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- In this video I tell you guys everything about the Long Tube Headers that I got on my Dodge Challenger ScatPack. The Long Tube Headers made this Dodge Challenger ScatPack sound insane! Make sure to check out my Instagram account @kcars_ for pictures of cars and updates about my channel! Thanks for watching!
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finally their is a video for challenger scatpack headers in youtube
Mohammed Abdulla yep 👍
What this set up
I'm use to old school muscle cars so smelling exhaust and gas is part of the enjoyment you'll get use to it I'm sure
I could listen to this all day
Rick Bell me too!
Wow that was the comprehensive comparison of before and after I have ever seen, excellent job!!! Great info about the cat less mid pipes and the smell, that might make me choose to go with high flow cats instead, when and if I can afford to get long tubes. Good video sir.
BeepVlad K thank you!
One of the best sound comparisons I've seen. Very good job...subbed! 😄
Corey SRT thank you!
You didn't lose torque. You gained it all under the curve. You lost 6ft/lbs at peak but gained way more than 6 throughout the entire rpm range
Down South TV oh ok that makes sense. I wasn’t sure about that lol thanks for the info!
He lost HP and Tq down low to midrange. What graph are you looking at? The high Tq line at beginning of dyno run is stock headers and they drop off in the midrange where the Kooks start to perform. The top HP line at beginning is also the stock headers and the same thing happens with the Kooks picking up and peaking high. Weird how some people look at things
I say that as i went through it. That thing sounds awesome, i finally got my hands on a SRT Challenger in 2015 after loving the Challenger since my neighbor, a cop who didnt worry about speeding tickets back in 1970 took me for a ride in his new '70 Challenger T/A 340 with the 4 speed stick. After finally getting one in 2015, from the 2nd week of ownership it started failing in many areas, after motor break in it was running hot, not overheating but hot... 252 coolant temp, 275 oil temp. The dealership told me they cant find anything. On the 4th visit i gave them pictures I took of the guages and into the performance pages and still got the BS we can't duplicate the problem. 4 visits nothings wrong... They start it up to bring it back to me and the radiator blew up. 4 visits now they had no choice but to fix it. Bastards, coolant smell never really went away after that. Then it totally fell apart, sensors for adaptive cruise control were replaced evey month or 2, tranny issues for improper shifting, the rear was replaced TWICE!! Then the motor blew up, the #5 cylinder went and caused internal damage to the valves and cam and by this time, 2 YEARS i finally had enough and lemon lawed the car. 22 service calls in 24 months. I took back my deposit on the new HELLCAT Challenger as I saw that quality control hadn't improved for the '17 and '18 model years. I say this in the hope nobody out there is having any similar problems. I can't tell you how disappointed I was, my previous 3 cars were all MOPAR and hadn't had any problems. HEMI Charger R/T and R/T MAX and this Challenger was a total bummer. If they're dicking you around don't let them get away with blowing you off until the 3/36 runs out. Soon as that happened then I'm told it needs a computer , this that and the other thing, BEFORE the motor blew. The wanted $11k to fix the car they told me was fine or we can't find anything wrong while on the warrantee. Before I lemon lawed it couldnt get any dealer to even take it as a trade because of its history and that forced me to do the lemon law. After shoving it up Dodges ass I finally got out of it, if this is happening to you DON'T let them get away with screwing you over. It still pisses me off and why they wouldn't fix it, I dont know why to this day... Best of luck to all and drive safe.
Crushing it as per usual! Crazy how your channel has grown in the last few months (we were close in numbers in Jan.) .... Keep it up!
DSW Joyride Productions thank you man!
The tune is worth 25whp itself. The combination of the tune and headers you probably could have picked up the same amount with just catless mids but the headers sound and look good nice car
joe19812003 thanks!
KCars did that pcm void you’re warranty ?
This video is excellent! Discussed all aspects of price, showed the work underneath, talked pros and cons, had the dyno report and everything. This is more thorough than many professional videos are. Nice work!
Adam Kerrigan thanks for the support!
subbed, spot on. no filler, great content -16 scat...I dig how you hoon responsibly, no one around, empty industrial park, nicely done. Don't waste time on tires without upgrading the wheel to a 10.5 rear and 9.5 front (billet spacer required/still hub centric) then get some 305's in the front and 315's in the back....meat its what's fro dinner
Superrun357 thanks! Great info I’ll keep that in mind when searching for wheels and tires!
Great detail in your vids! Finally someone does it right
Joe Follest thank you!
Now time to roll race a stock scat to compare the gains from stock! Or one vs just a tuned scat
Brandon vidal I would if I knew somebody with one around here
KCars what does your butt dyno say about the kooks LTs and catless mids
Brandon vidal I can’t really feel a difference except when I floor it then it looses traction a lot easier
So I just raced my friend he has the same setup and..... he pulls on me everytime well there was 2 or 3 times I beat him but that’s because I got better traction then him
@@KCars I got a stock scat, I heard you mentioned Ft. Pitt Tunnels so def gotta be in Pittsburgh Lol. I have a 6 spd manual though
All these dudes hating but the car looks and sounds sick.... i wana do this to my 18 RT Hopefully it sounds similar to that.
Its total different engine dude. Gonna sound like a ram 1500
The car sounds amazing bro don’t let any one tell you otherwise also I am 💯 with you kooks are great only people that hate kooks are the one that can’t afford lol
V8_freak thanks a lot man!
Dude, I’ve seen lots of videos... this is gold. Thanks for the attention to many different views and angles.
rubio209 thanks!
Also has a tune.. so headers and mid pipes aren’t the sole culprits of the HP gains.
Fernando Quiroz ya I was just talking about the actual mods
Damn bro 🤤 that sounds AMAZING! Now I want headers for my car lol
Stephen Griffin it’s worth it lol
KCars what did they run you after install?
Yooo, that's insane brother!!! I'm loving it! Sound's twice as beastly. I'm under warranty till 2023 for my Scat Shaker but definately going this route as far as the header's go. Keep beastin bro
zo maq thanks man! You’re gonna love it!
Zo maq...
Those headers will be corroded and stuck on their by 2023. Best to swap exhaust components when brand new. And I do my exhaust mods at the first 1k mile oil change I do. So much easier to remove a nice shiny factory exhaust. All clean and corrosion free.
Exhaust will NOT void your warranty on a new car. There are laws protecting you from false dealer warranty claims like that. Moss-Magnuson
neverendingmods I get where you're coming from and in most case's you'd be right, but my Challenger isn't my daily driver. It's my summer time toy and I drive it on sunny day's only...car's never seen rain/snow/ice or salt. Because of this those exhaust part's won't see rust that'll lead to them getting stuck. I do an undercarriage wash once a year every year and the car is meticulously detailed and cared for. So I believe even by 2023 the OEM stock shorty header's and exhaust part's won't get stuck nor corroded. Appreciate the info though
neverendingmods You're right about that, but I'll just wait it out and avoid any hassle's
Looking into getting a scatpack. This video helped a lot in terms of what I should do to make it a beast!
Can’t go wrong with it, just make sure to upgrade tires
Thank you, you sold me on buying my scatpack headers🙏🏼finally a video I receive actual information
Glad I could help, thanks for watching!
3k for header install ouch!!! But i'm doing it lol
6.4L HemiPower the install itself was about $600
6.4L HemiPower same here 😎🙏🏼👌🏼
KCars thats actually a very good price.
Or ya know, you could jack the car up and pick up a wrench and do it yourself? Then go get it tuned for less money
Really a nice video. You put alot of work in this. I own a 2016 scat. Thanks!
Clint S thanks for watching!
Great comparison! I'd be interested in seeing what a scat with long tubes and flex fuel would make. I definitely subbed, I have a 2016 scat, your videos are a great help
Marc Flamer thanks for the support!
Nice!! This same setup is the one im thinking bout puttin on my 5.7L 😎
Bryan Mercado awesome! It’ll sound really good!
Nice bro👉🏼👈🏼 I’m having the same thing done to my Scat the end of the month with the addition of an AFE CAI, 87mm ported throttle body and ported intake manifold. Thanks for the vid, just subbed 👊🏼
BigDaddy392 that’s gonna be awesome! And thanks for the sub!
BigDaddy392 How much is this new stock mode
Informative videos that you have taken your time to share. You are right on about Kooks, they are meticulously built. Nice job young man, your mannerism and information should be helpful to all. Thank you, and again kudos man, Seth
Seth Hughes thanks!
Nice prospective and comparison shots on the video of the car. You got some skills. Keep it up.
Lawrence Barker Jr thanks!
Best sound comparison I’ve seen with a Challenger Scat Pack
Thanks!
Great video, you put a lot of work into that. Thank You!
No problem, thanks for watching!
Sounds bad ass man!👍
2016 R/T thanks!
Good vid bro. My kooks long tubes go on the scat this weekend !
Lance Harris awesome! You’ll love it!
A true review video on a before and after headers and mids ... great work bruh !!
Azwar Al Behani thanks!
Bruhhhhhh when you said the gas gives you a headache so calmly as if it were a side affect of a prescription medicine on one of those commercial 😂😂😂😂😂😂 love the video man and thanks for being humble and not being some “welcome to the channel” guy that throws a ton of commercials at you. Just got my 2020 widebody scat and love it .
😂😂😂thanks for watching! You’re definitely gonna love that thing, enjoy it!
Hell yeah sounds bad ass bro!!!! Love it 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Nicest sound i have heard yet!!! The headers definitely give u a whole different sound!! Love the way my 2door Ram sounds with em 🔥
Thanks!
One of the main reasons you had such a huge gain in HP is because you went catless. That alone can net some impressive gains.
Nick Thompson yep just have to worry about passing inspection now lol
Fantastic video, bud. Thank you. Im personally going with the kooks 2inch with catless mids
Sweet, thanks for watching!
Got a go with the Mickeys 305/45R20. Anything less just wont cut it. If you wanna try the 315’s, even better. I actually got 18” Bravado’s with the 305 Mickey’s. They work great, especially at the track. Nice pick up on HP and Torque. Pretty impressive. OST Dyno few on tuning!
Great review video. Got it from every perspective. Most people just do a few reva and that’s the end. Glad to hear it in lots of different aspects. Sounds good.
Thanks!
Thanks for info Bro!!!
Orlando Ares no problem man!
Damn they really know how to shaft you with the prices I'm glad I do it myself except the tune since I don't have a dyno but that is crazy expensive but can be a pain in the ass to install depending on what parts you get
Good set up
Rick Bell thanks man!
This really the best sound I have been hear
Thanks!
Great video
BADHEMI 300s thank you!
Finally , a good ass.video
Great comparisons and overall info. Car sounds beasty 💪🏽
Mr. 300 thanks!
Good job on your video bro
Marvin Veerapen thank you!
I’m 3 years late and about to get my 2021 Dodge Challenger 392 scat pack and im honestly going to do what you did to your car. Sounds amazing 💯
You will absolutely love it, no regrets!
@@KCars thanks man , by the way your car is fucking awesome 💯 ( sorry for the language im just like that when i see a badass car )
Thanks!
I love you videos
mr DDT ftw thanks I really appreciate it!
KCars you are welcome
Good vid. Thorough, and that’s good for those that are contemplating long tubes for a 392. And, sounds fantastic! Def would be proud to drive that piece of ‘Murica everywhere.
crodrc51able thanks!
Sounds real good music to my Ears
tony king thanks man I love it too!
Nice car man. Mines still stock but been pondering a few options.
Anyways thanks for the vid, it is appreciated and offers alot of insight that would be compketely unknown if it werent for people like you showing us the before and afters and giving your detailed thoughts.
Cheers bro
Thanks for watching man! Hope I gave you some good ideas lol
Sound vicious 😈
Bryan Clark thanks!
Great detailed video! Sounds awesome
Thanks!
Hey JGCSRT.... STEP OFF ...... Leave the kid alone dude, he is at least trying to provide decent content to TH-cam.
Relax or find a grown man to pick on.....
Catless keeps the bugs away!! Lol.
Run 100 octane unleaded, just a half tank. Put it in when near empty. The smell is fabulous and being catless you may get a few flame pops in deceleration.
neverendingmods I’ll have to try that out
@@KCars Used to run 110 octane in my 9 second N/A 69 goat. 540 under the hood was 13.5:1 compression. That's about the best smell in the world...except MAYBE for pussy.
goldenaxl 🤣🤣🤣👎 lame af
Thats a very detailed vídeo great job ! I got a stock scat and just starting to think about mods, what tuner did you get , did you have to get a new unlocked PCM for the tuner to work? Also I’m learning about shot and long headers is that just a preference or there are performance differences ? Thank you !!!
Thanks! I didn’t actually get a tuner but yes I did have to get an unlocked PCM in order to get a custom dyno tune. I’m not exactly sure on the exact differences between long and short headers but I think long tube headers build the most power in the mid to high rpms and shortys build power in the lower rpms I believe.
Beautiful sound wow 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Oh, sounds great man. Gonna check out your 2 step vid next.
Be careful in the rain and cold bro. Sticky summer tires suck in rain and turn to bowling balls in the temps below 50 degrees out.
Be safe and have lots of fun.👍
neverendingmods thanks!
sounds pretty good on the inside.
Really good video. I enjoyed it
Thanks!
Nice car man. I have a Go Mango Scat Pack too. That tunnel looked familiar. I just drove from Indiana to NC on vacation. We drive thru a couple tunnels in West Virginia.
CamOnlyJabroni nice man! And that tunnel was in Pittsburgh
technically i dont think its the headers and exhaust alone that has produced that HP. I think your Intake (correct me if im wrong) is a CAI which in combination with the headers and exhaust is creating the total improvement.
eTemplarHunter ya it’s a cold air intake, and I think the tune really helped out with everything
eTemplarHunter A cai on the 6.4L cars literally gain nothing. From legmaker, AFE, K&N to the hellcat airbox/headlight tube.
I own a 16 scat pack and had a 300srt8 and just sold a heads cam c6 vette. This is the first car I’ve owned that doesn’t respond to a CAI, like at all.
The gains would be attributable to the headers/cat delete and the tune. A good tune can be good for 10-20 rwhp by itself. It’s quite a big gain for headers/catless mids and tune, he should be ecstatic with the end result.
i gotta figure that because so much more goes into one of these than most the other challengers that it already has the equivalent or better than any off the shelf intake on the market.
Nah most of the gain came from the longtubes and tune. CAI barely makes a difference on most of the HEMI's. When i got a CAI on my 5.7 hemi, it didnt do much, same with my friend with a 6.1 hemi and my 6.4 (392) hemi. With a tune and longtubes though, we experienced a great deal of hp gain on the 6.1
eTemplarHunter Well yeah more air flow and less restriction
The car sounds great
Auto Vlog thanks!
Bigger tires the better. Growls Garage has Demon rims that look sweet! You car sounds like a beast!
Rusty Zipper I know I really need to get bigger tires. I’d also need shortened sway bar end links to do that, looking at getting Mickey Thompson 305 drag radials
Had kooks LTs on my 01 mustang, nice headers top quality
Very well put together video
TuckDawg8 thanks!
love the sound of it bro
Thanks!
Great video! You'll need rims before tires. 305s wont work with stock rims. I just changed mine to 9.5 and 11s in rear. Went with Continental Extreme contact. 275 40 20...305 35 20. Completely changes the driving experience. Tons of grip, and much smoother ride
Thanks! I actually ended up going with 275s all around on the stock wheels, huge difference in traction
That's a lot of HP gained, but you lost 6 ft/lb in torque. Sounds beautiful though.
Destroyer Gray P-38 thanks man! And ya I’m not sure what exactly happened with the torque loss
KCars could be the loss of back pressure with the long tubes versus shorties that keep some back pressure but get way less HP gains.
Back pressure isn't what gives torque, its scavenging. Long tubes, especially the equal length ones like he has really help with scavenging. I couldn't really tell looking at the chart ( kind of blury on my screen) he should have gained a decent bit on the low end, which is where it really matters to get that whale of a car moving. But yea do some reading on exhaust scavenging, it will be worth it.
Heavy Hemi ya I’m pretty sure it gained torque in the lower RPM’s just not the peak RPM’s, thanks for the info!
Heavy Hemi that's what I was staring, that he lost torque as most applications in my experience on dynos that go with shorties gain HP and torque, just not as much.
Awesome sound! I have 2016 Charger Scatpack. Im going to be going with Stainless Works Longtubes with high flow cats with a Hemifever tune. I love the tunnel videos. 👍
Thanks! That will sound great
Subscribed, great review
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Great video man
jason guzman thanks!
Subbed nice work brotha keep it up
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Sounds insane
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Lol I like this sound!! Awesome👍
Khan park thanks!
Sounds mean as fuck. The only thing is I don't like that loud for me because I'd rather not be noticed on that level lol. I am more fly under the radar lol but still with a good sound.
Jay P ya I like it loud lol it sounds so aggressive
Think i might have to do long tube headers on my scat pack now that sounds amazing
LIFE WITH TRAVIS it’s definitely worth it!
Great Job! Very informative...My Husband says eat a pepperoni roll for him😹
Thank you! I will definitely do that😂
Sounds super nice,
Thanks!
Hey Kcars : I've heard nothing but good things about Kooks. I believe that the majority of Your HP gain is probably due to the unlocked pcm tuning. The long Tubes will help if You Mod the engine internally or go Supercharged. Factory Hemi manifolds flow really well to begin with but the Cats are the major restriction & even those won't matter much below 650 HP. She sounds really good & seems to want some Fatter tires.:)
BDOG JR lol thanks man and fatter tires are definitely something on my list!
Great video!
Thanks!
NICE!
Fischize thanks!
Great vid Bro👍
Mr Swift Randall thanks!
Great job bro👍👍
Jose Aguirre thanks!
Great review. Subbed.
HEMIHEAD R/T thanks!
Bro thanks this sounds wonderful I got a Srt8 that’s mean also with shorties no cats or muffler’s
Thanks!
Im about to buy a 392 i have to go used cause im buying cash. What mileage would you say is high? since these cars probably get hit on pretty hard.i found a 2015 for 25k but 101k miles.and what should i look out for in the car.like how you took the time in your video!
cool video. thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Fairly new subscriber to your channel.... your challenger is looking great and sounding amazing. Just want to let you know that being a challenger owner myself if you go with a 315 in the back and 275 in front...not only do you get a good stance but your traction is improved a lot. I also like your jeep you have in the garage. LOL that’s the combination that I have challenger/jeep.👍🏽
riveras_jeeps_n_cars thanks for subscribing! And I’ve been thinking about getting that tire setup but I’ve heard that you would need to get spacers to run 315’s, do you know if this is true?
KCars I have those on my car with a 9 1/2 in the front 10 1/2 inch in the back with no spacers.
I’m running the demon replica rims.
Nice ride and Thank you for all the good info. I'm running 305 nitto drag radials and they last longer then mickey's. ( in street racing )
sted fast thanks!
Watched this again. Love it. How did you solve the check engine light problem?
Custom dyno tune. The tuner can get rid of the light
@@KCars definitely did that but they’re strict about emission codes so they can’t delete it. Tried some O2 sensor spacers. I’m on my second set. Hopefully they’ll regulate the air flow.
@@deepblue2968 hmmm ya idk if any other way other than with the tune
Thats how a muscle car should sound, damn thats lovely
the greatest I agree! Thanks for watching!
Can you make a vid on how much you pay a month for this car and things like that. I just turned 20 and im just trying to figure out what i maybe looking at a month if you dont mind
One of the best videos I've seen great explaining appreciate it! Car sounds awesome! That's what I'm looking to get for my challenger srt! You helped me a lot thanks!👍
markchimmy thanks for watching!
Like many of the comments , finally a great comparison on long tube headers for a scat pack shaker . Will you be using the stock rims when you purchase your tires ? . After watching this video I must say , I will be getting the tires first then the headers followed up with a catch can . Thanks for sharing this with us and keep up the great work . Cheers
Thanks! I thought about getting Ferrara FR4’s when I get the new tires but I’m not sure that will happen anymore. Saving up for something else right now
It would be nice if that would be a valve exhaust with these two beautiful sounds, enjoy your car man! Many Greetings from good old Germany!
Ya that would be pretty cool! And thanks!
I have subtitles on, it says music when he revs it😂 literally music to my ears
Love how it sounds I think I’m doing this set up but with a cam
Lol that’s funny. That will be ear piercing with a cam and this setup. I’ve been wanting to do that too
I have a 2020 Challenger SRT that came with the Pirelli P zero 265/R20.
I upgraded to a set of Mickey Thompson Street radios that were just a little bit more but not much and they're a softer tire and I'll tell you what I have a hard time breaking those things loose they really want to stick and go good choice.
Good to hear! I ended up getting Michelin pilot sport AS3 275’s and they made a huge difference for me
The car sounds great. Thanks for the jeep xj command Trac vs select trac
Thanks for watching!
That crazy for header install and it dose not take three hours to remove the exhaust and headers lol nice car and im actually in process doing s cam tune and long tube on my charger
Gabriel Mendez thanks! That’ll sound awesome!