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- Politicians are trolling the media to advance their own agendas.
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Between Rep. Devin Nunes’ (R-CA) secret memo, allegations of missing text messages, and the panic over a so-called “secret society” in the FBI, the past few weeks of political news coverage have been dominated by Republican pseudoscandals. And while each of these alleged “bombshells” has turned out to be a dud, these stories raise questions about whether GOP politicians are intentionally baiting journalists -- trolling them into covering conspiracy theories in order to raise doubts about the FBI and the ongoing Mueller investigation.
Read why the Nunes memo was a dud on vox.com: bit.ly/2D0tu8t
And how the media fell for it anyway: bit.ly/2CZMaoQ
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"What comes to mind when you hear the word 'troll?'"
An unsightly creature of legend living under a bridge in the countryside. Naturally.
When I hear 'troll', I think of 'trolling', ie cruising around dragging bait, to see what bites.
@Klaus Barbie
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Troll = Trump
Trolls, that one movie
@@thatbeefman8042 trolls 2, that other movie
So it sounds like the fix to this would be to have a news cycle that focuses on actual stories instead of huddling around drama like a bunch of highschoolers.
Exactly!
Media should preface EVERY story about an upcoming “bombshell” by a standard disclaimer: “X announced today that a story about Y is to be released; it’s possible that the story is just bait to get us to speculate, but until this is actually released, we will give no further details.”
Then NO FOLLOW UP REPORTS unless the release is overdue; and then report ONLY that it’s overdue.
But then you can't sell ads as easily! Their business is advertising and getting people to watch so they can sell those ads. Not to actually report news.
It would only be watched by people who can't be fooled in the first place. So you obtain nothing
Allan Richardson But that would make too much sense 😒
This is also called "argument inoculation" in social psychology. You introduce an idea to a group, you give them a simple defense of the idea and then they are more resistant to new/conflicting information about the idea even if the idea is clearly false.
Felix B no, I trying to give another reason as to why individuals who believe wrong information persist in that belief.
"argument inoculation" can also be used to prevent people from believing fake news; 1st) you introduce a fake news to a group, then 2nd) you reveal it is actually fake/a sham. The people who have been "inoculated" are able to resist real fake news later.
xponen wow you really didn't get it did you
@Kang Jin, no I get it, what @Grimm GooseGirl is saying is that basically the first thing you saw is what you believe the most. This is an interesting quirk of human mind, you could use it to both help protect people from fake news or to instead manipulate people to believe fake news depending on your goal... after you 'inoculate' a person with your "facts" then this person will respond differently to a similar fact in the future... this mechanism work just like a Vaccine; you have to 'inoculate' a person when he's young or as early as possible.
xponen Media education is desperately needed in our modern age of information overload. Thank for inoculation info
There is this saying where I live:「人不要臉，天下無敵。」, translated to English is roughly: "A shameless man in invincible".
Yeah, I felt those vibes in this vid.
Wow, I love that saying. So true.
The troll is shameless, since he is least bothered about the consequences of his lie being caught.
In the context of this video, its the politicians who unabashedly keep on trolling even after their falsehoods being called out.
Tony- Atkinson My mind just went to this saying for some reason. I guess it’s because a lot of politicians don’t have any shame in messing up the world for their own sake.
Oh hi fellow chinese. I'm chinese as well.
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The inclusion of Charlie Brown in this video made it 100 times better, loved it! 😊💛
Also, totally agree - resisting the bait that trolls give out is the only way to beat them.
Very apt.. seeing as I find myself screaming 'AAUGH!' ever time they pop up with a new 'conspiracy' on FOX.
I love how well it highlights the need for subsequent skepticism.
Part of the problem is how much news organisations wind up buying into the bait because they need something to sell, and a potential bombshell chyron gets more attention and keeps more viewers than a potential bait one. An incentive to tell us the truth instead of selling more ads or subscriptions would be amazing.
This a 1000x!!
"God I hope this makes even a tiny bit of sense." - me, writing the Charlie Brown part - Carlos
The biggest troll is trump himself.
Light Michaels drumpf*
@American Gold Eagle yep
When he says he will stop the war in syria but then he launch rockets to some al assad's millitary base
So funny I forgot the laugh!
@American Gold Eagle Better than 4 years of Trump nightmare.
gosh, please don't put high pitch noise in your video.
albb0920 lol I thought my phone speaker 🔊 was broken
Someone's never lived with tinnitus before.
I thought I was having a stroke for a sec
albb0920, it's because it's not normal.
Pretty sure they do that to get around TH-cam's automatic copyright detection system. It was particularly horrific though. Most channels these days just offset the sound by a second or two which is a bit painful as well when you can see the speaker's lips not syncing up, but at least its not physical pain..
am i the only one to hear a rising ring noise at 0:27
LOL
No, it was excruciating.
that is what tinnitus is like. its real and its a disability.
It was so annoying, I was deciding to end the video
Just down the Volume your not gonna die from a youtube video.
i stopped reading the news and that worries me but i got tired of bullshit
isabel print journalism isn't so bad, it's tv that's terrible
isabel blebel Follow You can just follow academic blog's, podcast and so on.
I find if you just read the news, you can control what you read and don't.
Reading and watching the news is a good way to hone your bullshit detector :)
...also known as "Italian elections for dummies "
Why, exactly
Was that shrill ringing on purpose?
This video continues the trend of Carlos’ content getting better and better every time it comes out. Kudos, man!
Thanks for the tinnitus @ 00:22
i live with that almost all of the time, wear your earplugs. its not fun, right? its a real disability.
What do I imagine when I hear the word troll?
It's what grade you get if you fail a test in Harry Potter
Or alternatively
"TROLL!! IN THE DUNGEON!!!!!!"
BookBug 4Life ILU!
bookish * then faints and drops to the floor *
Trump is trolling america while his supporters either are calling it fake news... Its expose and they say trump was joking or any other bs 😂😂😂
BookBug 4Life actually there were 3 grades for failing with troll being the lowest
These videos are brilliant. You break these things down so well. Thank you for doing this.
Thanks for cutting through the noise and making us more informed
Well done! Would love to see more videos that clearly define an idea in political theory and an example of it in current events. It's a great tool to help those without a background in the nitty gritty of bullshit- I mean politics- navigate the current media landscape.
I really like strikethrough, and I really like you hosting, Carlos. The vibe is engaging and witty in all of them. This episode was particularly well done, in my opinion. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Misery loves company, right?
Same things has been happening in India , just replace 'conspiracy' with random outrage from the fringe groups and propaganda of our 'Supreme Leader' being shoved down our throat.
Prabhodya Singh that's not the same thing. These random groups aren't baiting because this is what they actually believe.
E,g. Sikhs r outraged at the Indian governments treatment of them and rightfully so as many have lost their lives over this...
Indian news is a completely different fuckfest. If media organizations like Vox ever decided to cover them... Well, let's just say they won't ever run out of political topics to cover.
News cycle in india has become gossip columns - without fact checking / verification any news circulated becomes headlines ... Its such a sad state of affairs ....
Oh
Hello lib left 😅
You could become lib right, but you chose to be the worst 😊
Auth right > auth left > lib right >>>> lib left.
I absolutely love this series. VOX is the only media outlet that actually does deep digging on media scrutiny. IT's very important to call these tactics out and make the media and viewers aware of what they're doing wrong. Even if intentionally.
Wow! Vox, this is actually a decent less biased story.
Kudos!
Carlos Maza's show is the best one on Vox! Thumbs up!
Dude, that analogy was on point, the camera guy should be ashamed of himself for doubting
This might the best video on politics that Vox has made so far
Who's watching this during the bombshell of John Bolton's new book?
CNN, MSNBC going segment after segment after John Bolton's book. Seems like Mainstream Media fell for the bait again.
@@thenewfatcat You can read the book and verify what is true from the news
It's like the 24 Hour News Cycle always finds bait and covers it because its rewarded with viewers and its a vicious cycle. 24 Hour News Channels should have more restraint like mentioned in the end of this video, but sadly News Room editors won't change and ultimately aim for ratings to please advertisers.
"DEEPER THAN WATERGATE!??!?" I lost it. This is truly ridiculous.
Very well said.
Wonderful research and observation from Carlos, Vox and team. This video should go viral and make people realize what is really going behind the scenes
It’s pretty safe to say that anything Nunes says is trolling.
Did anyone else find that static noise in the beginning piercingly traumatic? Yikes.
Wow. Vox today is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the best news channel out there. Period!
Please keep up the good work!
One of the greatest segments on the whole internet
2:47 You should know better than that by now Rachel. Your reaction should have been, "Oh no! Not again."
Keep up the truth. Love the full-circle Charlie Brown analogy and side shade at Milo, hah. Thanks for another well-put-together video!
This is so good. Nice work guys!
Give this guy a tonight show
And thus shifts the Overton Window, a little bit more...
0:40 I haven’t even watched the full video yet, and I already love it because of the funny music.
I like how this video mentions Milo Yiannopoulos unfavorably and insighted a curiosity that led to me binge watch his media to the point where I'm now an avid fan, Thanks Vox!
Yoooo why is there high pitch noise....
Abhijeet Shalom Is it supposed to be a dog whistle?
An episode of strikethrough that actually (kind of) nonpartisan?!?! Insanity! Good video, guys
Maybe they should just report news. Not speculation. Not predictions. Not amping us up for a huge bombshell. But just news.
So important. Great vid guys.
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Thanks for trolling us with that high-pitched noise.
grow up some people live with that everyday. its real and its a disability.
That's why talk show hosts are smart: They can call out "THAT"S BS!" while the big news argues over it as if it was an existential philosophy. I want to see how much longer can the administration "call wolf" until the news realize they were being played all along, or will there be a real wolf, in the end, to rip those senators, reps, and spokespeople into pieces.
You could mention that every time he's said he was going to release a memo (but for some reason didn't do it right then), it was a big fat lie. And that he'd lied repeatedly to get attention, like a toddler.
Maybe then he'd stop doing it. Maybe give him heaps of shame and scorn and humiliation every time he does it. See if that works.
I stopped watching mainstream news when I stopped listening to high school gossip. Academic blog's, podcast and lectures only for me.
Troll dolls were pretty cool
The thing is, this is not just restricted to Republicans, although mostly it is Republicans who do it. There are some Democrats who do this behavior.
trolling is putting a tinnitus sound in full volume at 0:22 . Thank you that really hurts
Ow. Whoever's sensitive to mosquito tones, mute the video from 0:22-0:30. So so painful x.x
I am centered, but Vox did a good job in this video.
Nah, you are both wrong. Carlos is nearer the center than both of y'all.
Peoplekind I am more centered and agree...
Vox says it like it is, and that’s what the American people need right now
Well done, well done!
Warning, triggered republicans coming
I'm just here to not miss the show xd
hellhero999 we don't get triggered, we just don't like liars.
Soviete Onion Have you not seen the Republican rallys after Obama's victory...twice.....
@Daniel That's not what Politifact says.
Daniel Mihalko Unless they’re lying to help YOUR side! It’s not violating the Ninth Commandment if you’re lying FOR Jesus!
Vox really did a great job explaining why this is a major problem. I am a little concerned that they seem to think this is a new phenomenon. It either means they are entirely naive or they are entirely partisan.
Both !
It rose, it rose, it rose, it rose, and at the end it hurled down like a meteorite
Charlie Brown actually sued Lucy for the back injuries he got from her utter lack of conscience. The settlement was for $35m - Lucy is now turning tricks to stay out of jail for non payment. True story.
What is that high pitch noise in your video holy s*** you're making my ears bleed 0:25
I imagine "roblox"
There was an NRA comercial before this video lol
Thanks for the insights. Great video.
I love how super conservative & far right Prager.U. has bought out ads for every moderate to left-leaning TH-cam channel's videos.
Just Brilliant👌
The problem is people pay too much attention on conspiracy, suspicion, rumors, relevance, yet don’t care the fact, the evidence, official reports and logic
I liked that upright bass in the music
6:12 why can’t networks like CNN ignore them? Leave the coverage to Fox News.
CNN gets a lot of ad revenue with that type of coverage?
Nice keep it up
The analogy used in this video was spot on. What a sad state of affairs where we can used a cartoon to describe the state of politics!
I'm just discovering VOX, great analysis and it's entertaining too.
For those of you who are blaming the media; when a politician is suspected of being corrupt, that's real news, it's not the medias fault for covering it, it's not the media's fault that the politicians turned out to be lying. Blame the troll, not the troll victims.
HammerBroGH these conclusions are made by analyst who do this kind of thing for a living. They're not random people with opinions they find on the internet. And i have no idea what you're talking about with the rest of your comment.
You're right in that the politicians are the number 1 guilty party here, but the media isn't the victims, they have been raking in profits over hyperinflating GOP trolling over other important information because said behavior gets more eyeballs per minute (and therefore revenue) watching their news channel, which is all they care about in a for-profit, corporate newsroom. They benefit greatly from the cartoonishly awful behavior that they can spend days focusing on instead of more complicated, but pressing issues.
Counter arguments used that exact same charlie clip in a similarly themed video and his vid got demonetised because of it. Wtf youtube?
I didn’t get an ad on this vid but idk Vox is probably different because they’re more of a network than a TH-cam channel
Vox, being a big and professional company, probably got express permission from whoever owns Peanuts
nice analogy.
Man, this is one of the best guys on vox. If he had his own channel I'd subscribe in a heartbeat.
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Hi *JUST CAME* how're you doing?
Sorry, I hate myself the appropriate amount lol
Yeah u should hate yourself
I think of roblox..
Politicians troll the media? And here I thought it was unemployed college students pissed off about their tuition debts when they realize that art degree isn't gonna get them a job.
Awesome work
Just like when my Doctor trolled me by saying the lump was cancerous.. I didn't fall for it though.. * cough * * cough * No matter how hard he tried to sell it by having me declared incapable of making sensible decisions. * cough * * cough *
I gotta go lay down.
Troll-ception
So I guess you think there is no such thing as trolling or you think politicians are equivalent to your doctor. Either way i feel sorry for you :( good luck in life buddy, you'll need it...
Nam Thai He´s a fulll time troll who apparently has absolutly nothing else to do in his life. You can find him trolling pretty much every comment section on any larger channel.
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A full-time troll. Wow, that must be an interesting friendless life...Well, it's not a permanent condition.
You forgot to mention Trump
Yep, Donald made trolling main stream.
It was assumed
No he's just that dumb
Jay I don't. think he's that dumb honestly.
The news hasn’t happened yet
that high pitched noise in the beginning nearly killed my ears!
I can tell you one thing, when I hear the world "ball" I don't imagine an egg-shaped object.
This is not trolling 101, this is journalism 101.
Albara Darwish hah yes! yes it is.
It is not an internet coversation to have about whether jounrailsm in school is the same as journalism in the world we are in today. You and I both know it is NOT.
Not trolling.
You gotta pay the troll toll if you wanna get into this boy’s soul.
@Godzilla McDolan
I believe the world is a simulation and nothing is real.
Now i will crawl back under my bridge. ;)
Dross M I could be wrong but I think he's making fun of the media for not fact checking their work, hence calling it journalism 101 for the level of journalism that actually goes into the work of our media these days.
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Begging for likes on youtube? thats just sad man
I used to think media was a foreign word because My parents told me what it’s called, and in kindergarten I said I liked media and everyone was confused.
The Charlie Brown analogy makes this sooo shareable to my friends and family who need a 101.
America is not even worth paying serious attention to, but its worth laughing at tho 😂😂😂
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Ay missed you man, where you've been so long? Your videos always great to watch Thank you
My favorite cartoon and my favorite Vox reporter together in the same episode❤️😊👍
#vox
Shows CNN for every news clip
kunj patel that's not even true
kunj patel stop lying troll
Thanks Vox. I've been trying to convince people cable news rots your brain to no avail!
0:00 Grey-skinned, yellow-eyed humanoid aliens with black hair and horns resembling candy corn.
But how is Aids not funny?
Wiebel’s Personal Channel Wtf why did I find your comment funny lol
I find both my comment and aids quite funny.
Christopher Bachtiar Aids is quite funny isn't it?
Opened the video. Saw that guy. Closed the video.
Hazzardworks very intelligent way of thinking
Everyone cares, keep us informed.
Цугундер Шнеерсон Will do. :)
I thought I had tinnitus for a minute there.