Yep, I think that this is the first time that I was a little confused at the beggining of a video... pretty much confused right at the middle...and absolutly crossed eyed at the end....
Before ____: It seems interesting. After ____: It seems distopic. ____ = a convoluted showcase. My suggestion is less face-time, less combination-time, and more transcription-time. How does one phrase goes between different filters, and what are their limits? I already know of the automatic-tech limits; this video should be about it's topic, foremost. (The informatics; not the interface mechanics nor their facial avatar.) Thnx4the showcase, tho.
My mother is a court reporter and whenever she's asked to confirm something from the record, she gets nervous because after doing it for so long she gets in the zone, and she thinks "did I actually write what they said earlier?" And sure enough she always does... always was super impressed it's like she knows a whole other language
@@onnikg they do not - depending on the type of hearing and the state/city, it is mandatory that you have a licensed stenographer to make a transcript of the session
Former court reporting tech support engineer here. Stenotype is an incredible skill. Typists pay a small fortune for their keyboards and the training and software necessary to read and execute the code they output. And due to being an extremely niche skill, they also have the ability to charge... pretty much what they want. So it's expensive to get into but well worth the payoff if you can manage the output. We actually did experiment, briefly, with the partial replacement of stenography by voice to text software (we used Dragon but there's a few decent ones). Initial tests were ... less than amazing. We figure that it COULD be done for a long-running case, with the caveat that you'd have to train each speaker with the software for a few hours beforehand, and be edited against the audio afterwards, but at that point, why aren't you just running a stenographer in the room in the first place? We did have some limited success using voice-to-text for remote depositions where we weren't able to secure a stenographer in time. But as Isabelle says, voice to text technology is nowhere near replicating the accuracy or versatility of a real stenographer.
I wonder if the open steno software and hardware coming out lately is going to eventually put pressure on the regular steno manufacturers, at least at the student level. I'm sure a $5k machine might be worth it when you're a professional court reporter, but I'd rather pay $100 to start with and see if I like it at all instead of paying $1k for a student machine.
@@TheStevenWhiting Typically, yes. Our stenograph typists often worked with another person editing the transcript next to them who had access to a recording of usually four, maximum eight, audio channels which were synchronised to the transcript editing software line-by-line. So you could get a live playback of the transcript immediately for editing, and export the audio for the transcript production team to match up to in case of later reported errors to be corrected. This also enabled our staff to finish earlier in the day since they had less need to stay behind in the office to finish editing. The real badass typists worked alone and did the editing live during pauses in conversation. Awesome to watch.
I’ve been studying court reporting for four years including through two minor brain injuries (one of them was when I hit my head on a metal safe and had to have a CAT scan). Right now I’m working on 200wpm
@@chrisleach4245 lol, no. For years the management had made it look like a speaker to play music in the customer service room. Then the new manager came in, she put all 30/40 walkies underneath the safe and then I was doing a closing shift. The assistant manager kept telling everyone to hurry and I slammed my head into the safe. I had a moment where it went all black. Several other people had said that they almost hit their head as the safe was at 5 foot 3 above the ground and I'm 5 foot 5. Two days later they were moving the walkies back to the other side away from under the safe. Yes, if I had hit my head on a speaker it would have hurt, but a stainless steel safe made to look like a speaker gave me symptoms for at least six months
i'm studying this now! it's so fascinating and so much fun! i agree it is an art that desperately needs more attention, so many people don't even know this is a potential career for them!
@@bellapoi soo true. I’m studying now for it. My sister has been doing it for over 20 years now and she still loves it. She works at a courthouse in Dallas making 135,000 a year with lots of freedom. I cannot wait to get there 😊
It's not a lost art. In fact, there is great demand for stenographers in the U.S. now. It's a wonderful career and I would encourage anyone who is interested to visit the National Court Reporters Association website to learn more about it.
Lol. It seems that way, but it’s not really that difficult. It’s all based off of phonetics. The left or initial side is for prefixes and the right or final side is for suffixes. This is taught later on in the theory. An EU pushed together makes an I. So hi would be HEU.
I used to be a communications assistant so I’d close caption for the deaf and or hearing impaired and man when I say I have respect for these guys. I was close captioning on a regular keyboard and I struggled. So to dive in and learn a whole new typing system is so cool and I respect it so much!!
Before COVID, when we still had in-person hearings, I would frequently introduce my client to the Court Reporter so they could see this process. Court Reporters are essential to our legal system, and educating the public is important!
Sat next to the person using a stenography machine who was adding captions live during a presentation I went to last year and I was so distracted in fascination watching them type that I couldn’t even tell you what the presentation was about.
im a court reporter and its literally like learning a different language. There's also multiple ways to spell different words. she spelled "zoo" as "SKAO" but on my machine, if i wanted to spell out "zoo" I would type it as "S*AO". It's complicated when you first learn because its a completely different way of typing, but you get used to it quickly.
I would use the whole left side of the keyboard for the letter Z and then, of course, add my AO for the "oo" sound. I'm a court reporter here in Chicago. Where are you located?
Wouldn't Speech to Text technology be a worry for you? You'd just need to be there to indicate/mark exactly who is speaking. Or eventually at some point every key person in the court would have their own lapel mic and the software would know which mic channel belongs to whom (Programmed in by operator) and automatically follow and activate when triggered by spoken word. As you stated in the video, this tech isn't perfect yet, but do you see the end to stenography within 10 years or what's your estimate on that?
@@DaBlueMonster I was a medical transcriptionist and one day when I felt bored, I decided to test out some speech to text technology. It... really has nothing on people. Accents, be it regional or language, are a bit too much for this technology. It has a loooong way to go.
@@DaBlueMonster No. Speech to text wouldn't have the capacity to interrupt somebody when they either don't hear something or more than one person is speaking at a time, which is all too common in most proceedings. Our profession will live on, I believe, for a very, very long while.
@@quackityalt7213 lol. It is not easy to learn. There's a 97% dropout rate in court reporting schools. And QWERTY keyboards only type at 60 to 100 WPM, which isn't helpful when you need to capture people who talk at 140 to 300 WPM.
@@Sora_Abyss Yes, there is an abysmal failure rate, which is the reason why stenographers are in such high demand and why they get paid well. It's technically easier to become an attorney than to become a court reporter.
@@quackityalt7213 Honey read the comment above us, no matter how fast your typing speed is a qwerty keyboard won't cut it. Or watch the video at least lmao
Basically, instead of typing out words letter by letter like you would on a QWERTY keyboard, words are typed by pressing down multiple letters at once, kind of like if you were playing a chord on a piano. Each word is a "chord" with a different letter combination, so in order to be fluent at stenography you essentially have to memorise a small dictionary of letter combinations.
Thank You! I'm watching a court documentary and I've always wondered how does that thing make words. Yours was the 1st video I clicked on, very well spoken, very well explained in a short space of time. You make it look so easy, yet I know I'd never be able to learn it (looks too hard). I always thought this machine was used so others in court couldn't read it lol :)
I was thinking the same thing. Since people who are blind (or at least, those who were blind during childhood) are exposed to typing with multiple keys at once when they first begin learning to write and type, I wonder if this would come easier to them. It seems like the career might be a good one for blind individuals. Especially since with modern tech, the computer can read back what was written, so they don't need a braille display or something to be able to read what they typed.
@@ps374249 interesting thought. but i think a blind person doesn't have the connection between alphabetical letters and their phonetic sound. Also the keys are blank and all feel the same. And they can't backwards-check their work because they can't read (backwards reading is gonna be a mess) you made a good point though :)
prosecutor: the suspect was seen pacing around llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogochrailway station wearing a hoodie... Stenographer: FML
When I was in college I remember Court reporter students with their machines practicing. The output however was on a paper strip like a cash register recit tape. This was like 1974.
@@lillypatterson2590 WOW!! I would say that sounds like magic (and it DOES). It also reminds me of how I can play piano while I’m thinking of something else entirely lol. I’m reading the notes, playing the keys, and completely zoned out lol
You could have keyboard stickers. Right now, i don't look at my QUERTY keyboard due to muscle memory, which improves efficency, even with my two fingers.
Can I ask you some questions about your job?? I’m interested in transferring to this position in the future but want more information from someone who actually does this for a living.
@@ArmoniSloan Funny enough, I had a friend in court reporting school who could type faster than anybody else on a typewriter but couldn't pick up the actual machine, so she ended up dropping out.
I’ve always been curious about the machine used and the process. I learned Pitman stenography in secretarial school.. a handwritten “shorthand”. That WAS another language and at 70, I can still write in stenography. This, however, is amazing to me. My hats off to court reporters!!
My elderly mother is a retired court stenographer. She used to be incredibly fast and accurate at shorthand, then decided to try this. She studied for 4-5 years, (while still a secretary at a major aircraft plant), took her State exams, and became a highly respected court reporter for many years. Finally had to retire because of carpal tunnel. She made good money at this, tho! And, really enjoyed it. Even thought of moving to Alaska because they pay about 3-4 times as much as lower 48!
Wonderful! Now I can see that I probably should’ve learned this. I’m old af. Learned typing in a high school class on a non-electric (don’t get me started) typewriter. There’s a whole system that taught touch typing. Each key was assigned to a certain finger and if you learned it you could type very fast, which was important in the dark ages. At interviews for clerical jobs you took a timed typing test. I got up to 80-85 wpm. Leveled out and stayed 70 wpm for years. Also typed accurately without looking at the keyboard, which was also expected, bc a lot of time you’d be typing up something from a handwritten page. Some older offices were a-holes bc they didn’t want you to use liquid paper (white out), but they got over that. Imagine typing up something you needed copies of before copiers were invented and made common. We had to use carbon paper. Sometimes you needed 3 copies so you’d have 3 sheets of typing paper and in between them 2 sheets of carbon. That crap smeared all over your hands; we had special cleaner. First office I worked at that had a copier (1976) I nearly cried. THEN, worked someplace that used QUIP. Forerunner of the fax machine. Only took 6 minutes to send an entire page! We were so psyched when we got a new one that only took 4 minutes per page! (1979). Operated a telex machine (it made what they called ticker tape) to send instant messages to customs or govt offices. Just a few years later came the fax (no one would take JUST a fax-it was ok to use as a guide or draft, but didn’t count if it was a legal contract that needed a “real” signature. So glad that changed). Then computers-on desks. Email. Damn! So much easier. You should’ve heard what my mom used in the 40’s-60’s. Not much different than I used in the 70’s! Except electric typewriters.
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺 I also read whole thing - thank you tor the nostalgic trip down memory lane - I remember most of this stuff - my (school aged) children are mystified by the concept of carbon paper and my efforts to teach them touch typing were not great 😊 Also good to hear ‘zed’ instead of ‘zee’ on TH-cam.
@@orye09 oh hells yeah. Beating the keys. Typed letters, etc, was THE way. Getting the USPS. Overnight mail was unheard of. Federal express (FEDEX) started in 73 but you were pretty dang important and swanky to use it.
Did you go to school for it or were you trained on the job? I have my BS in Criminal Justice and applied for a court reporting position, and have an interview next week. Worried that I won't pick it up easily at all.
@@trumpetplayerdude9838 agreed, I was watching more videos of this, and this is so much harder. I though it was kind of easy like normal typing but only like a little harder. But nope, this takes a long time to learn and process. So hard.
@@trumpetplayerdude9838 I disagree. Stenos are only accounting for words said, it's one distinct element of sound. In playing an instrument, you've got to account for so many more elements of sound. If it were just pitch and rhythm, the 2 might be comparable, but when you add in dynamics, articulation, and tempo you're talking about replicating 5 things at once. It's not that stenography isn't hard, it's just comparing completely different things.
@@ps374249 exactly my thought. one is just information saving and the other is making music which is much more complicated. one could argue tho that getting a sense of which key sounds like which tone is easier on a piano
My dad raised me in 10 countries with free first class flights, no security checks at airports, powerful diplomatic passports, the best schools, no taxes anywhere and more. All from being a stenographer in international relations.
My mum was a court clerk. She usually handled all the exhibits, but sometimes she would have to record proceedings. She audio recorded all proceedings and handwrote notes using shorthand. She did not know stenography, and most court clerks did not use it. This is in Canada. Unfortunately, she basically got carpal tunnel.
Maybe to uncomplicate it, think of it as a musical instrument. You press different keys at the same time and get different sounds. This is very similar. It would take practice like anything but over time, you would get better at understanding it.
I am a 77 yr old retired printer. I can touch type on a qwerty keyboard. Also on a Linotype hot metal newspaper machine. Totally different layout. I guess it would be similar to a driver jumping out of his Mini car and straight into his 16 wheeler articulated wagon. It just comes automatically. 😆
For live tv subtitles, that's what they use. Stenographers are really expensive though. Like 5000$ at most. But you can learn with your current keyboard and software you can find online. I want to learn this because I want to take notes without seeing the many typos, missing notes, or the chicken scratch I'm ashamed to call handwriting.
Court use stenographer in court as stenographer can type words with few strokes in a few seconds while with regular typewriter, a word is typed "per letter" which can be a quarter of a minute for an average person.
All respect to stenographers who do this daily and for even trials. Can you imagine trial hearings the length and many people speaking. That’s some skills!
My grandma was a stenographer in WWII. In the 2003 she saw a new electronic stenograph with a screen. She hadn’t used one in decades. She sat in front of ir examined it and bam went to work. She said it was like riding a bike.
Just did a (qwerty) typing test and I can push about 100 WPM, which puts me in the top 1%. These guys power out 225 WPM without breaking a sweat?! Absolutely incredible stuff. I'm proud of my typing skills and this is extremely humbling! What an amazing skill.
My mom was a court stenographer for 30+ years and she just used a yellow pad, pen, and her recorder. Earlier in her work career, they used typewriters and they had to put liquid eraser on their mistakes. They also have their own alphabet which made taking notes easier and faster.
@@lillypatterson2590 I go to Alfred taste college in NY but I do my program online. They have online and in person options button the in person the stuffs that in person is your prerequisites not real aging to court reporting but you need to take like English, medical terms, etc. the actual court reporting major you’re learning online but when you do in person the teacher is in her office on the floor below to give you advice.
I could never do that. If someone is a court reporter back then does this on a typewriter, they’re probably typing 500 strokes a minute if there’s a lot of people speaking
Watched someone type on one of these today, it looked like she was playing the piano. I came on TH-cam to look up how it works and I still can’t wrap my head around it.
Okay so you know how certain anime movies have a dubover and subtitle translations, which usually don't line up with each other especially with Ghibli movies? I was subtitling Kiki's Delivery Service the other day and it was taking upwards of an hour to get 10 minutes done. And I thought, "there has to be a better way". I'm going to try to learn stenography for the sole purpose of more easily making a subtitle track that matches the dub.
wow i didn't realise stenographers had special keyboards! I'm a linguist so when she said one side was for initial consonants and one side was for final consonants i got confused bc there weren't enough keys, but i see that the keyboard is designed so that you don't have to move your fingers as much, thus saving you time between keys and allowing you to type much faster.
Yeah you get extra consonants by pressing multiple keys at once. It is set up so that the most common letters (R, S, etc) just take one key and less common ones (X, Z) require a combination of keys.
That is awesome. I had an aunt who was court reporter back in the day. It always looked like she was just pecking at the keys. Thanks to this video I know how it works. This is a good skill to learn. Captionists are needed more than people think.
This is fascinating! I studied interpreting (translating orally), where you take note while someone speaks and then translate what was said. It is a difficult exercice too. We don’t use stenography because each language has its own structure and focusing too lunch on that would lead to more mistakes during the translation process.
My mother was a keypunch operator for Sears. It punched holes into cards which were then put into a computer the size of a Buick. I learned to type on a blind typewriter. (It has no letters or symbols on any keys) Mom taught us kids to type very young. So in Jr. High and High School I always took typing class for the easy A. I averaged 85 words per minute with no errors. Most businesses at the time required 45 words per minute to qualify for a job. But I never used it as a professional. I became a aircraft technician instead.
Ok I remember reading how they can type 200 words a minute....and I just thought "Holy crap that is insanely fast!!!" I never even considered they used a different keyboard....
@@klugg3389 adding onto your comment: the type of writing they use most commonly was Gregg Shorthand which was actually a class in some American schools so that students could take notes faster
I'm selected to sit on 5 week trial as a juror, and I was just curious how they typed so fast... I had absolutely no idea that this is the machine they used!! I thought they were just really fast typists on a standard keyboard. this is insane! Much respect for them!
I myself is a court stenographer but i use gregg shorthand instead, it means that i use pen and paper. We only have to choose one technique because it is quite hard to even master one of these. The scariest thing is that when you hear something like a counsel is requesting you to read back something which was said long way back.
i remember when our first year in steno we used to read loudly as a group on what our teacher wrote on board,we sound like a first grader trying to learn how to read 🙉
I've been a certified court reporter for 53 years. I have never "typed" on my Stenograph machine. I have always written every word spoken; however, I do "type" on an IBM Selectric typewriter or even on my Lenovo laptop.
Me before watching this video: “Oh cool, how does it work?”
Me after watching this video: “Oh cool, how does it work?”
Are you really the FBI??
User name does NOT check out lol
When the FBI is confused you know it's complicated
Yep, I think that this is the first time that I was a little confused at the beggining of a video... pretty much confused right at the middle...and absolutly crossed eyed at the end....
Before ____: It seems interesting.
After ____: It seems distopic.
____ = a convoluted showcase.
My suggestion is less face-time, less combination-time, and more transcription-time. How does one phrase goes between different filters, and what are their limits? I already know of the automatic-tech limits; this video should be about it's topic, foremost. (The informatics; not the interface mechanics nor their facial avatar.) Thnx4the showcase, tho.
My mother is a court reporter and whenever she's asked to confirm something from the record, she gets nervous because after doing it for so long she gets in the zone, and she thinks "did I actually write what they said earlier?" And sure enough she always does... always was super impressed it's like she knows a whole other language
That’s AMAZING 🤩
It is a whole other language. She's awesome!
That's incredible actually.
Now, do they use recorder?
@@onnikg they do not - depending on the type of hearing and the state/city, it is mandatory that you have a licensed stenographer to make a transcript of the session
Judge: "Can you read back what was said to the court."
Stenographer: "hoffhaohfuabiubluabcauealkjhdiafh;ioehaijd;basdhg"
Delivery's all wrong, butchered it
😂
The judge would totally understand it
Hey isn't that a Welsh town name?
@@StevenRockwood No I think you're referring to ayzgsjalsosowkwjahgdxysmwozyfhwnqofuyci299exxj6261
Former court reporting tech support engineer here. Stenotype is an incredible skill. Typists pay a small fortune for their keyboards and the training and software necessary to read and execute the code they output. And due to being an extremely niche skill, they also have the ability to charge... pretty much what they want. So it's expensive to get into but well worth the payoff if you can manage the output.
We actually did experiment, briefly, with the partial replacement of stenography by voice to text software (we used Dragon but there's a few decent ones). Initial tests were ... less than amazing. We figure that it COULD be done for a long-running case, with the caveat that you'd have to train each speaker with the software for a few hours beforehand, and be edited against the audio afterwards, but at that point, why aren't you just running a stenographer in the room in the first place?
We did have some limited success using voice-to-text for remote depositions where we weren't able to secure a stenographer in time. But as Isabelle says, voice to text technology is nowhere near replicating the accuracy or versatility of a real stenographer.
I wonder if the open steno software and hardware coming out lately is going to eventually put pressure on the regular steno manufacturers, at least at the student level. I'm sure a $5k machine might be worth it when you're a professional court reporter, but I'd rather pay $100 to start with and see if I like it at all instead of paying $1k for a student machine.
Do they audio record the cases as well? So if needed a stenographer could refer back to the recorded tapes?
@@TheStevenWhiting Typically, yes. Our stenograph typists often worked with another person editing the transcript next to them who had access to a recording of usually four, maximum eight, audio channels which were synchronised to the transcript editing software line-by-line. So you could get a live playback of the transcript immediately for editing, and export the audio for the transcript production team to match up to in case of later reported errors to be corrected. This also enabled our staff to finish earlier in the day since they had less need to stay behind in the office to finish editing.
The real badass typists worked alone and did the editing live during pauses in conversation. Awesome to watch.
Have you guys tried newer AI technology? It doesn't seem like a skill that couldn't be replaced by AI in a few years...
you can now buy one for like $50 lol
I’ve been studying court reporting for four years including through two minor brain injuries (one of them was when I hit my head on a metal safe and had to have a CAT scan). Right now I’m working on 200wpm
The safe didn’t fall from the sky and say Acme on it did it?
@@chrisleach4245 lol, no.
For years the management had made it look like a speaker to play music in the customer service room. Then the new manager came in, she put all 30/40 walkies underneath the safe and then I was doing a closing shift. The assistant manager kept telling everyone to hurry and I slammed my head into the safe. I had a moment where it went all black. Several other people had said that they almost hit their head as the safe was at 5 foot 3 above the ground and I'm 5 foot 5. Two days later they were moving the walkies back to the other side away from under the safe. Yes, if I had hit my head on a speaker it would have hurt, but a stainless steel safe made to look like a speaker gave me symptoms for at least six months
My brain capacity cant handle this bye
Bruh 🤣
Literally me !!
Aaha
The combination of your comment and profile picture is pure gold 😂😂
I also decided this about 10 secs in 🤯
My mom did this for 35 years! I used to read to her when I was little and she would practice her stenography.. such a fond memory and a lost art.
i'm studying this now! it's so fascinating and so much fun! i agree it is an art that desperately needs more attention, so many people don't even know this is a potential career for them!
@@bellapoi soo true. I’m studying now for it. My sister has been doing it for over 20 years now and she still loves it. She works at a courthouse in Dallas making 135,000 a year with lots of freedom. I cannot wait to get there 😊
It’s not lost! I’m in school for it now. There’s a very big niche community of court reporters and students. Your mom sounds awesome.
@@Etta319 does she have other job duties? genuinely curious what the job entails for that kind of pay
It's not a lost art. In fact, there is great demand for stenographers in the U.S. now. It's a wonderful career and I would encourage anyone who is interested to visit the National Court Reporters Association website to learn more about it.
Defendant in court room: *"Hi."*
Court reporter on typewriter: *"STWHKPSORWTHUSRSPEKCTCTKRPWSTKPWRPPHTWRKSKRWTSTEKHRWT"*
LMFAOOOOO
LMAOOO
Lol. It seems that way, but it’s not really that difficult. It’s all based off of phonetics. The left or initial side is for prefixes and the right or final side is for suffixes. This is taught later on in the theory. An EU pushed together makes an I. So hi would be HEU.
Its still amazing
fun fact, im pretty sure it'd be "HAOEU" so yeah ure not wrong
I used to be a communications assistant so I’d close caption for the deaf and or hearing impaired and man when I say I have respect for these guys. I was close captioning on a regular keyboard and I struggled. So to dive in and learn a whole new typing system is so cool and I respect it so much!!
Before COVID, when we still had in-person hearings, I would frequently introduce my client to the Court Reporter so they could see this process. Court Reporters are essential to our legal system, and educating the public is important!
Thank you, Counsel 🙏
Make the difficult yet necessary decision to wrap up your stay here on earth
@@M-ps6vetf is wrong with u?
Sat next to the person using a stenography machine who was adding captions live during a presentation I went to last year and I was so distracted in fascination watching them type that I couldn’t even tell you what the presentation was about.
That would be me. Watching people type is satisfying, and fascinating on a different keyboard or language.
girl i just woke up my brain cant handle this rn
I've been awake all day and my brain can't handle this
i just had coffee and still lost all energy for the day.
And she talkin a lil too fast.. Wait a min I gotta collect my 2 braincells
My brain cells already left the chat
Then why are you watching this?
im a court reporter and its literally like learning a different language. There's also multiple ways to spell different words. she spelled "zoo" as "SKAO" but on my machine, if i wanted to spell out "zoo" I would type it as "S*AO". It's complicated when you first learn because its a completely different way of typing, but you get used to it quickly.
Agreed! I would spell zoo as SKPWAO. I get confused myself when I try to explain it to people lol
I would use the whole left side of the keyboard for the letter Z and then, of course, add my AO for the "oo" sound. I'm a court reporter here in Chicago. Where are you located?
Wouldn't Speech to Text technology be a worry for you? You'd just need to be there to indicate/mark exactly who is speaking. Or eventually at some point every key person in the court would have their own lapel mic and the software would know which mic channel belongs to whom (Programmed in by operator) and automatically follow and activate when triggered by spoken word. As you stated in the video, this tech isn't perfect yet, but do you see the end to stenography within 10 years or what's your estimate on that?
@@DaBlueMonster I was a medical transcriptionist and one day when I felt bored, I decided to test out some speech to text technology. It... really has nothing on people. Accents, be it regional or language, are a bit too much for this technology. It has a loooong way to go.
@@DaBlueMonster No. Speech to text wouldn't have the capacity to interrupt somebody when they either don't hear something or more than one person is speaking at a time, which is all too common in most proceedings. Our profession will live on, I believe, for a very, very long while.
I’m back two years later and I’m still just as blown away.
Even being a physicist, I have never come across this much technicality. Hats off to stenographers or whatever you call it.🤯
Respect for stenographers: 📈
@@quackityalt7213 lol. It is not easy to learn. There's a 97% dropout rate in court reporting schools. And QWERTY keyboards only type at 60 to 100 WPM, which isn't helpful when you need to capture people who talk at 140 to 300 WPM.
@@Sora_Abyss Yes, there is an abysmal failure rate, which is the reason why stenographers are in such high demand and why they get paid well. It's technically easier to become an attorney than to become a court reporter.
@@quackityalt7213 you saying it's easier to use a normal keyboard for court reporting just shows you don't know anything about it
@@crystal-9247 or it shows that u have a slow typing speed
@@quackityalt7213 Honey read the comment above us, no matter how fast your typing speed is a qwerty keyboard won't cut it. Or watch the video at least lmao
Watched the whole video and still don't get it. Think I will stick to my normal keyboard.
Yeah this went over my head too !!
Glad I wasn't the only one!
basically its based off of phonetics
Basically, instead of typing out words letter by letter like you would on a QWERTY keyboard, words are typed by pressing down multiple letters at once, kind of like if you were playing a chord on a piano. Each word is a "chord" with a different letter combination, so in order to be fluent at stenography you essentially have to memorise a small dictionary of letter combinations.
@@FirstLast-uj9ud INSANE
Person: hello to everyone
Court reporter be like: HEHRHRO TO ESRERKWROTPHE
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been laughing at this for 6 minutes
@@lillypatterson2590 lmao I caught that 🤣🤣
But who records what the stenographer is saying when they’re asked to read something back?
The steten.
Oh wow!! How funny, I never thought of that. Good point 👍🏼
The matrix glitches.
My question is, what about those Stenographers who appear to be "speaking into a cone-shaped recorder"....
Nobody writes it down when they read back the court minutes
Thank You! I'm watching a court documentary and I've always wondered how does that thing make words. Yours was the 1st video I clicked on, very well spoken, very well explained in a short space of time. You make it look so easy, yet I know I'd never be able to learn it (looks too hard).
I always thought this machine was used so others in court couldn't read it lol :)
the minimal keys keyboard almost looks like a braille writer!
Yeah! This really intrigued me!
I was thinking the same thing. Since people who are blind (or at least, those who were blind during childhood) are exposed to typing with multiple keys at once when they first begin learning to write and type, I wonder if this would come easier to them. It seems like the career might be a good one for blind individuals. Especially since with modern tech, the computer can read back what was written, so they don't need a braille display or something to be able to read what they typed.
@@ps374249 interesting thought. but i think a blind person doesn't have the connection between alphabetical letters and their phonetic sound. Also the keys are blank and all feel the same. And they can't backwards-check their work because they can't read (backwards reading is gonna be a mess)
you made a good point though :)
Off topic but I really love your profile picture.
prosecutor: the suspect was seen pacing around llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogochrailway station wearing a hoodie...
Stenographer: FML
Made my day! Thanks
*briefs have entered the chat*
Seriously, clean steno is all in the prep work
FmL = wearing a hoodie, nice brief
Is this joke in Welsh?
You know that has to be the final exam for all Welsh court reporters 😂😂
This is a great profession, ya'll! I'm a court reporter, and I love my job. There's a reporter shortage so there's plenty of work as of now.
Good to know!
Agreed! I'm a court reporter too. We need more reporters!
I bet it really is awesome seeing what happens in the courts first hand !!
How much do you make?
I'm planning on becoming a scopist.
This is like algebra level maths and I'm not even at this level.
When I was in college I remember Court reporter students with their machines practicing. The output however was on a paper strip like a cash register recit tape.
This was like 1974.
Imagine just forgetting the letter placement in the middle of it and you're just sitting there like 👁️👄👁️
well... you can always write them down on the actual keys so you don't have to memorise it too much
@@lillypatterson2590 WOW!! I would say that sounds like magic (and it DOES). It also reminds me of how I can play piano while I’m thinking of something else entirely lol. I’m reading the notes, playing the keys, and completely zoned out lol
@@lillypatterson2590 oh wow, it’d be cool to try someday!
Lol that would be horrible, but luckily I think the stenographers would be more than competent by the time they end up in a courtroom - hopefully.. XD
You could have keyboard stickers. Right now, i don't look at my QUERTY keyboard due to muscle memory, which improves efficency, even with my two fingers.
I’m a stenographer!! I love everything steno and I love my job!! You did a great job describing our machine! And you can make great money doing this!!
Can I ask you some questions about your job?? I’m interested in transferring to this position in the future but want more information from someone who actually does this for a living.
@@rosemarycanlapan4206 sure! Check out some of my Steno videos and ask away! I promise it’s one of the greatest careers out there!
@@rosemarycanlapan4206 Did you start?
I'm so glad I never became a court reporter, smh.
It would’ve been very interesting to me. I love that machine!
People would always tell me to because I type fast, but this is next level !!
@@ArmoniSloan Funny enough, I had a friend in court reporting school who could type faster than anybody else on a typewriter but couldn't pick up the actual machine, so she ended up dropping out.
@@loveforeignaccents Oh my goshhhhhhhh , that's pretty intense .
Do they still do stenography virtual court?
I’ve always been curious about the machine used and the process. I learned Pitman stenography in secretarial school.. a handwritten “shorthand”. That WAS another language and at 70, I can still write in stenography. This, however, is amazing to me. My hats off to court reporters!!
My elderly mother is a retired court stenographer. She used to be incredibly fast and accurate at shorthand, then decided to try this. She studied for 4-5 years, (while still a secretary at a major aircraft plant), took her State exams, and became a highly respected court reporter for many years. Finally had to retire because of carpal tunnel. She made good money at this, tho! And, really enjoyed it. Even thought of moving to Alaska because they pay about 3-4 times as much as lower 48!
Wonderful! Now I can see that I probably should’ve learned this. I’m old af. Learned typing in a high school class on a non-electric (don’t get me started) typewriter. There’s a whole system that taught touch typing. Each key was assigned to a certain finger and if you learned it you could type very fast, which was important in the dark ages. At interviews for clerical jobs you took a timed typing test. I got up to 80-85 wpm. Leveled out and stayed 70 wpm for years. Also typed accurately without looking at the keyboard, which was also expected, bc a lot of time you’d be typing up something from a handwritten page. Some older offices were a-holes bc they didn’t want you to use liquid paper (white out), but they got over that. Imagine typing up something you needed copies of before copiers were invented and made common. We had to use carbon paper. Sometimes you needed 3 copies so you’d have 3 sheets of typing paper and in between them 2 sheets of carbon. That crap smeared all over your hands; we had special cleaner. First office I worked at that had a copier (1976) I nearly cried. THEN, worked someplace that used QUIP. Forerunner of the fax machine. Only took 6 minutes to send an entire page! We were so psyched when we got a new one that only took 4 minutes per page! (1979). Operated a telex machine (it made what they called ticker tape) to send instant messages to customs or govt offices. Just a few years later came the fax (no one would take JUST a fax-it was ok to use as a guide or draft, but didn’t count if it was a legal contract that needed a “real” signature. So glad that changed). Then computers-on desks. Email. Damn! So much easier. You should’ve heard what my mom used in the 40’s-60’s. Not much different than I used in the 70’s! Except electric typewriters.
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺 I also read whole thing - thank you tor the nostalgic trip down memory lane - I remember most of this stuff - my (school aged) children are mystified by the concept of carbon paper and my efforts to teach them touch typing were not great 😊 Also good to hear ‘zed’ instead of ‘zee’ on TH-cam.
I love the effort you’ve put in to share this amazing story bout your experiences
So that’s why they’re always banging on those dang typewriters in the background of Mad Men lol
@@orye09 oh hells yeah. Beating the keys. Typed letters, etc, was THE way. Getting the USPS. Overnight mail was unheard of. Federal express (FEDEX) started in 73 but you were pretty dang important and swanky to use it.
I felt like I read a documentary!
It's like riding a bike but when you turn right, the tire went left
one can learn that too...
it's more like riding a bike but when you turn right, the bicycle bursts into flames, turns into a unicycle and flips upside down
I think reverse bike is easier than stenography 😅
It's like riding a bicycle and to go right you turn right, but to go left you slam both brakes and ring the bell for some reason
when she said "Z" instead of "Z" i felt that.
Zed!!
She's canadian
I found it so odd when I'd watch American shows or movies they'd say "zee" . In my 25 years I've always come across people who say "zed"
Zed I thought she was German
What's the difference between this "Z" and this "Z" 🤣😂?Jk
I pronounce it as Zed too but I didn't expect her to pronounce it like that at first😜.
I’m a court reporter (my first year) and I really had to push myself to the limits. It was hard for me to learn steno but I don’t regret it 😊
I'm thinking of heading back to school to finish. I was at 140 speed. Do you make good money? Is work still available?
Did you go to school for it or were you trained on the job? I have my BS in Criminal Justice and applied for a court reporting position, and have an interview next week. Worried that I won't pick it up easily at all.
@@shayleeboo12yes you go to school for it and have to be licensed.
My local court house have these handheld devices that the stenographer holds over her mouth and talks in to transcribe.
This is harder than a piano. And I've never played piano in my life.
I wouldn't say that, but definitely really hard.
@@RainbowQuartz2.0 as a piano player this is much harder
@@trumpetplayerdude9838 agreed, I was watching more videos of this, and this is so much harder. I though it was kind of easy like normal typing but only like a little harder. But nope, this takes a long time to learn and process. So hard.
@@trumpetplayerdude9838 I disagree. Stenos are only accounting for words said, it's one distinct element of sound. In playing an instrument, you've got to account for so many more elements of sound. If it were just pitch and rhythm, the 2 might be comparable, but when you add in dynamics, articulation, and tempo you're talking about replicating 5 things at once.
It's not that stenography isn't hard, it's just comparing completely different things.
@@ps374249 exactly my thought. one is just information saving and the other is making music which is much more complicated.
one could argue tho that getting a sense of which key sounds like which tone is easier on a piano
My dad raised me in 10 countries with free first class flights, no security checks at airports, powerful diplomatic passports, the best schools, no taxes anywhere and more. All from being a stenographer in international relations.
Is your dad looking to adopt?
@@strawberrymilk113 lmaooo yes pls adopt us
@@strawberrymilk113 right? Don’t forget me u guys I wanna come too 😩
Sooo do I just need a degree in International Relations with a minor in stenography? Im trying to live that good life😅
Hello, I'm your long lost brother
I clicked on this with complete confidence I was going to understand immediately. I was wrong.
This’d be too stressful for me 😰
Major respect to the stenographers who can do this with ease. 👍
My mum was a court clerk. She usually handled all the exhibits, but sometimes she would have to record proceedings. She audio recorded all proceedings and handwrote notes using shorthand. She did not know stenography, and most court clerks did not use it. This is in Canada. Unfortunately, she basically got carpal tunnel.
it seems so complicated
Maybe to uncomplicate it, think of it as a musical instrument. You press different keys at the same time and get different sounds. This is very similar. It would take practice like anything but over time, you would get better at understanding it.
Not at all.
I think so too ! Maybe it just takes practice!
@@dashkatae Exactly, like a piano.
@@dashkatae the video didnt explain it to me at all because it was a bit too complex, you've explained it perfectly
I’ll stick to my regular keyboard halfway through the trial I’d tell the judge “ I haven’t typed a damn thing” lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When you lie on your resume and still get the job.
😂😂
Woah, I didn't even know this thing exist. Stenographers in our country use handwritten shortcuts and translate it by themselves.
That's the way I learned it too. In some institutions this is still done with speeches.
You must have a super memory to remember all of that! You go girl!
I thought this would be easy to watch, and now I’m looking sideways and scratching my head at the same time
*TBH* I didn't even know this career exists until this video came out.
Me too. I didnt even know that it is needed in the court...
I have always wondered how this works, and after watching this video twice...I'm still just as confused.
Sameeeee. I've always been curious about how it works but after watching this I'm 0_0
This must take a lot of practice to master. Truly impressed by anyone who can take this on. I zone out way too easily to ever be able to do this.
I am a 77 yr old retired printer. I can touch type on a qwerty keyboard. Also on a Linotype hot metal newspaper machine. Totally different layout. I guess it would be similar to a driver jumping out of his Mini car and straight into his 16 wheeler articulated wagon. It just comes automatically. 😆
me as subtitle writer: I WANT THAT MACHINE.
👍
For live tv subtitles, that's what they use. Stenographers are really expensive though. Like 5000$ at most. But you can learn with your current keyboard and software you can find online. I want to learn this because I want to take notes without seeing the many typos, missing notes, or the chicken scratch I'm ashamed to call handwriting.
lowkey mindblowing that people can do this and that it's so much faster
Lowkeys are the vowels
WAIT OMG I WASN'T READY FOR THIS!! 👁️👄👁️ I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY TYPED LIKE NORMAL !!
Yeah, I would just be the lawyer. If not, I’d be the guy saying “Your honor, I’m not guilty,”
Court use stenographer in court as stenographer can type words with few strokes in a few seconds while with regular typewriter, a word is typed "per letter" which can be a quarter of a minute for an average person.
All respect to stenographers who do this daily and for even trials. Can you imagine trial hearings the length and many people speaking. That’s some skills!
I'm trying to comprehend this at past 1am so I'm just gonna give up and proceed with the cooking video and starve myself.
or you should go shave your mustache!
@@adambuccaschie9297 I will look like a girl
@@iamenuj are you not? Lol
@@adambuccaschie9297 if I was a girl, I would be offended. Fortuntely, I'm a boy. Yey
Wow, I had no idea that they weren't typing on a regular keyboard!!! Guess I just never thought of it before. I have much respect for them now!
These people deserve more recognition in court
why?
Or a longer sentence.
The recognition is printed on the paycheck right after the $ symbol.
You want a standing ovation for them after the hearing or something? What a weird comment.
My grandma was a stenographer in WWII. In the 2003 she saw a new electronic stenograph with a screen. She hadn’t used one in decades. She sat in front of ir examined it and bam went to work. She said it was like riding a bike.
@H Deutsches Stenographenschaft
You gave me hope! I'm thinking about going back to court reporting after being gone for 12 years.
Just did a (qwerty) typing test and I can push about 100 WPM, which puts me in the top 1%.
These guys power out 225 WPM without breaking a sweat?! Absolutely incredible stuff. I'm proud of my typing skills and this is extremely humbling! What an amazing skill.
You probably type faster than they do
My mom was a court stenographer for 30+ years and she just used a yellow pad, pen, and her recorder. Earlier in her work career, they used typewriters and they had to put liquid eraser on their mistakes. They also have their own alphabet which made taking notes easier and faster.
Their own alphabet.. lol.. are you referring to shorthand? Lol
I’m in court reporting school and I follow her. She does a great job at explaining and I watch her vids when I start to feel unmotivated.
@@lillypatterson2590 I go to Alfred taste college in NY but I do my program online. They have online and in person options button the in person the stuffs that in person is your prerequisites not real aging to court reporting but you need to take like English, medical terms, etc. the actual court reporting major you’re learning online but when you do in person the teacher is in her office on the floor below to give you advice.
Ohh I just got a profound respect for this job....gurrrrrrl
I was NOT…expecting this girl to be that pretty..Lord have mercy 🥴
You are talented. I wondered how this worked. I can’t imagine ever seeing that machine as you do.
Bravo!
I could never do that. If someone is a court reporter back then does this on a typewriter, they’re probably typing 500 strokes a minute if there’s a lot of people speaking
Jennifer : Hello im Jennifer
Court reporter: HEHRHRO EUPL SKWRETPHTPHEUTPER
you really like this format of commenting huh? another comment of yours with person: hello to everyone is literally above this one lmao
@@gerry7860 i literally have other 4 comments bout that, is not like i want likes just only i like the joke :]
My girl, that’s a whole other language.. I can’t even speak English properly😂 but I really thought court reporters use normal keyboards though ahah
Watched someone type on one of these today, it looked like she was playing the piano. I came on TH-cam to look up how it works and I still can’t wrap my head around it.
Okay so you know how certain anime movies have a dubover and subtitle translations, which usually don't line up with each other especially with Ghibli movies?
I was subtitling Kiki's Delivery Service the other day and it was taking upwards of an hour to get 10 minutes done.
And I thought, "there has to be a better way".
I'm going to try to learn stenography for the sole purpose of more easily making a subtitle track that matches the dub.
wow i didn't realise stenographers had special keyboards! I'm a linguist so when she said one side was for initial consonants and one side was for final consonants i got confused bc there weren't enough keys, but i see that the keyboard is designed so that you don't have to move your fingers as much, thus saving you time between keys and allowing you to type much faster.
Yeah you get extra consonants by pressing multiple keys at once. It is set up so that the most common letters (R, S, etc) just take one key and less common ones (X, Z) require a combination of keys.
You are exactly right
I can type over 225 words per minute as long as every word is "a"
😂
Now, what if a type racer who types at over 200WPM learn to use stenograph?
Wow I’ve always been so interested in the one typing in court.
That is awesome. I had an aunt who was court reporter back in the day. It always looked like she was just pecking at the keys. Thanks to this video I know how it works. This is a good skill to learn. Captionists are needed more than people think.
imma sprinkle some catnip on one of these so my cat rolls all over it and just watch her poetry come alive
Going back to serial documentary court trials and stunned by how this is how they type.
This is fascinating! I studied interpreting (translating orally), where you take note while someone speaks and then translate what was said. It is a difficult exercice too. We don’t use stenography because each language has its own structure and focusing too lunch on that would lead to more mistakes during the translation process.
Me: keysmashing
court reporter: *thats so deep*
My mother was a keypunch operator for Sears. It punched holes into cards which were then put into a computer the size of a Buick.
I learned to type on a blind typewriter. (It has no letters or symbols on any keys) Mom taught us kids to type very young. So in Jr. High and High School I always took typing class for the easy A. I averaged 85 words per minute with no errors.
Most businesses at the time required 45 words per minute to qualify for a job. But I never used it as a professional. I became a aircraft technician instead.
i would lose all my brain cells trying to learn this.
When she said zed
The world doesn’t consists of the USA only
So non-American won’t pronounce it as ‘zee’
I think that's how pretty much the entire world says it. Excluding the US of course.
@@johnluujl The anglophone world*
@@Salma.Salma.Salma. and people who've learned the language
There's a world outside the US
MY BRAIN CANT HANDLE THIS
Ok I remember reading how they can type 200 words a minute....and I just thought "Holy crap that is insanely fast!!!"
I never even considered they used a different keyboard....
That's just how modern enchantment table looks like
Never realized that TV captions are done the same way but it makes so much sense.
Imagine the stenographers before these and only use notebooks and pens...
They had a special handwriting method back then. It looked like a non-latin alphabet of sorts. Unintelligible to the uninitiated.
@@klugg3389 adding onto your comment: the type of writing they use most commonly was Gregg Shorthand which was actually a class in some American schools so that students could take notes faster
@@lululipes4382 Adding to your comment: i am such a nerd
They still manually write here in my country.
This helped alot
Really?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You ladies are too phenomenal ..I barely typed out this text to comment
N9beyz: me typen8ng wfast:
I'm selected to sit on 5 week trial as a juror, and I was just curious how they typed so fast... I had absolutely no idea that this is the machine they used!! I thought they were just really fast typists on a standard keyboard. this is insane! Much respect for them!
I didn't know how interested I was in court reporting until now
We don’t “type” on the machine. We “write” on it. 😉
I think after a period of time it becomes part of your muscle memory, what looking like a path through fire might become easy as sharpening a pencil
Its legit is faster than normal writing
They can type faster than most people speak
I myself is a court stenographer but i use gregg shorthand instead, it means that i use pen and paper. We only have to choose one technique because it is quite hard to even master one of these. The scariest thing is that when you hear something like a counsel is requesting you to read back something which was said long way back.
Somehow I....don't....believe you🤔
Buzzfeed, it’s called a machine, not a typewriter.
i remember when our first year in steno we used to read loudly as a group on what our teacher wrote on board,we sound like a first grader trying to learn how to read 🙉
It's like playing an instrument o.o
“these are vowels”
*shows 4 keys*
NANI??
half the alphabet missing but they got 2 letter S's😂
I'm preparing it for it rn 🇮🇳🙏 both my granddad and dad were stenographers. This amazing art must be kept alive.
I've been a certified court reporter for 53 years. I have never "typed" on my Stenograph machine. I have always written every word spoken; however, I do "type" on an IBM Selectric typewriter or even on my Lenovo laptop.