As one of the artist in this movie industry, I gotta say there's not only Weta Studio worked on this movie, without doubt Weta is one of the best studio, but there are other studios with many artists, countless hours worked on it.
yep, i removed a lot of the live reference character stepping in for the cg steppenwolf. We did shots just before and after that puddle shot, so can't say for sure if that water is cg.
Obviously, Western studios outsource a lot of work to Korea, Japan and China. Most of these amazing shots in Marvel and DC movies are made by Eastern studios.
No Whedon rewrote almost 90 pages of script and reshot and rearranged the scenes that's why he was credited as a screenwriter in the 2017 movie yes there was studio interference but Whedon even gave a interview that he wants to put his style to the movie even reusing scenes from avengers so it can be called Whedon cut
Being a VFX artist I thank you Jaby and Achara for reacting to this and appreciating the work we artists put in. No matter if it is just a puddle or a bullet. It takes a lot of work and lot of hours. And bit of appreciation is always inspiring and keep us motivated
If Weadon was called in to finish the movie, then why did he shoot new scenes, he could have kept Supes untouched, he could have used the original Steppenwolf design....but NO...he had to F up the freaking movie.....so yeah Weadon cut it is.
Yes..Whedon would have made snydercut a 2 hr thing..but he scrapped all those...so yeh if jaby is marvel fan..iget it ,but Whedon sucks who r supporting Whedon sucks too
You all don't know how the movie industry works. The STUDIO mandated all those changes and Whedon was tasked with the job to carry out THEIR vision, not his own. The only blame you can lay against him is that he took on the job in the first place, which was, to my mind, a complete sell-out of his artistic integrity.
@@Bishnoistaan No. Obviously Zack didn't release them. He said he won't reveal them in Grace Randolph's interview. He's keeping them in store in case Part Two happens.
This visual effects were completed in Lockdown. Imagine what they would have done if they would have completed it way back in 2017. #RestoretheSnyderverse
DC has already made an official announcement that they would be releasing Justice League 2 and 3 directed by Zack Snyder. The SnyderVerse has been restored ❤️
One video here yt said that he looked like Liam Neeson in a cheap viking costume. Ngl, I also thought it was Liam Neeson at first because of the voice.
@@jaydeepsen4769 Joss Whedon was making Wonder Woman's character comedic, he wants to shoot that scene where flash land on wonder woman, but gala gadot didn't want to do that scene she thought that would ruin her character and then Joss Whedon told her he’s the writer and she’s going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her look incredibly stupid in this movie.
The original steppenwolf is the one from the Snyder Cut. While whedon isn’t the only one to blame, he is still to blame for a lot of the 2017 version. Along with the toxic environment he made.
Whedon despised zacks work n didn't want to use his footage and called it nonsense.. His ego didn't let him to use Zack vision.. Instead he want to show off tat he's some kinda messiah who can magically make any movie blockbuster.. N this is the result.. So yeah this is Whedon cut..
7:43 It means Steppenwolf's silhouette can still be clearly seen. You can look at his body and actually see it because it's not braided with sharp stuff and other things in contrast with Transformer robots where you have to freeze frame and dissect them so that you can have an indication of what they actually look like. In simpler terms, Transformer robots are hard to look at while Steppenwolf isn't.
they tried to get under 2 hours but cut so much they had to reshoot stupid scenes...no...they didnt just had to cut it to a certain length...they were afraid to show such a dark approach and didnt trust the audience. which is a huge mistake
@@AllThingsKen Well it's divided in six parts, so if have any problem you can just pause and watch it later. I know it is hard to do that because you just can't wait to see what happens next but think of it as a show
@@AllThingsKen All epic movies are long. Off course you haven't seen any decent movie in your life, you wouldn't know. But please never ever share your extremely ignorant opinions on movies and money again.
Wedon reshooting 90% of the movies, 80 pages of new script, even reshooting scenes with same context to make it worse for some reason. YA WE CALL IT THE WEDON CUT OR SHOULD I SAY THE JOSSTICE LEAGUE
Jaby, whedon Reshoots a lot of it and it was AFTER removing 2 hrs from the rest of 4hrs zack original shoots. If I were whedon i probably just shorten the 4 hrs into 2 hrs or at least the safest cut is 3hrs.
@@raam726 endgame was around 3hr..why can't JL also around that hr..I'm sure it'll be fine to cut the snyder version for about 3 hr WITHOUT reshooting, but still they (whedon/Wb) even change the ending (and other things).
19:45 yeah man totally, you heard the news about how some of the actors threatened(career) by him? you heard the ray fisher's boo yaa story? general attitude towards snyders? he deserves every such opinion because this was a hack job of him and geoff jones, on the finished product; cutting out 'flash clearing debris scene' is an insult alone, i can go on but i won't, have a nice day man.
So what Jaby is trying to say since Joss wanted to get everything under 2 hrs he cut certain extended shoots for example of the Amazonians so why did he do so may reshoots bring in Supes for extended shoots and did so many changes in scripts like Barry falling on Diana you telling me all of this was done by him and yet no it is not a Whedon Cut... Come on man!!!!
Let's not try to defend Whedon. If you follow the story closely his behaviour on the set and how he treated the scenes done by Snyder you will realise why we call it the Whedon cut. TBH he may have done Avengers and we all liked it but we cannot forgive him for sabotaging this - maybe on purpose - maybe because he didn't care enough. And we can definitely never forgive him for being a sexist and how he threatened Gal.
Nahh bruh snyder cut, snyder didn't have control. He was not allowed to shot new scene, he was not allowed to put darkseid, he was not allowed to put the green lantern scene (but he changed it with martian manhunter) so yeah. Whedon had more control than snyder
there is quite the difference when a movie is supposed to be under 2 hours or 4 hours. Comparing how long a scene in the Snyder cut is, or how much more development is given to a character is not equal.
Read up on what Whedon said to Gal Gadot. Don't think you'll be defending him after that Making a film 2 hours as studio mandate doesn't justify the Steppenwolf design change or any of the other creative decisions taken, not to mention rewriting the 90% of the script. That was Whedon. He absolutely doesn't get a pass for all of this. Whedon cut it is. Also #RestoreTheSnyderverse
DC has already made an official announcement that they would be releasing Justice League 2 and 3 directed by Zack Snyder. The SnyderVerse has been restored ❤️
The Whedon cut was very much the Whedon cut. To make the film 2 hours or less he reshot so much and had so much things changed, yes he was in the editing room. So much useless shit he did.
I love jaby and achara...but god i hate when i see a reaction video of a reaction video.... Imagine if the latter decides to make a reaction video of the reaction video to the original reaction video.....🤯
Whedon literally reshot stuff and replaced things he didn’t need too if was trying to cut time he could’ve just tried to cut down this movie right here
Whedon did reshoots which were half of the original movie. If he just used old Snyder's footage in 2 hours then it would have been decent too but he did horrible reshoots with sexist shots and jokes like flash falling on diana's breasts or various ass shots and lines. So you can't defend him 🤷🏻♂️
There's even more interesting CGI moments that people probably didn't know about. From what I've read it seems that Superman's entire body was CGI during the fight with Steppenwolf. It seems that changing the color on his suit was more difficult to do compared to creating an entirely new CGI body.
Whedon had to keep the movie under 2 hour because of WB , Snyder had Full control over this. If this was 2 hour it would be exactly same movie with different colour and CG. Ans moreover Snyder cut is good but it's hype is only because the Whedon one was so Bad.
@@rajasrathore163 You cannot have a justice league movie of 2 hours run time. You are supposed to introduce 23 new characters, 2 villain all this in just 2 hours? WB just fucked up. Having said that, Snydercut could be reduced to 3 hours for theatrical release. And my previous comment was to emphasis the fact that Whedon reshoots were ridiculous. Why bring back Cavill to shoot a scene that adds absolutely no value, spending all those money for cgi, literally wasting all those money. All his scenes were kind of useless. And so I believe 2 hour version of Snydercut would still be better than JL2017.
10:55 when you only have 2hrs as opposed to 4hrs, you gotta cut every bit of excess you can. I don't fault him for these cuts, whos to say Whedon' woundn't have rather seen them hit the ground or the hammers swing longer as well, but 2hrs man...
No matter how good zack snyder movies look visually, his story and plot is always mediocre or bad...also none of his movies are fun to watch... it's awesome to watch but not fun with no plot or depth or story or climax...for example watchmen, 300, batman v superman, man of steel...also all his movies are so slowwwww...with unnecessary slow motions...
@@lukeevans6070 yes, his name is Snyder. Slo mo for a sesame seed?!? If everything is dynamic, nothing is. Flash literally groomed a chick he didn't know and pocketed a hot dog... profanity, black and gore is a childlike idea of dark.
As one of the artist in this movie industry, I gotta say there's not only Weta Studio worked on this movie, without doubt Weta is one of the best studio, but there are other studios with many artists, countless hours worked on it.
As a moviegoer and fan all I gotta say is thank you to all the many artist in front and behind the scenes that brought Zack's vision to life.
@Rylan Saint Provide your money then😁
yep, i removed a lot of the live reference character stepping in for the cg steppenwolf. We did shots just before and after that puddle shot, so can't say for sure if that water is cg.
It's scanline
Obviously, Western studios outsource a lot of work to Korea, Japan and China. Most of these amazing shots in Marvel and DC movies are made by Eastern studios.
No Whedon rewrote almost 90 pages of script and reshot and rearranged the scenes that's why he was credited as a screenwriter in the 2017 movie yes there was studio interference but Whedon even gave a interview that he wants to put his style to the movie even reusing scenes from avengers so it can be called Whedon cut
Lol
He had to rewrite in any scenario, even if he didn't want to. He had to make a 4 hour movie into a 2 hour movie.
Being a VFX artist I thank you Jaby and Achara for reacting to this and appreciating the work we artists put in. No matter if it is just a puddle or a bullet. It takes a lot of work and lot of hours. And bit of appreciation is always inspiring and keep us motivated
Wonder Woman still has the most durable heels in the entire world. When she jump down to investigate ancient text on the walls
It's possible that they have edited her face with the stunt double
@@naveenisthename yeah. Most likely.
That’s those new red bottoms 😆
@@naveenisthename r/woosh
If Weadon was called in to finish the movie, then why did he shoot new scenes, he could have kept Supes untouched, he could have used the original Steppenwolf design....but NO...he had to F up the freaking movie.....so yeah Weadon cut it is.
Yes..Whedon would have made snydercut a 2 hr thing..but he scrapped all those...so yeh if jaby is marvel fan..iget it ,but Whedon sucks who r supporting Whedon sucks too
Jaby is a Joss fan. Of course he cant spoke the bad of him. And he will try to ignore the facts you are saying bro.
You all don't know how the movie industry works. The STUDIO mandated all those changes and Whedon was tasked with the job to carry out THEIR vision, not his own. The only blame you can lay against him is that he took on the job in the first place, which was, to my mind, a complete sell-out of his artistic integrity.
Define finish? Also finish is what they said in public. Clearly it was not what they said behind close doors
@@cristonsloan so he came up with stupid jokes?
The Battle is won but the war is still to be won.
#restorethesnyderverse
Have you read Zack's future movie plans of justice league part 2 and 3. I have those story boards.
@@Bishnoistaan everyone has
@@Bishnoistaan Zack made new ones now. Those leaked storyboard are scrapped.
@@AshrafAnam you have those new one's?
@@Bishnoistaan No. Obviously Zack didn't release them. He said he won't reveal them in Grace Randolph's interview. He's keeping them in store in case Part Two happens.
The 2017 one is the Whedon Cut. He changed the story and re-shot more then a hour of footage. That makes it the Whedon Cut.
This visual effects were completed in Lockdown. Imagine what they would have done if they would have completed it way back in 2017.
#RestoretheSnyderverse
DC has already made an official announcement that they would be releasing Justice League 2 and 3 directed by Zack Snyder. The SnyderVerse has been restored ❤️
@@jaydeepsen4769 No they didn't. The released a trailer of Snyder Cut trilogy instead.
Steppenwolf from the 2017 version looks like a man who lost his way from a renaissance fair😆
LOL
One video here yt said that he looked like Liam Neeson in a cheap viking costume. Ngl, I also thought it was Liam Neeson at first because of the voice.
@@marxvargas7697 There's a regular 4Nerds stream on YT...there they dubbed him "Steppen-Neeson"
Jaby bring back the 'immature tshirts' you matured guy!! :D
I've heard Joss Whedon threatened Gal Gadot on set, is that true?
True
Yup
For what?
@@jaydeepsen4769 Joss Whedon was making Wonder Woman's character comedic, he wants to shoot that scene where flash land on wonder woman, but gala gadot didn't want to do that scene she thought that would ruin her character and then Joss Whedon told her he’s the writer and she’s going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her look incredibly stupid in this movie.
@@InternationalAssassin he's an asshole then
We all know who people and fans call stupid after the release of the Snyder Cut 😂😂😂
The original steppenwolf is the one from the Snyder Cut. While whedon isn’t the only one to blame, he is still to blame for a lot of the 2017 version. Along with the toxic environment he made.
people really need to respect the power of CGI way more and the hard work that these VFX guys put in to it
Whedon despised zacks work n didn't want to use his footage and called it nonsense.. His ego didn't let him to use Zack vision.. Instead he want to show off tat he's some kinda messiah who can magically make any movie blockbuster.. N this is the result.. So yeah this is Whedon cut..
@achara is looking mind boggling beautiful in red dress, Just like Emilia Clarke in “me before you” ❤️
7:43 It means Steppenwolf's silhouette can still be clearly seen. You can look at his body and actually see it because it's not braided with sharp stuff and other things in contrast with Transformer robots where you have to freeze frame and dissect them so that you can have an indication of what they actually look like.
In simpler terms, Transformer robots are hard to look at while Steppenwolf isn't.
they tried to get under 2 hours but cut so much they had to reshoot stupid scenes...no...they didnt just had to cut it to a certain length...they were afraid to show such a dark approach and didnt trust the audience. which is a huge mistake
that had nothing to do with it. The movie was too damn long. You can only show a 4 hour movie so many times in a day. ITs a waste of money.
@@AllThingsKen Well it's divided in six parts, so if have any problem you can just pause and watch it later. I know it is hard to do that because you just can't wait to see what happens next but think of it as a show
@@rajarshisantra8203 he refers in theaters. Snyder cut is a big waste of money.
@@pabloespinoza6527 Actually MCU movies post Disney takeover were all huge wastes of money. Such trash amusement park movies totally killed cinema.
@@AllThingsKen All epic movies are long. Off course you haven't seen any decent movie in your life, you wouldn't know. But please never ever share your extremely ignorant opinions on movies and money again.
Wedon reshooting 90% of the movies, 80 pages of new script, even reshooting scenes with same context to make it worse for some reason. YA WE CALL IT THE WEDON CUT OR SHOULD I SAY THE JOSSTICE LEAGUE
There's actually one more old footage re used, when superman lands in the epilogue scene that scene is old footage as well
i love Corridor Crew
Jaby trying to defend Whedon hence Marvel is cute 🙂
Its gross.
Achara's beauty appreciation comment❤️
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There were a lot of choices that were his own.
Can you guys reacted to Film Theory: Dear DC, I Fixed Your Universe! (Justice League Snyder Cut) please. Would love to hear your thought on this.
Achara looks like Little Red Riding Hood 😀❤️💐
Jaby, whedon Reshoots a lot of it and it was AFTER removing 2 hrs from the rest of 4hrs zack original shoots. If I were whedon i probably just shorten the 4 hrs into 2 hrs or at least the safest cut is 3hrs.
They'll let you do only 2h30m
@@raam726 endgame was around 3hr..why can't JL also around that hr..I'm sure it'll be fine to cut the snyder version for about 3 hr WITHOUT reshooting, but still they (whedon/Wb) even change the ending (and other things).
Well one thing in support of whedon is all that detail in Snyder cut can't be there in whedons one cause there's a time limit
Snyder = Detail😎
Haha, Jaby reacting to corridor crew reacting to ZSJL Bad and great CGI.
So basically there reacting to another reacting video
Eastern side of JAchara. You are welcomed.
Waiting for this❤️❤️
But whedom did write the script , with studio notes saying he needed to make it humorous
19:45 yeah man totally, you heard the news about how some of the actors threatened(career) by him? you heard the ray fisher's boo yaa story? general attitude towards snyders? he deserves every such opinion because this was a hack job of him and geoff jones, on the finished product; cutting out 'flash clearing debris scene' is an insult alone, i can go on but i won't, have a nice day man.
I want the mullet beard cut if they're going at it. Stupid WB. Snyder wanted the beard and mullet like in the books
So what Jaby is trying to say since Joss wanted to get everything under 2 hrs he cut certain extended shoots for example of the Amazonians so why did he do so may reshoots bring in Supes for extended shoots and did so many changes in scripts like Barry falling on Diana you telling me all of this was done by him and yet no it is not a Whedon Cut... Come on man!!!!
Let's not try to defend Whedon. If you follow the story closely his behaviour on the set and how he treated the scenes done by Snyder you will realise why we call it the Whedon cut. TBH he may have done Avengers and we all liked it but we cannot forgive him for sabotaging this - maybe on purpose - maybe because he didn't care enough. And we can definitely never forgive him for being a sexist and how he threatened Gal.
Nahh bruh snyder cut, snyder didn't have control. He was not allowed to shot new scene, he was not allowed to put darkseid, he was not allowed to put the green lantern scene (but he changed it with martian manhunter) so yeah. Whedon had more control than snyder
He was allowed to put darkseid. Darkseids in the movie.
No you are wrong. Joss deliberately changed JL. He vandalized JL completely forcing cast to do things they weren't comfortable.
Joss Wheedon had actual rewrites
This is reaction of a reaction , that's 2x Reaction
You should react to The Canadian Lad's breakdown of Snyder cut, Please.
there is quite the difference when a movie is supposed to be under 2 hours or 4 hours. Comparing how long a scene in the Snyder cut is, or how much more development is given to a character is not equal.
Dude please watch Canadian lads video on snyder cut. Please.
Hey Wheadon did all the reshoots, its a Wheadon cut.
Waiting for the day he says their names in the intro the wrong way around.
Read up on what Whedon said to Gal Gadot. Don't think you'll be defending him after that
Making a film 2 hours as studio mandate doesn't justify the Steppenwolf design change or any of the other creative decisions taken, not to mention rewriting the 90% of the script. That was Whedon. He absolutely doesn't get a pass for all of this. Whedon cut it is.
Also #RestoreTheSnyderverse
DC has already made an official announcement that they would be releasing Justice League 2 and 3 directed by Zack Snyder. The SnyderVerse has been restored ❤️
Jaby koay and Archara kirk , i have small request is that to "hacksaw ridge" and i am eagerly waiting for ur review.
“Do you bleed?”
The Whedon cut was very much the Whedon cut. To make the film 2 hours or less he reshot so much and had so much things changed, yes he was in the editing room. So much useless shit he did.
Latest pitch meeting or Ryan George reaction plz...
it wasnt a cgi puddle...a green screen guy with huge boots walked through there
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I love jaby and achara...but god i hate when i see a reaction video of a reaction video.... Imagine if the latter decides to make a reaction video of the reaction video to the original reaction video.....🤯
Whedon literally reshot stuff and replaced things he didn’t need too if was trying to cut time he could’ve just tried to cut down this movie right here
Warner Bros Announces Two New Superman Movies With Henry Cavill
There's no merit to Josstice League at all. He rewrote and reshoots almost everything. And threaten Gal Gadot
The hot dog wasn't cgi tho
4:18 lol Hmm.... HHmm..
I watching snyder cut .. i was thinking about how to unwatch JL
Just have to say - I do like your faces when your brains are turned up to operating temperature for information gathering.
Freddie Wong*
Whedon didnt just finish the film! He ruined it!
I only say this.... @/restorethesnyderverse I want the rest of the movie parts.
and I want a Deathstroke movie
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Whedon did reshoots which were half of the original movie. If he just used old Snyder's footage in 2 hours then it would have been decent too but he did horrible reshoots with sexist shots and jokes like flash falling on diana's breasts or various ass shots and lines. So you can't defend him 🤷🏻♂️
thicc girl achara
There's even more interesting CGI moments that people probably didn't know about. From what I've read it seems that Superman's entire body was CGI during the fight with Steppenwolf. It seems that changing the color on his suit was more difficult to do compared to creating an entirely new CGI body.
Is the woman your wife?
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you reacted on a reaction video…. how many brain cells it required?
Lol you are really defending Joss? Dude, i dont think you have a clue about what went on behind the scenes…and yes Whedon did write the reshoots…
I actually think Aquaman is a bit better in 2017. There I said it!! Sorry, not sorry.
What is wrong with me, I am watching a video where people are reacting to a video in which people are reacting to a video.
Whedon had to keep the movie under 2 hour because of WB , Snyder had Full control over this. If this was 2 hour it would be exactly same movie with different colour and CG. Ans moreover Snyder cut is good but it's hype is only because the Whedon one was so Bad.
Well atleast it wouldn't have been the movie with the most terrible opening scene with a butchered face of Henry Cavill!
@@nikhiljacob358 well that never shouldn't have been there in the first place
@@rajasrathore163 You cannot have a justice league movie of 2 hours run time. You are supposed to introduce 23 new characters, 2 villain all this in just 2 hours? WB just fucked up. Having said that, Snydercut could be reduced to 3 hours for theatrical release. And my previous comment was to emphasis the fact that Whedon reshoots were ridiculous. Why bring back Cavill to shoot a scene that adds absolutely no value, spending all those money for cgi, literally wasting all those money. All his scenes were kind of useless. And so I believe 2 hour version of Snydercut would still be better than JL2017.
Reaction pe reaction chlra hai.. Vo vfx ko react krre hai or ye dono chaman unhe react krre hai... Wow.. Ye reaction dere hai unke reaction pe.. Wtf..
Stop defending Whedon.
nothing wrong with him
I think wb is the one to be blame coz they hired him than delayed the movie which is yeah he shoot some stupid scene that doesnt make scene
10:55 when you only have 2hrs as opposed to 4hrs, you gotta cut every bit of excess you can.
I don't fault him for these cuts, whos to say Whedon' woundn't have rather seen them hit the ground or the hammers swing longer as well, but 2hrs man...
He have to rewrite the script or the movie doenst make sense.
@@pabloespinoza6527 yeah!
people being such jerks.
Regardless of how he is as a person, it's separate from what he had to do on this movie.
hey dude where is your wife and kids? are you two divorse or something?
good riddance to the snyders DCEU
Wide screen is proper. Square screen is meh!
First?
Stop reacting on random crap react to hitman's bodyguard
No matter how good zack snyder movies look visually, his story and plot is always mediocre or bad...also none of his movies are fun to watch... it's awesome to watch but not fun with no plot or depth or story or climax...for example watchmen, 300, batman v superman, man of steel...also all his movies are so slowwwww...with unnecessary slow motions...
OK
Found the 12 year old
@@lukeevans6070 awww... did i hurt your feelings?
@@lukeevans6070 yes, his name is Snyder. Slo mo for a sesame seed?!? If everything is dynamic, nothing is. Flash literally groomed a chick he didn't know and pocketed a hot dog... profanity, black and gore is a childlike idea of dark.
His movies are more deep and filled with emotions..you might like shallow and cringe humour mcu type content..
I'm sorry but alot of the Snyder cut was Horrible Especially the Difference in Color and lighting
DC is famous for dark movies not colorful or bright
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