yeah, but if you can harness the raw compute power of those 2 GPU's it'll leave the 10 grand CPU standing. a theoretical 28 Teraflops at 32 bit precision.
Climate Change Fan Club Yeah, but I referred to all the ppl pointing out how rich he must be because he just had another 2080Ti casually sitting around, when he, at the same time, also has a $10,000 CPU just right next to him :D
I like how everybody acts surprised that he's got *another* (OMG!) 2080Ti! like he totally would've painted it, if it was his only 2080Ti. like a video production company having several high-end GPUs sitting in store was something totally unheard of. like Linus never was a product manager at a big retail store and built this channel using the connections he got from that. I find it kinda hilarious, how people don't get it's a business, lol. Driving a 100,000$ harvesting machine across a giant acre doesn't make the farmer a millionaire either...
Sagess Aries I do know that he has a lot of money, but what I was trying to point out was that whilst everyone focuses on the fact that Linus can just easily get another 2080Ti to replace the broken one, the CPU next to him is literally 5x times the GPU’s worth, yet everyone ignores it
Linus: Breaks a Xeon Platinum 8180 and an RTX 2080 TI, which are worth more than $11K together. Also Linus: Casually pulls out a new Xeon Platinum 8180 and a new RTX 2080 TI like it's no big deal.
Every LTT build video: "Always plug everything into the board on top of the motherboard box and power it on to see if it works before mounting it in the case." This video: "Well this is the CPU I dropped with a bad memory channel and the GPU I took apart and hydro-dipped. I hope everything works." *Crams everything into a tiny case without testing it.*
Linus: The memory channel on this broken CPU isn't working, I think it might be the motherboard. Also linus: the fan on this gpu we took apart and put back together isn't working, I think it's the motherboards fault.
I was feeling the same thing. Imagine that you don't linus this motherboard, and sit there grinding your teeth as he screws up, over and over. Hey, but it's content!
How I imagine this board came about: Asrock Engineer 1: "This socket is so big, wouldn't it look hilarious on a mini-ITX board?" Asrock Engineer 2: "Lol, let's make one"
Hi Linus, just a heads up. To get into the RAID controller usually on these newer boards, you first need to set the legacy option rom to ON and enable the legacy boot options. Once you're in and configure your raid, you can set the board back to the UEFI/Secure Boot if wanted.
These motherboards don't have raid controllers, it's just glorified software raid. You'd be better off using windows or Linux software raid so you're not at the mercy of the glitchy bios.
Hey guys just a heads up new episode of Grand Hotel on ABC at 9:00 pm (and you can watch on Hulu) on August 12,2019 Monday,trust me it’s a good show!!!
You have to remember he employs a lot of "Linus you are a god", people. So if you hear you are a god all day long you would think nothing was your fault either. I am just speculating while smoking my bong on the last day of my vacation before work starts back up. So fuck off.
Problem with Linus is there isn't anyone to challenge his bs. Years ago, i ran a small tech firm that dealt specifically with government work, first thing i did was to inform people that i didn't need that kind of attitude and that if problems pop out, there's always reason for talks. I cannot stress, enough, how much that has saved our bacon.
It is definitely not a rook, those have crenellations on top. It’s either a pawn or a bishop. Probably a pawn due to its small height relative to its width.
@@Wingnut353 I've got a stupidly rich uncle, man is as frugal as they come and lives in a small house and drives around in a 20 year old Volvo that he's had since brand new.
You notice it's the same day too!? LMAO Intel is trying to hold onto their market existing shareholders as much as they can! Even though it's marketing smarts it screams attention and desperate TBH
@@FARBerserker You know its good to have BOTH companies being successful yes? Hell Cyrix, IBM, Motorola, & VIA, etc should still be making CPUs and its sad that they arent. Meanwhile in video cardland the consumer is bottlenecked for the best because Savage, ATI, 3DfX etc are gone. Dont look forward to AMD doing in Intel or vice versa guys.
True, but you can do much more with that xeon than with the new ryzen. It's a server processor after all and parallelizing is just purely awesome on these things. Also, you can get that xeon for like 100 bucks, depending on where you live. Ah.. and you can put two of these on one mainboard, just for info. On top of that, you can put ridiculous amounts of memory in these systems, if you need to and you also got plenty of PCI lanes, while a single ryzen is somewhat limited. Now, power consumption is another thing that increases with older architecture, when it comes to comparisons. All in all, the ryzen 9 is probably preferrable, but for those who know what to do with those old xeons, it's a very nice option!
I know. I looked at it and thought "Is that a chess pawn?" He's making suggestive jokes and even now I'm not getting it. If he's thinking about some part of human anatomy, I got news for him...a person would need to be deformed.
@@BenCos2018 I also have a worse GPU, a God awful RTX 2070 and GTX 1080, man are they horrible. Barely gives me 144fps at 1440p! Should've gotten the $1k card instead 😂😂 /end sarcasm
5:06 - This is actually the CPU that I dropped, so I'm hoping the dead memory channel has a permanent home. Maybe ASrock built this Motherboard...just for me! -Linus Drop Tips 2019
Linus This Xeon Platinum 8180 is the one I dropped, se we will use another one This RTX2080Ti is the one we hydro-dipped, so we will use another one Me: Well.... This corner looks pretty good to sit and cry my eyes out :'(
I can imagine Asrock's regular meetings: "Hey, here is a problem which might be a problem for only half percent of some niche group." "Let's solve it." I love this company.
It's not an LTT video if Linus isn't breaking his toys. I also claim it's cheating if he's bringing in toys he broke in other videos instead of breaking new toys.
"Two memory channels aren't working, so I think there might be something wrong with the motherboard." No, Linus, you dropped the CPU. "The graphics card fans are running at full speed, so I think there might be something wrong with the motherboard." No, Linus, you dipped the graphics card in paint.
@@Choice777 are you stupid? Cases don't really change and almost all case videos are the same. Also the channel is not really a review's channel anymore but more a project channel. Nothing to do with elitist. If you actually watch ltt videos you would not say something that stupid.
I miss this type of format videos, is not a review, is not fully scripted, it's just Linus finding something that he likes and explaining why he thinks it's extremely cool.
True. Asrock wouldn't send him anything if he wasn't using their hardware already...and while they aren't really well known for their mainstream htpc/gaming boards, they are incredibly well known with regards to the crypto mining industry. Their h81 pro HTC, especially the 2nd revision, is still found on many mining rigs today. So, linus is low key still using their stuff somewhere.
@@johnnyparsnips7641 You have to use an ASIC to mine Bitcoin profitably. If you want to mine cryptocurrency on standard hardware, there are a multitude of other cryptocurrencies on different algorithms that are profitable.
So this 28 core isn't detecting 2 RAM channels, I decided to replace it with another 28 core just lying around. Then this 2080 ti fan is noisy, so I'll just replace it with a still wrapped 2080ti. Then I woke up from my wet dream.
Actually he had 2 for a project, provided by Intel, but then had to buy matched qualification samples because he dropped one of these and couldn't finish the project. So he has one that works and one that's broken anyway.
@@Boomhauer100 I'm now on a detox from factorio, but one time I was like "yeah, I will try one more idea in factorio" and then... Bam 67 hours in a week. And I'm full time working and father
He just uses the games he likes for benchmarking instead of the games people tell him to use. The ultimate flex, Linus is basically the Chad of tech channels.
Anyone else had a weird advert come up on TH-cam talking about terrorism and then there’s some fake puppet guy playing poker with cocaine and a cigar and then there’s other fake puppet guys popping out of his cards. Wtf is it, TH-cam is demonetising people’s videos for the slightest things and they let adverts like that show.
I love these really unique components, it's a shame that the economy can't incentivise these kind of weird and wonderful products, I can't imagine ASRock was ever intending to make a profit on this.
Super computer CPUs are easily 240T nowadays. Even though not all threads are created equally, as long as there's a consumer version of such chip come out, such record would become pretty pointless, like, it doesn't indicate performance in any way, just "might boost certain workflow" and that's it. (But then, we would have to question whether GPU should be considered a special type of CPU or not.) But otherwise, I have a feeling that it's possible to build a "small" form factor quad CPU workstation as long as you hand craft the whole case and thermal solution, but it's won't be very practical to build such system unless the main purpose is to brag about how many cores you jam in the case.
This is Xeon only, so the AMD equivalent would be Epyc. They launched 64 core/128 thread Epyc a couple days before this video dropped...what a coincidence. I'm sure ASRock will have an ITX motherboard for that in the next few months. Not sure if it will be featured on this channel though.
@@SimonWoodburyForget I think generally the case size is limited by thermal capacity most. Sure, you can have very small smart phones, but if you want to stack them up and run them like a computing farm, it's another story. Therefore it's probably best to just have a regular size case if there is enough room. And about portability, I think it'll become pointless when the form factor requires mandatory external cooling. Other than that, it's really just, how many people would actually need a portable render farm in a box. Therefore, portable small form factor computer with 5GHz i7 is probably a good idea (it's useful, which I guess you already agreed), portable small form factor 112 core quad Xeon, well, not really (even if someone can afford it I don't think it's really worth the trouble as it likely won't improve workflow).
As a developer, who often runs multiple VM's and/or docker containers at a time, and multiple.instances of Visual Studio and Resharper, this would actually make sense. Especially considering that I could bring it with me for on-site client work.
Because threads, and cores to a point, dont equal game smoothness, dimwit. That processor is for like servers and lots of small, complex strings, not ~gaming~. So he obviously could be a bit surprised. Even the highest games only use 3 threads max
@@ninjanippledog725 he has a 2080ti, he could use an i3 thats half dead and still run games perfectly "dimwit" welcome to the now toxic conversation a month late
@@ninjanippledog725 Mate...you're right to an extent, but you're just as dumb as him. No. Doom 2016 for ex supports up to 36 threads. Most games can take advantage of more than 4 threads now. This is why you don't see clock speeds bottlenecking games nearly as much as they have in the past.
The Asrock EPC621D4I-2M is designed specifically for short-depth server enclosures. It allows inferencing at the edge in a compact form factor, for very niche uses. Many design trade-offs were required, as noted in the beginning of your review.
I mean in like 5 years they'll probably be fairly cheap, because of the constant technological advancements of the modern computer industry, so you might hear it again.
At 6:20 he says he loves how easy the mini ITX is to build with "JUST SLAP A COUPLE OF DRIVES ON THE BOTTOM". If that computer is already built that means completely disassembling it to upgrade/replace an m.2 drive. RIDICULOUSLY EASY.
Most good cases give you access to the back of your mother board. So its just popping off an access panel and boom done. m.2's on the back of the boards is a very good idea imo.
i LOVE things like this. it makes an incredibly powerful workstation in a small form factor, making it even possible for portability. i dont think the motherboard was intended to be a server at all. i think its meant to be a light workstation.
@@pulitha8689 In many parts of the world, a dot "." is used to denote thousands, and a comma "," is used to denote decimals. Common in Europe, off the top of my head.
@@realszn The US and UK are of the few places in the western world that use a decimal point as the radix operator. Many, if not most, other countries use a comma, like so: 2.350.034,62 instead of 2,350,034.62
@@nicksparrow009 didn't they shun tunnelbear as a sponsor months ago because of some issue with their product not being up to snuff? I'm pretty sure they said on a WAN show that they can't stand behind tunnelbear as sponsor any more for some reason. In any case, LTT hasn't had a video sponsored by tunnelbear in a long time, so your point is invalid!
10:17 It reminds me of a chess piece (Pawn) Linus, I think youre the one who needs to grow up lol EDIT: In short Educated Fan base: We see a chess piece Linus: Hehehe, sex toy (I’m assuming)
Brett Bates Asrock.. Worst motherboard “manufacturer” in the world.. They never engineer anything properly and they use shit components.. You wanna buy a cheaper-than-dirt board? Buy Asrock.. But keep in mind that you’re getting all the downsides of that.
Brett Bates Keep telling yourself that.. It’s fucking garbage and it’s made to squeeze money out of people that know nothing about hardware.. It’s like Seagate.. There’s a fucking reason I primarily see Asrock and Seagate products in my repair business and I can’t help my customers because they opted to buy the cheap crap and lost all their data.
5:10 "This is the CPU I dropped" - you gotta be more specific than that
This needs more likes 😂😂
it's 5:06 ;)
Me: Which one? :P
You know how little it narrows it down
@@louiefriesen r/wooosh that... is the joke
I like how everybody is focused on the 2 2080Ti's when he has a $10,000 CPU just right next to him.
yeah, but if you can harness the raw compute power of those 2 GPU's it'll leave the 10 grand CPU standing. a theoretical 28 Teraflops at 32 bit precision.
Climate Change Fan Club
Yeah, but I referred to all the ppl pointing out how rich he must be because he just had another 2080Ti casually sitting around, when he, at the same time, also has a $10,000 CPU just right next to him :D
I like how everybody acts surprised that he's got *another* (OMG!) 2080Ti!
like he totally would've painted it, if it was his only 2080Ti.
like a video production company having several high-end GPUs sitting in store was something totally unheard of.
like Linus never was a product manager at a big retail store and built this channel using the connections he got from that.
I find it kinda hilarious, how people don't get it's a business, lol. Driving a 100,000$ harvesting machine across a giant acre doesn't make the farmer a millionaire either...
Sagess Aries I do know that he has a lot of money, but what I was trying to point out was that whilst everyone focuses on the fact that Linus can just easily get another 2080Ti to replace the broken one, the CPU next to him is literally 5x times the GPU’s worth, yet everyone ignores it
@Sagess Aries He's also got hundreds of thousands invested in equipment, production costs, staff salaries, etc... but yeah.
Note to self: Never buy used hardware from LTT.
No no, note to self: never buy off linus. Everyone else is fine. Well maybe excluding luke, he gets in on the breaking xd
No no no, note to self: only trust Anthony, everyone else is not trustworthy to buy from
@Kevin Gilbert how about, yes
Hey, it works fine, it even runs super cool compared to most 2080 Tis.
Unless they drop prices like Linus drops things
10:20: How immature of SilverStone to include a pawn from a chess set in the case mounting hardware.
It's not the first time he has handled a black "pawn" either, I bet.
jazfromhouston oof
Thought it was a rook or a bishop, myself.
These are the same guys who designed the racoon city sewer system lmao
it actually looked like a tulip though
"There is something to be said for working with miniature sized hardware."
-Linus Sebastian 2019
I think thats why he found the standoff at 10:21 was so interesting, while the rest of us thought, "chess piece."
Gary Hillis oh yeah what does that look like? i didnt get it... some sort of sex toy i haven't seen?
That’s what she said
@@Hi11is Haha I was thinking "Linus wtf... you mean to tell us THAT thing resembles your PENIS!?!"
Miniature hardware indeed.
Actual size*
Linus: This 2080 Ti's fans aren't working right, let's try something else
Also Linus: Unwraps brand new 2080 Ti just because he can
thats just how you show that youre a badass xd
Literally came to the comments to say something along the same lines
All the flex.
I was super confused by this comment till I saw the rest of the vidoe
It also has an extra usb port.
Linus: Breaks a Xeon Platinum 8180 and an RTX 2080 TI, which are worth more than $11K together.
Also Linus: Casually pulls out a new Xeon Platinum 8180 and a new RTX 2080 TI like it's no big deal.
Maaaaaaaaaaaagiiiiiiiic!!!
Even his stare makes me feel poor
Ikr 😭
Its linus freaking tech tips , what do you expect xD ! Hahaha
It's like watching a fat guy lighting up a cigar with a $100 usd bill in ol' classic cartoons.
"Does this remind you of anything"
Yes linus. It's clearly a bishop chess piece.
Yeah, really? If someone thinks that's a buttplug, they either know nothing about buttplugs, or they're into pain.
Honestly that's all I could see.
Haaaaha, same... was really struggling to get what linus was pointing at.
InstabilerStoff i thought it looked like baby groot lmao
I thought it's a pawn
when you have an extra RTX 2080Ti just sittin there....
Yeah man, I hate it when RTX 2080 Ti-s just block my way to my bed.
Guess that kinda stuff classifies as #FirstWorldProblems (:
wish I had the kind of money where I just get a new one instead of taking some time to fix the old
You guys are surprised lol does anyone remember the old house they were stepping over titans.
And Xeon Platinum 8180. A $13,000 CPU...
Every LTT build video: "Always plug everything into the board on top of the motherboard box and power it on to see if it works before mounting it in the case."
This video: "Well this is the CPU I dropped with a bad memory channel and the GPU I took apart and hydro-dipped. I hope everything works." *Crams everything into a tiny case without testing it.*
That's what happens when you have to build a lot in a week
@@shzammpatapon9865 Or when Anthony is not there haha
In fairness, he’s used them in other builds before
*Linus:* * Uses brand new board with broken custom cpu and graphics card *
*Computer:* * Doesn’t work *
*Linus:* Must be the board
If it's not working, it's obviously the board, it can't be the broken components.
custom cpu?
@@4zims i think they meant broken cpu and custom graphics card
Board- all around me are familiar faces
@@4zims Linus customized it by dropping it.
Linus: The memory channel on this broken CPU isn't working, I think it might be the motherboard.
Also linus: the fan on this gpu we took apart and put back together isn't working, I think it's the motherboards fault.
I was feeling the same thing. Imagine that you don't linus this motherboard, and sit there grinding your teeth as he screws up, over and over. Hey, but it's content!
How I imagine this board came about:
Asrock Engineer 1: "This socket is so big, wouldn't it look hilarious on a mini-ITX board?"
Asrock Engineer 2: "Lol, let's make one"
"When engineers lose their minds"
...Everybody wins! (If you’re LTT)
I almost wonder if they didn't make it for something specific and didn't just get drunk one night and start selling it
@@RedBeardWalking that starts from the 2011 socket... they have something like that years ago.
forgot to cite the approval of the company's CEO.
Linus: Casually whips out another 2080 Ti
Me: Cries a little inside :'(
What about the bit where he just whips out a second $10000 CPU
@@superjanitor123 Except that CPU will be no faster in games or any programs I ever use, so tbh I don't care nearly as much.
and im here bitching about only have one rtx 2060ti
a little????????????
i passed out...
@@Andy47357 its fune unless you start getting into 1440p 144hz and 4k 60fps
"Does this remind you of anything"
A chess piece?
I honestly thought the same thing
I can't decide between a queen or a bishop.
I thought it was a pawn? :/
Definately a pawn.
Freud would have a laugh at that..
10:17 I was gonna say a chess piece.
I don't think Silverstone is the one that needs to grow up, Linus...
Thought the same thing
lol thought about the same thing and went to the straight up to the comments to see if anybody said something
Yea
Hi Linus, just a heads up. To get into the RAID controller usually on these newer boards, you first need to set the legacy option rom to ON and enable the legacy boot options.
Once you're in and configure your raid, you can set the board back to the UEFI/Secure Boot if wanted.
These motherboards don't have raid controllers, it's just glorified software raid. You'd be better off using windows or Linux software raid so you're not at the mercy of the glitchy bios.
The Amazon link is useless; no search results. And neither newegg site has the EPC621D4I-2M. People reviewed this in May, so why is nobody selling it?
Hey guys just a heads up new episode of Grand Hotel on ABC at 9:00 pm (and you can watch on Hulu) on August 12,2019 Monday,trust me it’s a good show!!!
@robertbslee Still slow compared to ASIC based, even if you have CPU power to spare and dont care. It will be slower :).
@@doctorwrm But, doesn't the 8180 have VROC? or am I confused about this whole thing...?
Linus: breaks 2080 ti
Linus: casually pulls out another 2080 ti
That's the privilege of being an op in a game. Here it's tech 😂
Forgot the part where you broke the CPU to...
Hahahahaha..
_Probably using real-world infinite money cheat codes_
I had the same problem with my RTX2080 when it just released. The fans just turned on and didn't turn off. It was horrible!
Something not working!!!
Possibility 1 : Manufacturer's fault
Possibility 2 : Linus's fault
And its always possibility 2
You have to remember he employs a lot of "Linus you are a god", people. So if you hear you are a god all day long you would think nothing was your fault either. I am just speculating while smoking my bong on the last day of my vacation before work starts back up. So fuck off.
Problem with Linus is there isn't anyone to challenge his bs. Years ago, i ran a small tech firm that dealt specifically with government work, first thing i did was to inform people that i didn't need that kind of attitude and that if problems pop out, there's always reason for talks. I cannot stress, enough, how much that has saved our bacon.
@@Bhetacarn aren't you one salty boy?
@@aserta another jelly boy
No.
Something not working!!!
P.1: Manufacturer's messed up
P.2: Linus dropped it
Linus: Expects build to work
Also Linus: Uses broken parts
and he is not able to recognize a USB3 connector on a motherboard for front panel....
@@Groove1024 what are you talking about?
"Does this remind you of anything"
Me:"A bishop?"
Came here for this! ...Or a mini-Queen...
Came to make this exact comment. Well, i'm off to polish my bishop.
I was thinking a pawn
all i could think of was maybe a butt plug but idk.
Some people have pawn on the brain.
"This is a mature, high-brow channel."
Top right corner: BUY OUR UNDERWEAR!
To be fair, apparently it is a highbrow, quality undergarment.
I don't understand the reference for Silverstone little piece... can you help me?
@@IIARROWS really?
@@ryanhodgkin7475 Really... It goes out of focus so fast, looks like a bishop.
@@IIARROWS na it's a butt plug looking thing lmao
- VGA port
- No headphone jack
Future is now.
Courage
VGA, along with USB 3.0
@@dragonborn.k A bit dated, but take a look at Asrock 980DE3/U3S3 - a floppy connector alongside a USB3
@@xbspiro WAT?! I've seen a floppy power connecter on my PSU, but that's it.
Don't let Apple read that comment!
Linus: Does this remind you of anything?
Everyone in the comments: A pawn.
It's a tower / general.
It is definitely not a rook, those have crenellations on top. It’s either a pawn or a bishop. Probably a pawn due to its small height relative to its width.
Looked like a mini Joy Stick to me.
It amazes me how Linus has 2080's popping outta nowhere.
Meanwhile Im refreshing eBay daily to snag one for cheap since its one of the few to properly run a Valve Index... x.x
People having piles of these things laying around is why us normies can't find any.
1 2 is this a joke?
And he’s not tryna share either
BryceTheBucket jayZtwocents is the same way. He has dozens of RTX cards and openly said he doesn’t have any intention to sell them.
Mah man brings 2080ti 's as if they grow in his backyard .
... after earlier swapping out a broken $10k CPU as well. All up this system must have cost around $25k including all the broken parts!
@@elysian5028 yeahh i dont think he would mind buying them i mean he has the money
@@andi807 I mean he did drive his old car for like forever... he isn't wasteful in real life.
@@Wingnut353 I've got a stupidly rich uncle, man is as frugal as they come and lives in a small house and drives around in a 20 year old Volvo that he's had since brand new.
They just show up free in the mail - close enough. 😁👌
Linus: Builds a small form factor PC with a tiny server motherboard.
Also Linus: Why doesn't this have front panel USB?
It's not uncommon for servers to have front panel USB, though
Everyone already knows hes a tard bruh.......
And why isn't the PCB black? Time for a very expensive Linus paint job
@@themanthemyththelegend1392 so many salty kids here. Grow the fuck up.
"The cooler's bigger than the motherboard!" said everyone who's ever bought an NH-D15 or similar
"Does this remind you of anything"
Adults also play chess, Linus.
I cannot figure out what he thinks it looks like!
@@FrederSnorlax right I was also thinking bishop pawn queen what?
@@TheChinBurton Looks more like a flower to me than a chess piece
@@MortenErCrazy oh..ok that must be what he was talking about. Maybe he is around them more than some of us.
Yeah I couldn't see anything other than a Queen/Pawn hybrid.
Linus: "why people could need 28 cores for"
AMD: **RELEASE 64 CORE CPU**
You notice it's the same day too!? LMAO Intel is trying to hold onto their market existing shareholders as much as they can! Even though it's marketing smarts it screams attention and desperate TBH
It's a slaughter...
@@Junior305able Intel ANNOUNCED their 56 Core CPU on the Day or day before AMD RELEASES its 64 Core CPU . . that is kinda desperate and sad i think.
@@FARBerserker You know its good to have BOTH companies being successful yes? Hell Cyrix, IBM, Motorola, & VIA, etc should still be making CPUs and its sad that they arent. Meanwhile in video cardland the consumer is bottlenecked for the best because Savage, ATI, 3DfX etc are gone. Dont look forward to AMD doing in Intel or vice versa guys.
Junior305able intels the apple of CPU’s people will buy it no matter what
"I accidentally had Anno sitting in the background sucking up 2% of the CPU."
Like a freaking windows solitaire.
I'm loving the fact that 3 years later, my $575 Ryzen 9 7950x is smashing that xeon in cinebench r15. It's crazy how fast technology moves
And the current xeon smashes the Ryzen, your are absolutely correct
True, but you can do much more with that xeon than with the new ryzen. It's a server processor after all and parallelizing is just purely awesome on these things. Also, you can get that xeon for like 100 bucks, depending on where you live. Ah.. and you can put two of these on one mainboard, just for info. On top of that, you can put ridiculous amounts of memory in these systems, if you need to and you also got plenty of PCI lanes, while a single ryzen is somewhat limited.
Now, power consumption is another thing that increases with older architecture, when it comes to comparisons.
All in all, the ryzen 9 is probably preferrable, but for those who know what to do with those old xeons, it's a very nice option!
@@Lucas_sGarage who asked though
@@Lucas_sGarage and how much does the xeon cost?
10:22 it looks like a chess figure Linus stop thinking with you dirty mind
glad im not the only one
Thought it was a flower🤣
I honestly can't figure out whatever Linus was thinking about.
I know. I looked at it and thought "Is that a chess pawn?" He's making suggestive jokes and even now I'm not getting it. If he's thinking about some part of human anatomy, I got news for him...a person would need to be deformed.
@@nakyer I thought it was a chess piece too, but I think he was insinuating it looked like a butt plug.
The gpu is not working properly lets just unbox another RTX 2080 Ti piled with the others.
i was looking at my HD 7850 and i cried😪
[Cries in 10 year old laptop with intel HD 3000 ]
i had a worse GPU (nivda geforce gt140)
@@BenCos2018 I also have a worse GPU, a God awful RTX 2070 and GTX 1080, man are they horrible. Barely gives me 144fps at 1440p! Should've gotten the $1k card instead 😂😂
/end sarcasm
@@TheGauges420 also children in africa could eat those two cards man
28 cores at 100% and 55-60 degrees. That is why Noctua is the best
Not sure even if the test put the process to 100% but yeah Noctua is the best.
Noctua is amazing, but sadly people rather choose flashy aios
@@smallfoot5689 An aio can be better for people that travel a lot to reduce strain of a hefty cooler on a mobo.
@Advocatus Diaboli What happens when your water cooling tubes spring a leak? Bzzzztttt...that's the sound of $10k Canadian electronics shorted.
@@cupcakebunnyprod How about leaks?
5:06 - This is actually the CPU that I dropped, so I'm hoping the dead memory channel has a permanent home. Maybe ASrock built this Motherboard...just for me!
-Linus Drop Tips 2019
Linus
This Xeon Platinum 8180 is the one I dropped, se we will use another one
This RTX2080Ti is the one we hydro-dipped, so we will use another one
Me: Well.... This corner looks pretty good to sit and cry my eyes out :'(
Ikr, Id take them both
What the hell, he actually has a brand new, unopened 2080ti laying around just in case
@@tiarkrezarpebkac when you are LTT yes, yes you do.
@@christopherrowe7860 lol you think just 1, its most likely a case of them hiding off screen
@@ronbaer67baer when you are LTT yes, yes you do.
"This is the CPU that I dropped"
This can't be the only one you've dropped
The only Xeon Platinum 8180 he has dropped.
I can imagine Asrock's regular meetings:
"Hey, here is a problem which might be a problem for only half percent of some niche group."
"Let's solve it."
I love this company.
I reckon someone at ASROCK just lost a bet...
I love Asrock. They also make the only readily-available Gemini Lake J5005 board, which builds a killer fanless Unraid or HTPC box.
Small form factor is trending, so they're catering to whales, I am sure.
Kind of... it was chiefly designed for short-depth server enclosures.
"...to handle this 28 core beast..."
AMD in 2020: *laughs in 3990X*
AMD in 2019 had already a 64c/128t, but nobody made a mini itx board for it.
I want a mini itx motherboard for it
I need a mATX TRX40 mobo to tame a 64 core beast (I'm looking at you, Intel)!
@@ferret1252 I doubt they'll ever make one, the socket is just too huge. mATX will be the smallest you'll get.
Would you look at that I found one of my old comments haha
Must be nice to have extra 28 core cpus and rtx supers laying around to replace the ones Linus broke.
At this point it is more of a necessity, really.
Honestly i think its because of his sponsorship
That is why you have them at hand.
Not an RTX Super tho, its a Ti O.o
You broke a 28 core Xeon and a 2080ti 🤦♂️
It's not an LTT video if Linus isn't breaking his toys. I also claim it's cheating if he's bringing in toys he broke in other videos instead of breaking new toys.
Any profit they make on adds is eaten up by the LINUS production costs. When he breaks things its technically LTT content at its finest.
If he isn't destroying $10k worth of stuff a week, it's just not a true Linus week!
"Two memory channels aren't working, so I think there might be something wrong with the motherboard."
No, Linus, you dropped the CPU.
"The graphics card fans are running at full speed, so I think there might be something wrong with the motherboard."
No, Linus, you dipped the graphics card in paint.
Yep. Linus is good for that sort of thing.
2080 ti: *doesn't work properly*
Linus: *materializes another one out of nowhere*
Also doesn't "review cases anymore"...what elitist bullshit from Linus.
@@Choice777 are you stupid? Cases don't really change and almost all case videos are the same. Also the channel is not really a review's channel anymore but more a project channel. Nothing to do with elitist. If you actually watch ltt videos you would not say something that stupid.
Conjure Spell: RTX 2080 Ti
@@Choice777 it's just not though
I miss this type of format videos, is not a review, is not fully scripted, it's just Linus finding something that he likes and explaining why he thinks it's extremely cool.
Linus: This is the Asrock EPC621D4I-2M
Me: Catchy name
really rolls off the tongue
Linus: "This board is so stupid!"
Also Linus: "Shout out to Asrock for building this cool board! "
Well, one doesn't exclude the other!
@@login0false Stupid hands cool. ovo
Props to that.
Linus: no crazy amount of cores just 10 to 18
me: cries in core duos
@@fayenotfaye that's not a bad cpu tho
Were you watching this with a Core Duo? I was on an Core i5.
I cry in i9 9900k
*Commits sudoku with my Pentium 4*
I'm gonna cry in my old Haswell core I5 4460.
"Ah yes this gpu the same cost as most peoples entire gaming set up is no good, let me unwrap another."
Linus in 1 hour:
"I was accidentally still Bitcoin mining in the background but I didn't notice"
True. Asrock wouldn't send him anything if he wasn't using their hardware already...and while they aren't really well known for their mainstream htpc/gaming boards, they are incredibly well known with regards to the crypto mining industry. Their h81 pro HTC, especially the 2nd revision, is still found on many mining rigs today. So, linus is low key still using their stuff somewhere.
😂😂😂
@@BobalouTheOneTheOnly uhh... Asrock sends them stuff anyways... It's potentially free advertising to millions of people...
@@johnnyparsnips7641 It's only worth it if you have free electricity, which works in like college dorms haha
@@johnnyparsnips7641 You have to use an ASIC to mine Bitcoin profitably. If you want to mine cryptocurrency on standard hardware, there are a multitude of other cryptocurrencies on different algorithms that are profitable.
So this 28 core isn't detecting 2 RAM channels, I decided to replace it with another 28 core just lying around.
Then this 2080 ti fan is noisy, so I'll just replace it with a still wrapped 2080ti. Then I woke up from my wet dream.
the 28 core cpu was droped by him :I and put together with glue
Actually he had 2 for a project, provided by Intel, but then had to buy matched qualification samples because he dropped one of these and couldn't finish the project. So he has one that works and one that's broken anyway.
Linus plays games at 7% cpu usage
While I open chrome and my cpu is at 100%
Laughs in 300% cpu usage
Edit: upgraded my pc couple of days ago and started using firefox, my life is a lot better now.
@@ezzyth8824 Yup, windows can be crazy sometimes and show a 300% usage when running in turbo
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replace your potato mate, samsung fridge wont lag
Kaysha Parkoo I’d hate to see your ram usage when using chrome.
i can relate
17:30 Am I the only one to squirm when someone is moving a running PC like that?
I keep forgetting that the mass storage is SSDs :)
Anno 1800 is the new Crysis for Linus. The new benchmark game for everything
That's what's called an addiction. I have that, but with Satisfactory.
@@FastSloth87 try Factorio then. Much more complex
@@Boomhauer100 I'm now on a detox from factorio, but one time I was like "yeah, I will try one more idea in factorio" and then... Bam 67 hours in a week. And I'm full time working and father
He just uses the games he likes for benchmarking instead of the games people tell him to use. The ultimate flex, Linus is basically the Chad of tech channels.
@@Velociapcior That's kind of impressive how you managed all of that in one week.
When Linus scratches his head dandruff doesn't fall, 2080's do.
Ti
*2080s don't fall, they crash around me~*
Krangz Ti
@@brobroant6205 oh I know, but seeing as I'm still, um... rocking my GTX 760, all that is moon language to me.
@@Th1nk1n6 Time to invite Linus over and get him to scratch his head for...whatever reason. Just make sure the area around him is padded.
Mom: This baby is stupid, BUT I LOVE IT!
I hate kids
Anyone else had a weird advert come up on TH-cam talking about terrorism and then there’s some fake puppet guy playing poker with cocaine and a cigar and then there’s other fake puppet guys popping out of his cards. Wtf is it, TH-cam is demonetising people’s videos for the slightest things and they let adverts like that show.
@Zafryl You just exposed how stupid you are😂
@@Lewhiskey69 No clue
@@DavoSayco But Goats are good! They are very good at maintaining lawns and goat milk is healthier than cow milk!
I love these really unique components, it's a shame that the economy can't incentivise these kind of weird and wonderful products, I can't imagine ASRock was ever intending to make a profit on this.
Linus tries to use a CPU he dropped and a GPU he painted. In the video 2 components don't work; guess which ones..😂
The USB PORT?
Yes.
It’s the zip ties ofc
Driver issues. That's all.
The case
Is there a Guinness World Record for "CPU threads per litre in a workstation?"?
If there is, I have a feeling threadripper is gonna take it, they already have ITX boards and 32 core / 64 thread CPUs, with 64/128 coming soon
@@MotoCat91 Is there threadripper ITX boards? I thought there wasn't any
Super computer CPUs are easily 240T nowadays. Even though not all threads are created equally, as long as there's a consumer version of such chip come out, such record would become pretty pointless, like, it doesn't indicate performance in any way, just "might boost certain workflow" and that's it. (But then, we would have to question whether GPU should be considered a special type of CPU or not.)
But otherwise, I have a feeling that it's possible to build a "small" form factor quad CPU workstation as long as you hand craft the whole case and thermal solution, but it's won't be very practical to build such system unless the main purpose is to brag about how many cores you jam in the case.
This is Xeon only, so the AMD equivalent would be Epyc. They launched 64 core/128 thread Epyc a couple days before this video dropped...what a coincidence. I'm sure ASRock will have an ITX motherboard for that in the next few months. Not sure if it will be featured on this channel though.
@@SimonWoodburyForget I think generally the case size is limited by thermal capacity most. Sure, you can have very small smart phones, but if you want to stack them up and run them like a computing farm, it's another story. Therefore it's probably best to just have a regular size case if there is enough room.
And about portability, I think it'll become pointless when the form factor requires mandatory external cooling. Other than that, it's really just, how many people would actually need a portable render farm in a box. Therefore, portable small form factor computer with 5GHz i7 is probably a good idea (it's useful, which I guess you already agreed), portable small form factor 112 core quad Xeon, well, not really (even if someone can afford it I don't think it's really worth the trouble as it likely won't improve workflow).
"Cooler bigger than a motherboard"
Clearly you haven't put an NH-D14 on an ITX board yet...
This is why I love being a PC Tech, linus you gave me a damn smile whenever I watch your reviews. ( thumbs up )
Youre beatiful
@@AlaJhen simp
@@reimon5410 the fk does that mean? I don't understand kiddy slang, sorry chido
@@AlaJhen simp
petition for linus to drop his other 8180 so that he can dual socket two broken 8180 platinums
As a developer, who often runs multiple VM's and/or docker containers at a time, and multiple.instances of Visual Studio and Resharper, this would actually make sense. Especially considering that I could bring it with me for on-site client work.
he has a 56 thread 28 core cpu, and a 2080ti founders addition, and hes amazed that the games run smoothly, bruh
The CPU wasn't really made for gaming but I get what you mean by games running smoothly
He was expecting the motherboard to throttle them both
Because threads, and cores to a point, dont equal game smoothness, dimwit. That processor is for like servers and lots of small, complex strings, not ~gaming~. So he obviously could be a bit surprised. Even the highest games only use 3 threads max
@@ninjanippledog725 he has a 2080ti, he could use an i3 thats half dead and still run games perfectly "dimwit" welcome to the now toxic conversation a month late
@@ninjanippledog725 Mate...you're right to an extent, but you're just as dumb as him. No. Doom 2016 for ex supports up to 36 threads.
Most games can take advantage of more than 4 threads now. This is why you don't see clock speeds bottlenecking games nearly as much as they have in the past.
Linus - "I could get used to playing on a $10k processor"
Me - unable to comprehend such a statement when I balk at the cost of an i9-9900k
yeah my cpu was 70$ cuz I can't afford better lol
@@MrDoboz what is your cpu?
@@izakomandaz2895 your mom
@@izakomandaz2895 pentium 4
"This is supposed to be a quiet build"
*Is using a 28-core processor and a 2080Ti in a tiny form factor*
_Logic 100_
don't underestimate noctua
Well it actually is a quiet build once it has all the working components in it.
well.... it worked, didn't it?
Linus: guys i have a brilliant idea! this motherboard we never planned on reviewing is perfect for all those jenky parts i may or may not have broken!
Think it was actually the case they never planned on reviewing...
Linus: *whips out his phat 2080ti*
me: *drools a bit from multiple places*
Linus: "that one may have issues so i went and got my other 2080ti"
So true it's sad
And that too new from the box, with the whole wrap and everything! *sigh*
"Does this remind you of anything?"
A... chess piece? o_0
The Asrock EPC621D4I-2M is designed specifically for short-depth server enclosures. It allows inferencing at the edge in a compact form factor, for very niche uses. Many design trade-offs were required, as noted in the beginning of your review.
"I've got my hands on another RTX 2080ti..." - a statement you will only ever hear Linus say.
You did notice the part where he did the exact same thing with a CPU thats 10 times the cost of that graphics card...?
I mean in like 5 years they'll probably be fairly cheap, because of the constant technological advancements of the modern computer industry, so you might hear it again.
FriskTheFallen here we are.)
not quite as good as Jayz2cents' "I guess I'll just use my OTHER Titan RTX..."
it might be the super EXPENSIVE CPU OR THE BOARD
LINUS : AYEEEEEEEE THE BOARRD IS FINE
LOL
To be honest, today's sponsor is actually helpful. I use it for a few months now, and it does find very cool codes..
Insert joke about Linus being accustomed to working with small form factor hardware.
Just a SMALL joke. Get it.
S M A L L .
Smol
Nudge nudge wink wink
basically, I'm very small
that case diserved a review... so glad this crazy mobo exists 😅😅😅
At 6:20 he says he loves how easy the mini ITX is to build with "JUST SLAP A COUPLE OF DRIVES ON THE BOTTOM".
If that computer is already built that means completely disassembling it to upgrade/replace an m.2 drive. RIDICULOUSLY EASY.
Yeah! IKR!! Like I go in and swap out my M.2's at least twice a week!
Upgrade, sure if you skimp at the time of building. Replacement, probably not. Solid state drives are reallllllllly reliable now.
Most good cases give you access to the back of your mother board. So its just popping off an access panel and boom done. m.2's on the back of the boards is a very good idea imo.
i LOVE things like this. it makes an incredibly powerful workstation in a small form factor, making it even possible for portability.
i dont think the motherboard was intended to be a server at all. i think its meant to be a light workstation.
I'm still waiting for when Nvidia release the LTX 2080 Ti
nice try, Linus!
I'D SELL MY KIDNEY FOR A LINUS THEMED CARD
LTX 2080 Ti comes with drop resistant technology
@@livid4370 heck yeah
LMAOOOOOO
Linus: I can get used to gaming on a $10.000 cpu
Me: wait WHAT?!
Why are you suprised, anyone could get used to a ten dollar cpu
@@pulitha8689 nobody likes a wise ass
@@pulitha8689 In many parts of the world, a dot "." is used to denote thousands, and a comma "," is used to denote decimals. Common in Europe, off the top of my head.
@@pooki-dooki im uk and here its 10,000. If you want ten point zero zero zero its 10.000
@@realszn The US and UK are of the few places in the western world that use a decimal point as the radix operator. Many, if not most, other countries use a comma, like so: 2.350.034,62 instead of 2,350,034.62
Now they just need an Epyc version of that board.
He'll most probably drop it
can't happen. epyc socket is too big. it may fit on an matx board, but itx is just physically impossible. DTX *might* be possible though.
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Pokeblue shit your right I liked it but then unliked to stay at 69
I could see this rig being awesome for a solo game dev. It would compile like a BEAST
I love watching these and being like I remember when he did that project (in reference to the graphics card)
“I could get used to playing on a ten thousand dollar processor”
Littletweeter I died a little inside when he said that...
Same gear 1-2 years later still good, but sooooo much cheaper, also when bought then, you have a bunch of patches which weren't there at start.
I was sure that Linus was going to say:
"Speaking of Dumb. Tunnelbear." :p
And then he drops the mic....
OMG, same it is soooo many times tunnelbear and he likes a joke, but man those sponsors got pay him much to not make that joke
@@nicksparrow009 didn't they shun tunnelbear as a sponsor months ago because of some issue with their product not being up to snuff?
I'm pretty sure they said on a WAN show that they can't stand behind tunnelbear as sponsor any more for some reason.
In any case, LTT hasn't had a video sponsored by tunnelbear in a long time, so your point is invalid!
@@LRM12o8 iirc Tunnelbear was bought out by McAfee, hence why.
@@einzbased Yep, bought out by McAfee, so Linus dropped them. The CEO was super pissed
@@Acre00 I get that tho...
McAfee is more like a virus than an antivirus imo....
9:22 - Anyone else love Linus' beautiful upward inflection on the 'because' and 'mineature' (whatever the hell that is...)?
*potential breaks $1100 graphics card*
eH, nO bIg DeAl
The cooler is not that expensive for sure.
Nanorisk did you even read Doggo’s comment? He clearly said graphics card, not cooler
@@astranger1k616 the problem with the gpu was the the cooler tho
Ryan Hodgkin misread the comment lmao
@@astranger1k616 yeah I'm going blind too lmao
When you have spare 28 core Zeon's and 2080ti's lying around 😂😂
Actually he don't. He just have those two.
@@thusharamaduwantha6279 That's exactly what a spare is....an extra.
It's called business. U kids act so shocked. Got bless u kids when u get a job in a factory and be like wow that machine costs 50 million?
@@ghostrider2214 He says zeon's (plural).
@@thusharamaduwantha6279 Plural=more than one. spare=more than one. Please stop.....you're embarrassing yourself.
Linus: something normal like 10 or 12 or 18 cores
Me sitting at 4 cores: *wut*
1 core u rich bio! Wtf .-.
*8 cores* is this some sort of peasant joke i am to rich to understand?
12 cores from 2011. Don't know what kind of dinosaurs are in this comment section.
@@userPrehistoricman I am afraid that 12 core CPUs didn't exist in 2011. Unless you have multi-CPU motherboard of course.
Ayyy shout out 4 cores all the way 😂
A lot of Linus' problems in this build basically just boil down to "I'm trying to game on a server board".
10:17 It reminds me of a chess piece (Pawn)
Linus, I think youre the one who needs to grow up lol
EDIT: In short
Educated Fan base: We see a chess piece
Linus: Hehehe, sex toy (I’m assuming)
what did he think was it?
@@VinzswellSimon buttplug
Looks like a tulip to me.
I thought it looked like a chess piece as well. Lol
spartan dusk same here soon as he held it up i went its a little chess piece
me thinks of playing games while watching videos
cpu has left the chat
Me: thinks of playing oblivion.
Basic pc operation has left the chat
@@alexiskitt6989 I wanna play a game on low details
My PC has left the chat
my gpu: ah cool.
Me: Plays games on high rez and wants to watch a video also.
PC: How many videos would you like to watch and on what screen?
LOL
Ryzen 5 2600 entered the chat: Yo wanna stream some shit in 2k 60 fps while gaming in ultra and listen music on yt? Sure thing bro
Linus " I didn't think asrock would put a 28 core in there"
Me an intellectual " did you forget about yourself? They thought of you when making it."
10:11 "This is kind of a mature high-brow channel" *banner for undies pops up*
Linus be like: Whaaat? You don't have a Server you can put into your Backpack?
Meanwhile, inside Linus's head:
3:15 Now show the audience
3:19 *Terror inducing flashback*
3:21 Ok, I think they've seen enough
Boo
That's going to be a great Proxmox homelab for someone.
kris Yess!!
Quiet 28 cores and a 2080Ti ? Desktop machinelearning server. Also small enough to take it on a plane as "hand luggage"
Nope.. It’s gonna be some poor idiots worst nightmare.. This is the worst of the worst China has to offer.
Brett Bates Asrock.. Worst motherboard “manufacturer” in the world.. They never engineer anything properly and they use shit components..
You wanna buy a cheaper-than-dirt board? Buy Asrock.. But keep in mind that you’re getting all the downsides of that.
Brett Bates Keep telling yourself that.. It’s fucking garbage and it’s made to squeeze money out of people that know nothing about hardware.. It’s like Seagate.. There’s a fucking reason I primarily see Asrock and Seagate products in my repair business and I can’t help my customers because they opted to buy the cheap crap and lost all their data.
Big ups for that framed Peter Gade shirt! As a Danish kid growing up watching badminton, that guy was my hero for so many years!
My PC is a problem looking for a solution. Let's trade!
you right
Asrock, you madmen! Never change, continue cranking out bat guano crazy mobo designs till doomsday!
Guano will be their next motherboard model name. It will be designed to hang upside down and use wifi for echolocation.
Like asrock makes the only micro atx threadripper board
Just like that asrock x570 aqua. I won't be getting it, but dang it's pretty cool.
AsRock has been hitting it out of the park with the Mobo quality recently.
Nah
this is still my favorite build done on this channel so far