They delibralty wrote Janeway to be a badass to appease male fans. Didn't work, because many just ignore it. They say Janeway is reckless and breaks the prime directive. When there's a scene in TNG that within 5 minutes Picard both admits to breaking the prime directive and being a captain who's not one to "play it save" and he's the dog for it. And When it's the other captains bad writing is bad wrighting. But when it's Janeway, it's because she's bipola. Voyager is peak sheek Trek built of the sucses of TNG and DS9. It was always going to be good. If you like classic trek. But you don't like Voyager. You need to ask you self why. And see if your exscuses hold up too the other series. To many Dan's idolise the principles of federation society. But just don't want to walk the walk.
The Borg stories in Voyager were the most interesting and well conceived. Janeway fighting the Borg made her the badass of captains. None of the others dared to go so far. It made so much sense to bring Seven back for Picard.
As revealed in the Picard Series Finale, Janeway's pathogen decimated the Borg to the point of near destruction. The Enterprise-D got to finish the job.
Why? The franchise should have allowed the Voyager crew to finish the job. Perhaps I would have been spared from the bad writing of Picard Seasons Two and Three.
@@juanitajones6900 She was acting captain of the Titan A, keeping the Borg away from Earth to buy Picard the time that he needed. Afterwards 7 was officially promoted to Captain of the renamed Enterprise G by her old friend Captain Tuvok.
Endgame remains the best and most dramatic Star Trek finale IMHO and Janeway is my favorite captain. At the end of Year Of Hell pt2 and she crashes Voyager right into the Time Ship and says ‘times up’ is as badass as it gets. Thanks for the upload.
In the final showdown with Admiral Janeway, the Queen made a mistake. "If Captain Janeway dies, you have no future and none of this will ever happen." I kind of doubt that. Admiral Janeway became a walking temporal paradox the moment she advised her younger self to reverse course and explore the nebula.
I always found it odd that every time a ship would experience some slight turbulence, sparks would shoot out everywhere and the consoles would all start to flicker. The tech we have today is better/safer than that.
First time, I saw this I did not expect Janeway to just show up there. Let alone the fact she is using Borg inflections to convey her message. You tell HER, Captain!
I know Im late in response but I agree it Endgame was absolutely solid. Im an absolute sucker for Equinox as well! The new stuff just doesn't work for me (Discovery, trying Picard but😒). I still watch DS9 and Enterprise over the new dribble.
I can just imagine during that little interlude Harry was waiting for the captain to come to the bridge the queen was like "oh, uhhh yeah hey Harry is Janeway there?" Harry is like "yeah she's on another deck can you wait a moment?" "Sure..." "....soo you assimilate anything interesting lately?" "Eh not really... just blowing up Kazons for fun, ya know?"
it's surprising how the collective dose not anticapate these sorts of tactics like you would think they would expect viruses that would interfere with Borg tech from assimilation
I never cared for the concept of the Borg Queen but I have nothing but high praise for the actress that have portrayed her. Susanna Thompson showed incredible anger in her eyes when dealing with Janeway!
Susanna Thompson is more frightening as Borg Queen than Alice Krige. She played the role better in my opinion. The way she says "Janeway" at 3:09... you definitely wouldn't want your name to be called out like that by anyone, let alone a Borg Queen.
Very sad thing is that the actor who played Sevens dad, died last month there of lung cancer. drone at 0:24 who isn't sure who he is. Also this queen and the one on 1st contact i would say more scary than the picard queen.
I agree. The actress on Picard is way too animated and emotional with her expressions. The queen should not be like this. She should be calm, in control, unaffected, purely focused on her goal, that's what made her terrifying.
Too bad Janeway probably won't show up on Picard. It would be a perfect reunion, especially if the Queen becomes the primary villain of the third season.
@@Zoozio there’s an episode where Janeway was seen as a warlord, but it’s a story being told. I haven’t seen Voyager in a while so I’m probs wrong o some stuff
Yeah based on the Picard series finale that pathogen Janeway infected the queen with directly and the destruction of the transwarp network devastated the collective.
I just realized that the Borg queen in the Voyager finale was played by Alice Krige reprising her role from Star Trek: First Contact. In all other Voyager episodes the Borg Queen was played by Susanna Thompson
so when admiral Janeway came from the future to the past she created a new timeline which means the original voyager is still trapped in the delta quadrant
I’ll admit while I agree that the borg were kinda overused in voyager and that kinda made them lose their fear status as they weren’t really this mysterious group from who knows where I still love every time they show cause scary or not you know that shit to s gonna go down.
The whole point of the Borg was they were a faceless menace with no big vulnerable spots. If the Queen had just gone "Go ahead, kill me and I'll just switch to a different body" it would have made more sense.
Pretty much all of encounters with the Borg on VOY were well done. Except in Dark Frontier episode where 7 is taken by the queen. Now, most of the events in those 2 episodes were fine, its at the very end when JAneway was in the Queen's chamber that things went a bit... south. Namely in the sense that it took the drones quite a bit of time to try and assimilate 7 and Janeway after the Queen issued the order, and enough time to 7 explain to Janeway about the vulnerability in the node? Nah... they would have been taken by then... I would have preferred if the exchange was modified so that 7 disrupts control and JAneway knew where she had to fire. After that, it was also a tad of a stretch to think that the Flyer could take on that many torpedoes in TW and come out alive, or that the Borg would be missing so many times (but 7 was onboard potentially disrupting the Borg targeting scanners, so that may have played a part, and it wasn't their intention of destroying the shuttle still, but to capture it).
I think whata important is how this portrays janeway Kirk was a war general Picard a diplomat Sisko a politician But janeway Janeway was a scientist... When all else failed she used science to outsmart her enemy... Just like the nueroletic pathegon.
I can totally get why Kate Mulgrew was not happy when Jeri Ryan showed up...any scene she is in her hot body and beautiful face steals, especially compared to Janway's sort of butchish looks and mannersims.
I really hope they do something good with Seven in Season 3 of Picard. She was the only reason why I decided to watch the show at all. I think people are a little too harsh in the criticism of season 1, but season 2 absolutely deserves it. I was so annoyed at how limited Seven was with a Borg arch in the story. I imagine Seven will have her final send off, and I want it to be as good as Qs was.
Of course the Borg Queen that has gathered up and assimilated all the intelligence and technology of a 1000 worlds is not smart enough to outwit Janeway , i think the Startrek series has been somewhat biased
The Borg had more issues. As Species 8472 found a defense against the Weapons. That the doctor had produced. And they come back to teach the Borg a final lesson.
This woman was created for this part the perfect Queen the perfect Borg queen. I have watched this woman and she is a great actress and this one was her best part as the queen of the board ship. All these women were created for this part the perfect woman for the perfect part. Love this scene love this seen it was the greatest Borg movie war I've ever seen. Glad that 7 but she also went back because this is her mother. Yes if you ever watched the whole series this is 7 of 9.00 that was on the original ship that were tracking the borg. Love it
to bad that Seven's parents never show up again during the series. would have be beter if seven's father was the one who shows her the weakpoint. then looks over to Seven and says telepathically... "Go Annika"
They never really explain how the Borg Queens work (probably on purpose). The show often treats them all as if they are the exact same individual in fact, just with different actors, which isn't impossible since in First Contact itself Picard is confused that the Queen is alive since he thought she died in the events of "Best of Both Worlds" and the Queen retorts that he's just thinking in "three dimensional terms". Either there are multiple Queens, some of whom happen to look identical; or, there is a single Queen and it is more like a program that has multiple clone bodies / avatars or something along those lines.
ok I am confused I have been looking at it as the Borg queen in season 3 and the one in season 2 as two different queens' just like each ship in the federation had there own crew and captains' part of the same thing but still independent of each other in borg ship because of the fracture of the hive with hu the one that the enterprise was able to detatch and teach individuality to so it was no longer a collective I think my theory is solid or am I just way off please someone let me know? and also janeway freeing seven of nine wont this only be possible because of the enterprise also before too teach hu individuality and ounce again causing this rif in the borg collective
What is it in shows and movies, where they step closer AND CLOSER with a RANGE weapon as if it's a MELEE weapon?! Oh yes please, invite the opportunity too be DISARMED!!!!
After... I once read that this queen is not the same as the one in Contact but a clone ore a savecopy of the real queen. Something of a backup should the plan to assimilate Earth fail.
After. It's not really clear if it's the same queen who can jump bodies or just a different queen each time. Either way, she's dead for good now: the Borg have FINALLY been destroyed.
They delibralty wrote Janeway to be a badass to appease male fans. Didn't work, because many just ignore it. They say Janeway is reckless and breaks the prime directive. When there's a scene in TNG that within 5 minutes Picard both admits to breaking the prime directive and being a captain who's not one to "play it save" and he's the dog for it. And When it's the other captains bad writing is bad wrighting. But when it's Janeway, it's because she's bipola. Voyager is peak sheek Trek built of the sucses of TNG and DS9. It was always going to be good. If you like classic trek. But you don't like Voyager. You need to ask you self why. And see if your exscuses hold up too the other series. To many fans idolise the principles of federation society. But just dont won't too see, they wouldn't fit well in it.
I like how Janeway casually turns down a chance to end a 70 year voyage. In real life the military would have given her a blanket party and put her in the brig and gone home. Turned down the borg queen, Q twice, destroyed the array.... She is a horrible captain. The worst in all of star fleet.
You know you're a badass when the Borg queen has a moment every time she recognizes you
Janeway was nowhere near a badass lmao.
aw someones jealous@@andrewleah1983
“Janeway….”
- The Borg Queen
@@andrewleah1983 Obviously, you’re a kid….
They delibralty wrote Janeway to be a badass to appease male fans. Didn't work, because many just ignore it.
They say Janeway is reckless and breaks the prime directive. When there's a scene in TNG that within 5 minutes Picard both admits to breaking the prime directive and being a captain who's not one to "play it save" and he's the dog for it.
And
When it's the other captains bad writing is bad wrighting.
But when it's Janeway, it's because she's bipola.
Voyager is peak sheek Trek built of the sucses of TNG and DS9. It was always going to be good.
If you like classic trek. But you don't like Voyager. You need to ask you self why. And see if your exscuses hold up too the other series.
To many Dan's idolise the principles of federation society.
But just don't want to walk the walk.
Imagine being such a pain in the ass that the Borg Queen herself hacks into your ship just to tell you to piss off lmao
that´s why her majesty utters the laconic "Janeway!!"..
The Borg stories in Voyager were the most interesting and well conceived. Janeway fighting the Borg made her the badass of captains. None of the others dared to go so far. It made so much sense to bring Seven back for Picard.
What about that time when Kirk threw a big rock at the Gorn?
Meh
ST Picard was unwatchable, we already had TNG to remember Picard, why muddy his name like that is beyond me.
Janeway is fine but she is not in the same league so Kirk or even Picard.
@@user-vy5uy9fo8p Picard was very good
As revealed in the Picard Series Finale, Janeway's pathogen decimated the Borg to the point of near destruction. The Enterprise-D got to finish the job.
Why? The franchise should have allowed the Voyager crew to finish the job. Perhaps I would have been spared from the bad writing of Picard Seasons Two and Three.
@@juanitajones6900 Technically, Seven of Nine was a part of it.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Okay?
@@juanitajones6900 She was acting captain of the Titan A, keeping the Borg away from Earth to buy Picard the time that he needed. Afterwards 7 was officially promoted to Captain of the renamed Enterprise G by her old friend Captain Tuvok.
@@juanitajones6900 you’re so wrong
Endgame remains the best and most dramatic Star Trek finale IMHO and Janeway is my favorite captain. At the end of Year Of Hell pt2 and she crashes Voyager right into the Time Ship and says ‘times up’ is as badass as it gets. Thanks for the upload.
you will assist the collective as drones assimilate them💀💀
"We'll see you soon, Harry." She knows Janeway is protective of him.
It was SOOOOOO creepy.
Susanna Thompson has the best "Oh for fucks sake! " look. When The Queen spots Janeway in Unimatrix Zero.
you have failed them
we believed you would be an asset to us but you are weak
In the final showdown with Admiral Janeway, the Queen made a mistake.
"If Captain Janeway dies, you have no future and none of this will ever happen."
I kind of doubt that. Admiral Janeway became a walking temporal paradox the moment she advised her younger self to reverse course and explore the nebula.
Bingo, variant confirmed
I wondered about that. As there was no changing the time line once she did that.
The Borg should have never assimilated the Federations use of "Explodium" in the consoles
I always found it odd that every time a ship would experience some slight turbulence, sparks would shoot out everywhere and the consoles would all start to flicker. The tech we have today is better/safer than that.
@@wallacewallaby5782but it's fun
This scene was so badass. I never appreciated it as a teenager. But I love it now. The Borg storyline was so amazing in Voyager!
you have failed them
When they brought back the Borg Queen in "Picard", my first thought was that it was a pity Janeway wasn't there.
There were a couple of potentially great moments in Pickard if Janeway had been present.
@@specialandroid1603maybe too much $ for the budget. But she was referenced a few times so that was cool
the borg might want to consider installing a firewall...
Janeway destroys firewalls before coffee
HAHAHA
First time, I saw this I did not expect Janeway to just show up there. Let alone the fact she is using Borg inflections to convey her message. You tell HER, Captain!
I love how the Borg developed in Voyager. Much better than in TNG. Endgame is one of my favorite Voyager episodes.
Same here! I know Endgame was controversial for some, but it is one of my top 5 Voyager episodes
@@TheSciFiFeminist time travel, Borg and a new member of the crew, what's not to like 😍
@@SteveRobertsUK Hehe right! The perfect recipe!😂😍
Disagree they went from being near invincible to being able to be defeated by a small lone science ship on its own
I know Im late in response but I agree it Endgame was absolutely solid. Im an absolute sucker for Equinox as well! The new stuff just doesn't work for me (Discovery, trying Picard but😒). I still watch DS9 and Enterprise over the new dribble.
I can just imagine during that little interlude Harry was waiting for the captain to come to the bridge the queen was like "oh, uhhh yeah hey Harry is Janeway there?" Harry is like "yeah she's on another deck can you wait a moment?" "Sure..." "....soo you assimilate anything interesting lately?" "Eh not really... just blowing up Kazons for fun, ya know?"
Hearing the collective have their speech corrupt at 5:35 was so gratifying to hear.
5:06 Arguably the very best scene in ALL of Star Trek. These two actresses… amazing. “To bring chaos to order…”. One of my favorite lines of all time.
Best? 😂
Now that we know what exactly this virus did, certainly one of the most important moments.
Seen as a gestalt like this, it appears that Janeway and the Borg Queen have an almost Sherlock Holmes/Professor Moriarty relationship.
3:10 I love how the Borg Queen snears: Janeway.
My old nemesis, Janeway!
Must be something you assimilated. Best one liners
it's surprising how the collective dose not anticapate these sorts of tactics like you would think they would expect viruses that would interfere with Borg tech from assimilation
Queen: You'll get promoted in the Collective, Harry.
However, you still won't get lucky with the Ladies.
It's Alice Krige from TNG First Contact who is back as the queen in Endgame.
I didn't know that, cool!
Alice was the best Queen, in my opinion
It was Alice's voice, but another actor was in all the costume and makeup stuff. So I read.
I never cared for the concept of the Borg Queen but I have nothing but high praise for the actress that have portrayed her. Susanna Thompson showed incredible anger in her eyes when dealing with Janeway!
You would think the Borg Queen would have a better understanding of Temporal Mechanics. The Admiral is from a different timeline than The Captain.
Desperation.
DIscovery: Somehow all warp cores exploded and Cpt. Burnham cries.
Voyager: Janeway Badasses the Borg Queen out of existence.
Yeah, the entire show was THAT blah.
We call it STD for a reason.
Voyager was the greatest Star Trek of all of the them.
They are tied with Enterprise for me😊
Exactly. Voyager then Enterprise they both rocked.
Janeway saved starfleet by destroying the transwarp worm hole system
Susanna Thompson is more frightening as Borg Queen than Alice Krige. She played the role better in my opinion. The way she says "Janeway" at 3:09... you definitely wouldn't want your name to be called out like that by anyone, let alone a Borg Queen.
I TOTALLY agree ❤
Susannah Thompson is a great actress anyway.
Very sad thing is that the actor who played Sevens dad, died last month there of lung cancer. drone at 0:24 who isn't sure who he is. Also this queen and the one on 1st contact i would say more scary than the picard queen.
I agree. The actress on Picard is way too animated and emotional with her expressions. The queen should not be like this. She should be calm, in control, unaffected, purely focused on her goal, that's what made her terrifying.
@@susul2843 Same Actress. Unless you're talking about the lunatic chick who kills the Scientist
Too bad Janeway probably won't show up on Picard. It would be a perfect reunion, especially if the Queen becomes the primary villain of the third season.
I agree!!
@Dawson Davis evil?
@@Zoozio there’s an episode where Janeway was seen as a warlord, but it’s a story being told. I haven’t seen Voyager in a while so I’m probs wrong o some stuff
The real villain of Picard is Alex Kurtzman
The look on the Queen's face at 3:08 says it all.
Alice Kridge was good as the Borg Queen
Janeway is my fav captain
I am tied with her and Sisko. He punched Q😂
Yeah based on the Picard series finale that pathogen Janeway infected the queen with directly and the destruction of the transwarp network devastated the collective.
It turns out that Susanna Thompson was the back actor to play the Borg Queen in Star Trek: First Contact.
Alice Krieg vs. Kate Mulgrew… is everything.
Two powerhouse actresses, in the roles of their lives.
Its funny that she sees Sphere 634 from the outside as if there were moving cameras in the transwarp corridor. TV logic. 🙃
I just realized that the Borg queen in the Voyager finale was played by Alice Krige reprising her role from Star Trek: First Contact. In all other Voyager episodes the Borg Queen was played by Susanna Thompson
I loved this Episode
...not feeling talkative? - iconic
03:07 the face of a warrior
so when admiral Janeway came from the future to the past she created a new timeline which means the original voyager is still trapped in the delta quadrant
It created a paradox. That was resolved
@@austinperry1671NO, once admiral Janeway came back and created the new timeline the original timeline still played out
Borg: we are inevitable
Captain: and I am…janeway
2,15 - "I'm...im gonna do it...im gonna, im gonna do it!"
4:25 because last time you didn't try to backstab Voyager...;)
"Captain, i think it's for you" Harry said hoping😂
The Borg Queen can't stand Captain Janeway.....
"Captain, I think its for you."
"Be seeing you soon Harry"..."You better hope not!"
I’ll admit while I agree that the borg were kinda overused in voyager and that kinda made them lose their fear status as they weren’t really this mysterious group from who knows where I still love every time they show cause scary or not you know that shit to s gonna go down.
The Borg was "overused" in "Voyager" because the ship was traveling through the Delta Quadrant and their home territory.
Thanks for thinking of your deaf viewers and ensuring closed captioning is available.
The whole point of the Borg was they were a faceless menace with no big vulnerable spots. If the Queen had just gone "Go ahead, kill me and I'll just switch to a different body" it would have made more sense.
Thank you for uploading this
When I see the Borg queen I think of cat from supergirl
Where there's a Victor, there's a Kate: likely more than one.
Three cheers for the neurolytic pathogen :)
Pretty much all of encounters with the Borg on VOY were well done.
Except in Dark Frontier episode where 7 is taken by the queen.
Now, most of the events in those 2 episodes were fine, its at the very end when JAneway was in the Queen's chamber that things went a bit... south.
Namely in the sense that it took the drones quite a bit of time to try and assimilate 7 and Janeway after the Queen issued the order, and enough time to 7 explain to Janeway about the vulnerability in the node?
Nah... they would have been taken by then... I would have preferred if the exchange was modified so that 7 disrupts control and JAneway knew where she had to fire.
After that, it was also a tad of a stretch to think that the Flyer could take on that many torpedoes in TW and come out alive, or that the Borg would be missing so many times (but 7 was onboard potentially disrupting the Borg targeting scanners, so that may have played a part, and it wasn't their intention of destroying the shuttle still, but to capture it).
Wow! Forgot that one... thanks!
One of Janeway's best performances!
It would be nice if the audio were Audible.
5:02. This hits harder if you've played Star Trek Online recently.
I think whata important is how this portrays janeway
Kirk was a war general
Picard a diplomat
Sisko a politician
But janeway
Janeway was a scientist... When all else failed she used science to outsmart her enemy... Just like the nueroletic pathegon.
See you soon Harry...chills...😱
I Love This Episode I Hope it's Still Canon with Nu Trek.
I'm happy to report it is :)
More than you expected.
I can totally get why Kate Mulgrew was not happy when Jeri Ryan showed up...any scene she is in her hot body and beautiful face steals, especially compared to Janway's sort of butchish looks and mannersims.
balls of steel
Captain Janespray
Captain Janeway is such a badass I love her so much!!!
I really hope they do something good with Seven in Season 3 of Picard.
She was the only reason why I decided to watch the show at all. I think people are a little too harsh in the criticism of season 1, but season 2 absolutely deserves it.
I was so annoyed at how limited Seven was with a Borg arch in the story.
I imagine Seven will have her final send off, and I want it to be as good as Qs was.
So much for Q having a final send off lol, I personally like what they did with Seven in S3.
Of course the Borg Queen that has gathered up and assimilated all the intelligence and technology of a 1000 worlds is not smart enough to outwit Janeway , i think the Startrek series has been somewhat biased
The Borg had more issues. As Species 8472 found a defense against the Weapons. That the doctor had produced. And they come back to teach the Borg a final lesson.
This woman was created for this part the perfect Queen the perfect Borg queen. I have watched this woman and she is a great actress and this one was her best part as the queen of the board ship. All these women were created for this part the perfect woman for the perfect part. Love this scene love this seen it was the greatest Borg movie war I've ever seen. Glad that 7 but she also went back because this is her mother. Yes if you ever watched the whole series this is 7 of 9.00 that was on the original ship that were tracking the borg. Love it
Love this
This Borg Queen looks like the same actress that is used in season 2 of Star Trek Picard
It isn’t , there was this one , the one in first contact and now Annie who is the new one and I think the best one
Yeah you're right
to bad that Seven's parents never show up again during the series. would have be beter if seven's father was the one who shows her the weakpoint. then looks over to Seven and says telepathically...
"Go Annika"
They should do a borg
Origins series.
Who was the first Borg? Damnit it started with just one so who and how did it get this out of hand?!
They put 7 in as a hottie, but Janeway was the original hottie
She ends up looking like a Borg Margaret Thatcher. Truly frightening.
6:03 *Space Herpes!*
If Janeway kills this borg queen then how can Picard kill the same Queen???
Data kills this borg queen.
They never really explain how the Borg Queens work (probably on purpose). The show often treats them all as if they are the exact same individual in fact, just with different actors, which isn't impossible since in First Contact itself Picard is confused that the Queen is alive since he thought she died in the events of "Best of Both Worlds" and the Queen retorts that he's just thinking in "three dimensional terms".
Either there are multiple Queens, some of whom happen to look identical; or, there is a single Queen and it is more like a program that has multiple clone bodies / avatars or something along those lines.
Good restrospect!
I had such a crush on THE BORG QUEEN!!!
Can't hear what they are saying the background noise is way too loud
The problem is the Borg console was based on N64 while Voyager was on PS5
Thunder v fire
ok I am confused I have been looking at it as the Borg queen in season 3 and the one in season 2 as two different queens' just like each ship in the federation had there own crew and captains' part of the same thing but still independent of each other in borg ship because of the fracture of the hive with hu the one that the enterprise was able to detatch and teach individuality to so it was no longer a collective I think my theory is solid or am I just way off please someone let me know? and also janeway freeing seven of nine wont this only be possible because of the enterprise also before too teach hu individuality and ounce again causing this rif in the borg collective
Yeah see, they could’ve used bullets and knives against the Borg and they wouldn’t be able to adapt. They can adapt to phasers.
What is it in shows and movies, where they step closer AND CLOSER with a RANGE weapon as if it's a MELEE weapon?! Oh yes please, invite the opportunity too be DISARMED!!!!
Is this before or after first contact ? The queen dies in both so im confused on timeline ?
After... I once read that this queen is not the same as the one in Contact but a clone ore a savecopy of the real queen. Something of a backup should the plan to assimilate Earth fail.
After. It's not really clear if it's the same queen who can jump bodies or just a different queen each time. Either way, she's dead for good now: the Borg have FINALLY been destroyed.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Amazing!! We finally see a real end to the Borg! I can't wait for a new series with Captain 7 😄
@@Goldtaker23 But not the Free Borg Collektiv so the bad borgs ar gone forever and in some point one queen lives togetter with Jurati in one body
Good work... I must remember you're about Sci-fi. my bad
Same here
Alice Krige was the best. And I'm not just saying that as a Silent Hill fan.
Janeway was my true mommy and Ricker my daddy.
so bad ass man
They delibralty wrote Janeway to be a badass to appease male fans. Didn't work, because many just ignore it.
They say Janeway is reckless and breaks the prime directive. When there's a scene in TNG that within 5 minutes Picard both admits to breaking the prime directive and being a captain who's not one to "play it save" and he's the dog for it.
And
When it's the other captains bad writing is bad wrighting.
But when it's Janeway, it's because she's bipola.
Voyager is peak sheek Trek built of the sucses of TNG and DS9. It was always going to be good.
If you like classic trek. But you don't like Voyager. You need to ask you self why. And see if your exscuses hold up too the other series.
To many fans idolise the principles of federation society.
But just dont won't too see, they wouldn't fit well in it.
Seven is hot.
Borg Queen ffff.... She's nothing compared to badass janeway.. Not even in the same league
Voyager ruined the borg. They were so scary and interesting and unique in TNG, then this.
I like how Janeway casually turns down a chance to end a 70 year voyage. In real life the military would have given her a blanket party and put her in the brig and gone home. Turned down the borg queen, Q twice, destroyed the array.... She is a horrible captain. The worst in all of star fleet.