Best of Shoah - Lanzmann befragt polnische Bauern in Grabow

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  • "Shoah ist ein langer, ein intensiver Film. Einige besonders schmerzvolle Interviewparts hat Lanzmann nicht abgebrochen, sondern später in voller Länge montiert." Brandenburgische Landeszentrale für politische Bildung Brandenburg.

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  • @2rooms19
    @2rooms19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "Best of Shoah" is probably not the most appropriate title...

    • @Albertanator
      @Albertanator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have a point!

    • @fresatx
      @fresatx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How about "There is no business like Shoah business"??

    • @marcosffontes
      @marcosffontes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. This title is pure foolish

  • @Plattensammler88
    @Plattensammler88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Ich weise mal auf einen Übersertzungsfehler hin. Hier wird eine Passage einer polnischen Frau mit sinngemäß "Jüdische Frauen waren reich, die Polen MUSSTEN für sie ARBEITEN" übersetzt, die aber im Original übersetzt lauten müsste "Jüdische Frauen waren reich, SIE mussten NICHT arbeiten". Es lohnt sich manchmal zweisprachig erzogen worden zu sein ;-)

    • @bobinobaker
      @bobinobaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Plattensammler
      Ja da hast Du vollkommen Recht , vermeintlich kleine Übersetzunsfehler können schlimme Folgen haben.

  • @liorlijtenberg966
    @liorlijtenberg966 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Danke für den Beitrag. Ein sehr interessanter Ausschnitt des Films.
    Ich empfehle dir, den Titel zu ändern.
    "Best of Shoah" klingt, als ginge es hierbei um Privataufnahmen eines SS-Mannes.

  • @mcnairy
    @mcnairy 14 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Der Titel ist sehr schlecht gewählt!!!

  • @ninjasprawiedliwy9209
    @ninjasprawiedliwy9209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Die Französische Übersetzung ist einfach eine Katastrophe und mit Absicht nicht alles wurde hier übersetzt zb.am Ende über Sozialismus usw. sagt die Frau " ich hab keine Ahnung weil ich mich an sowas nicht interessiere" und nicht " das ist mir egal "

  • @adielstephenson2929
    @adielstephenson2929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is the weekest part of Shoah. Baiting Polish villagers just out of nastiness on Lanzmann's part.

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is not baiting. He is probing.

    • @martingianelli7552
      @martingianelli7552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@semsemeini7905 He could have probed German and Austrian civilians much more.
      Not to speak of Hungarians, Ukrainians, Balts... I know he had no access to those countries then, but he could still have mentioned this. Shoah focuses particularly on Poles, probably because Poland was the only one that allowed him to film (and where Auschwitz, Treblinka and Sobibor are located).
      In the context of history, Shoah makes it seem that Poles were much more guilty than others, Germans and Austrians included!

    • @torstensandvei4973
      @torstensandvei4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@martingianelli7552 you just have to let people believe that Poles were worse. You know that it is not true and that they are wrong. I really think that there was a lot of antisemitism in many Eastern European countries where many Jews lived. But some people were courageous and helped the Jews. I don't think Poles were better or worse. But I might be wrong.

    • @mattk.7759
      @mattk.7759 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@torstensandvei4973 Poles were the Victims. No other country suffered more during WW2

    • @swagkachu3784
      @swagkachu3784 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattk.7759 doesnt change the fact that there was wide spreak antisemitism in the rural areas and lots of collaborators. Stop acting like countries are completely innocent like babys.

  • @bobinobaker
    @bobinobaker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wie bitte ? " Best of Shoah " DenTitel finde ich absolut nicht gelungen in diesem Zusammenhang um es noch milde auszudrücken,das ist keine Hitparade oder Best of Show !! Angebrachter wäre " ganz besondere Auszüge aus Shoah " oder ähnliches....

  • @supachaloopa3611
    @supachaloopa3611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Today is May 29th/Friday, 2020- If anyone went to foreign countries and asked questions regarding their opinions of the people in their neighboring countries, you would still get answers like these. From day one people have always looked down on others. It is the intention and the reason for asking that really matters, not what the actual opinions are. As a caveman once said- "Opinions are like assh*les, everyone has one".

    • @jacquespote8910
      @jacquespote8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ce sont les faits qui comptent le plus.

  • @aronraszkiewicz1942
    @aronraszkiewicz1942 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do the ornamentics on the door in the 00:13 question mean? Ever since I watched that movie, I have been trying to find out any info on that on the internet but never found anything. Anybody Jewish here who could explain this to me? Thank you in advance!

    • @aronraszkiewicz1942
      @aronraszkiewicz1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Gienek Max No patrz, jak zgadłeś, kim jestem. A nie jestem. Znasz odpowiedź, czy napisałeś, by się dowartościować?

    • @aronraszkiewicz1942
      @aronraszkiewicz1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Gienek Max Ale ja się nie gniewam i jestem bardzo spokojny. Poza tym, jakbym wiedział, to bym się przecież nie pytał. Często na forach pod moim imieniem i nazwiskiem odzywają się naziole, którzy każą mi wyp... do Izraela, więc z góry kajam się za nadmierną ostrożność. A imion większość w tym kraju (i nie tylko) jest żydowska, tyle że w formach zaadaptowanych przez rodzime języki z adaptacji z hebrajskiego na łacinę.

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mesusas Jews put on the door.

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Achim Wurst Idiot. Antisemite.

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezuzah

  • @andrewseddon4748
    @andrewseddon4748 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I find Shoah in English anywhere please ?

    • @1945BKS
      @1945BKS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Seddon its a fake movie

    • @erikv5
      @erikv5 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you already find it because im also looking for it

    • @lukebruce5234
      @lukebruce5234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erikv5 its everywhere on youtube

    • @dano3952
      @dano3952 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shoah Four Sisters

  • @cherryvodka9621
    @cherryvodka9621 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'est quoi ces questions,tu sens la bienveillance et le professionnalisme hein.

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where was that camp that was nuked including 20000 prisoners by the Germans end of october 1944 with a small atomic test bomb like Judge Jackson told in Nuremberg 1947?

    • @swagkachu3784
      @swagkachu3784 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it was in antarctica

    • @Schlipperschlopper
      @Schlipperschlopper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no north of Wilamowice@@swagkachu3784

  • @Lechoslaw8546
    @Lechoslaw8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    th-cam.com/video/w_-9BDHppQQ/w-d-xo.html Just watch the same Lanzmann interview with a Polish railman, eyewitness working next door to Sobibór camp through the entire year of its existence. Lanzmann released it a day before he died. Last 1/2 hour the most interesting.

  • @madberlin
    @madberlin 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    sehr sparsame untertitelung, leider, --- aber tolles interview!

  • @gregorybeck5450
    @gregorybeck5450 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    you think this simple village people are rosponsible and could kill this people?.
    the blood is on german hands thats the only truth. and nothing can change it

    • @Larrypint
      @Larrypint 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      gregory beck the SS played the major role but half europe took part of deportations and mass killings. Polish,ukrainian,italian,austrian,croatian,ungarian.. and the question should be why do all these people had such a problem with jewish people and their Religon?

    • @beatricemilleder9649
      @beatricemilleder9649 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There were progroms in Poland long after WWII was over and no Germans present. That is another truth.

    • @inUR2teeth
      @inUR2teeth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There isn't smoke without fire......... What were the accusations against those jewish people that were burnt on those progroms throughout EUROPE during the last 400 years??
      Stop with this "eternal innocence and victimisation" of the jews.... Time to come back to the Truth.

    • @inUR2teeth
      @inUR2teeth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about israel nowadays? Invading the surrounding countries , building the ""greater israel", financing the immigrations of those migrants to destroy europe...
      But yet again, they are innocent, yeah?
      What about those african true Hebrews incarcerated into the prison they build in the desert of Jerricho?
      Soon or later, the Truth will bite you all back.......

    • @beatricemilleder9649
      @beatricemilleder9649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that justifies mass murder? OMg

  • @Lea-om5en
    @Lea-om5en ปีที่แล้ว

    Und warum bitte reden die französisch? Wenn es angeblich Polen sind?

  • @ademx3823
    @ademx3823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ratio

  • @CapitanoGUC-gf6el
    @CapitanoGUC-gf6el 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    bist du gegen Demokratie ? :-o

  • @cmr5996
    @cmr5996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm Polish and I have no idea why would anyone be upset about these interviews, I see nothing untruthful nor controversial here. It's just like the lady at the end says, the lives of ordinary people improved enormously after WW2 compared to pre WW2 period. The poor basically associate the period when there were still Jews in Poland with poverty. So if you ask them if they miss the jews, in the mind of simple person it's like asking if you miss poverty, what is so upsetting about this? I think what you are all missing is that majority of people in Poland were happy with the new socialist government, this Polish anti-communist sentiment began much later, meanwhile modern Polish propaganda claims Poles always opposed soviet influence and idolized pre-WW2 Poland, far from truth, the poverty was so big that hunger was a real issue for many

    • @marcosffontes
      @marcosffontes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What you say do much sense. My grandmother ALWAYS remenber as the life of grandsylibes is very easy today . Never jews lived in outback of Brazil and the lives of ordinary people improved enormously. The state of Parana there are imigrants of the Galicia. They leaved your country because there was very poor people and hungry was actual.

  • @patrickdalmoro4003
    @patrickdalmoro4003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aujourd’hui rien n’a changé malheureusement dans ces pays de merde🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @dieselmcmlxxx
    @dieselmcmlxxx 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wyzysk trwa do chwili obecnej, włącznie z rozbiorem Polski przez rosje i niemcy, jak i przygotowaniem Polski pod judeopolonie.

  • @Zolzik1983
    @Zolzik1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    German in Konzentrationslager don't need translators, every document, every order is written i Greman. 27.01.2023 78th anniversary of freeing Das Konzentrationslager Auschwitz.

  • @jacquespote8910
    @jacquespote8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    En 1946 il y a eu un pogrom en Pologne à la suite d'un mensonge sur la responsabilité d'un juif dans une affaire. En 1946 ! Les polonais ont toujours été extrêmement anti sémites. Aujourd'hui je ne sait pas si cela a évolué. La bêtise a la vie dure.

    • @Lechoslaw8546
      @Lechoslaw8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STOP lying, STOP defamation of Poles. The event you are referring to was perpetrated and orchestrated by secret police, the infamous NKVD.

    • @jacquespote8910
      @jacquespote8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lechoslaw8546 pogrom kielce 1946

    • @Lechoslaw8546
      @Lechoslaw8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacquespote8910 This is what I said. Kielce "pogrom" was a all-out provocation made by the Moscow NKVD with collaboration of its local branches inside occupied socialist Poland. As a result nine innocent Poles were sentenced to death and killed to shut their mouth. If you speak French, then watch same Lanzmann interview with a railman from Sobibór, who worked next door to the camp, it'll give you a balanced view of Poles and Jews during ww2.--- th-cam.com/video/w_-9BDHppQQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @jacquespote8910
      @jacquespote8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lechoslaw8546 Vous ne voulez pas admettre la vérité alors vous parlez de complotisme. C'est classique. th-cam.com/video/lkRDAbcwJoI/w-d-xo.html

    • @Alaschafad
      @Alaschafad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacquespote8910 How could they have "always" been extremely Antisemitismus, when the reason there were so many jews in Poland was, they were fleeing antisemitism and persecution in the rest of of europe? There definitely was antisemitism, but before the war Poles and jews were living peacefully together, despite problems. During the war antisemitism was promoted by the germans with some success amongst the peasants while they were murdering the polish intelligentsia.