Did anyone notice this guy?
Lmao
Omg lol XD
Weirdly, not until you mentioned it 😂
I remember when i first laid my eyes on Concorde when I was 11 at JFK while taxing in a TWA 767 on my way to SJU.
BOAC optioned 6 Aircraft. BOAC ordered 5 aircraft in 1972, Air France optioned 6 , in 1972 they ordered 4. CAAC and IRANAIR ordered an additional 5 aircraft which where built, however they where never delivered, they where given by the UK and French Governments to Air France/British Airways in 1980, making a total of 14 production aircraft, 7 to BA, 7 to Air France. ( plus 2 prototypes, 2 development aircraft, 2 pre production aircraft).Totalling 20 Concorde aircraft. There where 74 Concordes optioned by 18 airlines. Most options where cancelled by late spring 1973.
You took this information from mustard. Mustard nailed it with its concorde documentary.
.-.
Could you make a video about the BAe 146/Avro RJ? It was a very cool plane and deserves a mention.
Anyone think if Lockheed actually got choosen to make the supersonic aircraft,maybe they could actually do it as well they are in that industry well not comercial buy you should get what I mean.
Maybe true, but it seems that Lockheed wasn't really successful for passenger aircraft. Maybe yes they could build their own supersonic passenger plane and outperform the Concorde, but market for supersonic pax plane with old technology has already gone. So unless they came with greener technology and much less noisy than Concorde, then Lockheed will be successful but for how much expensivei the project will be?
Boeing produced the F-15, F/A-18, and the growler, some of the most popular fighter jets to ever be created, so they have/had plenty of experience with supersonic airplanes. The only reason that the 2707 never came to market is because the US government cut their funding of the program due to public sentiment of Sonic booms and Boeings lack of trust in sales if it had to fund the remaining development themselves.
Douglas Forsyth The F15 was designed by McDonnell Douglas, the F/A 18 was designed by Northrop, the growler is a version of the F18. MCD had an arrangement with Northrop on production sharing of the F18 that went awry and resulted in MCD pretty much taking over resulting in a hefty lawsuit. Boeing came to put its name to these products because of its takeover of MCD.
I am from India and I wish if air India would really get this machine
MEA: I remember when the Concorde landed in Beirut International Airport in July 1973; exciting prospects at the time. It would have been great if things went well and MEA had kept the order, but....
this vidio is actully underated
3:52 best part of video
You’d think there could at least be overland corridors for Concord to fly supersonic. Like over the western USA and the far north of Canada. I hope the Boom project is more successful
It would have suited Air Canada well given the size of our country, imagine Vancouver to Toronto in 2 hours?? Too bad there were over-land restrictions.
It was necessary to comment on one of the companies that made orders for the Concord, which was Panair do Brasil.
It was more precisely the fourth order of the plane in 1963, as a replacement for an old order of the supersonic plane from Sud-Aviation.
The most interesting thing is that Panair's plan was very different from the others, while BOAC, Air France and Panam thought of using the plane over long distances, Panair had in mind to make a supersonic air bridge between Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires.
The order was for 5 planes. And it was undone in 1965 when the comania was closed by the Brazilian military dictatorship because it was owned by people linked to the opposition.
Also an Irrelevant Fact:
PAL would might order 4 Concordes to operate on potential US flights and Europe flights but The Oil crisis of 1973 stopped the 4 possible PAL orders So PAL ordered the DC-10 instead.
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So basically you just read what the site said? Interesting video...
imagine if CAAC had concorde that means Air China would be flying concordes
Imagine a CCP politician arriving in a modernized Concorde, would out class a heavily modified 747. I remember reading how French presidents bragged about arriving on Concordes during international meetings
They probs ordered them to copy them and make a Chinese version
Abonniert ohne Grund China had no industrial capacities to build Concorde at the time. China did however mass produce licensed MD90s shortly before McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing, after which Boeing decided to withdraw manufacturing there. Airbus currently operates a plant in China responsible for building A320neo and ceos for the Asian-Pacific market, as well as an aircraft completion center for A330s. Boeing has a similar plant in China for the 737 Max aircraft.
The CAAC would’ve just studied it and produced a Chinese version.
Nobody:
Comac: 😳
Not so fast. The Russians are the best plane makers and cloners on the planet and they failed miserably.
If you know boom overture then this plane is the only plane to solve the Concorde's problems
I learn alot from simpleflying....
Although I am 14 and my parents approve this channel
Kudos simpleflying, you guys really brightened my time
Concorde could of been a great success had some of these options turned into firm orders and delivery, Pity Air France poor maintenance contributed towards the crash of this magnificent aircraft, Airbus withdrawing the certificate of airworthness was the wrong decision, BA could have continued to operate Concorde at a profit.
It was a bit more complicated than Airbus simply deciding to withdrawing the certificate of airworthiness. Older machines become more expensive to maintain. Air France retired their Concorde fleet & not all of BA's had the post-2001 modifications, so the number still flying was very small. Such a small fleet made the craft much more expensive to maintain so Airbus therefore increased the cost of their maintenance contract. At the right price they would have continued until the airframes had expired but this price was too high for BA to continue operating it.
BA were making 30 mill a year sterling in a depressed market just before cancellation .It was EU politics that killed it.
@@TheRip72 EU politics and time to discontinue as we are never getting super sonic aircraft. Not in the next 50 year anyhow
Concorde could never fly to Singapore non stop. It didn’t have the range. For instance you do not mention that British Airways were operating Concorde’s in a collaboration with Singapore Airlines. The aircraft refueled and changed crews in Bahrain. One side of the aircraft was in BA colours and the other painted SIA.
India would not allow Concorde to fly supersonically over its territory due to the sonic boom, although I am sure if Air India had bought the supersonic jet, this would not have been a problem. Flying to Singapore non stop on a 747-400 from 1989 onwards ended the viability of Concorde on the route.
The Air France crash showed how vulnerable Concorde was to poor airmanship and maintenance, even though a metal strip on the runway caused the initial problem. Rudders would de-laminate occasionally and losing an engine in the cruise was quite a big event. Unlike the TU144, Concorde did not require reheat to maintain a supersonic speed.
Concorde like the HS Trident, would be unlikely to be certified by the CAA today. BA pilots flying Concorde were handpicked and were the best. You did not simp,y become a Concorde pilot through choice or seniority. Even though BA and AF only had 14 Concorde’s between them, there were quite a few serious incidents not widely known. One AF Concorde had a nasty tail scrape out of Dakar, and a BA aircraft ran out of fuel at Heathrow whilst taxying from the runway. I am sure that if more airlines had operated Concorde, it would have been grounded eventually due to accidents simply caused by pilot error. This was not a forgiving aircraft to fly.
Is there any other options
Simpleflying can you please make a video on "Why does the Concord have a tail-dragger wheel at the end "
You get me right?
Quoting www.heritageconcorde.com: “The retractable tail bumper wheel was designed to protect the rear of Concorde during takeoff and landing, since she needed a high angle of attack to optimise lift from her delta wing.”
@@PhilSmith71 well thank you sir
I really appreciate that!
I learnt that the Concorde needed a high angle of attack, thank u
@@zulfiqaralikhurrum6911 Tartarian sense of humour
Why didn’t you talk about the Singapore airline concord... which was shared between Singapore airline and British airways?
Because it's irrelevant
Valentin Svensberg it’s entirely relevant! A Concorde was even painted on one side in Singapore Airlines livery. If Braniff was included in the video, SIA surely rated a mention.
Because Singapore never ordered one.
StanTheLegoMan Yep indeed, but one Concorde enter service with the half of the plane painted in the Singapore airline livery and with and the Oder half with the British airways livery... So Singapore airline deserve a shoutout as the did have the half of a Concorde in their fleet...
G-BOAD
www.simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-concorde-fate/amp/
Never heard of "placing an option" before!
Australian Airline TAA/Ansett also had a order
You forgot about Philippine airlines, which placed options for 4 aircraft circa 1971. It flew to Manila for a demo flight prior to this order.
The future is in the past.
You didn't mention about Air India cancellation
Virgin Atlantic also had a Concorde but BA wouldn’t give them the suitable paint so the gave it back
Sorry just wanted to add that
MWS Gull No Branson was still in diapers at the time... 😂
Actually Singapore airlines operated 1 Concorde from 1979 3 times before it was suspended it went mostly London - Singapore
Never expected for Air Canada to purchase Corcorde planes but cancel the orders
Good video 📹: new information.
The French 🇫🇷 should never have allowed the Russians 🇷🇺 plane to fly from Paris.
The plane , Konkordski. that looked identical to Concorde, crashed violently in Paris.
Konkordski Tu144, was obviously badly made.
Nevertheless, the reputation was damaged 💔 for the Anglo -French Concorde.
'Look, all supersonic planes are dangerous!'
Orders tumbled.
Yes! It some how imparted fear in people's hearts about supersonic travel.
The Tu 144 was meant to fill the hundreds of orders worldwide for Concorde. The old bait and switch but it didn't pass muster so it had to have a high profile demise to end the deliveries contract and deter the Russians from going it alone.
I can imagine old bidis complaining about the noise so what it's progress to many people are complaining for no reason 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I always wonder who owns the plans to Concorde, it would be interesting to take the exact same design, change out the fuselage for the most advanced materials we have no, and best engines etc, I wonder what the economics of that plane would look like.
Boom Overture ?!!
Not sure it would be possible to clone a Concorde even today. They couldn't do it back in the day, that is for sure. They tried with the Tu 144 but that fell short by a country mile resulting in the cancellation of worldwide super sonic transport back in the 1970's.
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Omg $60,000,000 in 1970 would equate to $444,000,000 today. Almost half a billion dollars per Concorde.
Suppose Somehow Ryanair would order the Concorde?😂😂 just imagine what would happen?😂😂
And Southwest as well lol
Id rather walk instead of taking Ryanair's Concorde 😂
Crap
Nothing would happen......who is capable of building a Concorde ???? No one
Another secret of the Concorde is Lego has made a model airplane out of 2000 pieces of Legos for under 200 buck or Euros! Not made for kids! Have fun, and good luck, some will need it!
It’s not a secret everyone knows about it
What about Singapore airlines, it flew the Concorde on a lease and got painted with a livery
Can someone please acknowledge Singapore flying the concord at least once? Thank you
@@arashrajab8919 British airways painted half of their livery in singapore airlines scheme, It wasnt an official but it at least got painted. Braniff had one aswell for only a year
On the prototype concordr was at one time painted round badges of the world airlines that put in orders then!
In an alternate timeline where both the concorde and Mirabel were successful... Alas...
Hey, good stuff. Please drop the POPs; we are not children. Thanx
What about Singapore Airlines who actually flew Concorde?
G-BOAD
www.simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-concorde-fate/amp/
The spatial bit in aero spatial is pronounced "spassial" not "spashial". Oh, and it should be "*which* airlines had orders for the supersonic jet" not "what airlines".
Well British and airfrace kinda had to place the orders
They got them for next to nothing too.
3:22 im shocked
Me too 😅
@Tripsathi woww never knew this , thanks for the info ✌🏼
@Tripsathi ohh thanks for explaining. I never thought Concorde would have landed in India
Eastern should have kept its options. Over water from New York to MIA and FLL !
You forgot PAL/Philippine Airlines tho airline ordered concorde too but later cancelled bcoz of Oil crisis
CAAC is best Concorde if they had received it
do you know concorde was developed to double as a bomber
I like how you show totally unrelated footage at times
Didn't Singapore Airlines opperate the Concorde ?
One of those entities who ordered Concordes could have also changed the future of supersonic flight... They would have reverse-engineered it, made multiple copies, and passed them off as their own.
No one could do it. No one had the expertise. Russians had a back stage pass and they failed.
Iran air almost bought them
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Maybe looking to covert it to a bomber?
Ma' Habba, L' Bombala !
where is the singapore airlines?
What about Singapore airlines ?
That was just a livery, the airline never ordered the plane.
@@gr8cescale they ordered in 1977 they still have the plane an sit is in the Singapore art museum .... I have seen it . They used to fly routes from London to Singapore and to Los Angeles .They stopped because of the complaints from neighbouring countries
it was G-BOAD
www.simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-concorde-fate/amp/
The Ads Person The plane isn’t in Singapore. It continued to fly for British Airways after, as you said, complaints from neighbouring countries (and bad economics) stopped the SIA service.
The aircraft is on display at the Intrepid Sea-Air Space Museum in New York.
Oh my god stop
All the tails of these customers were on a Hanger door in Toulouse but I think no longer!
Philippine airlines was offered a concorde
I wonder what will Pann Am do with their concordes If they actually put them in service.
You correctly speak English good very XD
@@N921VA Shut up. At least she (?) tries
Maybe it was the competition that secretly destroyed Concorde
What competition ? It had none.
@@jackspratt4343 u don't know jackshit about aviation
@@ljimmy622 Jackshit was yo' daddy. Lucky he beat the neighbours dog over yo' mammas fence.
Im the 433rd person to view them
Hi think about it the technology so forward thinking underrated 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I suspect the only reason it was profitable was because of little competition in a niche market.
I wish it was still flying to this day just one small mistake made it retire wow...
I wish the Lockheed Martin supersonic was built. They built the sr-71 so I think that if they got federal money to help them build it like Boeing we might have supersonic flights today.
if philippines own airline company during that time concorde was rising (marcos era) there might be atleast 10 or more concorde flying here
Singapore airlines did operate the Concorde
Very surprised than Iran Air had ordered one!!
Those days Iran Air needed special aircrafts for long haul routes, like Tehran - New York. And, Shah liked everything new and expensive 😁
@@davode76166 ok
The British and French sorting out the tech, and the Americans shafting the economics once again.
The plane's technology was too early for it's time.
Also Singapore Airlines.
Lufthansa got their airplane but didn’t fly it
CAAC don't worry about sending ours assembled.......
Where is Philippine airlines dude