just wanna take a sec to remind everyone that i made this video on a budget of like $80 when I only had 2500 subscribers... so like, i tried my best. That said, clearly a lot of you are passionate about this topic & there's a ton of room for improvement -- do you want me to do a follow-up?
Let's do again! But this time, make the dude wear a thick jacket or gambeson cause chainmail was often worn with padded clothing to act as a sponge for hits, protecting both the user and the mail while the mail stopped sharp objects from slashing.
I'd like to see a follow-up, but in this new version try to use proper cutting movements (there's a couple tutorials on TH-cam) instead of swinging it like a bat and u will get a much better result
Can we take a moment to appreciate how his dad helps him through out this entire video and literaly goes through the pain of bending and cutting the pop tab
Or you can cheaply get steel suitable for making knives & swords. (Automotive springs, leaf springs are best, coil springs can work with more sweat investment.)
To be fair the pop tabs are quite abit thicker and more covering per tab than usual chainmail, while not as protective against stabs for slashes I'd say it actually holds up pretty solidly.
What most people always forget about mail armor is that although it stops blades from penetrating, your body is still absorbing the kinetic energy, so a sword blow to the torso like that is still going to hurt. A lot. And possibly cause internal damage.
I've tested a bit, a Mail without gambeson provides 80% of blunt pain. But plate armor is light and mitigates kinetic energy even without pad like gambeson.
Go for a Gambeson under mail and plate. Full form fitted plate was unreasonable for anyone but the wealthiest. If you don't have form fitted, you definitely want that Gambeson for two reasons... it provides straps and anchor points for your mail and plate to sit right with weight distribution, it allowed you to breathe under the armor and acted like a sweat wick. It prevented armor bite from where plates interlock or meet. And it did a lot to mitigate the impact as it was more than just cloth and padding like most hobbyists make. It was usually some form of semi rigid fiber like horsehair or flax between an outer layer of compressed and glued felt, linen, or wool layers or layered heavy canvas and an inner one of felt or similar wicking material. The Chain dissipates the impact, and if you wear it right, it will do it's job well, but the remainder still needs somewhere to go... that is the Gambeson or your fleshy bits. Your upper arms and legs can probably tank the shot under naked chain, but joints, hips, sternums, etc... really can't.
@@talyn3932under plate you don't really want gambeson but an arming doublet. It's thinner and lighter and has loops to attach the plate more securely. You don't need as much padding under plate and it gets hotter because it's not breathable like mail.
My dad is racy racecar driver... was... 20 years ago... for like one season... and sucked because he couldn’t afford the fancy equipment other teams were running. Placed third once. I look up to him.
@@zenithchan1646 tinfoil isn't just a name for super thin sheets of metal. Tin is a type of metal different from aluminum. Foil of this type hasn't commonly been made of tin since around World War 2. But people still call it that. That's the joke.
medieval maille was also (usually) riveted together, not just "butted" together (just open rings pushed together) like most replica/costume maille you see for sale today. Alternating rows would be solid rings and riveted rings. So not only were they stronger because of the material but also how it was fastened together
He could achieved a similar effect had he spot welded the rings where the breaks were, surely? Obviously not as strong as actual rivets, but better than just butting.
The Japanese would use butted rings and use riveted in the most stress prone spots The less funded armorsmiths in Europe would probably have done the same
b-but it's not a medieval sword in any respect! It is a modern model made with modern technology from modern steel! Technically, it's a 21st-century Chinese sword.
I used to make chains as a teenager from these, as part of metalhead and punk culture thingy. There is a trick to make them strong and I'd say it would improve your chainmail resistance. You cut the top of the pop, making it super easy for the mail to unbind even by pulling on it hard. If you cut the thick lower part at an sharp angle, it would lower the chance it will break or unbind. Was using my chain as a dog leash for example .
@@isaacpirtle2689 no, you can grind metal on those. There are sanders designed for steel or wood but if it's not a specific machine it should grind almost anything with the right belt
LOL What I posted before seeing your comment >>> Keeps using the word slice while swinging a sword like a baseball bat, should have started with learning to swing a sword
Yeah, and as for the edge, well, first time so cut them some slack. But I have to wonder how many blows skallagrim could get through that with using his falchion. I bet it would only take one slash.
@@pandorasboxofcatvideos5892 yeah. The youtubers swings were poor as well. He was more smacking the chainmail than slashing it. Still an interesting video though. You can tell he put a lot of time into it.
Also real midevil/ renaissance swords would be blunt and they would just go with enough power to knockout/ kill someone from force, and they would stab to try and break the chainmail
as a blacksmith and an armorer, i've done my fair share of shoddy makeshift projects but man is this another level. doesn't look bad but this is the peak of form over function.
As a reenactor (actually former safety officer and former combat instructor of my old group), I found myself *reaching for the popcorn* as soon as I saw the thumbnail.
@@uttermostvids631 no thats not, metal detectors send waves thru the ground and show the frequencies that bounce back. We find these tabs all the time because they can put off signals that sound like coins
Okay so there's some misunderstanding here. Aluminum foil isn't particularly heat resistant. For metal it actually melts at relatively low temperatures. something like 1200 degrees. It's heat resistant in your oven or on the grill, but that blow torch can put out 2 or even 3 times that melting temperature.
@@EternalAnkh You just need to hold it in the same spot for about 5-10 min for it to change color and he would more then likely have to go through a few tanks of fuel to still create a piss poor blade due to the poor quality of aluminium he was using. It would have been cheaper to just buy a steel rod or bar from lowes and sharpen that to a point.
@@chemislife not to mention even high quality aluminum doesn't heat treat well and heating such thin aluminum in the open air would basically destroy it.
Diamond irl needs cutting edge tech to weld, because it is the hardest matireal. Also, it would be blooming expensive, considering the rarity of irl diamond.
In his defence, his edge alignment was actually really good for someone who doesn't use a sword. The real issue is that the sword is just terrible, barely more than a wall-hanger, and the impromptu sharpening they did on it wouldn't have actually done much to help it.
@@markov3743 Literally the only problem with his attack is that he should have opted for a diagonal cut instead of a horizontal one, since that would have been simpler for him and would have been a stronger strike. That doesn't mean that the strike itself was actually bad. Edge alignment is king when you're using a sword of any kind, and if that sword were made properly, it would have easily been devastating. I'm not saying his form his good, and he obviously wouldn't do well in a fight against a real person, but that doesn't change the fact that the admittedly poor-form strike would have been more than sufficient in cutting through the weird armour and the shirt underneath quite effortlessly.
@@justiniani.4501 A better made and sharper blade would show better results even when striking, of course, but striking with a blade instead of slashing will most of the time get poor results (unless you are hitting something fragile or very thin).
Let's also remember that medieval forging techniques were inferior to modern-day forging techniques if you were to craft Knight's armor with modern-day steel forging it should be able to withstand small caliber handguns
Imagine just going on your daily jog when you see a man wielding a medieval sword swinging wildly at a headless dummy hanging from a tree covered in chain mail made out of pop tabs
He didn't weld the links together to keep them from separating, he tried forging using Aluminum which displaces heat, he swung the sword at the target like a bat causing no cutting motion and his dad provided the tools and hands on experience to make anything even remotely work.....This really feels like it should be the dads channel, he's the one who seems to know what he's actually doing XD
Not good for battle, but it looks fairly good, actually, better than the sort of silver-painted knit fabric they usually use in movies to simulate mail. Dunno if you watch Cody's Lab, but he's been wearing a mail shirt made of copper lately. This also reminded me of when I was in 3rd grade, ca. 1988, when my school collected 1 million pop tabs for some reason. I don't remember what the reason was, but it was cool to see the pile of them in the playground.
I love cody’s lab! I’ll have to go check it out. Some people apparently sell tabs online? Apparently they have higher value as craft materials than for scrap metal
@@Weisz Yeah, I would also recommend Shadiversity, Metatron or Skallagrim. People focused more on this historical warfare and HEMA stuff, as well as some practical side to the thing. Most of these know their shit when it comes to chainmail.
I know im a year late but it couldve been a fund raiser for something. My sisters in a wheelchair and abunch of people collected a shit load of tabs for her. which we can sell and it was enough money to by a wheelchair.
As someone who has been making Chain for 40 years I found this interesting. The alum foil sword needed to be compressed a heck of a lot more then you did. Also when you sharpened the edge you basically split it in half (think about it, you rolled it then weakened the seams on both sides). As for the real blade, you do not want a razor edge on the blade. A razor edge will chip and blunt on the armor making it worthless. You want more of a chisel edge to get your cut without destroying a thinner edge. That is why maces were more effective against chain, they did not get through it but they mashed everything underneath it. But from a cosplay or con sort of armor it did not look too bad. May have worked better for you if you had sewn the tabs to a leather backing making a scale mail out of them. Would have been denser and the leather would have held it together better.
I've made chain mail using metal wire coat hangers. It turned out to be very durable. I am blown away that the pop tab chain mail had any sort of defense to it at all! I wouldn't want to wear it into battle but it's certainly better than nothing.
Real chainmail that was used in real combat was mostly riveted together so they don't split. I suggest doing this experiment again and instead of just budding your links together, I suggest soldering them so they stay closed.
@@newCoCoY6 Historical chainmail would often be riveted to close the gaps. They also wouldn't cut every ring, since you can link several uncut rings onto a single cut ring and thus reduce the number of weaker cut rings in your armor.
For Larping, I would say no for fantasy as it is made of poptops and looks "modern" or for a post-apocalyptic maybe. Some Larps require that armor be made out of materials that would actually protect you ie steel, leather, etc. as shown in vid this type of armor does not give much protection.
@@mikegolden3021 Really depends on the level of larping that you’re doing. One where you’re grabbing whatever you can to make a costume and where your weapons are foam, this would be more than enough and I think everyone involved would simply be impressed you made something like this. Of course if you’re actually fighting with weapons or involved in a more in-depth larp session where people are spending good money on actual fitted armor, then yea this is going to look super out of place and depending on whether you’re dealing with actual weapons may be unsafe. Just depends on the circumstance really.
Unriveted mail was (according to many sources) also used historically and looks good enough, and as far as materials go, steel rings made from wire are not much more expensive. What is expensive is work that needs to be done. I know some people from knight brotherhoods who used unriveted mail simply because it was easier to both made and also repair on the spot, and they were good enough protection. I don't know if it was done historically (but there is huge chance some people did) but they also liked to attach some brass or even copper rings to some parts to make it look better.
The proper term for this type of armour is mail. It was never called chain mail back in the day. I think the most impressive thing in this video was the patience you had for making this piece of armour!
5:00 it sounds like you're having issues because the sword is made out of crappy steel that isn't consistently hardened. btw, your dad seems like a pretty cool guy
I mean, the chainmail disassembled on impact on the upward strike for the same reason that it was easy to assbemble on a table. There's nothing really holding the links together, so if enough pressure is put on one side of the pop tab, it should theoretically unclip from the one before it.
@@theslamjamfrincisco2820 That would be expensive though (most people don't have a spotwelder). Soldering might be a worthwhile upgrade (even if you don't know anyone, that you could borrow one from, you can just buy a cheap one), obviously it wouldn't be nearly as good as riveted or welded mail, but better than butted mail and not much more expensive than butted/a lot cheaper than riveted/welded. Edit: also keep in mind, this is cheap rolled sheet aluminum.
thanks I was only at the start of the video. I don't think I can expect anything good from the swords and his techniques now. Not expecting something like skallagrim but something like demoranch.
That knife sharpener isn't really good for sharpening anything. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend using it on a dollar store knife. It just rips metal off of the blade, and doesn't really make an edge.
thats literally how you make an edge, you aren't flattening it back down to an edge, you're shaving it back down to an edge. A stone is still better for that though
One practical use i can think of for it: Aluminium pop tap chainmal would be super light. You could wear it over a shirt, but under a gambeson for extra protection. Id like to see how it would perform if it was riveted though.
Those draw through sharpeners are kinda ok at sharpening the existing edge on a blade. What you're trying to do is create a cutting edge on a blade that doesn't have one at all. They can't do that.
@@henrikaugustsson4041yeah.. they really just mess up the blade in a way that makes it temporarily sharper, nothing like a proper sharpening. they really just tear up your edge. if you see what they do under a microscope, it’s pretty bad.
On top of being a softer material, the way pop tab chainmail is assembled classifies it as butted mail, meaning the only thing holding the rings together is the strength of the ring (and aluminium is not strong). Even against steel mail, if it's only butted, it can be stabbed through with enough force. Riveted mail is when the rings are closed again after being joined and makes it far, far stronger against stabs and cuts.
Nice! Although I think the slash more likely “disassembled” the mail rather than cutting through. If the tabs were connected, then the cuts welded or fused shut somehow, probably would withstand a couple more slashes
I agree with your point it would've been stronger welded however a proper sword and an experienced user would probably be able to cut that target in half in one good cut , it's not very common knowledge anymore how much the user has to do with how much damage a sword cut will achieve. Constant edge alignment makes a huge difference as you can see with that second cut even with a blunt sword doing way more damage than the first one
9:31 The people in the background: "Oh shit, is that a guy with a sword?!?!" "Just keep running, honey, and don't make eye contact. If he asks for your wallet, just drop it and run. Drop it and run!"
its a good project, but seems to be intensive on labor (probably took 2-8 hours to put the tabs together, plus the hours cutting the tabs, idk how long that would take though as its much faster, just a bit annoying and messing up on a cut would make it more difficult to put the tabs together)
I was thinking that it is illegal in my country to bring a sword in public, let alone swinging it. But then I realized the video was filmed in a place where people can hold a gun in public.
I mean there also isnt technically a rule to "relocate" your school to next door so there is no more drives to it but.. Nobody want to do that lol I'm jk BTW XD
I remember as a kid starting to collect some pop tabs to eventually make some chain mail with my friend... Thank you so much for recreating my childhood imagination!
hol horse, gone but never forgotten, Diavolo, er, when will he *TRULY* die? I don't think Giorno knows. I know it's an infinite death loop but, he can truly die once... right??
just wanna take a sec to remind everyone that i made this video on a budget of like $80 when I only had 2500 subscribers... so like, i tried my best.
That said, clearly a lot of you are passionate about this topic & there's a ton of room for improvement -- do you want me to do a follow-up?
I thought it was great fun, I'm so glad you shared it :)
Yeah bud, do a remake.
Let's do again! But this time, make the dude wear a thick jacket or gambeson cause chainmail was often worn with padded clothing to act as a sponge for hits, protecting both the user and the mail while the mail stopped sharp objects from slashing.
I'd like to see a follow-up, but in this new version try to use proper cutting movements (there's a couple tutorials on TH-cam) instead of swinging it like a bat and u will get a much better result
You definitely should do a some research on swords and chain mail and do a follow up video
Historical fact: No one wearing pop tab chainmail in the middle ages was ever killed by a sword.
I-... I GUESS
hol' up it do be the truth doe
I mean, you are right, yeah, that would... yeah, that's true
@Gary Stu BUT I-
jk btw
@Gary Stu yeah, that was the whole point of the joke
"Hank no one is going to buy your pop tabs, just throw them away"
"Just you wait honey"
/okay but this is unironically hilarious to me because my great-uncle invented pop tabs lmfaaoo/
@@alexfraze12087 fr
@@azureblaze7956 Yeah, Ermal Fraze haha, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermal_C._Fraze
@@alexfraze12087 oh shit lol
@@alexfraze12087 that's cool
To be perfectly honest that diy chainmail looks good enough for a cosplay without being too expensive
It's kind of a hassle tho
@Dat Boii not "time cheap" though
@@NoxxeRArt that’s just how it be. making your own cosplays is never ”time cheap”
@@ssr8555 i totally agree
@@ssr8555 👌 true. Beside that chain mail even made from aluminum from caps I think did good tbh.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how his dad helps him through out this entire video and literaly goes through the pain of bending and cutting the pop tab
His dad lowkey insulted his hand strength. Based.
Honestly it’s not very hard to bend them in my Opinion and I have the arm strength of a noodle
@@Sand_eater123 yes, but it takes alot of time and it kind of puts pressure on your fingers ig
I love that we live in an age where we can just get swords shipped to us
The downside is that swords in these modern years are basically useless
@@elbinopaper4629 yeah, well maybe not in countries where guns are banned
@@elbinopaper4629 yeah but it's still cool to just have a sword
Or you can cheaply get steel suitable for making knives & swords.
(Automotive springs, leaf springs are best, coil springs can work with more sweat investment.)
@@elbinopaper4629 i mean it's obsolescent, but it'll still hack just as good as it did in A.D. 1066
"Not dead, but wounded" I think you're forgetting this was at a time when "wounded" either meant dead or crippled for life
That is what we’re told isn’t it.
a good sword, wielded by someone who actually knows what to do would also have made a big difference...
Tis but a scratch
@@JDKDKDLDKDKDKDKKKDERYY Dude the sword was trash quality
@@pandapics3068 thats what i said
“Mom can we get chain mail?”
“No we have chain mail at home”
*the chainmail at home*
To be fair the pop tabs are quite abit thicker and more covering per tab than usual chainmail, while not as protective against stabs for slashes I'd say it actually holds up pretty solidly.
@@taylenseeley6188maybe if ur talking about butted mail which can litteraly be ripped apart but propper riveted stuff ohhh soooo goood
Tbh if I had this at home it’d still be pretty cool lol
@@fuzzystudiosofficial good point
Good for cosplays I guess :p
Mom can we get dagger?
No, we have dagger at home.
[Dagger at home]: *[Aluminum foil]*
What most people always forget about mail armor is that although it stops blades from penetrating, your body is still absorbing the kinetic energy, so a sword blow to the torso like that is still going to hurt. A lot. And possibly cause internal damage.
That's what a gambeson is designed to mitigate.
I've tested a bit, a Mail without gambeson provides 80% of blunt pain. But plate armor is light and mitigates kinetic energy even without pad like gambeson.
Go for a Gambeson under mail and plate. Full form fitted plate was unreasonable for anyone but the wealthiest.
If you don't have form fitted, you definitely want that Gambeson for two reasons... it provides straps and anchor points for your mail and plate to sit right with weight distribution, it allowed you to breathe under the armor and acted like a sweat wick. It prevented armor bite from where plates interlock or meet. And it did a lot to mitigate the impact as it was more than just cloth and padding like most hobbyists make. It was usually some form of semi rigid fiber like horsehair or flax between an outer layer of compressed and glued felt, linen, or wool layers or layered heavy canvas and an inner one of felt or similar wicking material. The Chain dissipates the impact, and if you wear it right, it will do it's job well, but the remainder still needs somewhere to go... that is the Gambeson or your fleshy bits. Your upper arms and legs can probably tank the shot under naked chain, but joints, hips, sternums, etc... really can't.
@@talyn3932under plate you don't really want gambeson but an arming doublet. It's thinner and lighter and has loops to attach the plate more securely. You don't need as much padding under plate and it gets hotter because it's not breathable like mail.
Not sure that is true at all. Those that don’t know, simply don’t care, and have never known (or forgotten) and those that did know, still know.😂
mom: hey son, why don’t you go play with the neighbors kid at the park?
the neighbors kid at the park:
*_Pretty cool innit?_*
69 likes I ain't changing it
@@ScubaShark--8964 the naybuss kid is rava bit cringe innit bruv
@@triatanstopmotions4157 *_Dats quoight roight mate._*
the kid is probably the popular kid, like i can see a lot of kids wanting to see another kid making armor
Your dad looks like 2 things:
The daddest dad looking dad.
The chillest dude ever.
Great video, loved it.
My dad is fatty muscles,he fat but damn boe his arms thicc,1 punch from him and they already try to stop him
My dad is racy racecar driver... was... 20 years ago... for like one season... and sucked because he couldn’t afford the fancy equipment other teams were running. Placed third once. I look up to him.
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 yo men condolences you (eng is not my first language). Thank you for sharing, he looks like a great human, and for sure he is
kuro do wdym wait did he die??
@@Bilallakho_ he said was, and whole reply is made like this.
"This is the aluminum sword that I made out of tinfoil" - Louis Weisz, alchemist.
Big brain
Its an aluminum tinfoil
@@zenithchan1646 tinfoil isn't just a name for super thin sheets of metal. Tin is a type of metal different from aluminum. Foil of this type hasn't commonly been made of tin since around World War 2. But people still call it that. That's the joke.
God Christ Jesus bless you all and have a wonderful day my family
This is one of the funniest things I've seen in awhile to be honest.
medieval maille was also (usually) riveted together, not just "butted" together (just open rings pushed together) like most replica/costume maille you see for sale today. Alternating rows would be solid rings and riveted rings. So not only were they stronger because of the material but also how it was fastened together
Moat medieval mail was all riveted. The alternating riveted and solid was more a roman thing
He could achieved a similar effect had he spot welded the rings where the breaks were, surely? Obviously not as strong as actual rivets, but better than just butting.
@@DhalinIt would be an improvement, but aluminum welds are still be weak spots due to the nature of welded aluminum.
The Japanese would use butted rings and use riveted in the most stress prone spots
The less funded armorsmiths in Europe would probably have done the same
Before i watch, if this mans tests stabs and not slashes ima be dissapointed
Edit: alright your good
I appreciate your approval
@@Weisz :D
if anything i'd be more disappointed if he tested slashes only
I mean i was mostly hacks if you ask me but its still amazing
but you can expect a slash to be ineffective against any armor you gotta stab to really test the armor to its fullest
Him: knows how to craft chainmail armor
*Steve wants to know your coordinates*
Lol
Yes
i fucking knew theres gonna be ATLEAST one or two minecrafters.
they stole the recipe from area 51!!!1!1!1!!1!11!!
@@kapa_nitori Villagers: *AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*
@@naomigwolfe8112 *yes*
I imagine his dad as a teenager, not knowing he would sharpen a medieval sword for his future son
b-but it's not a medieval sword in any respect! It is a modern model made with modern technology from modern steel!
Technically, it's a 21st-century Chinese sword.
@@laierr stereotypes, dude
I cant imagine his dad as a teenager ever imagined a world where he was not sharpening swords for his future son..
This is so wholesome. Also makes me miss my dad.
@@niftylittlenamesatire humor much ?
I used to make chains as a teenager from these, as part of metalhead and punk culture thingy. There is a trick to make them strong and I'd say it would improve your chainmail resistance.
You cut the top of the pop, making it super easy for the mail to unbind even by pulling on it hard. If you cut the thick lower part at an sharp angle, it would lower the chance it will break or unbind. Was using my chain as a dog leash for example .
🤨
Soldier: hey dude the mongols are going to attack again, what should we do
The other soldier: Ok weird story, so I have this foil and a truck of coke
Soldier: Coke!?
@@michaelm.9506 not the good kind, the drink
Soldier: what's a truck?
@@Ryanator1107Yea thats what i meant ofc pepe head
@@michaelm.9506 cocaine or coke
When your tee-shirt is stronger than chainmail...
It's not even proper chainmail. Real Medevevil Chainmail was riveted steel rings. Which were extremely effective.
@@Starfleet8555 yes, that stuff is battered( or butted, depending on how you like to say it)
tshirt
Barny
Historically accurate, honestly. Chainmail is way less effective without thick gambeson behind it.
As a knife Maker, that sharpening part made me hurt physically
I was told in my Ag class that you shouldn't use metal on a belt/disc sander. Is this right?
@@isaacpirtle2689 no, you can grind metal on those. There are sanders designed for steel or wood but if it's not a specific machine it should grind almost anything with the right belt
"It will be sharp in one section of the blade but in a different section it won't be sharp at all i'm not sure why" smh
I just use a whet stone. Granted it’s best used for knives, so a sword wouldn’t do a whole lot but yeah…
How are you suppose to do it?
It is badass that your father took this time with you. Never take it for granted!
seeing him swing the sword like a baseball bat is killing me
LOL What I posted before seeing your comment >>> Keeps using the word slice while swinging a sword like a baseball bat, should have started with learning to swing a sword
America
I was like "YOU'RE GONNA DO MORE BLUNT TRUAMA THEN SLASHING"
well if he was slashing you, yes it would be killing you (pls dont kill me)
@@legalizenuclearweaponsong Deep breath in…. Deep breath out…. Deep breath in…
Rant incoming
Well yes but actually no
"it's a real sword" Shadiversity, Skallagrim and Metatron wants to know your location
Well it was atleast solid metal and the blade was actually properly oriented cough cough
Yeah, and as for the edge, well, first time so cut them some slack. But I have to wonder how many blows skallagrim could get through that with using his falchion. I bet it would only take one slash.
@@pandorasboxofcatvideos5892 yeah. The youtubers swings were poor as well. He was more smacking the chainmail than slashing it. Still an interesting video though. You can tell he put a lot of time into it.
Also real midevil/ renaissance swords would be blunt and they would just go with enough power to knockout/ kill someone from force, and they would stab to try and break the chainmail
@@thefox7909 medieval swords werent dull they were sharp like modern swords. To learn more i recommend shadiversity
The TH-cam algorithm has not been kind to you
SCREW TH-cam algorithm, and our Russian MIMIC hardwired program can make mince meat of all American ISPs software and algorithm.
LMAO
Give it 10 years
@Red Dunkey mince meat is the british term for ground beef i think
Little Brother facts tho - just means i have to be around to see it
as a blacksmith and an armorer, i've done my fair share of shoddy makeshift projects but man is this another level. doesn't look bad but this is the peak of form over function.
Make certain these are historically accurate pop tabs, pulled from historically accurate soda cans, to ensure that authentic feel. And fresh taste.
Refreshing!
If your authentic medieval soda is, ahem, fresh, I don't know how to tell you this bub, but I may have some bad news for you...
@@The_Rising_Dragon Don't you know? It keeps for centuries! Look at the wine!
Mid evil soder
Summary:
Louis: This is not working
Dad: *Comes and solves the problem*
This is Healthy Masculinity tbh.
Perfect post-apocalypse medium armor for all of your low-level character needs.
As a Dark souls player i found that funny
Ulye
Yes
I wheezed
A can of cola now Gives you money AND materials if you drink it
As a reenactor (actually former safety officer and former combat instructor of my old group), I found myself *reaching for the popcorn* as soon as I saw the thumbnail.
Dad: You better make enough off this video to pay me at least minimum wage.
Nice pfp
@Just Memin I thought you were being an asshole until I read it again.
@Just Memin I just realised the name of the parent comment OP
Cool, but, read your name.
(This was a joke)
@Just Memin Cool, but, *Noone Cares*
Imagine in the future, some random guy metal detecting in the park, finding a bunch of pop tabs just wondering how they got there 😂😂
pop taps are nothing special in a park?
@@RosiAT12 he meant in large amounts
well hopefully cleaned them up
Aluminum isn't magnetic and that's how metal detectors work?
@@uttermostvids631 no thats not, metal detectors send waves thru the ground and show the frequencies that bounce back. We find these tabs all the time because they can put off signals that sound like coins
"Can a pop tab chainmail armor protect you from a sword?"
Can a paper-mache bomb shelter protect me from a hydrogen bomb?
I mean, if you had enough paper...
I dont think all the paper in the world can protect you from a Hydrogen Bomb
@@unknownnnn7959 but what if you have more
Lol
@@unknownnnn7959 Depends how big the bomb is, besides lot's of things survive being bombed.
1:48 aw. Your dad's helping you. That's nice
Louis: **attempts to “forge” foil with heat**
Aluminum foil: **is heat resistant**
Louis: °o°
They didn’t thought that far.
Forgot that aluminum foil is meant to be heat resistant, XD
Okay so there's some misunderstanding here. Aluminum foil isn't particularly heat resistant. For metal it actually melts at relatively low temperatures. something like 1200 degrees. It's heat resistant in your oven or on the grill, but that blow torch can put out 2 or even 3 times that melting temperature.
@@EternalAnkh You just need to hold it in the same spot for about 5-10 min for it to change color and he would more then likely have to go through a few tanks of fuel to still create a piss poor blade due to the poor quality of aluminium he was using. It would have been cheaper to just buy a steel rod or bar from lowes and sharpen that to a point.
@@chemislife not to mention even high quality aluminum doesn't heat treat well and heating such thin aluminum in the open air would basically destroy it.
@@EternalAnkh Im wondering if it would have been better to melt down a copper pipe then use Al as a knife in the first place
If you watch closely, you can see he lagged when entering this weird RPG's pvp server at 7:38
Soo true
I sen't kids along
dude he's hackin'
Only true gamers know this...
He glitches the matrix
I feel like everyone at the park was like, "WTF is wrong with that man's piñata?!"
Mark Hemster is Parker Floester
Yes
Yes indeed
Yeah not the fact that he has a sword out
@@JonahWoods Oh and maybe that too XD
Literally the best part of this video is how much you dad is willing to help you with this video
Just use diamond armor it’s a lot more stronger then chainmail.
What about netherite?
@@HypedG his next episode „today I make a portal to hell and trade with pig-hell creatures“
Tungsten
@@HypedG well, its easy. Just make a big square made out of obsidian and light the center on fire.
Diamond irl needs cutting edge tech to weld, because it is the hardest matireal. Also, it would be blooming expensive, considering the rarity of irl diamond.
Girls: *"Why do we live longer? That's so weird."*
Boys:
Because We do stupid things and get heart disease often.
And we have to do the girls bidding once we get married.
@@darthporg9859 ooooo
Its not my fault that the emperor lusts for gold. I'm just a lowly peasant.
Becasue men are more active and work more on average. Also height matters.
Funny thing is by "forging" the aluminum sword with the blow torch he just annealed it and made it softer 😂
lol xD
well i do think that the tin foil comes annealed in the box. for it to be softer but idk
@@Fransenn working it cold would work harden it.
It wasn’t a sword, it was a poorly made shank.
Nathen The icewing damn
I think its extremely adorable how your dad is helping you with this. What a great, supportive dad!!!
"Can't put an edge on foil"
Kiwami Japan would like to know your location
That guy could sharpen my mind.
That man literally put an edge to underwear
Once I heard “make a sword out of aluminum” I looked for this comment
I’m sad it’s underrated
Plot twist: if you want to survive getting hit by a sword, wear *black t-shirt* instead
*RACIST*
jk lol
It won’t help against police
Wear several layers of linen shirts: and call it a Gambeson.
@@kase1001 Police wear black shirts tho
He's using the sword like it has a blunt edge. Rather than slashing
In his defence, his edge alignment was actually really good for someone who doesn't use a sword. The real issue is that the sword is just terrible, barely more than a wall-hanger, and the impromptu sharpening they did on it wouldn't have actually done much to help it.
@@justiniani.4501 He's still striking instead of slashing
@@markov3743 Literally the only problem with his attack is that he should have opted for a diagonal cut instead of a horizontal one, since that would have been simpler for him and would have been a stronger strike. That doesn't mean that the strike itself was actually bad. Edge alignment is king when you're using a sword of any kind, and if that sword were made properly, it would have easily been devastating. I'm not saying his form his good, and he obviously wouldn't do well in a fight against a real person, but that doesn't change the fact that the admittedly poor-form strike would have been more than sufficient in cutting through the weird armour and the shirt underneath quite effortlessly.
@@justiniani.4501 A better made and sharper blade would show better results even when striking, of course, but striking with a blade instead of slashing will most of the time get poor results (unless you are hitting something fragile or very thin).
@@markov3743 What exactly do you mean by striking and what do you mean by slashing?
Let's also remember that medieval forging techniques were inferior to modern-day forging techniques if you were to craft Knight's armor with modern-day steel forging it should be able to withstand small caliber handguns
It hurts seeing someone swing a short sword like a baseball bat
That's an arming sword at least or a bastard sword although it seems a little short for it
@@themanthemyth4522 yeah
I'd say it's an arming sword, but then again it hurts seeing someone swing any sword like a badeball bat lol
Dang, how are you supposed to swing it?
@@nellguy4828 you don’t bring your sword up to your shoulder it’s suppose to be versatile that’s not a two handed sword either
Better title: forged in fire but extremely cheap
Lies are better than Leis
Forged in residential garage
"Forged in Matchstick"
@@tandorgamash nice
@@Tyborz or a aluminium foil hitting a hammer with a non skilled dude
Imagine just going on your daily jog when you see a man wielding a medieval sword swinging wildly at a headless dummy hanging from a tree covered in chain mail made out of pop tabs
700 years ago this would have been a common occurrence lol
I'd probably just shake my head and mutter about crackheads.
He didn't weld the links together to keep them from separating, he tried forging using Aluminum which displaces heat, he swung the sword at the target like a bat causing no cutting motion and his dad provided the tools and hands on experience to make anything even remotely work.....This really feels like it should be the dads channel, he's the one who seems to know what he's actually doing XD
Not good for battle, but it looks fairly good, actually, better than the sort of silver-painted knit fabric they usually use in movies to simulate mail. Dunno if you watch Cody's Lab, but he's been wearing a mail shirt made of copper lately.
This also reminded me of when I was in 3rd grade, ca. 1988, when my school collected 1 million pop tabs for some reason. I don't remember what the reason was, but it was cool to see the pile of them in the playground.
I love cody’s lab! I’ll have to go check it out.
Some people apparently sell tabs online? Apparently they have higher value as craft materials than for scrap metal
It'd be perfect for ren faire as long as you don't sign up for "fight a knight"
I remember a collection like that, I think it was a charity for Saint Jude's Children's Hospital or something similar.
@@Weisz Yeah, I would also recommend Shadiversity, Metatron or Skallagrim. People focused more on this historical warfare and HEMA stuff, as well as some practical side to the thing. Most of these know their shit when it comes to chainmail.
I know im a year late but it couldve been a fund raiser for something. My sisters in a wheelchair and abunch of people collected a shit load of tabs for her. which we can sell and it was enough money to by a wheelchair.
As someone who has been making Chain for 40 years I found this interesting. The alum foil sword needed to be compressed a heck of a lot more then you did. Also when you sharpened the edge you basically split it in half (think about it, you rolled it then weakened the seams on both sides). As for the real blade, you do not want a razor edge on the blade. A razor edge will chip and blunt on the armor making it worthless. You want more of a chisel edge to get your cut without destroying a thinner edge. That is why maces were more effective against chain, they did not get through it but they mashed everything underneath it.
But from a cosplay or con sort of armor it did not look too bad. May have worked better for you if you had sewn the tabs to a leather backing making a scale mail out of them. Would have been denser and the leather would have held it together better.
Do you have a place I can purchase your chainmail?
@@The_Nailsmith Unless you are at Midrealm SCA events unfortunatly not. Used to do the Mich Ren Fair 30 years ago but do not get out much anymore.
@@shadowcat3163 do u just wear leather under it or somehow connect it to it? And if so how would u go about that?
@@ethang.8238 It is a T-shirt basically that is made of steel. Just wear it over a padded Gambeson {robe) for extra protection.
@@ethang.8238 it's a big shirt you put it on and wear a belt around it to spread the weight more evenly
Why did i read this as “Would you survive a cannibal attack”
Probably because it sounds like something they would do
You're dyslexic probably
Holy. . . Shit
Thats brilhant
Lmao same
Bigger question is why did this kind of comment get so many likes?
I've made chain mail using metal wire coat hangers. It turned out to be very durable. I am blown away that the pop tab chain mail had any sort of defense to it at all! I wouldn't want to wear it into battle but it's certainly better than nothing.
Real chainmail that was used in real combat was mostly riveted together so they don't split. I suggest doing this experiment again and instead of just budding your links together, I suggest soldering them so they stay closed.
Soldering aluminium is a lot harder then you might think.
lmao that would take days
@@zachdemand4508 *than
@@tronche2cake
It must be a really sad existence to have the need to correct people's grammar in a youtube comment thread.
@@zachdemand4508 Yes, but if I don't, nobody will and everyone will keep making spelling mistakes.
6:55 the dad burns himself touching the tip right after grinding the tip
lol
XD
Yes
It isn't one clip. The part were he touches it takes place later then the grinding
As a blacksmith myself
That shit happens alot
I think this would be perfect for cosplay purposes and maybe even larping. It’s cheap enough to make and not that difficult from the looks of it
maybe even just superglue the cut area after connecting everything.
@@newCoCoY6 Historical chainmail would often be riveted to close the gaps. They also wouldn't cut every ring, since you can link several uncut rings onto a single cut ring and thus reduce the number of weaker cut rings in your armor.
For Larping, I would say no for fantasy as it is made of poptops and looks "modern" or for a post-apocalyptic maybe. Some Larps require that armor be made out of materials that would actually protect you ie steel, leather, etc. as shown in vid this type of armor does not give much protection.
@@mikegolden3021 Really depends on the level of larping that you’re doing. One where you’re grabbing whatever you can to make a costume and where your weapons are foam, this would be more than enough and I think everyone involved would simply be impressed you made something like this.
Of course if you’re actually fighting with weapons or involved in a more in-depth larp session where people are spending good money on actual fitted armor, then yea this is going to look super out of place and depending on whether you’re dealing with actual weapons may be unsafe.
Just depends on the circumstance really.
Unriveted mail was (according to many sources) also used historically and looks good enough, and as far as materials go, steel rings made from wire are not much more expensive. What is expensive is work that needs to be done.
I know some people from knight brotherhoods who used unriveted mail simply because it was easier to both made and also repair on the spot, and they were good enough protection. I don't know if it was done historically (but there is huge chance some people did) but they also liked to attach some brass or even copper rings to some parts to make it look better.
The proper term for this type of armour is mail. It was never called chain mail back in the day. I think the most impressive thing in this video was the patience you had for making this piece of armour!
"You can't really put an edge on tinfoil"
*laughs in Kiwami Japan
Thinking the same thing:
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@@mikeharris1987
yeah the same thing:
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@@multatuli1 I know that URL.
*laughs in how many times I got a paper cut but metal with them*
I'm with DonutOperator. That freezer has seen more hookers through it than a holding cell in Vegas
5:00 it sounds like you're having issues because the sword is made out of crappy steel that isn't consistently hardened.
btw, your dad seems like a pretty cool guy
I was thinking poor edge geometry, but it might be a combination, given the look of this thing
He is using the same sharpening geometry for two entirely different widths. It has nothing to do with the quality of the steel.
He should really be using a sharpening stone not a kitchen knife sharpener made for a 3mm thick blade
Damn u guys would make sick blacksmiths
The sword he's using is designed for hema.
I love that at your age, your Dad is still helping you. That's actually awesome.
I love how there are just people jogging in the background while you are stabbing a dummy with a giant sword 😂
I mean, the chainmail disassembled on impact on the upward strike for the same reason that it was easy to assbemble on a table. There's nothing really holding the links together, so if enough pressure is put on one side of the pop tab, it should theoretically unclip from the one before it.
Super glue should have sorted it out.
@@henriqueribeiro8167 absolutely not it needs a metal connection real mail was riveted rings.
@@Reaniman99 yeah you’d need to spotweld it at least
@@theslamjamfrincisco2820 That would be expensive though (most people don't have a spotwelder).
Soldering might be a worthwhile upgrade (even if you don't know anyone, that you could borrow one from, you can just buy a cheap one), obviously it wouldn't be nearly as good as riveted or welded mail, but better than butted mail and not much more expensive than butted/a lot cheaper than riveted/welded.
Edit: also keep in mind, this is cheap rolled sheet aluminum.
"Mommy what is that man doing?"
"He's just practicing to travel back in time for a sword fight"
Tiara Reih Mequiota In a world when people make armour out of pop caps and sword out of aluminum.
Have you seen ammo prices lately?? Better get a sword.
"He's trying to be Kirito, deflecting bullets with the sword"
imagine just seeing a man with a sword and knife, slashing at a dummy wearing pop tab chainmail in your local park
I love that you just did this in your local park like “this is my job people, mind your business..”
wait people don't do this in their local park
I mean, if he's in Texas, it's perfectly legal to open carry a sword. No really, it is!
@@cooltrainervaultboy-39 always either Texas or Florida
Doesn't rivet the links and creates a hole in all of them
"These are crimes against armor making that I cannot forgive."
As an italian philosopher once said: "Butted mail, don't work"
must be budget constraints or something. Maybe he coulda superglued the cuts he made, or maybe welded it?
@@1512125 tempered butted maile: bruh
thanks I was only at the start of the video. I don't think I can expect anything good from the swords and his techniques now. Not expecting something like skallagrim but something like demoranch.
@@someonestolemyname i understood those references, and you right
That knife sharpener isn't really good for sharpening anything. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend using it on a dollar store knife. It just rips metal off of the blade, and doesn't really make an edge.
A stone is better :v
Its fine if you know how to use it, I can make razor sharp edge with that sharpener.
thats literally how you make an edge, you aren't flattening it back down to an edge, you're shaving it back down to an edge. A stone is still better for that though
Project Farm tested that and it outperformed every other sharpener
th-cam.com/video/KBINMUdlJ14/w-d-xo.html
It was tested and outperformed all the other ones lmao
One practical use i can think of for it:
Aluminium pop tap chainmal would be super light. You could wear it over a shirt, but under a gambeson for extra protection. Id like to see how it would perform if it was riveted though.
Him: makes chainmail armor
Steve: noted
wait that's illegal
@@captainblastem9095 mods: now it isn’t
lol
Those draw through sharpeners are kinda ok at sharpening the existing edge on a blade. What you're trying to do is create a cutting edge on a blade that doesn't have one at all. They can't do that.
I mean... Maybe with some extreme effort it's technically possible? Emphasis on the technically part, still a terrible idea.
They can barely do what they’re designed for. It’s better to learn how to do it properly.
@@henrikaugustsson4041yeah.. they really just mess up the blade in a way that makes it temporarily sharper, nothing like a proper sharpening. they really just tear up your edge. if you see what they do under a microscope, it’s pretty bad.
“The aluminum sword I made from tin foil”
Hol up aren’t aluminum and tin different metals?
@@kingwolf9447 dude aluminum is an element
@@Zokalex so is Tin
@@sighduck9789 all metals are
@@HatcheDWheeL Bronze and Steel aren't.
@@sighduck9789 those are alloys
This is why you want chainmail for a zombie apocalypse.
I love how he's just out in a park with people walking by lol
Sword: *reaches opponent's spine*
Guy: "well, that is quite a bit"
10:24
He is now dead or disabled.
The opponent I mean
Sorry i thought you meant the attacker
tis but a scratch
Dad: “it seems like that sorta thing that’ll give you carpal tunnel” 😂
haha legos go **BRRRRRRRRRRRR**
@Jack Kanoff lol k
I think we know who stepped on a Lego
@Jack Kanoff lol, who hurt you?
On top of being a softer material, the way pop tab chainmail is assembled classifies it as butted mail, meaning the only thing holding the rings together is the strength of the ring (and aluminium is not strong). Even against steel mail, if it's only butted, it can be stabbed through with enough force. Riveted mail is when the rings are closed again after being joined and makes it far, far stronger against stabs and cuts.
Nice! Although I think the slash more likely “disassembled” the mail rather than cutting through. If the tabs were connected, then the cuts welded or fused shut somehow, probably would withstand a couple more slashes
Even actual steel links would do about as well as these if they weren't welded or riveted like real mail.
I agree with your point it would've been stronger welded however a proper sword and an experienced user would probably be able to cut that target in half in one good cut , it's not very common knowledge anymore how much the user has to do with how much damage a sword cut will achieve. Constant edge alignment makes a huge difference as you can see with that second cut even with a blunt sword doing way more damage than the first one
9:31 The people in the background:
"Oh shit, is that a guy with a sword?!?!"
"Just keep running, honey, and don't make eye contact. If he asks for your wallet, just drop it and run. Drop it and run!"
just. get. my. like.
Even if it can't save you from a swordfight, it still looks decent, so for cosplay this can be a really good option
The red shirt, shades, light hair and swords makes him look like he's cosplaying Dave Strider.
This armor is like:
Cutting damage: +10
Impact damage: -10
Mobility +5
Coolness +10
@@NuclearRaven13 -50* it makes you look like a clown. Just use real mail its not that expensive and even shitty mail looks better than that
@@someguyfromfinland4239 shut up
@@99brexit no
Alternate title: Wholesome dad helps with medieval science project
its a good project, but seems to be intensive on labor (probably took 2-8 hours to put the tabs together, plus the hours cutting the tabs, idk how long that would take though as its much faster, just a bit annoying and messing up on a cut would make it more difficult to put the tabs together)
im feeling this is gonna get recommended to people soon
Edit: i know its happened stop commenting about it
Just now
And now
it was
It's here
Yep
I was thinking that it is illegal in my country to bring a sword in public, let alone swinging it. But then I realized the video was filmed in a place where people can hold a gun in public.
He’s swinging it like a baseball bat😭. He’s many things,a man of martial prowess is not one of those things.
I'd like to see him use a gladius XD
He'd probably try to slash with it, not thrust
"Your martial prowess, will not kill" 😂
@@superduperalex5248 Your reference to Forged in Fire, will kill.
as a swordsmen I have many complaints of how hes using that lol
@@Fred_the_1996 the gladius wasn't an exclusive stabbing sword.
Ima were this to school, "TECHNICALLY" there's no rule about not wearing armor. .
I mean there also isnt technically a rule to "relocate" your school to next door so there is no more drives to it but.. Nobody want to do that lol
I'm jk BTW XD
“were this to school”
@@theironglitch9268 lol ikr wrong "were" but alright lol
No hate btw
@@naomigwolfe8112 Are you Japanese
@@prav2568 no why?
"9 inches"
*sticks two fingers in the hole*
Oh my.
10:35 0-0
My middle finger is 6 or 7
@@Seiki-San your capping
Dude the dad saying "This seems like the thing that would give you carpal tunnel" is such a dad thing made me laugh so hard.
I see this, and my first thought was Shad and Metatron facepalming XD
Yup
Funny, I was watching Shad's video on the Spiked Pavise when I saw this in the watch list.
I was waiting for the line: "Your sword sir.... it will keel."
8:08 "We have experienced catastrophic blade failure and so cannot continue testing."
@@malenixius that being said, you're not out of the game yet. your opponent's weapon still has to survive at least 3 hits.
Arthur Paul was dumb during school
"Now that's sharp as a sharp thing"
Such a my dad line hahaha
“That sort of thing seems like what would give you carpal tunnel”
Thats wisdom
I remember as a kid starting to collect some pop tabs to eventually make some chain mail with my friend... Thank you so much for recreating my childhood imagination!
same
@@DanteDMCry34 same
"this seems like the sort of thing thats gonna give you carpal tunnel" lmao
"I bought a sword so...I'm gonna spend time making one from scratch"😂
I am at the 6:40 mark and I can predict that the heavy carbon steel sword is going to cut those aluminum chainmail like butter.
"This seems like the sort of thing that will give you carpal tunnel" 🤣🤣🤣 all dads are the same
Ever do piece work.
My hand would be like a claw when I woke up.
"He owns the grinding wheel" lol man that was gold. Looks like your dad did an alright job though.
“The guns mightier then the sword”
-hol horse
Is that a JoJo reference?
nani
hol horse, gone but never forgotten, Diavolo, er, when will he *TRULY* die? I don't think Giorno knows. I know it's an infinite death loop but, he can truly die once... right??
@@Y333e no
@@smooth585 th-cam.com/video/3jabPgOnFjw/w-d-xo.html
Imagine running in the park and seeing this guy wielding a sword and slicing a mannequin that has soda can openers as the armor.