Marshall DSL40CR Master Volume and Rear Panel Function
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode I go over how I set up the master volumes on the Marshall DSL40CR as well as the features found on the rear panel.
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I have this same amp and I love it. No problems so far. It's a beast.
Very simple explanation, when you have your master volume on green your master volume 1 is for both channels when it's red your master volume 2 is now your master volume for both channels aslo which your master volume 1 will have no effect until you return it to green allowing you to have a volume boost if you set master volume 2 higher than master volume 1. That simple and this is real handy with 6 button control switch.
So, this is my first ever Marshall Amp. When I purchased it, I was on a very limited budget and the price point for this Amp was right on point.
Yes, it (technically) has four channels but there's a trick to getting this to work properly.
1. You have to ditch the 2-button footswitch that comes with the amp and either get the PEDL-91016 (which is next to impossible to find!) or get a budget MIDI controller. I use the TECH-21 MIDI Mongoose with the Rocktron 7-Pin MIDI Cable.
2. Tweak the MASTER Volumes in such a manner that you can control all (4) channel levels with relative ease.
The "Classic Gain" Channel RED is much louder than the GREEN. So I did this:
** Classic Gain Channel GREEN - Assign this to MASTER 1
** Classic Cannel RED - Assign this to MASTER 2
Tweak this channels' volumes FIRST. Get both the GREEN (MASTER 1) and RED (MASTER 2) the same volume
The "Ultra Gain" Channel GREEN and RED are just about the same Volume.
**Assign BOTH GREEN and RED to MASTER 1
Now that the "Classic Gain" is tweaked - and both GREEN and RED on the "Ultra Gain" Channel are assigned...
Use MASTER 1 and MASTER 2 to adjust volume levels on the "Classic Gain" channels.
Use the Channel Volume on the "Ultra Gain" channel to adjust volume levels for both GREEN and RED here.
It's not 100% Perfect, but I find that the Amp is very much gig'able with this configuration.
Give it a shot!!!
sweetwater has the 6button switch 150.00
Are u saying your running all 4 channels at once and just blending the 2 masters? Does this have a simular advantage as jumping a 4 imput plexi,
friend, you helped me a lot, I didn't know how to lower the volume of the crunch but now I do
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The 6 button footswitch from marshall works on this amp. Lets you go through all 4 gain modes plus all the switching for masters and fx loop. Great amp for sure! I have the cream vintage it has made in UK vintage 30 speaker from factory. The other black standard version i saw has smaller magnet V type speaker. And others have the cheap 70/80 speaker. Uug
I've not bought mine yet, but this is very, very useful info, which has helped me to decide (to pull the trigger on it). Thank you for posting Andy. Greetings from Down Under.
Cheers m8! Best of luck!💥🔥
I love this amp. I have one and it doesn’t let me down.
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I'm on my second 402, first one sounded like a windy day with everything on 0 and nothing plugged in. Thanks for this info, I'm struggling to read the supplied documentation because the writing is just way too small.
Good luck!!
For all you fire breathing metal monsters out there in TH-cam land.....you will need a tube screamer and maybe a speaker mod of some V30s thrown in to achieve those more modern metal tones my metal brothers!!!
Don't get frustrated with this video, it's an amazing video that takes you through the functions of the master volumes....
So, dont expect to run straight into your local guitar center, plug into this amp, and melt faces off.
Well, you can, but, again you have to know your equipment......
True true. I’d like to hear this amp with a tube screamer. Mmmm.
i'm still confused but thanks for the effort
milkandmeat lolol I know. 5 minutes hands on and you go “ahhhh I get it”. It’s a great feature.
I cant figure out how to make the foot switch work
@@zacharybruner765 what foot switch? Did u figure it out?
@@alwaysandy_ yea the fx loop switch i was putting it in the wrong jack. I played Acoustic for 8 years im new to electric and amps lol
@@zacharybruner765 lol that’s great dude! Even experienced folks do silly things. Cheers!
i have 2 of these. I love them. I dime the Masters and use the channel volumes and gain to control the volume. I also use the volume and gain on the pedals to drive the volume.
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Just ordered this amp so thanks for the tutorial!!!
Yayyy! You’ll love it!
Thanks! I understand the masters now. Not really that spectacular but I'm glad I know how to use it. Probably need the MIDI pedal.
Like a lot of things right?!😂 I guess knowing is half the battle.
@@alwaysandy_ True. Thanks for pointing out that voice two on channel one is way louder. I would have worried my amp was defective had I did not know it was intentional. Thanks!
I just upgraded from the DSL20cr to the DSL40cr. I am extremely pleased in all the upgrades, especially the better speaker and larger cabinet make a HUGE difference in sound. And I'm so happy for the master volume. To my knowledge, ONE REVIEWER says that he likes to dime the Master Volume, but he was also playing on stage at full volume circumstances. I've been wrestling with my DSL 20cr for a year due to the fact that it doesn't have a master volume. It is a constant problem. I disagree with that one reviewer, I find the Master Volume to work perfectly and fixes most all the headaches I had with my DSL20cr. This DSL40cr sounds way better with more low mids than my DSL20cr and sounds better and fuller at low volume. I've been through a lot of amps and a lot of Marshall amps but none of them sounded that great, they all have fallen way short. This one is it. I finally found it. This amp sounds absolutely amazing and full and warm and lush like a Marshall is supposed to sound. This is not my most expensive amp It's actually my cheapest amp that I use just to kick around but it's a keeper! It sounds absolutely..... Marshall.
I have the first one, dsl40c mine has the vintage grill, I changed the limiting 70/80 speaker to a G12M creamback 65w and Boom instant rock machine although I was trying to figure out how to run it through the PA system there's no line out on the first incarnation "C" model guessing have to mic it. Or maybe buy an attenuater with a line out.
Yea I dunno what ur options are for a line out when there isn’t one. Good luck! Cheers!
Andy Harper I found the easiest simple option shure 57
This is my go to get inspired love this video and amp Andy. The cord is ready for the arena rock length, for sure. I got this amp after this review and the one on bias. Defiantely a go to amp. I dig this master volume and using a MIDI, you use, etc... This amp is PURE ROCK!!!
PURE ROCK! Yea!!!! Enjoy it! Rock ur face! 🤘🤘🤘
super versatile basically a master volume for each "channel", i have the blackstar ht blub 40 mkll, two channels with two voices each channel, but only one general master volume, i don´t now if the master volume is before or after the power tubes.
I tested with the master volumes at halfway and pushing the gains up on the channels and I found it there was a much more bass and tighter bottom end with the masters all the way up. For me the sound is much better with the Masters all the way up
everyone's experience is their own, I'm glad you found your tone! 🤘
@@alwaysandy_ thanks Andy but can you try it again and check it out. Crank Master's all the way up with a Les Paul guitar on the bridge pickup treble up and it'll low E chord. Then turn the Masters to 12 and crank your gain channels volumes up. It was really obvious that there was more bottom-end with the Masters all the way up for my DSL 40 CR.
Damnnnn... I just took my personal Guitar to guitar Center yesterday to test this amp to see how it would really sound for me and I really hated the overdrive and was thinking to myself this should be heavy asf on overdrive 2 but I might not have demo it right...thanks so much for this video!
It’s goes to 11. But not a modern metal 11 so I’d keep that in mind. But pretty heavy.
A tube scream and a speaker mod with some V30's in this amp make a huge difference.
You can achieve some high gain tones out of this amp.
Just even a tube screamer would make a huge difference.
6 buttton fs pedal is great for this stuff.
Hi, my name is Francesco, I wanted to know is the AUDIO IN section also used to put an mp3 player to play with the backing tracks? If so, how do the backing tracks and guitar feel together? once I had another Marshall with the AUDIO IN section but with the bases the sound of the guitar was not the same, it was uglier and fake, I don't know why. Hi, I hope you can help me, I need it for playing on the street.
I’ve never attempted to play music thru a guitar amp whole play a guitar as well. I assume that will sound bad.
I just bought a used 40CR that came with the 6 button. It makes it effectively a 4 channel amp. I sold a Mesa Boogie to get this for a different tone. I like the Marshall but I will be getting another Mesa to add back to my amp mix. For the DSL40cr, spend the extra money on the 6 button FS. It doubles the versatility.
Nice! First comment from a 6 button user. I have another video about how this is really a 4 ch amp. I use the midi switching. Cheers!💥
Great video dude. Props to you. Does this amp can get good sounds in the edge of breakup at low volumes?
Sure does. See here prob for samples.
th-cam.com/video/jFT9IFN1FS8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this video I just bought one of these amps. Do you have any tips on setting to get that hair metal tone in the setting and any suggestions. For pedals with this?
I did a video on the higher gain tones. Peep it here: th-cam.com/video/emXkSuzi68Y/w-d-xo.html
What midi pedal is it that you use :) ? Or would the Marshall PEDL-91016 Footswitch work just as well? Thank you for a great video. That relly helped with the master volume.
It’s a Boss ES5. Details in this vid I made and I have others on the pedal switcher specifically. 💥🤘 th-cam.com/video/jFT9IFN1FS8/w-d-xo.html
@@alwaysandy_ ah cool, thank you. Running over to that video right now 🤘🎸🤘
With the weight of the amp, and the length of the top panel, Marshall should have reinforced the handle area, or something. My amp bows up in the center when you pick it up by the handle. 4 small screws in the top of the chassis doesn’t cut it. Maybe 6 or 8 through the chassis bolts would help make it more rigid, or cause the chassis to bend, which would even be a bigger problem. A straightedge on the top of my amp side to side rocks like a seesaw. Could be a problem later on, as this amp sounds great to me, and I plan on keeping it.
really? that's crazy! sounds like a good mod opportunity lol. since covid i've not gigged once so really this amp hasn't even been broken in! just studio stuff.
Get the 6 button footswitch. It really opens this amp up.
Nice !! You’re the first to comment they actually have that switch.
Just came here to see how the FX Loop inputs work, what I heard from this video was 'Everyone already knows how an FX Loop Works'
What do you wanna know? I feel like it’s pretty well covered on TH-cam. FX loop out to FX unit in >>> FX unit out to FX loop in. Done. ?
Late to the party , but basically run od/compressors into front of amp, wet stuff like delay and reverb (amp has some but not like fender surf territory) in the loop .. modulation sounds good both ways depends on the thing .. nice thing about pedal switch for loop , is you can have a bunch of pedals on , and turn them all on and off at once without having to tap dance
Where do you plug headphones in this amp?
Emulated Out jack. It’s a bad idea. 😂
Have been trying to go direct to our PA with this amp through the emulated out, but it's so tricky! Any best practices!?
Ooooo trial and error til you find a sound that works. I don’t fancy direct outs much so I can’t say really. Good luck!
I am interested. Are you doing a switch in channels or modes? What type of foot controller are you using? Thank you. What brand / model I am not a midi person but I am interested.
I use a boss loop switcher. See my video on it: th-cam.com/video/llHBMTwxg10/w-d-xo.html
Do you think it’s worth getting the 5 watt version for home usage? Or does the overdriven 40 sound great at low volume?
Ohh the gain tones etc are stellar at low volumes. I think the gain is just as good at the 20-watt setting too. 5w nah, waste of money if the DSL 40 is an option.
@@alwaysandy_ Thank you so much! 40 it is then
@@joelechols879 you can hear more of mine here:
th-cam.com/video/jFT9IFN1FS8/w-d-xo.html
@@joelechols879 I've the same dilemma, don't need to go as low as bedroom levels as I've an extension room at the end of my house with a road at that side so I can afford to go a bit louder. So, Joel, did you get the 40 and if so, what do you think?
@@dociledeer3818 It's sitting right next to me now haha. I love it in my small-room guitar teaching studio. Sounds fantastic at "loud bedroom" levels and fine at bedroom levels. To my ears, the "low power" 20W mode doesn't sound as satisfying as the high power 40W mode with the master turned down more, so I just leave it on high power. Only one complaint about the amp: when switching channels with the foot switch, there's a little probably 10 microsecond delay (silence) in between. Marshall knows of the issue common on this model. I've been meaning to send mine in for them to fix. Until it's fixed, it would be annoying to use live for songs that switch between clean and dirty. Otherwise, it's truly incredible. Clean tone is nothing to write home about, but that's to be expected.
Is it possible to do a stereo setup with this amp? Plug a 4-12 cab into one of the 16 ohm inputs and keep the combo plugged into its speaker?
Well if you hook up multiple cabinets you’re just adding more mono to you overall sound. To get true stereo you’d need two amps, or one with a stereo effects loop and a stereo reverb or delay pedal (or similar).
Andy's right it wouldn't be stereo, but you can hook up an external cab and the internal speaker. The stock speaker is 16ohm, so if your cab is 16 ohm, then plug both of them into the 2 8 ohm outputs (2 x 16 ohm in parallel = 8 ohm load). Normally the internal is in the 16 ohm output. The 2 8 ohm outputs are not 8 Ohms each, but rather a single 8 ohm or a total 8 ohm load across the 2.
I have this DSL40CR as well and also have a 1972 Marshall 1982B 412 cab that is 16 ohms. I run this amp live with the 412 cab and always plug it into the input next to the one the speaker one is already plugged into.
So was wondering if that’s okay or what is the correct ohm input I should plug that 412 into. I’m new to and still learning about the ohms stuff, thanks!
This might apply to other amps and pedals, but when I plugged an OCD pedal, using the clean channel, with the gain low and the master volume high, I got nothing. Now when I put the gain up half way, and lowered the Master volume, then OCD roared. So the DSL40 has tons of potential with drive pedals, but you have to set it up right.
that's interesting! good thing you experimented like a boss. well done! and thanks for sharing!! cheers!!
So how did you find the emulated out for recording?
They’re usually on the rear panel for amps that have them.
@@alwaysandy_ Hi Andy! Did you like the sound of the emulate out? I 've read reviews that are contradictory. Anyway I ordered a DSL40 so I will find out soon enough :)
@@constantinospatsiantas3012 congrats! And no I’ve never liked any emulated output I’ve heard on a combo amp.
@@alwaysandy_ Thank you!
On my DSL40CR The factory footswitch has a slight delay when switching from clean to distortion. Is your amp the same way? If so will using the midi switcher fix this or is that just a flaw of the amp?
Here’s how mine switches: th-cam.com/users/shortsVmeHeKcI_88?feature=share
I’ve never noticed much delay with midi switching.
@@alwaysandy_ thanks for the response. It’s not real noticeable just slightly delayed compared to pedals.
what type of cabinet can be applicable to this amp sir ? thanks
possible the 4x12'' 16homs cabinet on this ?
Yes you can push 16ohms. There’s several options. If you search “DSL40CR reap panel” you can see all of the options. 🤘💥
@@alwaysandy_ thanks !
Do you know if there is any way we can control this amp with a DAW via MIDI?
I don’t know specifically but I’d say yes. If you can sent midi out and thru a midi cable. Prob need something like iConnect midi routers.
Is the gain good at low volume? I am considering this amp, but i mostly play at home, so i want the good tube sound but not high volume😅
Yea. Low volume all day.
@@alwaysandy_ can you get the famous "brown tone" at not disturbing the rest of the house levels? And does it pair nively with a tube screamer?
@@Namesakes.unit-x-10sq10 brown tone is subjective. Just watch all of my DSL vids you’ll hear all the hi gain tones all at low volumes. 👍
@@alwaysandy_ okay, thanks! 🙂
Great explication, but what about the sound??????? It was the must important..................
I have other videos with lots and lots of the sounds of this amp. Just. Look 👀! Cheers!
Whoa whoa whoa... hold the phone... are you trying to tell me that I can just hook up a set of studio headphones into the Emulated Out and chug on this bad boy without driving my neighbors to the brink of complete insanity?! 🤯🤔
John Doe true. Put the amp in standby and have at it! 🤘
@@alwaysandy_ Oh what a glorious day! This just made my whole week! You, good sir, have just earned yourself a loyal new fan/subscriber. Huzzah!🤘🤘🤘
I just tried this. The emulated out was the worse sound I've ever heard an amp make
@@Fnnggjji ho, this was the one feature that could have me buy this amp, is it that bad? I just want to plug my headphones in. thanks
does the black star midi footswitch work with this amp
I would assume yes. If you try it, let us know how it works. Cheers!
when I receive the amp I will let you know for sure.
Can you plug headphones into this amp?
Yes
@@alwaysandy_ I plugged my headphones in mine today and it screamed at me I must’ve plugged it into the wrong port.
I’m hoping you can tell me which port to plug in to 😁
@@clifforddang5947 I assume it’s the one marked simulated output. It might suck. Usually they suck.
@@alwaysandy_ Thanks sir !
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Hi .. is it too loud for home usage ?
It sounds good at low volume once dialed in. That being said I just ordered a reactive load attenuator. Ping me in a month and I'll let you know if it's worth the extra cash
It can be quiet but it can also be very very loud! It sounds great quiet and amazing on loud volumes
Agreed. This amp sounds great at any usable volume.
Can always use an attenuator also
Get the master volume to 7 or 8 and turn the channel volume down to the point the amp isn't too loud.
Not really clear how that all works, too many front panel button pushes and foot clicks to get what's really going on. Seems like you really can't do it all with the 2-button switch.
No, you cannot with the two button switch. See my Boss ES-5 video or the DSL40 is a 4-ch amp video.
@Andy Harper You can set Channel One to green master and Channel Two to red master and the 2 button switch will be able to switch back and forth between the 2 master volumes as it switches from Channel One to ChannelTwo- you just won't be able to switch between green and red on individual channels just using the 2 button footswitch. It seems like it would work that way and needed to be clarified in case GuitarGathering didn't understand that. Is that accurate, Andy?
@@gbferrell true you can set the master volumes per channel and when you switch via two button they change as well. But that’s all, no further control. Correct the 2 button doesn’t do it all.
@@alwaysandy_ Thanks for confirming Andy.
They don't make them like they made my 79 Marshall master vol mk 2 2x12 50w combos, who on earth especially a gigging guitarist would want to sod around like this ! Best leave the modern trash alone, it's just bread and butter money for the manufacturers, you can thank me later.
Ok.
He's like a school teacher who nobody knows what the fuck he is talking about! He runs through it knowledgable but I am confused. Oh, I got 2 lemons before I got a great one hopefully! 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞Anyway he seems like he knows his stuff, but I don't understand him. I be dumb on stuff...you gotta slow down and learn how to explain better....not so fast!
What do you wanna know?
@@alwaysandy_ I am good. Didn't mean to be rude. I got another video that straightened me out. No harm intended..
Thanks for sharing information to all...I can be like Blackmore sometimes. 🤭
Place your app across the street😅lol 😅
Is there a way to control the volume from a backing track separately from the volume of the guitar?
I connected my lapto to the amp so i could play along with a backing track, but as i raised the volume on the track the volume for the guitar also went up. Making it super loud
I used a audio 3.5 male to male cable.
Thanks
Crazy! Sorry I have no idea on that one.
You'd have to use the laptop volume control , I set the amp a bit higher than I need so I could blend in and over a back track .. if your laptop isn't loud enough, you could try something like peace / apo equalizer and turn the preamp up more on the laptop , should be able to get a loud signal without distorting that can level with the guitar on full
@@jasonthompson2059 I'll give it a try