How hard is it to run games at ultrawide resolutions?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- How hard is it to run games at 21:9 ultrawide resolutions like 3440x1440 or 2560x1080? How does performance compare with standard resolutions like 1080p, 1440p, and 4K? This video should be helpful to anyone who has an ultrawide monitor and is trying to decide which GPU to buy for ultrawide gaming since most GPU reviews don't cover ultrawide performance. This could also help people considering buying an ultrawide monitor to decide whether their GPU is up for the job. In this video I explain the number of pixels involved at each resolution to show how to predict gaming performance when reviews only tell you standard resolutions. I also compare these predicted results with actual Ultrawide gaming benchmarks on my RTX 2070 in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, so we can see if they line up.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:25 How many pixels?
2:26 What does the number of pixels tell us? (graph)
3:22 Actual game benchmarks
4:47 Summary of benchmark results
6:40 Other thoughts on using review benchmarks
7:02 Is upgrading to ultrawide worth it?
7:29 Thanks!
7:47 BUT AT WHAT COST?!?!?! - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I absolutely love my 1440 ultra wide monitor. I’m using an MSI 100 Hz panel, myself, and my 6800 XT performs amazing on it. I don’t think I can go back to 16 x 9 gaming. Thanks for all the great content, congratulations for the channel growth, and I look forward to all of your Contin.
Got the ultrawide 1440p and never go back to 16:9. Best decision ever.
Meh
I have an ultrawide 2560-1080 and I really like it when I watch movies . Just make sure you had a great extension for videos . I also saw a 38 inch 3840-1600 at mico center and it looked really good . And Alienware QD OLED is like looking at god
I got an Acer predator x34 when it released and now I'm looking at a 32:9 monitor 😂
I couldn't go back to a 16:9 either.
@@hannahalexy maybe get the Odyssey 55 inch it's even Comes with smart TV remote
@@hannahalexy Yes, 32:9 is even better than 21:9. Considerably, almost like 16:9 vs 21:9.
You really make some good content, I tried searching more about ultra wides and there is not enough info on videos or even web pages, besides the obvious points its Nice to see an actual real person make a review sin the tech experts well they can change the set up evert 6months while I build a computer for years. Keep the good work! Cheers
Thanks!
@@michaelhawkins7389can you share your experience with us? Thanks!
@@michaelhawkins7389 How is your experience so far with the 3440x1440 res in games? What GPU are you running? Thinking of getting an ultrawide as I like the aspect ratio with driving games like assetto corsa, and will help me with my work of reports, excel spreadsheets and coding, just wanna have more stuff on my screen. Found a good one for like £250 from LG so considering it.
Just the information I'm looking for. Bravo!
Thank you for the approach man, nice logic and data to back it up, I will keep using this moving forward
This was the video i was looking for since im looking at 1440p ultrawide montors atm.
This sort of content is so good. Your content is so practical and insightful.
🙏🙏
Thats really nice video and good explanation! Keep it up man!
everything i think about making a differance youve already made a video about. awesome :D
Best ultrawide GPU review. Just what I needed. Great job!
After having ultrawide for just over a year now, at first it was neat, some games it made a big difference, but what it did do however was make everything 16:9 look bad.
A while ago bought an ultrawide monitor 1440p and I knew already it will cost some more GPU power, but how much. It seems different from game to game. Sometimes I use ultrawide 1080p with FSR and that works very good so far. But watching benchmarks from games does not give me that info I want. I also calculated the difference in % and used that on benchmark results to give me some hint about where I can land in fps for those games tested. Btw, very good video and good explanation around these resolutions compared.
Thanks for the Clear and concise way to look at things.
I was overthinking (to be honest) before pulling the trigger on an ultrawide
Advtange to dragging feet (didn;t really give into FOMO) is that the prices have dropped nicely on the monitors, and there are more powerful (though still not super cheap) GPU upgrade options.
I do think ultrawide has an element of being harder on the cpu just because it's handling more physics and objects on screen at once than 16:9 typically does. I usually always go by your suggestions though for sure when I'm looking at benchmarks for new games. Edit: I'd be interested in seeing a video with a custom resolution set that matches the same pixel count as 1080p but at an aspect ratio of 21:9 and see what the differences are if that's even possible
Yeah, but in most AAA games at high graphics settings and resolutions, I think people are usually going to be bound by their GPU. I'm almost never CPU bottlenecked unless I'm playing an esports title where I'm turning down settings to try to max framerate. Granted, it depends on your CPU and GPU combo. People sticking a 3080 on an i5 from 8 years ago will certainly need to be a bit more worried about their CPU being the limiting factor.
I‘m 99% sure physics aren‘t handled only on screen. If there is a performance difference, it‘s minimal and negligible
Depending on game and it's optimizations, physics are handled off screen as well. Like if you throw a grenade then turn 180, the grenade will do its thing, if physics wouldn't be handled off screen, the grenade would freeze and be stuck in air, not a good thing.
Super helpful video! I kinda suspected as much. I had the Rx 6700 XT (built for 1440p), but some games would stutter a bit and have dips in FPS. Im seeing now that it would be best to go for Rx 6800 XT for 4k to have a nice buffer as games get more intensive. Thanks again!
1080p
@@malikgod6700 XT for 1080p
6800 XT for 1440p
@@pluschy7886 sounds about right
I would never, never! go back to a 16:9 aspect ratio. Every time I watch at a 'normal' monitor it just feels tiny. I have even bougnt my own ultrawide monitor for my desktop pc at work. And i would ove to try one of these super ultrawide monitors.
My only complaints with ultrawide are just related to the support in games. Overall I'm quite happy with it. I hope it catches on so it will gain more support.
@@danielowentech Yep, many devs just don't care about us, there are dozens of us but it's still just tiny %.
Funny, I have a couple of 1920x1200 because the extra page length helps work (I used to use 1600x1200 res)
The UWHD isn't something I have tried, but with my largest monitor close it pushes the angular limit, so larger would be further back. Without young eyes anymore, I am a bit sceptical of higher resolution, it just means zooming in on documents.
@@danielowentech well, ever since I bought my Predator X35P I haven't had any issues with the games I played, that includes Battelfield 3, 4, 1, and 5, Doom Ethernal, Red Death Redemption 2, Horizon Zero Dawn2 , Tomb Rider: Raise of the Tomb Raider & Shadow of the tomb Raider , Cyberpunk 2077, Mass Effect Andromeda, Dragon Age Inquisition, Arma 3. Maybe just in one or two games, when you are in the menu of the game it goes back to 16:9, but no issues at all when playing... I have no idea what's like when playing some main stream titles like Fortnite, Call of Dutty warzone or Counter Strike, etc... but I personally think that UW monitor owners usually go for a more High-end(-ish) hardware and triple-A games, wich are usually far more well finished.
@@RobBCactive yeah, thats something to consider for sure, but monitor industry it's moving towards more pixel density in all areas (personal desktops and workstations), altough I think it will be a long time untill we see OEMs selling 4k displays to companys as deafult hardware. You can also change the the "scale and distribution" within windows screen configuration, so you get bigger icons and texts, or you can use Ctrl + mouse wheel anytime you need for a punctual zoom in/out.
I feel like I ended up with the best of both worlds (for me). 1440p 16:9 32" -- same pixel density as a 1080p 24" but a lot more screen real estate. When I game I typically run 2560x1080 custom resolution. This gets me the same image height as my old 24" 1080p gaming monitor but more peripheral vision and easier to drive. Basically it's now a 29" 1080p ultrawide but my 32" monitor has much better motion handling and refresh rate and is actually *cheaper* than the majority of small ultrawides which are generally pretty crap va panels (Gigabyte M32Q 165Hz fast ips-- fantastic monitor). I really like a BIG screen for general computing and work but find 32" too big for games.
Hi I'm using an MSI 30 inch 2560 X 1080 ultrawide with a 200hz refresh rate and I must say I think the picture quality is excellent. It has around 92ppi about the same as a 24 inch 1080 monitor but with added real estate. A 34 inch 1440 would be to big for my desk and my NVIDIA 3060 ti handles it pretty well. My Hitman game averages 125 fps and I love the added length for making videos in my editor.
did you use different size monitor for every res, or did you just scale the same monitor to the desired resolution?
super helpful thank you very much
Yea math wise I'd like an ultrawide 2k it seems the best price to performance ratio using a Turing card. Well documented stats bar graphs BTW. Makes for easy comparison. Oh and cool haircut Dan!
Thanks!
@@danielowentech easy way I find using the bar graph
4.5 x 4.5 = 1080p
5 x 5 = Ultrawide 1080p
6 x 6 = 1440p
7 x 7 = Ultrawide 1440p
9 x 9 = 4k
Hoping prices drop and devs support more games going forward like it happened back when 4:3 ratio became 16:9
3080 paired with an ultrawide 1440p monitor = endgame setup
Yeah, 3080 is exactly the performance I want for my ultrawide. I'm just not willing to pay scalper prices.
Literally what I've been waiting for. wanted a 3070 ti but for a little more i can just end all my doubts and be set for the life of the equipment
@@danielowentech Oh yes. Availability, Scalper and now NVIDIA price scam is the reason I still run my 1070...
I want to upgrade, but I am not willing to sell my soul. xD
@@rileycrain5784 I would only recommend cards with 10gb of vram or more. games that you plan on running ultra settings your game will get really bad frame dips I have 2 pcs one with a 3070ti and the other is a 3080 it is a huge difference in some games
@@noxify5873 I actually pulled the trigger on a 3080 not to long after the post. Life has been great!!!
I only subbed cos you are clearly a wizard and i'm not gonna be on the wrong side of Magic... You see that calculator appear outta no where ?
I want an ultrawide monitor for work because I don't want to use 2 displays as an external monitor but can RTX 3060 laptop handle 1080p gaming on that (i play apex legends)?
oh since you own an ultra-wide, i was wondering if you know if this is possible: i know i can glue together separate monitors to make the OS think i have a bigger monitor, but can the reverse be done? could i take an ultrawide and trick the OS into thinking i have a normal center monitor and maybe two smallish side monitors so i could "full screen" a game in the center and keep maybe a browser/email/weather open on the side? i guess i could try a "windowed" mode, but then my mouse might fly out of bounds easily? currently i have multiple monitors so i can full screen while seeing what's going on with other things and if i need to use my mouse on the side, i can alt-tab the game into the background and move my mouse across all screens. (i used to have three but the left one has gotten ill).
I think I get what you are saying I don't think normal monitor settings can do that, but I think ive heard of programs designed to do it, though I've never tried them myself.
@@danielowentech i guess it's because i play slower paced games so i don't have to keep my eyes glued within the game and like to be able to instantly look off to the side and check on the real world. or..i've even sometimes put up text file notes/maps/screen clips on the other screen for particular events/tasks within an mmo :-D
3440x1440/144hz my Vega 64 barely cut it. 7900 XT has zero issues maxed out. I've been using UW for the past 6 years at least. Started at 2560x1080 and now my current display is 1440w.
my wife got to bring home dell 60hz ultrawide from her work and I began my gaming on that, and it set the precedent. I passed on PS5 for the sole reason that it doesn't support 21/9.. i went for a prebuilt with rtx 2060 and 10700f, I have to play 1080p at low settings to dream of 100fps, even with dlss on performance I get 80-90 fps at 1440p. So im stuck on balanced dlss and living with 65-78fps... last year I set aside a 1000$ and said this is for a 3070 and as soon as it falls to 1000$ I'm getting it. Im happy to say that i was a little patient and I can finally get a 3070, but now im thinking of getting a 3080 and never looking back. No matter what next gen has to offer I feel I am finally gonna maximize my system for years to come. I am pretty happy man
Bros wasting gpu power and playing on low, just to get 80-90fps on a monitor that can only refresh at a rate of 60hz. dumb move
@@HeathBlythe sup baby. Yeah I guess I forgot to mention that I don’t have the dell anymore, it just set the standard as far as ultrawide. I’m rocking the Samsung ultrawide at 165hz
Looks like the difference with 2560:1440 and 3440:1440 is roughly 20%. Am i correct? Im dubbing between a 4070 ti and a 4080. Playing on a 3440:1440 screen with 144hz. I have a 5800x3d and play games like fortnite and Diablo 4 so the 4070 ti should be good enough. Maybe the 4070 with dlss is also good, but I also play Hunt Showdown that doesnt have dlss. Would the 4080 be just the save bet? Its 200 a 300 euro’s more expensive then the 4070 ti.
Is my I5 11400F with RTX 3060 good for 1080p ultrawide max settings on AAA?
When I got my first ultrawide (2560 x 1080) a while ago I HAD to upgrade my GPU then after I change again my monitor to an 3440 x 1440 I had to do the same thing once more :(
Literally been browsing videos like this and trying to decide should I go with ultrawide or 16:9 at 1440p with 6750xt. It seems to handle literally all games at ultra at 60+ fps on 1440p.
I just got a 165hz 1440p ultrawide and use a 6750xt with a ryzen 7 5700x. I have only played two demanding games so far resident evil two and forza horizon 5. Resident evil held 120 fps at native res no ray trace ultra. And forza is 111ish fps on high at 1440p.
I have rtx3070ti+11th gen i7, what monitor can handle my pc,?? 4k or wide monitor?
Very Useful knowlege . 3q !
Could I run the odyssey g9 with a 3060ti??
Went ultrawide about 5 years ago maby 6 and im never going back. Im looking at the samsung G9 but it's still a bit too expensive and im hoping that there will be some ultrawide Oleds in the future.
I got the G5 165hz ultrawide, unfortunately i had to return it because after a week the ghosting was to bad. I have an AOC now and although the blacks aren't as pure i haven't had a single issue
@@rileycrain5784 nice, I also got a c1 oled now for my coach gaming. Pretty nice I must say, still good with the ultrawide for everything that needs mouse and keyboard.
@@rileycrain5784Is that the aoc 34" 144hz VA one?
This man is doing God's work
What gpu should be best for untrawide 1080p 75hz?
*It's a good thing you can find 21:9 benchmarks for FHD and QHD on every modern GPU on YT.*
So I just bought an ultrawide monitor off amazon to try it out just at 1080p and I have a very entry level pc running a rx 470 with 4gb of ram do you think I can run games at the ultrawide resolution? Thank you!
I was able to play 3440x1440 on my RX470 4gb but upgraded to RX6600 and it's much better
Just started trying games on my Acer nitro 5 laptop using a new Lenovo 29 UW and the performance is so laggy and terrible I'm kinda surprised, I had better performance when I ran 32 inch 2k monitor on it so I don't understand why the performance is so bad on the new UW????
I really regret getting my ultrawide. sure it's bigger but now i'm so used to it that it doesn't feel any different from what my standard widescreen used to feel like. and some games became unplayable bacause of the terrible framerate.
Why regret just save up to get a better rig now
I have a i7 9700k with a 3070gaming x trip on 2560x1080 just installed it i hope its gone give me some good gameplay!
When using such monitors, could you split the screen with MS toys? but leave the side blank to lower the overhead to the gpu?
Picture in picture setup could help but it could also throw off the resolution and processes. I know with diablo 3 I had my chat up and it helped with fps and cpu drain on the resolution with my alienware ultrawide. I run the 6700xt and amd 5600 with corsair 2x8gb 6k ram on my asus prime b550-plus mobo.
I just upgraded to am5 with asus x670e-i mobile, corsair dominator titanium 2x16gb 6k ram with 7800x3d and the 6700xt but am currently programming and downloading stuff right now. And I bought the new alienware qd uw monitor. I played my old setup on it just fine around 90 fps average with fortnite/apex/cod/diablo 3&4 on default settings. Can't wait to see the new setup and when my new yeston 7900xtx comes in from new egg. Gonna be glorious haha. But gonna move the 6700xt back to the other pc and then I'm gonna either sell it or give to my nephew lol
so why is it then that I get less frames on my ultra wide monitor than with the same settings on a 4k display? there is a difference of 3 million pixels and it's still more demanding?
something is wrong with your rdr2 test ... ultra wiede 1440p is more demanding than 4k ... look up some other tests with the RTX4090 and you will see that 4k has in general more fps than 3440X1440.
Im happy but also not with my ultra wide monitor. My gtx 1660ti ran games so well on my 1080p monitor but on my 3440x1440 ultrawide I can't drop the resolution without it looking horrible.
how to make more use of the cpu in game than the gpu
Is that Gibson LPJ?
most games have widescreen fixes and even if not, you can edit the hex values yourself so if you mess with it it is not hard... most people just don't understand tech well... You can run Manhunt 1 with all the HUD etc correct with thirteenag fix in 5 minutes, and that is a game from 2003.
I have no monitors at all now, I sold out😢 however I have the RX 6600 in this machine, do I get a $450 34 inch 1440p IPS display or the Mammoth 43.8 inch 3440 x 1080p IPS monitor for $479 ? I'm thinking the 1080 on this card. I'm getting rid of 5760 x 1080
The RX6600 does 3440x1440 very well that's what I have
@@itzamedave6242 That's real good to know
I am running ultrawide 1440p on a 1070 and I am pretty sure its suffocating and I can't help it with a new GPU
Perhaps AMD FSR will solve the issue
I had also a 1070 back then when o got my UW monitor and it was strugling so hard keeping up with Battleflied V at max settings... my solution was getting a 1080Ti on second hand market a few months after, and it has being rocking since then, now this little beast is strugling again, but as you might think I can't give it its well-deserved retirement yet.
Im at 2k ultrawide and i want to uograde to 32:9 2k, 49 inch samsung oddyse g9 neo
i recently picked up a msi 1080 ti super clocked with 11 gigs of v ram ,,,,with a i-5 6400 cpu ,,,,,i decided to buy a 34 inch samsung ultra wide ,,,,,,playing the last 4 call of duty games playing at 3440 by 1440 and getting 75 fps with medium to low settings ,,,,,,love it and would never go back to a standard 1080 p monitor
Waiting for the 240 Hz oleds later this year… Let’s go
it's a cool video but please make a video on how you can buy a graphics card.
That's easy. Sell your kidney, and then buy any GPU you want on eBay for 3x MSRP. Seriously though, I don't have any magic process. If I research the topic and find anything useful I could do a future video though.
@@danielowentech 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Had an ultrawide since 2020 and came from a 27" 1440p monitor honestly there wasnt much of a big jump in resolution, I feel as if the DPI is the exact same and i didnt gain that much screen real estate. And even in 2023 there are still recently released games that do not support ultrawide Elden Ring for example. Looking at a 4K 32" for my next monitor.
I have a 34inch ultrawide with 1080p resolution, and I'm happy
Can you make an ultrawide build
I'm feeling myself while watching this, is that normal?
someone help please.
im running cyberpunk at 5120 x 1440 on a 49 inch monitor and it is soooo laggy.
i dont know why my desktop is really good. here are the specs
* Processor: 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900F 2.00 GHz
* Ram: 32gb
*NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
can someone tell me why its lagging??
The 4070 is too weak for 32:9 1440p
Going from 4k to 3440x1440 I found my i9 9900K bottlenecking my 3090 in most games, gonna upgrade to a i9 12900k
ive been running a 32:9 super ultrawide monitor and its 5120x1440 res :D on 3070 ti laptop. ya im still waiting on parts to build my new desktop. but most games except the newest of the new i start to run out of vram.
What does Fortnite low settings run at plz 🙏
man I am so torn right now. about to build a new PC with a 6700 XT but I can't decide between an ultrawide or the Odyssey G7. As you know, the support in games for ultrawide is very little. I mean sure, for the AAA games the support is there but a lot of the games I like to follow probably won't support such resolutions since their budget is more defined. Indie games and such. I really don't want to look at black bars on the sides or have the picture stretched out.
sorry to be bearer of bad news theres no point buying a 4k monitor for a 6700xt. you arent getting playable frames
Don't get discouraged its worth it. and there are fixes online and softwares that fix too
Nice Video
Thanks!
gr8 vid
I'm aboutnt order the Koorui 27 in VA panel 144hz uktrawide 1440p. Anyone familiar with this monitor????
I would stay away from VA.
this video is a Savior !
I got a ultra wide 1440p monitor and I have a 3080ti gpu and it runs so good
so on average you loose 18.49% performance but gain 34.38% more resolution, seems like it's worth it
It everything depends on cpu/gpu. I am using a rtx3080 with i7 9770 on 3440p screen so my system is 17.7% bottleneck. I should jump to 4K (only 1.2% bottleneck) I love ultrawide screen resolution but I don't feel like updating cpu/motherboard (more expensive than buying a 4K monitor). Use pc builds calculator.
DONT use bottleneck calculators, they are bullshit. You dont have any bottleneck
i know damn well some games wont run the best at 3440x1440 with my 5600x and 6750xt but fuck it, its too late. think ill have to upgrade my cpu soon anyways.
lol ... 49 zoll ... 5120x1440 background 🤫 ( odysee g9 ) ?? or 5120 x 1080 ?
I have rtx 4070ti so may pc can run 2k ultra wide gaming.
I only lose 10-15 fps going from 1440p to 1440p ultrawide. It's much easier to run than 4k, and with DLSS/ FSR, you can get even more frames to make up those lost 10-15 fps. 3440x1440 is the sweet spot for PC gaming and gives the best performance per $ compared to 4k. I'm confused as to why more PC gamers have not adopted 3440x1440 yet and instead opt for 4k with less pictur on the screen for almost double the cost. 🤷🏻♂️
I thought about getting an ultra wide a little while back and it just didn't really appeal to me. I've been gaming on a 32" 2560 x 1440p 165hz display on a Ryzen 9 5900X/RX 6800XT/ 32 GB 3600mhz CL16 system and I find it to be just perfect for my tastes. Of course a bigger monitor at 4K would look nicer but it'll require more powerful hardware to run games at high fps. 1440P is the perfect medium imo. The G spot!
Yeah, I think 4K is still just too demanding. Even cards like a 3080/3090 can struggle a bit with maxed out 4K. My 2070 doesn't have a chance (as evidenced in the benchmarks in this video lol). Ultrawide can be amazing when games support it (and if your GPU can hand it), but there are many games that have limited or no support, so it certainly isn't a worry free "upgrade". It is a mixed bad. I like mine, but it can be annoying at times as well.
@@danielowentech I’ve just bought a 4K 144hz 27” monitor and it works perfectly with my 3080. I can get 60-100fps in pretty much every game
@@danielowentech Luckily there are ultrawide fixes on the internet. its may be not the best solution but its something at least
Eventually DLSS and FSR is gonna get so good and widely spread that 8K ultra-wide might become a standard on monitors and to be honest you don't lose anything when 21:9 can still run 16:9 using black bars. Or maybe just cheap VR glasses could replace monitors as they are cheaper to build and would offer better entry level prices with the extra of having 3D capability as optional.
i use a 1660 ti and i would still recommend ultra wide gaming
There’s some fair prices now for certain ultra wide monitors.
Yeah, its a lot better now than when I bought mine. I'm hoping as prices improve adoption rate goes up and game support gets better.
yeah, thats totally true, almost half of the price for the same specs. Back then when i got my Predator X35P it was 1100€, now my brother is about to get a ASUS Tuf VG34VQL1B wich has some extra features like HDR 550nits, 1ms, 4000:1 contrast ratio and 165Hz... slightly better for just 600€, almost half price in 3 years! Can't wait to see the Predator X38p dropping in price and get my hands on it
I bought an LG ultrawide last year and I have no regrets. 21:9 3440x1440. It can boost up to 180Hz but I keep it at 144Hz with G-Sync enabled. I bought a 4090 to get the most from it so I can keep my frames as close to 144Hz as possible.
I watch this video with an 4090 and a ryzen 9 7950x3d.
Im a bit insecure 😅
Are you Tekking101’s dad?
I wanna play 3840 x 1600 ultrawide on my 4K TV!
5120x2160, 8gb vram.... i made bad choices.
I can't find a video on 5120x1440. Lol
my gpu can handle 1920*823 ultrawide lol ((1920 /21) *9 )
lol testing ultrawide res with bad gpu ... nice job !!! lol
My RX 6800xt can. Sometimes on ultra. But for 144hz 3440x1440 just set it on high.