@@wimtorreborre729 - Dirty Skunks are responsible for the bands and booking, while logistics side of organisation is dealt by the same crew that is organising Punk Rock Holiday on the same location.
My experience: I bought 4 tickets for MetalDays 2020 edition. 3 years went by and still haven't received a refund. I understand that it takes time to refund but the unbelievable part is that in 2 months there is a new edition of the festival and somehow they are still holding my 800€+. One festival edition was also last year (2022). Last time I received email notification about refunds was probably more than 1 year ago. If their interest would be in refunding then they would keep us informed. So it looks like they just stole the money and created new festival (probably even opened new company to hide debt). They clearly don't give a shit about fans. Wrote many mails but they just don't give a damn. They offered me a promotion code instead but I do not want to be a part of this festival and most importantly I do not want to support greedy and scamming organisators. 800€ is not a small amount otherwise it wouldn't be such a big problem for me. And after all of this I see them (MetalDays) arguing with people in comments here and on Facebook. You can't be more low than that. They (Boban) should be ashamed of themselves. Taking fans money and spitting in their face when it's time to refund. Can't even believe that this is possible but I believe in karma and I believe one day they will taste it - universe always makes things right at the end. Peace.
Great Video Man! I'm a 7 years veteran of MetalDays and also worked there as a volunteer for a while, so I really knew the drama surrounding Boban and the Refunds and also his very ridicolous behaviors both in the private and public FB Groups, but thanx to this video I found out how low he can go. I will share this vid around, hope it helps make some noise and help the people who still didn't get the refund. Oh and also good job shouting out the Tolminator fest, this festival really need succeed! If you are gonna be there, beer's on me!!
Haha there is not much that makes my heart beat faster than some good old scene beef. With YT (pun intended) creators being overly protective about what they say out of fear of beeing cancelled, it really is a breath of fresh air to see a smaller channel just doing what is right and calling out the bullshit. Glad to see your channel is doing well (for now lol)! All the best from Germany.
@@wyattsmetalOi Oi Oi from Orange County California.. like your real approach to, well Truth and Journalism actually,, my past was .. Production assistant for the Ink N Iron festival in Long Beach CA 🇺🇸.. Tattoo festival, Car Show with Band's.. 13 years of it.. honestly you've not asked for much beyond basic Human rights and treatment, we knew nothing, stared knowing nothing, figured it out,, my goal was treating folks well,, seeing how it actually goes . It's pure greed.. your voicing against.. Keep at it Dude.. your channel is awesome true DIY.. Our independent Show, got big enough to piss off the Biggie COs.. telling bands, if you play, our show, you can't play etc venue.. we had to pay up to a level, that could do, play, what they want.. Iggy Pop, Killswitch etc and more.. We had Bands tells us,, in person about the Blackball threats.. later Brother.. never stop
Tolminator will be a completely different story. Organizers are Dirty Skunks team (20+ years of organizing metal/punk/rock concerts in Slovenia and great people), tickets and prices are as normal as it can be in current environment, it will look a lot like Punk Rock Holidays which, from an organization stand point, is A LOT better and people friendly than MetalDays ever was. Can't wait
The whole online copyright claim/strike crap is out of hand. The concept of fair use is thrown out the windows and anyone can wrongly strike and/or take down anything on just accusations and nothing based on actual law or precident. But they know TH-camrs don't have legal teams on their payroll and it would not be financially viable to lawyer up for every false claim.
Copyright laws in general are out of hand, tbh. The situation with fair use on TH-cam is just a real life reducto ad absurdum argument playing out in front of everyone.
In 2020 i bought 5 tickets to Brutal Assault for me, my wife, my father and mother and someone who has a drivings license and doesnt drink (smart right) :D For my family that would be their first metal festival EVER! And i was proud to show them why i love BA and went there for 6 years. Then Pandemic hit. Ok i still got money, thought not 2020 but we will go to 2021. Then my wife lost here job because of that pandemic and i had no choice to ask for refunds as much as i didnt wanted to. And you know what? In 2 weeks, when i was ir grocery store to see if i can afford toilet paper of potatos, i got a message that i got my refund. And THATS why in 2024 (not this year because we still have to get back on our feets) i will take my family to BA! They deserve all my money and love!
During the pandemic Boban was also constantly arguing with People in a group called something like "Metaldays snowflakes paradise". That's the reason why my friends and I started calling him Boban Butthurt
@@preuner19 well they did it, people on the facebook page snowflakes paradise said you were not allowed to bring your own drink on near the lake, have to buy 5€ union and some people were even charged 4€ for water supposed to be free . And a lot of other shit x) now it's cancelled because all the camp ground is flooded and all road closed.
I understand the beef you guys have with Metal days, I get it and condone it, but it really busts my balls when someone talks shit about my city, especially not ever being here. Yes, I'm from Velenje (you didn't pronounce it that bad at all, cheers!) ... and for you to compare it to Isengard, just to suit your agenda, is dead wrong, childish at least. Let me draw a better picture for all metal heads that were possibly reppeled by the presentation. Velenje is simply beautiful. One of the greenest cities in Slovenia and voted the most beautiful city in Slovenia back-to-back for a few years a row now. It goes hand in hand with modern and green, and we're kinda very proud of it. Yes, if you look to the west (which you probably won't much, as all the fun is east oriented) there is a power plant in the neighboring town of Šoštanj. Your pictures are very outdated, due to extensive efforts to minimize pollution, high tech air cleaning devices were installed, so what you see is mostly just steam being released from heating turbines, and only one of those chimneys is still operational. Trust me, it's not that bad. On the other hand ... it seems a bit funny to me that metal heads are that much bothered with some industrial scenery. So really, don't worry about that, you have plenty of parks, lake, castles, bars, good music and fun stuff to keep you busy. Welcome to Velenje.
I appreciate this comment! And admittedly I haven't been to Velenje so I don't know personally. I have looked it up and some people have told me that the smell from the plant can still be pretty bad depending on the wind. Is that true?
@wyattsmetal There are occasions with certain wind direction and air pressure, when you can smell something, but it's not the smoke, it's fresh coal stored outside, for the plant ... locals kinda got used to it, but it could be interesting experience for a newcomer. Nothing too awful tho. I'm sure there will always be armpit nearby that smells much worse 😆
We have been going to Metaldays for years and it was always clear that Boban is sort off a dweeb. After complains about beer prices and overall prices going up each year he changed the name off the fbook forum into "Snowflakes Paradise", a few people laughed about it but after a few days most where wondering if the joke wasn't past it's prime... it's still called that way! The next year T-shirt where being sold with the print "Boban Milunović melting Snowflakes since 1971", I don't believe many where sold... But, we also loved the fest. Nice location, the village is relaxed and supermarkets are really near, the way they treated the area was really inspirational and it's good to have a few non-meat options. So, we're going to Tolminator, hopefully it will be the best of both worlds!
To be fair, the “smoke” from a nuclear power plant is just steam, and does not include any chemicals. I get that it doesnt have the same “green” appearance, but hosting the festival there is the same as hosting it next to a windmill or solar cell farm, at least in terms of climate impact. But great video:)
The only thing that could've made this video better was to emphasize the average amount of money each customer was out and some information on attendance to get an idea of how much money this man potentially defrauded.
Played at MetalCamp (2009 2nd stage, 2011 2nd stage and 2012 Main Stage) and worked all the years after that as press and I can say; yes, the dude that owns this is a G.S. (go figure it out) Calls the attendees "snowflakes", got more stringent on what you can and cannot bring onto the campsite (normally you could bring your own food and drinks onto it - CAMPSITE ONLY!), made everything triple as expensive as it was, he did not go into any criticism at all, but mostly just ridiculed the person making the valid critique. Also Velenje is total bullshit for the festival; people will 100% get robbed there and it will smell like sulphur. Tolminator is organized by DirtySkunks and the guys from PunkRock Holidays; Dirty Skuns were responsible for the 2nd stage bands for some years and since then this stage was mostly filled for every band. Now to the scammy part: Covid hit, tickets were already sold and the festival was then cancelled - people did not get their refunds or anything an mostly got ridiculed. He whined how he doesn't have money but meanwhile building a "holistic health center" in Zanzibar. The festival in Velenje will be smaller btw. Also; he wanted to make the festival fully vegan (no meat allowed anywhere on the festival grounds including campsite etc..) The tickets went from 120€ to 290€(!!!) and they say:"oh it includes warm showers etc.." only thing is they did not change the infrastructure and the warm water ran out around 8-9 AM and after that only cold showers were available. He is probably the most hated guy in Slovenija and no one has the balls to say something since they want to play on MetalDays, but since this festival is going to crash and burn in Velenje, more people come out of the woodwork. Fuck this guy and this festival. I will never support it again. Please just go to Tolminator or some other festival.
I was going to metaldays 2021 and i never received tickets or the shirt I ordered with it i was planning on trying to get in contact with them about a refund but seeing so much of this BS that they’re pulling i feel like its just wasted effort and not worth it anymore.
Because if you pay attention, MD page looks like a scam page. Otherwise Bo would greet the fans every year, but since he's scarred to get beaten... well...
I did buy a ticket for the 2021 edition that got cancelled, and then asked to book my ticket to the 2022 version, no issue whatsoever. I haven't checked with other visitors, but last year's edition was far from ideal, especially with the roadworks that basically cut the valley in half. From what I have seen from the organisation of Tolminator however, it seems that they are really pushing to work with the local municipality, they get things done and I know some of the guys from Dirty Skunks, the organisers personally from when I played at Metaldays 2018 with my band. I look forward to see some of the magic back, since that was what I liked about Metaldays in the beginning, the intimate setting. This year I'm playing at Tolminator with my current band, so I'm looking forward to go back to Tolmin 🤘
I was curious about why MetalDays moved elsewhere and found a Facebook post where they explained that the festival location in Tolmin will be cut in half by a big road which is under construction. Now I am a bit confused in regards to how Tolminator festival managed to work around this problem.
I heard this road construction stuff was actually bullshit from Metal Days, which had to move from Tolmin for other reasons they wouldn't share. I have no idea if this is true. I just hope they won't butcher the beautiful Soca Valley. Better way to check is to go to Tolminator. Also, after watching this video : fuck you Metal Days and good luck Wyatt.
Tolminator is like Punk Rock Holidays at the same place - the only use the Second Stage in the Forest, so the big Stage is missing because of the new Road. So there is truth at both sides - if you want to continue with acts played the last Years at Metaldays it is not possible because you need more Visitors to pay them.
It was a great festival, but the amount of shenanigans I've seen both while there and in the interim between festivals does not have me surprised at this outcome...
wow that is really disappointing. just the other day when my summer festival season started I was talking to my sister about "that cool festival in slovenia" and planned to go there next year. guess not...
@@MrOzzblizzard sounds good but I heard there were financial difficulties to the point where wasn't sure if it'll take place... but looks like it's gonna happen^^ hopefully I can go next year, this july I'm busy unfortunately
Im honestly not familiar with that whole situation since it was before my time. If it was going on right now then I probably would, but it's long passed now. The Metaldays situation is still going on and I take issue with fans being screwed over and silenced so I felt the need for this video.
Got the deets OP? Only thing I know of was Full Terror Assault getting screwed out of a vendor booth. That's because I briefly chatted with out of the guys.
@@ChunkSchuldinga He fleeced a bunch of bands on the MMF bill. He was also a contributing promoter for other metal festivals and screwed over bands for those as well. Either bouncing checks or canceling their contracts without standing. All of this happened in 2004 during the summer tours. I don't remember any resolution ever happening. It killed MMF and I don't believe Koshick has been actively involved with metal promotion since that summer... it was band after band coming out of the woodworks saying they got screwed by him that summer.
Is this where we tell him that Graspop Metal Meeting is right next to the Belgian Nuclear Research facility (NIRAS) which includes storage of highly radio-active fissure material? 😀
A few comments on the new venue - I was checking the place available for camping in Velenje and compared it to Tolmin and there's no way, there's more place at the new venue and next to 0 of shade. The water in the lake simply stinks. While it is true, that it is better than it was, the fact remains that the lakes were used for dumping off the coal ash from the thermal power plant for several decades, so there really is no comparison. And to use all the views in the promo, not to show that said plant and offering extra activities that spread in the area of around 50km or more, as they are on site (like Tolmin had), is lame at best.
Thanks for exposing Boban for what he is. Keep up the good fight! But I guess he sudoku-ed himself location wise, so it's kinda a win win for metal fans and the festival in Tolmin. I give his trash festival max 3 years.
Ah, it is not war..... but this is typical balkans rip off. So many "CEO managers" in Slovenia robbed and destroyed companies...most of them have money in tax havens. So, Boban is not the only one as he has learned from the best CEOs managers in Slovenia.
It will be intetesting to see how Metaldays goes. I went to Metaldays 2022 and I had fun but it wasnt the same as previous years. Guards going around the campsite asking people to basically shut up as we werent allowed to make noise after midnight etc. The pricing at the festival was ridicolous, they charged drinks depending on what bouse was used and didnt tell beforehand so you could get charged a normal amount or like 56€ for a drink. I bought my ticket for Metaldays 2023 in hope that it would be the same feeling as before the pandemic again, but I doubt due to missing the river and that the festival is tehing to expand and I'm tired of big festivals. Will be interesting to see how Tolminator works if they will be restricted by all the restrictions that was announced placed by the muncipality.
Good video and you're 95% correct in all of your legal analysis. Fuck that guy and fuck spurious copyright strikes in general. However, since you did such a good job of these things, as someone who is educated and has taught music copyright laws, I do want to take the time to explain why the Gojira cover claim is actually valid. You're right in that since it is an original recording by you and your friends, no copyright in relation to the original recording of the piece applies. However, both the composition and publishing rights to the intellectual property are in effect. So you're not claimed because of the recording, but because of a recreation of a piece of music that is still under copyright. That's the same reason why a lot of movies and TV shows wouldn't sing the 'Happy Birthday' song. I don't agree that they should claim covers since I'd say it's very flattering and creates fan engagement and enthusiasm about the music itself. If any of my musical works were to be covered, I most certainly wouldn't claim them because those fractions of a penny aren't worth the lost respect. But legally speaking, they are in the right so you probably don't want to waste effort in trying to counterclaim.
I have taught copyright law of myself and even recently had to help somebody with a copyright issue in regard to a cover. I’m not an attorney, but I definitely know when you need to call them in regard to copyright. At any rate, I second everything the above posted.
@@SymbolicSplenetic Not anymore. Warner Music claimed the copyright for a number of decades because of very long shenanigans involving the rights. Ironically enough, it was the lyrics that they claimed, the melody was already out of copyright. Eventually it got challenged in court and the copyright was revoked. Warned even had to pay back some royalties that they collected. It's one of those hilariously stupid tales of copyright being dumb.
@@piizog Yeah I read an Ars Technica article about it a few hours after I posted that. LOL, they had to pay back 14 million dollars. Probably a drop in the bucket all things considered, but still pretty cool that at least the ones after 2009 could get a 100% refund.
Would you like to do a review of some yearly Belgian metal fests? - Throne Fest (800-1000 visitors, indoor, in Kuurne) - Blast From The Past (800-1000, indoor, in Kuurne) - Huginns Awakening Fest (1000-1500, indoor, in Oostende) - Antwerp Metal Fest (1000-1500, open air, in Antwerpen) - Oilsjt Omploft (500, indoor, in Aalst) - Alcatraz Metal Festival (8000-12000 / day, open air, in Kortrijk) - ...
Ultimate Care. We put our heart and soul into conveying profit in quantity whereas you're here with us. This will be felt through the warmth and mindfulness of our staff and teachers who are there to put the hole in your pockets. Our focus into all you have is in the most subtle way, like the elements so that you just feel truly well violated for I can profoundly lie as a very scamming being.
Omg. This guy is no better than Billy McFarland of Fyre Festival. Ok, maybe slightly, he managed to put together an actual festival, but the purple heart business at the end really cinches his spot as one of the con artists of our world. This is disgusting.
Frankly I'd petition any band booked by MetalDays to pull out. After 3 years of having no money for refunds yet all the money to up(down)grade, I'd argue that any band still willing to bring people to the scam, are complicit in the scam themselves.
The bands are not our enemies man. They are talented people struggling in an absolutely brutal and soul draining business, sometimes trying to earn their food with it.
They are looking for volunteers to do jobs like stage setup that should be paid crew, a festival local to me that has also ripped people off and owes money is also doing the same thing. Using volunteers for events jobs that should be paid is a massive red flag the promoter is dodgy.
A gathering of spirits, where music reigned, Bound by heavy rhythms, passion unrestrained, The crowds once rejoiced, their spirits soared high, But the owner's betrayal now stains the sky. (Pre-Chorus) Promises broken, trust shattered like glass, Fans left empty-handed, as the debts amassed, A golden era tarnished, a once-beloved home, As fans grapple with anger, left to roam. (Chorus) Metaldays, oh, how you used to soar, A haven for metalheads, forevermore, But the tides have turned, a bitter twist of fate, A cherished legacy now marred by hate. (Bridge) But amidst the shadows, a glimmer of light, The metal community, a force to ignite, Together we rise, with voices strong, Demanding justice, righting the wrongs. (Chorus) Metaldays, we'll reclaim what was lost, The spirit of metal, no matter the cost, Unite as one, rebuild from the debris, A festival redeemed, for all to see. (Outro) Metaldays will rise again, against the odds, A phoenix from ashes, defying the frauds, For the love of metal, our hearts will mend, Metaldays, reborn, let the music transcend.
Oh boy.That puts yesterday's situations in a whole new light and explains it. No information until 8am, but the first national warning sirens could already be heard at half past six AM. from the official side there was no one to be seen until 9am. By then, dozens of vehicles had already been evacuated. everything in the own organization of the fans
theres also the thing that the ticket is way more expensive, the bands are smaller IMHO (like having In Flames as the main headliner for a 300€ event, also there was supposed to be a main headliner announced later, but that just never happened and In Flames just stayed the biggest band), giant bands being replaced with smaller bands (Anthrax being replaced with Carcass, love them but I think Anthrax has a more legendary status), and its dates are clashing with Wacken
So their website seems to just be a generic no information website with links to another website. And their Facebook/Instagram page for the site? Non existent as if Facebook removed it. Same as the TH-cam channel linked on their. Which was probably the channel they used to report your video for Copyright. Doing good work! Keep it up and hopefully the new festival goes over well!
Btw, when there are concerts on that place at lake, music can be heard on the other side of city. I'll just listen to whole festival for free from my balcony 4 km away or go next to venue fence.
Tolminator really looks not only similar to older Metaldays editions, but to Obscene Extreme as well. Had I found out about it earlier I would've booked a ticked. Off to next year!
Sounds like he was rolling money instead of having actual funds to pay for things up front, hence not actually having the available capital go refund. Borrowed from A to pay B, so when A wanted the money back, he didn't have it anymore. Bad business.
I was at Metalcamp and Metaldays many times since 2006. I do miss one thing in your video. The reason it moved from Tolmin is because the government is constructing a road straight thru the former festival location in Tolmin. Besides that, I did visit the Velenje location, which is a pretty beach on a lake. But it does not have the same allure as the Soca for sure.
Not even surprised. This is why I'm cautious to ever go to another festival. Remember how I said I bled a ton of money and wasted time twice because of a no re entry rule in one of my other comments? Festivals are usually staffed by nice people, and the bands are awesome, but the assholes who run them always ruin them one way or another. Anytime I see a article exposing festival runners as scamming people or being a right wing prop up group who are donating the funds to hate groups I'm not surprised, I just go "Yup. There it is." and continue on my day. I was considering going to a war metal/industrial/post punk festival next year and shilling out a cold $1,500 usd to fly to where it's taking place in Japan, but after everything I'm so demotivated that I don't think I will because I'm sure I'll end up getting stranded and have to hitch a ride illegally on a fishing cargo ship back to the US with my luck and the management probably leading to a repeat of the same old story, then when I come back I find out I accidentally helped fund the Imperialist Revival Party of Japan. The absolute state. I wish there were some way to unionize a festival directly between fans and bands to not have to deal with stuff like this. That's the wrong term but you know what I mean, cut out the middle man who's just there to profit with the most anti consumer policies he can stuff it with.
Grab your Metal Head buddies, go somewhere into nature by a river, bring lots of metal music and camp out for a few days. Beats any festival, to be honest.
Forgot about metal days. When I first heard about it I thought it was too good to be true. Seemed to expensive for what it was but the idea itself is sound. Although that's how most scams work.
It was too good to be true, but it was real and not expensive. But in th recent years it has been ruined. I made some of the best memories of my life at metaldays.
The record company scum are almost always the ones who file claims. The very same record company scum who ripoff musicians as SOP. Yes, those same thieves. I agree with Frank Marino that we should be buying music directly from musicians, and cut out the middleman.
I bought a ticket for this year's edition, but sure at hell it will be last time I give a single euro to boban and MD. sorry about it because i used to like it very much, i've been a customer since 2014.
The entire way the West does copyright laws should be overthrown. For starters, just introduce severe financial penalties for attorneys and plaintiffs whenever they try to take something down that obviously falls under fair use. There should be consequences for scummy behavior like that.
Well by moving festivals place so this year is probably gonna be the last year of Metaldays that did happen to many of the festivals in Slovenia as Naked Rock and many more of other festivals in Slovenia
We did a ticket exchange from 2020 to 2022, but honestly I don't remember it being a straight forward thing to do, we'd done the block booking of 4 tickets and the guy who booked them had no idea he was supposed to submit an official request, if it wasnt for my ex bf being so on the ball i think the tickets would have ended up invalid and no refund would have come to us either. I remember at the time thinking "Oh this feels a bit sneaky" which was a shame as I've had so many brilliant metaldays. I got covid the day before I was due to travel and missed MD22 anyway, but never mind...
You should make another video how they sold tickets for 2024 and then canceled and again no refunds.. Or how noone got back their leftover "casless system" money from 2023, or how smaller bands didnt get paid last year, or how the workers didnt get payed last year..Boban owes me 500eu now.
Funny story, but not so funny, a festival in Québec, Canada pulled similar shit a few years back but instead of screwing fans, they did it to the bands, ,they owed over 5 million to bands and declared bankrupscy and the guy disappeared for a long time, I had called him out publicly about some of the stuff going on and the "owner" had written to me on his personnal fb page threatening me because I was apparently lying about him, but a few months later all the stories were in the papers 😂😂😂
Metaldays moving in the first place was bullshit, the other fest, punk rock holiday, stayed there. All this bullshit about the local government building a road blahblah. I was sick of it after 2019. Had a great time but felt the 'we wanna get bigger' attitude. Then the new fest Tolminator shows up. That sealed the deal. Not going back to Metaldays ever again. I might check out Tolminator at some point in the future though. Also heard from a friend that went to Mataldays in 2022 that people got scammed by the actual festival with their drinks/food. Workers charging way more than they should and stuff. Honestly more European festivals have or have had this feeling of expanding. Most are all gone or not doing well. Meanwhile the staple big fests keep doing very well. So yeah, trying to compete with the big boys is a dumb idea. There's plenty of huge ones already, we dont need more.
Used to be my favorite festival, I didn't care too much about the lineup, i just wanted to be in tolmin every summer. We still waiting for 6 refunds, I will never go again to metaldays.
Sounds almost like the Hove festival in Arendal, Norway. It wasn't a metal only festival, but it's had some big metal names playing. Usually one or two days on a stage dedicated to it. Anyway, they cancelled the entire festival - not even because of covid, just because they couldn't handle their economy at all. It's a very funny story for people who didn't buy a ticket, but for those who did, I imagine it makes their blood boil.
How badly do those spectators trash the lush forest every year??? So they pick up their own trash and put it where it belongs, or now do people exploring the area need to worry about stepping on glass or a rusty can? Asking for a friend...
Metalheads are respectfull peoples here, they respect the forest and the river, i've never seen any can throw away like a moron will do. on the campsite, it's another thing, you have clean group, and people like french or belgium peoples who goes mainly to hellfest/graspop that are totally trash and it's sad.
Hm. Only thing i'm a bit confused about is the passing comment about your Gojira cover. How is it bullshit? You want to make money from a video of you and friends playing a song written by someone else? It's the intellectual property of the songwriter, you're simply performing it. Any emotions, inspiration, feeling etc. generated during the performance and then felt by the audience technically belongs to the songwriter as well, unless there was an improvisation, so as a work of art - functioning in its truest sense - the entirety of the performance also technically belongs to the songwriter. They should be the only ones who profit from its broadcast. You and your friends learned to play it, credit to you, and you booked a show and performed it, credit again, but it is in no way yours. If you were paying a valid PRS license and then had that reflected in the upload, it would all be gravy.
Tolminator is at least organized by Dirty Skunks, who have been putting hundreds of gigs per year on for years. Proper fans, proper organizers.
❤ Dirty Skunks rules
@@tanky666hate arent there also members of metalcamp participating again?
Who cares..
@@wimtorreborre729 - Dirty Skunks are responsible for the bands and booking, while logistics side of organisation is dealt by the same crew that is organising Punk Rock Holiday on the same location.
@@bostjanvolk actually Punk Rock Holiday crew decided to part ways with Skunks, so it's pure Skunk's show now.
My experience: I bought 4 tickets for MetalDays 2020 edition. 3 years went by and still haven't received a refund. I understand that it takes time to refund but the unbelievable part is that in 2 months there is a new edition of the festival and somehow they are still holding my 800€+. One festival edition was also last year (2022). Last time I received email notification about refunds was probably more than 1 year ago. If their interest would be in refunding then they would keep us informed. So it looks like they just stole the money and created new festival (probably even opened new company to hide debt). They clearly don't give a shit about fans. Wrote many mails but they just don't give a damn. They offered me a promotion code instead but I do not want to be a part of this festival and most importantly I do not want to support greedy and scamming organisators. 800€ is not a small amount otherwise it wouldn't be such a big problem for me. And after all of this I see them (MetalDays) arguing with people in comments here and on Facebook. You can't be more low than that. They (Boban) should be ashamed of themselves. Taking fans money and spitting in their face when it's time to refund. Can't even believe that this is possible but I believe in karma and I believe one day they will taste it - universe always makes things right at the end. Peace.
Starting another company to hide the money is exactly what he did!
@@wyattsmetal Thank you for the video (expose) and for speaking in the name of us who were scammed. I am with you all.
I'm in exactly the same situation
If it takes that long to refund fans for an event that never took place it's not a viable business and it's more likely a criminal organization.
Yeah, they still owe me 680 Euros
Thank you for calling them out!! We've been trying to get our money back to no avail! You're doing a good service! We got you!!
Great Video Man!
I'm a 7 years veteran of MetalDays and also worked there as a volunteer for a while, so I really knew the drama surrounding Boban and the Refunds and also his very ridicolous behaviors both in the private and public FB Groups, but thanx to this video I found out how low he can go.
I will share this vid around, hope it helps make some noise and help the people who still didn't get the refund.
Oh and also good job shouting out the Tolminator fest, this festival really need succeed! If you are gonna be there, beer's on me!!
See you at Tolminator 🤘🏻
Da fuq. This is why we need actual community channels like yours because...this insane.
Haha there is not much that makes my heart beat faster than some good old scene beef. With YT (pun intended) creators being overly protective about what they say out of fear of beeing cancelled, it really is a breath of fresh air to see a smaller channel just doing what is right and calling out the bullshit. Glad to see your channel is doing well (for now lol)! All the best from Germany.
I appreciate that thank you! Just don't like seeing honest fans get screwed with
@@wyattsmetal💪💪
@@wyattsmetalOi Oi Oi from Orange County California.. like your real approach to, well Truth and Journalism actually,, my past was .. Production assistant for the Ink N Iron festival in Long Beach CA 🇺🇸.. Tattoo festival, Car Show with Band's.. 13 years of it.. honestly you've not asked for much beyond basic Human rights and treatment, we knew nothing, stared knowing nothing, figured it out,, my goal was treating folks well,, seeing how it actually goes . It's pure greed.. your voicing against.. Keep at it Dude.. your channel is awesome true DIY..
Our independent Show, got big enough to piss off the Biggie COs.. telling bands, if you play, our show, you can't play etc venue.. we had to pay up to a level, that could do, play, what they want.. Iggy Pop, Killswitch etc and more..
We had Bands tells us,, in person about the Blackball threats.. later Brother.. never stop
Great work. Went to metaldays once, had a great time, but this makes me mad. Hope Tolminator ignites the old metalcamp vibes once again.
Tolminator will be a completely different story. Organizers are Dirty Skunks team (20+ years of organizing metal/punk/rock concerts in Slovenia and great people), tickets and prices are as normal as it can be in current environment, it will look a lot like Punk Rock Holidays which, from an organization stand point, is A LOT better and people friendly than MetalDays ever was. Can't wait
The whole online copyright claim/strike crap is out of hand. The concept of fair use is thrown out the windows and anyone can wrongly strike and/or take down anything on just accusations and nothing based on actual law or precident.
But they know TH-camrs don't have legal teams on their payroll and it would not be financially viable to lawyer up for every false claim.
Copyright laws in general are out of hand, tbh. The situation with fair use on TH-cam is just a real life reducto ad absurdum argument playing out in front of everyone.
That's why you fly your black flag anyone who financially support these fascist are part of the problem.
One would think a streamers union would exist at this point.
In 2020 i bought 5 tickets to Brutal Assault for me, my wife, my father and mother and someone who has a drivings license and doesnt drink (smart right) :D For my family that would be their first metal festival EVER! And i was proud to show them why i love BA and went there for 6 years. Then Pandemic hit. Ok i still got money, thought not 2020 but we will go to 2021. Then my wife lost here job because of that pandemic and i had no choice to ask for refunds as much as i didnt wanted to. And you know what? In 2 weeks, when i was ir grocery store to see if i can afford toilet paper of potatos, i got a message that i got my refund. And THATS why in 2024 (not this year because we still have to get back on our feets) i will take my family to BA! They deserve all my money and love!
During the pandemic Boban was also constantly arguing with People in a group called something like "Metaldays snowflakes paradise". That's the reason why my friends and I started calling him Boban Butthurt
He's been a prick in that group for a long time now but I'm sure it's only gotten worse
@@wyattsmetal I really started noticing when they had plans to ban bringing outside food and drin to the festival area, including the campground
@@preuner19 well they did it, people on the facebook page snowflakes paradise said you were not allowed to bring your own drink on near the lake, have to buy 5€ union and some people were even charged 4€ for water supposed to be free . And a lot of other shit x) now it's cancelled because all the camp ground is flooded and all road closed.
MetalDays should hire a PR person; their whole approach to dealing with fans is pathetic, which is obvious even in the reaction to this video.
With Bo as a boss, I wouldn´t want to work for this festival even if he paid me his weight in gold.
I understand the beef you guys have with Metal days, I get it and condone it, but it really busts my balls when someone talks shit about my city, especially not ever being here. Yes, I'm from Velenje (you didn't pronounce it that bad at all, cheers!) ... and for you to compare it to Isengard, just to suit your agenda, is dead wrong, childish at least. Let me draw a better picture for all metal heads that were possibly reppeled by the presentation.
Velenje is simply beautiful. One of the greenest cities in Slovenia and voted the most beautiful city in Slovenia back-to-back for a few years a row now. It goes hand in hand with modern and green, and we're kinda very proud of it. Yes, if you look to the west (which you probably won't much, as all the fun is east oriented) there is a power plant in the neighboring town of Šoštanj. Your pictures are very outdated, due to extensive efforts to minimize pollution, high tech air cleaning devices were installed, so what you see is mostly just steam being released from heating turbines, and only one of those chimneys is still operational. Trust me, it's not that bad. On the other hand ... it seems a bit funny to me that metal heads are that much bothered with some industrial scenery.
So really, don't worry about that, you have plenty of parks, lake, castles, bars, good music and fun stuff to keep you busy. Welcome to Velenje.
I appreciate this comment! And admittedly I haven't been to Velenje so I don't know personally. I have looked it up and some people have told me that the smell from the plant can still be pretty bad depending on the wind. Is that true?
@wyattsmetal There are occasions with certain wind direction and air pressure, when you can smell something, but it's not the smoke, it's fresh coal stored outside, for the plant ... locals kinda got used to it, but it could be interesting experience for a newcomer. Nothing too awful tho. I'm sure there will always be armpit nearby that smells much worse 😆
You're my hero!
We have been going to Metaldays for years and it was always clear that Boban is sort off a dweeb.
After complains about beer prices and overall prices going up each year he changed the name off the fbook forum into "Snowflakes Paradise", a few people laughed about it but after a few days most where wondering if the joke wasn't past it's prime... it's still called that way! The next year T-shirt where being sold with the print "Boban Milunović melting Snowflakes since 1971", I don't believe many where sold...
But, we also loved the fest. Nice location, the village is relaxed and supermarkets are really near, the way they treated the area was really inspirational and it's good to have a few non-meat options. So, we're going to Tolminator, hopefully it will be the best of both worlds!
To be fair, the “smoke” from a nuclear power plant is just steam, and does not include any chemicals.
I get that it doesnt have the same “green” appearance, but hosting the festival there is the same as hosting it next to a windmill or solar cell farm, at least in terms of climate impact.
But great video:)
That's a coal power plant, not a nuclear one :)
Ironically our biggest power plant
The only thing that could've made this video better was to emphasize the average amount of money each customer was out and some information on attendance to get an idea of how much money this man potentially defrauded.
Wyatt watches My Little Pony confirmed.
That's the most damning info in the whole video
Boba probably shouldn't be threatening to sue when he himself has literally stolen from thousands of people.
Played at MetalCamp (2009 2nd stage, 2011 2nd stage and 2012 Main Stage) and worked all the years after that as press and I can say; yes, the dude that owns this is a G.S. (go figure it out) Calls the attendees "snowflakes", got more stringent on what you can and cannot bring onto the campsite (normally you could bring your own food and drinks onto it - CAMPSITE ONLY!), made everything triple as expensive as it was, he did not go into any criticism at all, but mostly just ridiculed the person making the valid critique.
Also Velenje is total bullshit for the festival; people will 100% get robbed there and it will smell like sulphur.
Tolminator is organized by DirtySkunks and the guys from PunkRock Holidays; Dirty Skuns were responsible for the 2nd stage bands for some years and since then this stage was mostly filled for every band.
Now to the scammy part: Covid hit, tickets were already sold and the festival was then cancelled - people did not get their refunds or anything an mostly got ridiculed. He whined how he doesn't have money but meanwhile building a "holistic health center" in Zanzibar.
The festival in Velenje will be smaller btw.
Also; he wanted to make the festival fully vegan (no meat allowed anywhere on the festival grounds including campsite etc..) The tickets went from 120€ to 290€(!!!) and they say:"oh it includes warm showers etc.." only thing is they did not change the infrastructure and the warm water ran out around 8-9 AM and after that only cold showers were available.
He is probably the most hated guy in Slovenija and no one has the balls to say something since they want to play on MetalDays, but since this festival is going to crash and burn in Velenje, more people come out of the woodwork.
Fuck this guy and this festival. I will never support it again.
Please just go to Tolminator or some other festival.
I was going to metaldays 2021 and i never received tickets or the shirt I ordered with it i was planning on trying to get in contact with them about a refund but seeing so much of this BS that they’re pulling i feel like its just wasted effort and not worth it anymore.
Because if you pay attention, MD page looks like a scam page. Otherwise Bo would greet the fans every year, but since he's scarred to get beaten... well...
Still waiting for the 2020 refund. I do take every opportunity to remind them about it in the comments section on FB.
It's in the bricks on Zanzibar!
@@soaringblackbird4431 Isn't that resort made of wood?
@@PeterGregorc maybe that wood that Bo got when he stole all the money
I did buy a ticket for the 2021 edition that got cancelled, and then asked to book my ticket to the 2022 version, no issue whatsoever. I haven't checked with other visitors, but last year's edition was far from ideal, especially with the roadworks that basically cut the valley in half. From what I have seen from the organisation of Tolminator however, it seems that they are really pushing to work with the local municipality, they get things done and I know some of the guys from Dirty Skunks, the organisers personally from when I played at Metaldays 2018 with my band. I look forward to see some of the magic back, since that was what I liked about Metaldays in the beginning, the intimate setting. This year I'm playing at Tolminator with my current band, so I'm looking forward to go back to Tolmin 🤘
I was curious about why MetalDays moved elsewhere and found a Facebook post where they explained that the festival location in Tolmin will be cut in half by a big road which is under construction. Now I am a bit confused in regards to how Tolminator festival managed to work around this problem.
maybe because its supposed to be smaller? Idrk tho, just a geuss
I heard this road construction stuff was actually bullshit from Metal Days, which had to move from Tolmin for other reasons they wouldn't share. I have no idea if this is true. I just hope they won't butcher the beautiful Soca Valley. Better way to check is to go to Tolminator. Also, after watching this video : fuck you Metal Days and good luck Wyatt.
Tolminator is limited to 5000 people capacity.
It's a site capacity issue. Metaldays was too big to fit, Tolminator is much smaller.
Tolminator is like Punk Rock Holidays at the same place - the only use the Second Stage in the Forest, so the big Stage is missing because of the new Road.
So there is truth at both sides - if you want to continue with acts played the last Years at Metaldays it is not possible because you need more Visitors to pay them.
What a punk man, ripping people off. That's unacceptable
I once stole a sausage from the big grill at Metaldays. Sue me.
This further paints metaldays in a terrible light. I will never support them. Download 2023 was AMAZING!!
When Wacken was cancelled because of the pandemic the refund process was fairly smooth. Glad I didn't experience this kind of shitshow.
Isengard 🤣 That was comedic gold and also...sad. Well...metaldays is not gonna see neither me or my girlfriend.
Did I read this right? A metal festival scammed you guys and now they are threatening to sue you? WTF
Damn dude, I was so tempted by this festival. Obviously, not going to bother now. Such a shame because I've heard good things.
do tolminator instead!!
BOBAN BEEN REAL QUIET SINCE U POSTED THIS
Scammers are like that.
It was a great festival, but the amount of shenanigans I've seen both while there and in the interim between festivals does not have me surprised at this outcome...
Imagine all the PPE loans this guy got on top of it
When Rectal Smegma is in your third tier it's definitely a small fest.
wow that is really disappointing. just the other day when my summer festival season started I was talking to my sister about "that cool festival in slovenia" and planned to go there next year. guess not...
Screw MD, come to Tolminator instead! Same venue, same river, 5k capacity (which is why MD moved), and reputable organisers
@@MrOzzblizzard sounds good but I heard there were financial difficulties to the point where wasn't sure if it'll take place... but looks like it's gonna happen^^ hopefully I can go next year, this july I'm busy unfortunately
Went to a few Metaldays, had a great time, but definitely made the right choice to not support them further.
Are we going to get an expose on the old Milwaukee Metalfest promoter? Heard a lot of stuff about that guy.
Im honestly not familiar with that whole situation since it was before my time. If it was going on right now then I probably would, but it's long passed now. The Metaldays situation is still going on and I take issue with fans being screwed over and silenced so I felt the need for this video.
Got the deets OP? Only thing I know of was Full Terror Assault getting screwed out of a vendor booth. That's because I briefly chatted with out of the guys.
@@ChunkSchuldinga He fleeced a bunch of bands on the MMF bill. He was also a contributing promoter for other metal festivals and screwed over bands for those as well. Either bouncing checks or canceling their contracts without standing. All of this happened in 2004 during the summer tours. I don't remember any resolution ever happening. It killed MMF and I don't believe Koshick has been actively involved with metal promotion since that summer... it was band after band coming out of the woodworks saying they got screwed by him that summer.
Is this where we tell him that Graspop Metal Meeting is right next to the Belgian Nuclear Research facility (NIRAS) which includes storage of highly radio-active fissure material? 😀
A few comments on the new venue - I was checking the place available for camping in Velenje and compared it to Tolmin and there's no way, there's more place at the new venue and next to 0 of shade. The water in the lake simply stinks. While it is true, that it is better than it was, the fact remains that the lakes were used for dumping off the coal ash from the thermal power plant for several decades, so there really is no comparison. And to use all the views in the promo, not to show that said plant and offering extra activities that spread in the area of around 50km or more, as they are on site (like Tolmin had), is lame at best.
Thanks for exposing Boban for what he is. Keep up the good fight! But I guess he sudoku-ed himself location wise, so it's kinda a win win for metal fans and the festival in Tolmin. I give his trash festival max 3 years.
I know it's eastern Europe but the fact that war is still listed as the first "circumstance beyond normal conditions" blows my mind.
It’s in Central Europe
Have you been living under a rock for past 1.5 years?
@@JoinMeInDeathBaby To be fair the statement was put out before the Russian invasion in 2022.
It's the Balkans, there was a war in the 90s
Ah, it is not war..... but this is typical balkans rip off. So many "CEO managers" in Slovenia robbed and destroyed companies...most of them have money in tax havens. So, Boban is not the only one as he has learned from the best CEOs managers in Slovenia.
It will be intetesting to see how Metaldays goes. I went to Metaldays 2022 and I had fun but it wasnt the same as previous years. Guards going around the campsite asking people to basically shut up as we werent allowed to make noise after midnight etc. The pricing at the festival was ridicolous, they charged drinks depending on what bouse was used and didnt tell beforehand so you could get charged a normal amount or like 56€ for a drink. I bought my ticket for Metaldays 2023 in hope that it would be the same feeling as before the pandemic again, but I doubt due to missing the river and that the festival is tehing to expand and I'm tired of big festivals.
Will be interesting to see how Tolminator works if they will be restricted by all the restrictions that was announced placed by the muncipality.
i hope you are okay and have no damage caused by the flood.
Good video and you're 95% correct in all of your legal analysis. Fuck that guy and fuck spurious copyright strikes in general.
However, since you did such a good job of these things, as someone who is educated and has taught music copyright laws, I do want to take the time to explain why the Gojira cover claim is actually valid. You're right in that since it is an original recording by you and your friends, no copyright in relation to the original recording of the piece applies. However, both the composition and publishing rights to the intellectual property are in effect. So you're not claimed because of the recording, but because of a recreation of a piece of music that is still under copyright. That's the same reason why a lot of movies and TV shows wouldn't sing the 'Happy Birthday' song.
I don't agree that they should claim covers since I'd say it's very flattering and creates fan engagement and enthusiasm about the music itself. If any of my musical works were to be covered, I most certainly wouldn't claim them because those fractions of a penny aren't worth the lost respect. But legally speaking, they are in the right so you probably don't want to waste effort in trying to counterclaim.
I appreciate you breaking this down!
I have taught copyright law of myself and even recently had to help somebody with a copyright issue in regard to a cover. I’m not an attorney, but I definitely know when you need to call them in regard to copyright. At any rate, I second everything the above posted.
Wait wait....someone owns the copyright to the Happy Birthday song!? Holy shit lol. Ya learn something new every day...
@@SymbolicSplenetic Not anymore. Warner Music claimed the copyright for a number of decades because of very long shenanigans involving the rights. Ironically enough, it was the lyrics that they claimed, the melody was already out of copyright. Eventually it got challenged in court and the copyright was revoked. Warned even had to pay back some royalties that they collected. It's one of those hilariously stupid tales of copyright being dumb.
@@piizog Yeah I read an Ars Technica article about it a few hours after I posted that. LOL, they had to pay back 14 million dollars. Probably a drop in the bucket all things considered, but still pretty cool that at least the ones after 2009 could get a 100% refund.
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Would you like to do a review of some yearly Belgian metal fests?
- Throne Fest (800-1000 visitors, indoor, in Kuurne)
- Blast From The Past (800-1000, indoor, in Kuurne)
- Huginns Awakening Fest (1000-1500, indoor, in Oostende)
- Antwerp Metal Fest (1000-1500, open air, in Antwerpen)
- Oilsjt Omploft (500, indoor, in Aalst)
- Alcatraz Metal Festival (8000-12000 / day, open air, in Kortrijk)
- ...
Definitely!
Ultimate Care.
We put our heart and soul into conveying profit in quantity whereas you're here with us.
This will be felt through the warmth and mindfulness of our staff and teachers who are there to put the hole in your pockets. Our focus into all you have is in the most subtle way, like the elements so that you just feel truly well violated for I can profoundly lie as a very scamming being.
Omg. This guy is no better than Billy McFarland of Fyre Festival. Ok, maybe slightly, he managed to put together an actual festival, but the purple heart business at the end really cinches his spot as one of the con artists of our world. This is disgusting.
Frankly I'd petition any band booked by MetalDays to pull out. After 3 years of having no money for refunds yet all the money to up(down)grade, I'd argue that any band still willing to bring people to the scam, are complicit in the scam themselves.
The bands are not our enemies man. They are talented people struggling in an absolutely brutal and soul draining business, sometimes trying to earn their food with it.
@@GoHM-2Yourselfabsolutely agree. Bands have a hard tine to find places to perform and they need it to promote their releases and merch
Thank you so much for this one. Great info (wouldn't go there with the new post-apocalypse location anyway, but still)
They are looking for volunteers to do jobs like stage setup that should be paid crew, a festival local to me that has also ripped people off and owes money is also doing the same thing.
Using volunteers for events jobs that should be paid is a massive red flag the promoter is dodgy.
A gathering of spirits, where music reigned,
Bound by heavy rhythms, passion unrestrained,
The crowds once rejoiced, their spirits soared high,
But the owner's betrayal now stains the sky.
(Pre-Chorus)
Promises broken, trust shattered like glass,
Fans left empty-handed, as the debts amassed,
A golden era tarnished, a once-beloved home,
As fans grapple with anger, left to roam.
(Chorus)
Metaldays, oh, how you used to soar,
A haven for metalheads, forevermore,
But the tides have turned, a bitter twist of fate,
A cherished legacy now marred by hate.
(Bridge)
But amidst the shadows, a glimmer of light,
The metal community, a force to ignite,
Together we rise, with voices strong,
Demanding justice, righting the wrongs.
(Chorus)
Metaldays, we'll reclaim what was lost,
The spirit of metal, no matter the cost,
Unite as one, rebuild from the debris,
A festival redeemed, for all to see.
(Outro)
Metaldays will rise again, against the odds,
A phoenix from ashes, defying the frauds,
For the love of metal, our hearts will mend,
Metaldays, reborn, let the music transcend.
Oh boy.That puts yesterday's situations in a whole new light and explains it.
No information until 8am, but the first national warning sirens could already be heard at half past six AM.
from the official side there was no one to be seen until 9am. By then, dozens of vehicles had already been evacuated. everything in the own organization of the fans
theres also the thing that the ticket is way more expensive, the bands are smaller IMHO (like having In Flames as the main headliner for a 300€ event, also there was supposed to be a main headliner announced later, but that just never happened and In Flames just stayed the biggest band), giant bands being replaced with smaller bands (Anthrax being replaced with Carcass, love them but I think Anthrax has a more legendary status), and its dates are clashing with Wacken
So their website seems to just be a generic no information website with links to another website. And their Facebook/Instagram page for the site? Non existent as if Facebook removed it. Same as the TH-cam channel linked on their. Which was probably the channel they used to report your video for Copyright. Doing good work! Keep it up and hopefully the new festival goes over well!
Btw, when there are concerts on that place at lake, music can be heard on the other side of city. I'll just listen to whole festival for free from my balcony 4 km away or go next to venue fence.
Tolminator really looks not only similar to older Metaldays editions, but to Obscene Extreme as well. Had I found out about it earlier I would've booked a ticked. Off to next year!
For those of you who are old enough to remember the, "Monsters of Rock" festivals, those were the glory days in America.
You said lots of smart things & big words. I'm gonna take your word that you know what you're talking about.👍
Not the first time I have seen YT cancel instead of videos from a creator that used legal means to utilize other people’s works
Sounds like he was rolling money instead of having actual funds to pay for things up front, hence not actually having the available capital go refund. Borrowed from A to pay B, so when A wanted the money back, he didn't have it anymore. Bad business.
Hoooooo boy this oughta be good
I was right, good video Wyatt, good job exposing the man child for what he is.
I should sell Little Bo Prick shirts
I live in Šoštanj and my father worked in that power plant.
If you come to Tolminator next year: I´ll offer you one... two... MORE beer at our camp! :D
I'm playing Tolminator next year!
@@wyattsmetal Even better! :D then it will be easy to find you ;)
I was at Metalcamp and Metaldays many times since 2006. I do miss one thing in your video. The reason it moved from Tolmin is because the government is constructing a road straight thru the former festival location in Tolmin.
Besides that, I did visit the Velenje location, which is a pretty beach on a lake. But it does not have the same allure as the Soca for sure.
What IS more heavy metal than heavy metals?
Not even surprised.
This is why I'm cautious to ever go to another festival.
Remember how I said I bled a ton of money and wasted time twice because of a no re entry rule in one of my other comments?
Festivals are usually staffed by nice people, and the bands are awesome, but the assholes who run them always ruin them one way or another.
Anytime I see a article exposing festival runners as scamming people or being a right wing prop up group who are donating the funds to hate groups I'm not surprised, I just go "Yup. There it is." and continue on my day.
I was considering going to a war metal/industrial/post punk festival next year and shilling out a cold $1,500 usd to fly to where it's taking place in Japan, but after everything I'm so demotivated that I don't think I will because I'm sure I'll end up getting stranded and have to hitch a ride illegally on a fishing cargo ship back to the US with my luck and the management probably leading to a repeat of the same old story, then when I come back I find out I accidentally helped fund the Imperialist Revival Party of Japan.
The absolute state.
I wish there were some way to unionize a festival directly between fans and bands to not have to deal with stuff like this. That's the wrong term but you know what I mean, cut out the middle man who's just there to profit with the most anti consumer policies he can stuff it with.
You’re the man
Grab your Metal Head buddies, go somewhere into nature by a river, bring lots of metal music and camp out for a few days. Beats any festival, to be honest.
Industrial shizzel is only cool to trip on with some background metal XD
Colour me shocked. Great work my dude.
As you can see I was not down with this sort of thing
@@wyattsmetal and good on you! I've half a mind to get off my ass and do a video on it myself...
I support this idea I loved your channel man
Forgot about metal days. When I first heard about it I thought it was too good to be true. Seemed to expensive for what it was but the idea itself is sound. Although that's how most scams work.
It was a great festival, brilliant natural environment, great bands. It used to be called Metal Camp, it went down the shitter after.
It was too good to be true, but it was real and not expensive. But in th recent years it has been ruined. I made some of the best memories of my life at metaldays.
The record company scum are almost always the ones who file claims. The very same record company scum who ripoff musicians as SOP. Yes, those same thieves. I agree with Frank Marino that we should be buying music directly from musicians, and cut out the middleman.
I bought a ticket for this year's edition, but sure at hell it will be last time I give a single euro to boban and MD. sorry about it because i used to like it very much, i've been a customer since 2014.
Still waiting for my blueridge 2023 refund too. Thanks for calling these asshats out!!
Lol
Bllep you MetalDays! LOL @ Little Bo Prick. So great and accurate.
The entire way the West does copyright laws should be overthrown. For starters, just introduce severe financial penalties for attorneys and plaintiffs whenever they try to take something down that obviously falls under fair use. There should be consequences for scummy behavior like that.
Wow. Never would've guessed there was a metal version of Fyre festival... xD
That MF must have done something to get kicked out off main grounds. Probably municipality fraud or robbed the town of something.
Maybe but not the reason ;)
Bo hand that floater wondering eye ball. Don't know what direction he's looking at lol.
Well by moving festivals place so this year is probably gonna be the last year of Metaldays that did happen to many of the festivals in Slovenia as Naked Rock and many more of other festivals in Slovenia
We did a ticket exchange from 2020 to 2022, but honestly I don't remember it being a straight forward thing to do, we'd done the block booking of 4 tickets and the guy who booked them had no idea he was supposed to submit an official request, if it wasnt for my ex bf being so on the ball i think the tickets would have ended up invalid and no refund would have come to us either. I remember at the time thinking "Oh this feels a bit sneaky" which was a shame as I've had so many brilliant metaldays. I got covid the day before I was due to travel and missed MD22 anyway, but never mind...
You should make another video how they sold tickets for 2024 and then canceled and again no refunds.. Or how noone got back their leftover "casless system" money from 2023, or how smaller bands didnt get paid last year, or how the workers didnt get payed last year..Boban owes me 500eu now.
Funny story, but not so funny, a festival in Québec, Canada pulled similar shit a few years back but instead of screwing fans, they did it to the bands, ,they owed over 5 million to bands and declared bankrupscy and the guy disappeared for a long time, I had called him out publicly about some of the stuff going on and the "owner" had written to me on his personnal fb page threatening me because I was apparently lying about him, but a few months later all the stories were in the papers 😂😂😂
It's funny that it's about half of what the man is actually doing
Facts
Rich old guys don’t become rich old guys by being good people
Imagine shedding this much tears over a festival with bands like Killswitch Engage, Bullet for my Valentine, In Flames, etc
The whole thing sucks. But forcing people to be Vegan? That’s low. That’s real low 😡
What do you mean? No one is forced except for the animals.
Good job, my friend, goood job. They had no reason to take down your video, they didn't even give you a chance to defend your position.
FYRE Festival in smaller form in our little metal community?
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I never liked the idea of Metaldays being moved from Tolmin in the first place
Streisand effect
This guy sounds like the metal version of Uwe Boll
More of a Kathleen Kennedy
@@wyattsmetal 🤣🤣
Metaldays moving in the first place was bullshit, the other fest, punk rock holiday, stayed there. All this bullshit about the local government building a road blahblah. I was sick of it after 2019. Had a great time but felt the 'we wanna get bigger' attitude. Then the new fest Tolminator shows up. That sealed the deal. Not going back to Metaldays ever again. I might check out Tolminator at some point in the future though.
Also heard from a friend that went to Mataldays in 2022 that people got scammed by the actual festival with their drinks/food. Workers charging way more than they should and stuff.
Honestly more European festivals have or have had this feeling of expanding. Most are all gone or not doing well. Meanwhile the staple big fests keep doing very well. So yeah, trying to compete with the big boys is a dumb idea. There's plenty of huge ones already, we dont need more.
Here's me complaining about the soullessness of Download these days, I'm so glad it's my one and only metal/rock fest of choice every year.
Hey ,, My Little Pony crushes , I saw them open for Bison BC and High on Fire 2018 lol
Thank you for the info. Loved the vid. Dude ain't ripping me off......
Used to be my favorite festival, I didn't care too much about the lineup, i just wanted to be in tolmin every summer.
We still waiting for 6 refunds, I will never go again to metaldays.
Sounds almost like the Hove festival in Arendal, Norway. It wasn't a metal only festival, but it's had some big metal names playing. Usually one or two days on a stage dedicated to it.
Anyway, they cancelled the entire festival - not even because of covid, just because they couldn't handle their economy at all. It's a very funny story for people who didn't buy a ticket, but for those who did, I imagine it makes their blood boil.
Welcome to youtube Wyatt :)
How badly do those spectators trash the lush forest every year??? So they pick up their own trash and put it where it belongs, or now do people exploring the area need to worry about stepping on glass or a rusty can?
Asking for a friend...
Metalheads are respectfull peoples here, they respect the forest and the river, i've never seen any can throw away like a moron will do. on the campsite, it's another thing, you have clean group, and people like french or belgium peoples who goes mainly to hellfest/graspop that are totally trash and it's sad.
Hm. Only thing i'm a bit confused about is the passing comment about your Gojira cover. How is it bullshit? You want to make money from a video of you and friends playing a song written by someone else? It's the intellectual property of the songwriter, you're simply performing it. Any emotions, inspiration, feeling etc. generated during the performance and then felt by the audience technically belongs to the songwriter as well, unless there was an improvisation, so as a work of art - functioning in its truest sense - the entirety of the performance also technically belongs to the songwriter. They should be the only ones who profit from its broadcast. You and your friends learned to play it, credit to you, and you booked a show and performed it, credit again, but it is in no way yours. If you were paying a valid PRS license and then had that reflected in the upload, it would all be gravy.
Metaldays was a great festival. Been there three times when it was still good.