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Cody needs to send his maille to Tod Cutler and see if they can get through it with proper war arrows from a longbow. If that happened I'd be so stoked.
I'm stuck in an infinite loop now because Cody said to watch this video after his finished, and now you are telling me to watch his after yours finishes
Probably a decent bit of leather under the chain would have stopped the arrow shaft going through. The blunt force trauma from the "cannon ball" would have taken out like all the ribs though (with enough padding underneath the mail still possibly survivable?).
@@fetzie23 The shock going through the body would probably also have fractured the spine in several places. People who hit the pavement from very tall buildings look relatively fine on the outside but bones on the opposite side of the impact are still shattered.
@@fetzie23 if it is possible to make the cannonball survivable, it'd probably be pretty difficult imo, but yeah chainmail would either be worn under other armors like scale, leather or plate with a layer of padded quilt underneath if I remember correctly. All that would definitely protect against an arrow since the chainmail definitely stopped the arrow and splintered it
Also back in them days they wouldn't of had carbon fiber, so the arrow body would of been wood or metal (most likely wood), and either turned to dust or just bent, and not splintered quite like carbon does. Any wood splinters being way less sharp than a thin bit of carbon, and much easier to break apart on contact with the chainmail.
That's why there are hardly any armors rated for .50 and above. It's not that you can't stop *a* bullet of that caliber, it's that there so much energy there that even if you spread it over a plate it's still too much.
@@lgjm5562 that future is now baby, especially depending on how you slice that cake. The US military values a human like at around half a million. that is how much the family of a dead soldier receives for the death of their loved one, and in many cases its actually a little less than that. When you consider that many tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets cost into the tens of millions of dollars, the "armor" of modern soldiers is worth vastly more than the human lives opperating them! Isn't modern war and the art of calculating the worth of human life so fun!
@@cola98765Yup. People oft forget that the reason *it is a very good idea* to do strenght training and developing musculature is to protect one's _very squishy, gelatinous organs._ Too much energy and it isn't going to matter that you're still in one piece, your insides are going to drip out like water.
@@dennisturgeon7019 That is incredibly misleading. Training a pilot or special forces operator can costs millions of dollars. So the most significant monetary cost for the US military is not the payout to the family but the cost of training a replacement. And of course there are non-monetary costs like morale and public/political support. You would have to add all these up to get the value of a soldiers life as seen by the US military.
To be fair, if you were wearing 200 pounds of chainmail, you might be more likely to survive an encounter because you would collapse from exhaustion before making it to the battle
You'd have a team of 4 squires with hooks on a rope and stick similar to a fishing pole but much sturdier, to lift up your chainmail and reduce the weight you have to bear as you walk in it.
@mrkiky 4 even more encumbered dudes with less martial training, tasty. I did chuckle though, cause I can imagine some king out there actually doing that.
brother with all due respect, I hope your comment is for the funnies. An average to good quality mail hauberk (knee to upper thigh length) weighed like 30 ish pounds. Add like 7-10 pounds of padded material under it, 1-3 pounds for a good helmet with padding and maybe like a 5 pounds for a rather heavy side-arm sword, like a pretty hefty and crude Falchion. You'd still be way under the 100 pound. They're all just normal peeps under that armour, fit and trained perhaps, but not a bodybuilder for lifting contests. Modern military gear gets up into the 100-150 range and that's only for mostly short periods and we also have on-the-go troop transport quite available, not some tired squire who's barely limping behind you in battle. Sorry if I came out angsty but I literally gave my bachelors degree on armour and I'm so tired of seeing the age old myth that it's some ridiculously heavy and restricting equipment, while in fact it was made-to-fit or at least modified-to-fit to owner. Cheerios.
@balrog99-41 I have yet to see old mail that is barely able to get picked up for a 2 ft by 3 ft section. My comment was talking about how grossly heavy Cody's chainmail was, not historical accurate mail. And they totally understand that the mail he made isn't even remotely close to historical or usable.
To be fair he is almost Always this Happy. ;) the only time I saw him sad I didn't blame him as I was also sad at the passing of Grant Thompson from TKOR
@@isaiahoconnor8236 I think he has been pretty low for a long time between the breakup with Canyon and the TY monetization issues. I think he is finally getting back to normal.
@Skorpychan I know from personal experience. Long story short bmy business took a massive covid induced hit, was struggling to find other work and landed on antidepressants . Got a job even though it was only a seasonal one and was able to get off of them.
Arrow: Survived. Big bullet: Still dead, but the guy behind you survived. You may survive the impact itself, but you'd probably bleed to death afterwards. Flung machete: Survived, but you wouldn't be happy about it.
@@mrkiky The arrow shaft would be stopped by the gambeson under the mail. The machete hit HARD, so you'd probably have bruised ribs at the very least, possibly cracked.
@@Skorpychan Well, if you had gambeson as well, sure. Otherwise that splintered carbon fiber shaft would've gone deep enough to do organ damage if you're unlucky enough, and would be really nasty to dig out all of those splinters anyway.
"These might shear off, then the rest of the arrow goes through." "But I would say that's not a failure of the chainmail." Tell that to the guy with an arrow in his chest. lol
No one wears chainmail on their bare chest. You wear it over a gambeson (thick padded coat) which is a surprisingly effective type of armor. It would stop those splinters easily. Given they shot a modern-day hunting arrow, that was designed to inflict nasty wounds on elks, who, in fact, do not wear armor. Medieval war arrows were much thicker, with sold steel arrowheads. they wouldn't squeeze between those links at all.
6:22 No French Carabinier (who had received their brass gilded cuirasses in 1809) would have worn chainmail at any time, certainly not by the time of the Battle of Waterloo and not François Antoine Fauveau the poor unfortunate soul of the 2e Régiment de Carabiniers from whom this cuirass was recovered.
What I love most about this, is nobody would ever wear chainmail just bare chested ( they also would never wear chainmail this heavy) but the gambeson would definitely have stopped those arrow shaft shards from penetrating into the skin even if they were wood and not carbon fiber.
Even it it's, say, 30% lighter or more and a proper shirt, I think it's the fact that it's welded and hardened that's showing a lot of the performance. If someone hasn't done some testing on how thick you can reasonably get with welded tempered rings while still carrying the rest of your gear and fighting, they should.
The circle of life brings me back around to this channel. I unsubscribed when Dan and Mitchel stopped making videos here, completely forgot about the channel until today when I watched Cody make the chainmail. It's a nice surprise to see this channel is still going and from the sounds of it, with the phantom cameras, you're going to have lots of opportunities for some amazing videos in the close future too!
Where I work, we used EuroFlex ring mesh products. And it's incredible... YOU LITERALLY CANNOT GET STABBED! The rings are around 4.2 mm in diameter, and every single individual ring has been WELDED, which makes all the rings basically IMPOSSIBLE to just "stab" through with your most powerful blow.
In the medieval period, quality of mail was directly proportionate to how teeny tiny fine the rings were. As this video shows, mail sucks at dealing with impact so it was mainly used to mitigate laceration and stabbing.
I believe the sideways bullet was because of lack of spin allowing it to tumble. Since they justifiably aren't using a threaded metal barrel, they should be using a ball so it goes straighter and hits truer.
Here from Cody's channel. Impressed! He made the indestructible chain mail, and you have the tests, and stunning slo-mo, to prove it. Don't be surprised to hear from Ukraine. If you don't, then expect to see "their" invention on the news. I'm sure they could find 101 uses for Cody's chainmail made from chains. 💜✊
I'd like to see how it would hold up to a rondel dagger which is designed to be thrust in between links and lever them apart. You can see a similar profile in sword tips as time went one and they went for being more optimized for cutting to more optimized for thrusting.
There has been some great tests done on Tods Workshop doing historic arrows vs armour, and arrows causing damage by splintering against armour is definatelyna thing (not quite like that, though!).
I don't think it's the world's strongest chainmail. I can think of other weaves you could use that would still be practical for actual use. Just because it is thick and heavy, doesn't mean it is the strongest. Butted or riveted would be way stronger and much thinner, especially with a euro six in one weave for example. You also wouldn't want square chainmail links. You don't wear chainmail under plate, that's completely impractical. Often on transitory suits of plate you might see chainmail covering the weak spots but a full suit of chainmail would be unnecessary and problematic because of the way plate has to fit tightly to the body.
Такая история с карбоновыми стрелами случается чаще чем вы думаете. Иногда, когда лучники тренируются, стрелы могут попадать в твердые предметы и немного повреждать карбоновое древко, незаметно для стрелка. Существует не маленькая вероятность что при следующем выстреле такой стрелой даже из маломощного лука, стрела начнет расщепляться во время выстрела, и обломки древка, разойдясь в виде цветочка, войдут в руку лучника. Это ужасная травма скорее всего приведет к ампутации.
Since I see a lot of folks talking about it here, I would like to point out that no, gambesons were not commonly worn under mail. Gambesons were generally used as standalone armor. You would generally wear light undergarments under your metal armor, but it wasn't thickly padded and more so served to prevent chafing than to protect from things that got past the mail. Heat, weight and general mobility were always concerns and the average high medieval knight would be willing to accept a risk of suffering bruises or fractures when hit, if it meant they didn't slowly stew in the summer heat under their hauberks. This is actually quite visible if you look at 11th century sources like the Bayeux tapestry, where the fighters are generally drawn as very slim and wearing form-fitting hauberks and coifs. The time in which mail was the be all and end all of armor was also the time when your main defensive tool was your shield, not your armor. Your mail was a failsafe that might save your ass if you failed to stop or avoid an imcoming hit, but it wasn't expected to offer the same degree of near-invulnerability that late medieval plate could provide. Later on, as the technology developed, armor became so resilient that shields started becoming somewhat redundant, which in turn allowed knights and well-geared men-at-arms to abandon their shields in favour of using two-handed weapons which in turn became necessary to deal with heavily armored opponents. Gambesons on the other hand were more of an alternative to mail, for people who either favoured a lighter option or who couldn't afford mail.
Don't forget the chainmail would be worn over a gambeson, a quilted and padded jacket, that would provide more protection. A gambeson's multiple layers of quilted fabric provided a surprising level of protection.
you need a shot cup to support the wadding and prevent it from blowing by. try stuffing wadding-> soda can-> projectile and I bet your velocity will go way up
Cody I bought 6 gauge copper wire and made a similar chainmail to your chain mail wrapping the wire around a 1/4” dowel rod it seems to stop a .22 cal rifle at 18-20 feet away. I did not weld or solder the copper rings together just as is bent them together
Silicone ball-molds gauged to resin-cast rounds for your air-cannon: & maybe build a vacuum-chamber-accelerator barrel-extension; it can only make rounds faster, vacuum-fired rounds are insane & almost break physics.
Chainmaille made from chain links is pretty wild. I make chainmaille myself. I just go with riveted maille which is extremely time consuming or butted maille which is less time consuming but still time consuming. I could only imagine what that chain link chainmaille piece took to do. Those quarter inch thick links must have been a pain to bend and link.
Something with the cannonball i think people are forgetting is that this torso is perched up against a wall. in real combat thats not the case and it would send you backwards somewhat, possibly decreasing the impact on your body and making it more survivable. probably not by much tho
7:00 find a kevlar mat and staple it to a piece of plywood (thick) every 10 cm in a grid. That way, any heavy object won't go some place you don't want. If you can double or triple layer the matting, poifect.
Splintering arrows were a real threat to people in armor in general, as even in full plate the shards would deflect into the neck and face through the gaps of the armor. It was such a problem that it influenced how armor was made afterwards. A collar was eventually added to catch anything deflecting upwards.
I love Cody’s energy. So passionate about what he does. Like a little kid in a candy shop. And your attitude encourages it. This is all so wholesome. Edit: here from his channel, by the way! Subbing!
Keep in mind that usually some form of light padding would be underneath a Maille Hauberk (well also Maille wasn't that chunky and would have riveted rings, but this is just for fun) giving some padding and a bit more protection, but still a good video 6:27 to be honest I don't think Maille was used by that period (I believe that cuirass is from the Battle of Waterloo)
Cody think of it like a spring arrows LOSE energy when they they wiggle, but if there was no flex the arrow wouldnt take as much energy from the initial snap resulting in less velocity.
This video makes me really curious on wether it would be possible to craft chainmail for the modern day, like wether or not Cody's mail could withstand a bullet or two, considering how well it did on the little projectile
orders of magnitude more force.. but I suspect Kentucky Ballistics would be down for it. Remember he still has that harpoon gun. somebody slide into his DM's.
With dual Phantoms you can shoot in stereo. Make sure they are as close together as they can be, with them pointing exactly parallel to each other. Then make sure they're not too close to the subject. A good rule of thumb is no closer than 1/30th the distance to the closest foreground object. The best subjects are semi-transparent, such as a fire tornado. If interested, let me know if you have questions.
"if john wake had a pencil you'd be host" Recommendation: people rarely wore mail without a padded jacket underneath; the arrow shards likely wouldn't have made it as deep if you had that on underneath it
You guys deserve all the financial support possible. Not one single ad and only one on Cody's video. Sorry, I can not contribute financially otherwise than clicks and views. Great video, and thanks for the entertainment!
Totally mindblowing watching something like that slug roll off even at that velocity! ...but the shock waves though the body from a center line hit looks devastating for your organs. Forget having any ribs intact. That "rolling off" effect does look promising for making it by ok-ish from a glancing blow, that would otherwise rip your flesh deeply.
I just read about Cody's origin story why he started making YT videos, made me like him so much more. I've been a subscriber for years now, but never knew that about him.
Awesome video! Should have used a gambison though. Chain mail isn't designed to cover bare skin.. It probably wouldn't have helped a human survive the canon shot, but it would have been really interesting to see if it kept the pieces of that arrow out of the gel. I suspect a few layers of tough canvas with some padding, might have stood up to what got through.
The funny thing is 69K FPS for a high-speed camera is relatively low these days. Slow Mo Guys can go into the millions of FPS but they do still cost as much as a house.
The purpose of the Gel is not to see how resisten a torso is its to see ho the object intercats with a body like temporary wound channels or the direction after impact... sry for my english not my main language
I cannot believe that you guys got your hands on not one, but two phantoms!!! Like actually how!!! This channel continues to suprise me by just how resilient it is. Not that I think it was ever really going to die, but every time it starts to show signs of pulling a Tom Stanton, it comes back with new life. Like your favorite pet zombie... that you love to abuse...
The armor that got hit by the cannonball at 6:23 probably wasn't wearing chainmail underneath, but that's from a french cuirassier at the Battle of Waterloo (1815), and people had stopped wearing chainmail for hundreds of years by then. However, they would have had a particularly thick and tough cloth uniform underneath.
The breastplate (cuirass) hit by the cannon ball was early 19th century (Napolionic French), it was more for show than actual armour, although it would give some defence against other cavalry armed with sabres. It was worn over a wool coat, not over chainmail (although yeah, the cannon ball would have destroyed medieval mail anyway)
What did we learn: headless fiberglass arrows are preferable against human-targets; they spall open in a cone of shattering spokes, becoming dozens of fanning injurious-paths, shedding thousands of splinters in the wounds.
An armor made of that chainmail plus a layer of 3 inches of balistic gel would nullify most damage to the torso from impact or the chain wrapping into the skin. Would made a thick armor tho.
13:10 Based on where the blade initially landed and crossreferencing with the dummy (the gel one, not the waterjet one), the machete appears to have left a small cut.
I bet investing into a protective shield for your super expensive new camera is cheaper than buying a new camera when a giant metal slug ricochets at it from a giant piece of armored jelly.
I would have used a heavy duty slingshot, modified to launch the machete. And have it travel along a guide wire that it could slide off of about 30 cm away from impacting the chainmail. Then it may get a more straight on stab.
5:26 if you can, have them serviced. Who knows what crap's inside. And get GOOD cases for them. If you use them in areas where metal dust goes, make sure to dust the sensitive areas where the fans are. Low pressure air, AND don't spin the fans with compressed air, because that's current going back into the board.
Mail is only as good as its Gambeson, or in conjunction with other armor components. That said, they're testing the mail alone, so you want eliminate the variables introduced by Gambeson or quilted doublets.
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Cody needs to send his maille to Tod Cutler and see if they can get through it with proper war arrows from a longbow. If that happened I'd be so stoked.
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They use to wear leather or padding under the mail which should help with the arrow fragments from penetrating the flesh
Bring back the lock test!!! And Kanyon.
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I'm stuck in an infinite loop now because Cody said to watch this video after his finished, and now you are telling me to watch his after yours finishes
Dude… same. I already called off work tomorrow.
Same, my wife is going to kill me lol
Poor thing
Form those loops into some chain mail.
This is the song that doesn’t eeeend…
Just to clarify a soldier would wear padded armor underneath chainmail so there is a possibility the arrow splinters may not have gone through
Probably a decent bit of leather under the chain would have stopped the arrow shaft going through. The blunt force trauma from the "cannon ball" would have taken out like all the ribs though (with enough padding underneath the mail still possibly survivable?).
@@fetzie23 The shock going through the body would probably also have fractured the spine in several places. People who hit the pavement from very tall buildings look relatively fine on the outside but bones on the opposite side of the impact are still shattered.
@@fetzie23 if it is possible to make the cannonball survivable, it'd probably be pretty difficult imo, but yeah chainmail would either be worn under other armors like scale, leather or plate with a layer of padded quilt underneath if I remember correctly. All that would definitely protect against an arrow since the chainmail definitely stopped the arrow and splintered it
@@fetzie23 Quilted gambeson would stop the arrow shaft better than leather and also redistribute the impact better.
Also back in them days they wouldn't of had carbon fiber, so the arrow body would of been wood or metal (most likely wood), and either turned to dust or just bent, and not splintered quite like carbon does. Any wood splinters being way less sharp than a thin bit of carbon, and much easier to break apart on contact with the chainmail.
Cody finding you dead body on the battle ground: "My chainmail's fine, bit dented, but I can straighten that out on my anvil" ☺
In the not too distant future, the armor is worth more than the pilot.
That's why there are hardly any armors rated for .50 and above. It's not that you can't stop *a* bullet of that caliber, it's that there so much energy there that even if you spread it over a plate it's still too much.
@@lgjm5562 that future is now baby, especially depending on how you slice that cake. The US military values a human like at around half a million. that is how much the family of a dead soldier receives for the death of their loved one, and in many cases its actually a little less than that. When you consider that many tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets cost into the tens of millions of dollars, the "armor" of modern soldiers is worth vastly more than the human lives opperating them! Isn't modern war and the art of calculating the worth of human life so fun!
@@cola98765Yup. People oft forget that the reason *it is a very good idea* to do strenght training and developing musculature is to protect one's _very squishy, gelatinous organs._ Too much energy and it isn't going to matter that you're still in one piece, your insides are going to drip out like water.
@@dennisturgeon7019 That is incredibly misleading. Training a pilot or special forces operator can costs millions of dollars. So the most significant monetary cost for the US military is not the payout to the family but the cost of training a replacement. And of course there are non-monetary costs like morale and public/political support. You would have to add all these up to get the value of a soldiers life as seen by the US military.
its cool that the chainmail would survive the cannon shot but the person wearing it is still very dead lol
Perfect for the next user
Peak efficiency lol
@@Gandhi_Physiquelol perfect; to also die in?
It's a very special chainmail, meant to save the next soldier behind you on the battlefield.
It's not so much as the chance of getting hit by a cannon ball. It's the weight of wearing that and all of your gear...
To be fair, if you were wearing 200 pounds of chainmail, you might be more likely to survive an encounter because you would collapse from exhaustion before making it to the battle
You'd have a team of 4 squires with hooks on a rope and stick similar to a fishing pole but much sturdier, to lift up your chainmail and reduce the weight you have to bear as you walk in it.
@mrkiky 4 even more encumbered dudes with less martial training, tasty.
I did chuckle though, cause I can imagine some king out there actually doing that.
brother with all due respect, I hope your comment is for the funnies. An average to good quality mail hauberk (knee to upper thigh length) weighed like 30 ish pounds. Add like 7-10 pounds of padded material under it, 1-3 pounds for a good helmet with padding and maybe like a 5 pounds for a rather heavy side-arm sword, like a pretty hefty and crude Falchion. You'd still be way under the 100 pound. They're all just normal peeps under that armour, fit and trained perhaps, but not a bodybuilder for lifting contests. Modern military gear gets up into the 100-150 range and that's only for mostly short periods and we also have on-the-go troop transport quite available, not some tired squire who's barely limping behind you in battle. Sorry if I came out angsty but I literally gave my bachelors degree on armour and I'm so tired of seeing the age old myth that it's some ridiculously heavy and restricting equipment, while in fact it was made-to-fit or at least modified-to-fit to owner. Cheerios.
@balrog99-41 I have yet to see old mail that is barely able to get picked up for a 2 ft by 3 ft section.
My comment was talking about how grossly heavy Cody's chainmail was, not historical accurate mail.
And they totally understand that the mail he made isn't even remotely close to historical or usable.
That's why they invented plate mail.
Cody seems so happy throughout this whole video.
He must've been so proud of his creation throughout the whole testing process.
To be fair he is almost Always this Happy. ;) the only time I saw him sad I didn't blame him as I was also sad at the passing of Grant Thompson from TKOR
@@isaiahoconnor8236 I think he has been pretty low for a long time between the breakup with Canyon and the TY monetization issues. I think he is finally getting back to normal.
@SephBane yeah I could see that, but he us happy when doing science:)
It's amazing how much getting paid will do for your mental health.
@Skorpychan I know from personal experience. Long story short bmy business took a massive covid induced hit, was struggling to find other work and landed on antidepressants . Got a job even though it was only a seasonal one and was able to get off of them.
Once again confirming that there are only about 4 TH-camrs in Utah. Waterjet, Cody’s lab, Nate from the internet/TKOR crew and… that might be it
There are way more than that.. I'd never even heard of this channel before Cody's video
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Arrow: Survived.
Big bullet: Still dead, but the guy behind you survived. You may survive the impact itself, but you'd probably bleed to death afterwards.
Flung machete: Survived, but you wouldn't be happy about it.
...Okay, but is there a situation involving a machete flying at you that you *would* be happy about?
@@TheAttacker732 I mean, you wouldn't be happy about surviving it.
You would be far less happy after the arrow than the machete tbh.
@@mrkiky The arrow shaft would be stopped by the gambeson under the mail. The machete hit HARD, so you'd probably have bruised ribs at the very least, possibly cracked.
@@Skorpychan Well, if you had gambeson as well, sure. Otherwise that splintered carbon fiber shaft would've gone deep enough to do organ damage if you're unlucky enough, and would be really nasty to dig out all of those splinters anyway.
Go watch Cody's Video!!!! He did an insane amount of work on it so it's the least you can do ;)
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11:44 Cody looks like he's about to cast a spell
given his knowledge of science he probably could
we love casting spells
"These might shear off, then the rest of the arrow goes through."
"But I would say that's not a failure of the chainmail."
Tell that to the guy with an arrow in his chest. lol
No one wears chainmail on their bare chest. You wear it over a gambeson (thick padded coat) which is a surprisingly effective type of armor. It would stop those splinters easily.
Given they shot a modern-day hunting arrow, that was designed to inflict nasty wounds on elks, who, in fact, do not wear armor.
Medieval war arrows were much thicker, with sold steel arrowheads. they wouldn't squeeze between those links at all.
They look like an older and younger brother playing in the yard lol
we will call them the MartiAn brothers
One thing to remember is that historically chainmail was worn over gambesson, so anything like those splinters from the arrow would get caught.
Amazing, amazing, I can't belive
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6:22 No French Carabinier (who had received their brass gilded cuirasses in 1809) would have worn chainmail at any time, certainly not by the time of the Battle of Waterloo and not François Antoine Fauveau the poor unfortunate soul of the 2e Régiment de Carabiniers from whom this cuirass was recovered.
Yeah I was gonna comment the same, cuirasses at that time were basically the equivalent of modern plate carriers in terms of coverage.
I just said the same thing but longer like 26 seconds ago and I thought "I wonder if anyone else said that" and what do you know
What I love most about this, is nobody would ever wear chainmail just bare chested ( they also would never wear chainmail this heavy) but the gambeson would definitely have stopped those arrow shaft shards from penetrating into the skin even if they were wood and not carbon fiber.
Even it it's, say, 30% lighter or more and a proper shirt, I think it's the fact that it's welded and hardened that's showing a lot of the performance. If someone hasn't done some testing on how thick you can reasonably get with welded tempered rings while still carrying the rest of your gear and fighting, they should.
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The circle of life brings me back around to this channel. I unsubscribed when Dan and Mitchel stopped making videos here, completely forgot about the channel until today when I watched Cody make the chainmail.
It's a nice surprise to see this channel is still going and from the sounds of it, with the phantom cameras, you're going to have lots of opportunities for some amazing videos in the close future too!
I like how I got _both_ videos in my feed, (both yours and Cody's) at the same time! 😃
Cool to get both POV's side by side like this.
Those phantoms are 100% stolen! 😂
Where I work, we used EuroFlex ring mesh products. And it's incredible... YOU LITERALLY CANNOT GET STABBED! The rings are around 4.2 mm in diameter, and every single individual ring has been WELDED, which makes all the rings basically IMPOSSIBLE to just "stab" through with your most powerful blow.
This is a great collab and I want to see more crossover with Cody's Lab! Thanks!
Arrow head breaks off and still stabs guy.
Guy as he lays on the ground dying, "At least my chainmail didn't fail".
In the medieval period, quality of mail was directly proportionate to how teeny tiny fine the rings were. As this video shows, mail sucks at dealing with impact so it was mainly used to mitigate laceration and stabbing.
Thank you for having Cody over here to test his creation.
Very impressive results. Cody is always so upbeat he must be a joy to be around.
Two very excellent channels together, chain mail, using the air cannon! I am one happy girl!
based on the recommendations in both videos, I am stucked watching you and Cody again, again, again
An endless loop. Pretty soon both videos will have a billion views. Our evil plan is unstoppable 😎
So excited & so good to see Cody back on the WaterJet Channel! 🙌
I think that chain mail needs to take a quick trip on over to Demolition Ranch so Matt can see how bulletproof it is 😂❤
Awesome video guys 🥰
And if there was a gambason that works greatly reduce the little damage caused. With the arrow
totally agreed: maille was never worn alone. without the thick quilted fabric below, the maille doesnt help much against blunt force trauma
Normal gambeson wouln't do with this one. I'm sure Cody can come up with something heavy enough to match the chain :)
@Qwarzz indeed:) but it would likely have stopped the fragments of that arrow :) not much on the blunt force of the bullet
That was my first thought when he said something along the lines of getting poaked a little bit.
How about some 100mm rockwool, compacted down?
I love seeing two of my favorite channels come together!
Remember that you would wear a gambeson under the chain mail, i don't think the splinters of the arrow would get through that.
you should 3d print a cup that fits whatever your shooting so it goes straighter, also so you could make a giant shotgun
Mmm. 3dprinted canister shot
Sabot request!!!
@@westwashere2214 Yeah! May as well build a proper APFSDS for that air cannon lol
I believe the sideways bullet was because of lack of spin allowing it to tumble. Since they justifiably aren't using a threaded metal barrel, they should be using a ball so it goes straighter and hits truer.
3d print? just carve out of fecking styrofoam
A crossover I never even imagined
Here from Cody's channel. Impressed! He made the indestructible chain mail, and you have the tests, and stunning slo-mo, to prove it.
Don't be surprised to hear from Ukraine. If you don't, then expect to see "their" invention on the news. I'm sure they could find 101 uses for Cody's chainmail made from chains. 💜✊
YESSSSS I love Cody's channel. Glad to see the crossover!
God I love the Waterjet-Cody collabs!
I'd like to see how it would hold up to a rondel dagger which is designed to be thrust in between links and lever them apart. You can see a similar profile in sword tips as time went one and they went for being more optimized for cutting to more optimized for thrusting.
Holy crap I've been watching cody since the beginning, and you guys since the beginning, awesome to see you all collab!
Perfect curtain for homes in warzones.
9/10 tankshells can even be reused.
The crossover we didn't know we needed!
Cool collaboration in this one I follow both of you guys thanks for the content!
There has been some great tests done on Tods Workshop doing historic arrows vs armour, and arrows causing damage by splintering against armour is definatelyna thing (not quite like that, though!).
I don't think it's the world's strongest chainmail. I can think of other weaves you could use that would still be practical for actual use. Just because it is thick and heavy, doesn't mean it is the strongest. Butted or riveted would be way stronger and much thinner, especially with a euro six in one weave for example. You also wouldn't want square chainmail links.
You don't wear chainmail under plate, that's completely impractical. Often on transitory suits of plate you might see chainmail covering the weak spots but a full suit of chainmail would be unnecessary and problematic because of the way plate has to fit tightly to the body.
I've been stuck in a loop, watching these two videos, for days! How do I end this madness?
2:30 Average fantasy archers shooting speed
Такая история с карбоновыми стрелами случается чаще чем вы думаете. Иногда, когда лучники тренируются, стрелы могут попадать в твердые предметы и немного повреждать карбоновое древко, незаметно для стрелка. Существует не маленькая вероятность что при следующем выстреле такой стрелой даже из маломощного лука, стрела начнет расщепляться во время выстрела, и обломки древка, разойдясь в виде цветочка, войдут в руку лучника. Это ужасная травма скорее всего приведет к ампутации.
A collab with Cody is always a good collab
This is that old TH-cam style revival
You guys need to use real wooden arrows instead of carbon fiber arrows to have any chance against the shainmail.
Since I see a lot of folks talking about it here, I would like to point out that no, gambesons were not commonly worn under mail.
Gambesons were generally used as standalone armor.
You would generally wear light undergarments under your metal armor, but it wasn't thickly padded and more so served to prevent chafing than to protect from things that got past the mail.
Heat, weight and general mobility were always concerns and the average high medieval knight would be willing to accept a risk of suffering bruises or fractures when hit, if it meant they didn't slowly stew in the summer heat under their hauberks.
This is actually quite visible if you look at 11th century sources like the Bayeux tapestry, where the fighters are generally drawn as very slim and wearing form-fitting hauberks and coifs.
The time in which mail was the be all and end all of armor was also the time when your main defensive tool was your shield, not your armor. Your mail was a failsafe that might save your ass if you failed to stop or avoid an imcoming hit, but it wasn't expected to offer the same degree of near-invulnerability that late medieval plate could provide.
Later on, as the technology developed, armor became so resilient that shields started becoming somewhat redundant, which in turn allowed knights and well-geared men-at-arms to abandon their shields in favour of using two-handed weapons which in turn became necessary to deal with heavily armored opponents.
Gambesons on the other hand were more of an alternative to mail, for people who either favoured a lighter option or who couldn't afford mail.
Cody told me to come watch this video now you're telling me to go watch his video. I'VE BEEN WATCHING FOR 8 HOURS! Send help!
I was looking forward to it until I saw the machete go straight through it at 20 seconds into the vid.
Don't forget the chainmail would be worn over a gambeson, a quilted and padded jacket, that would provide more protection. A gambeson's multiple layers of quilted fabric provided a surprising level of protection.
you need a shot cup to support the wadding and prevent it from blowing by. try stuffing wadding-> soda can-> projectile and I bet your velocity will go way up
Cody I bought 6 gauge copper wire and made a similar chainmail to your chain mail wrapping the wire around a 1/4” dowel rod it seems to stop a .22 cal rifle at 18-20 feet away. I did not weld or solder the copper rings together just as is bent them together
Silicone ball-molds gauged to resin-cast rounds for your air-cannon: & maybe build a vacuum-chamber-accelerator barrel-extension; it can only make rounds faster, vacuum-fired rounds are insane & almost break physics.
el que dobla los videos tiene el animo de un perezoso durmiendo
10:10 Seeing the chainmail ripple like water was craaazy. Seriously cool.
Glad to see Cody collabing with kindred spirits
Chainmaille made from chain links is pretty wild. I make chainmaille myself. I just go with riveted maille which is extremely time consuming or butted maille which is less time consuming but still time consuming. I could only imagine what that chain link chainmaille piece took to do. Those quarter inch thick links must have been a pain to bend and link.
Something with the cannonball i think people are forgetting is that this torso is perched up against a wall. in real combat thats not the case and it would send you backwards somewhat, possibly decreasing the impact on your body and making it more survivable. probably not by much tho
7:00 find a kevlar mat and staple it to a piece of plywood (thick) every 10 cm in a grid. That way, any heavy object won't go some place you don't want. If you can double or triple layer the matting, poifect.
Splintering arrows were a real threat to people in armor in general, as even in full plate the shards would deflect into the neck and face through the gaps of the armor. It was such a problem that it influenced how armor was made afterwards. A collar was eventually added to catch anything deflecting upwards.
I love Cody’s energy. So passionate about what he does. Like a little kid in a candy shop. And your attitude encourages it. This is all so wholesome.
Edit: here from his channel, by the way! Subbing!
Keep in mind that usually some form of light padding would be underneath a Maille Hauberk (well also Maille wasn't that chunky and would have riveted rings, but this is just for fun) giving some padding and a bit more protection, but still a good video 6:27 to be honest I don't think Maille was used by that period (I believe that cuirass is from the Battle of Waterloo)
Cody think of it like a spring arrows LOSE energy when they they wiggle, but if there was no flex the arrow wouldnt take as much energy from the initial snap resulting in less velocity.
The goat of backyard science and geology brought me here! :)
Dude has been slowly becoming a blacksmith for a decade and null ask if it took him a year. xD
This video makes me really curious on wether it would be possible to craft chainmail for the modern day, like wether or not Cody's mail could withstand a bullet or two, considering how well it did on the little projectile
The layer of brigandine, that would typically be worn underneath the chain mail, would stop the splinters from the arrow shaft.
Super nice video 👍👍👍👍
Now he needs to go see kentucky ballistics and get the big boys up against it
Lead bullets squish through the rings.
FMJ just pushes through.
I've done it -- but not with welded links.
4 bore vs. chain chainmail.
Yes.
orders of magnitude more force.. but I suspect Kentucky Ballistics would be down for it. Remember he still has that harpoon gun. somebody slide into his DM's.
@@vicroc4punt gun
With dual Phantoms you can shoot in stereo. Make sure they are as close together as they can be, with them pointing exactly parallel to each other. Then make sure they're not too close to the subject. A good rule of thumb is no closer than 1/30th the distance to the closest foreground object. The best subjects are semi-transparent, such as a fire tornado. If interested, let me know if you have questions.
"if john wake had a pencil you'd be host"
Recommendation: people rarely wore mail without a padded jacket underneath; the arrow shards likely wouldn't have made it as deep if you had that on underneath it
With two phantoms you guys are litterally every youtuber's new best friends. I love it!
3:33 with royalty free audio playing "I want to take a second just to talk about..." **hand over the mouse fast as that arrow bolt hit the chainmail**
But how "bullet proof (resistant)" is it? 🎉 😮 😂
You guys deserve all the financial support possible. Not one single ad and only one on Cody's video. Sorry, I can not contribute financially otherwise than clicks and views. Great video, and thanks for the entertainment!
I looked up on ebay how much they paid for the phantom v610, it was 13,600. not a bad price
Totally mindblowing watching something like that slug roll off even at that velocity! ...but the shock waves though the body from a center line hit looks devastating for your organs. Forget having any ribs intact.
That "rolling off" effect does look promising for making it by ok-ish from a glancing blow, that would otherwise rip your flesh deeply.
I just read about Cody's origin story why he started making YT videos, made me like him so much more. I've been a subscriber for years now, but never knew that about him.
You both look very genuinely impressed with the chain mail and it’s very genuinely impressive chain mail. Amazing viddy
Awesome video! Should have used a gambison though. Chain mail isn't designed to cover bare skin.. It probably wouldn't have helped a human survive the canon shot, but it would have been really interesting to see if it kept the pieces of that arrow out of the gel. I suspect a few layers of tough canvas with some padding, might have stood up to what got through.
The funny thing is 69K FPS for a high-speed camera is relatively low these days. Slow Mo Guys can go into the millions of FPS but they do still cost as much as a house.
The purpose of the Gel is not to see how resisten a torso is its to see ho the object intercats with a body like temporary wound channels or the direction after impact...
sry for my english not my main language
I cannot believe that you guys got your hands on not one, but two phantoms!!! Like actually how!!!
This channel continues to suprise me by just how resilient it is. Not that I think it was ever really going to die, but every time it starts to show signs of pulling a Tom Stanton, it comes back with new life. Like your favorite pet zombie... that you love to abuse...
The armor that got hit by the cannonball at 6:23 probably wasn't wearing chainmail underneath, but that's from a french cuirassier at the Battle of Waterloo (1815), and people had stopped wearing chainmail for hundreds of years by then. However, they would have had a particularly thick and tough cloth uniform underneath.
The breastplate (cuirass) hit by the cannon ball was early 19th century (Napolionic French), it was more for show than actual armour, although it would give some defence against other cavalry armed with sabres.
It was worn over a wool coat, not over chainmail (although yeah, the cannon ball would have destroyed medieval mail anyway)
Came here from Cody'sLab, cool stuff!
What did we learn: headless fiberglass arrows are preferable against human-targets; they spall open in a cone of shattering spokes, becoming dozens of fanning injurious-paths, shedding thousands of splinters in the wounds.
An armor made of that chainmail plus a layer of 3 inches of balistic gel would nullify most damage to the torso from impact or the chain wrapping into the skin. Would made a thick armor tho.
13:10 Based on where the blade initially landed and crossreferencing with the dummy (the gel one, not the waterjet one), the machete appears to have left a small cut.
You've been putting out good content lately. Well done dude.
I bet investing into a protective shield for your super expensive new camera is cheaper than buying a new camera when a giant metal slug ricochets at it from a giant piece of armored jelly.
- "I know what I have, no lowball"
- Admits he did not knew if they were working or not
Yeah, that's second-hand marketplaces 101
I would have used a heavy duty slingshot, modified to launch the machete. And have it travel along a guide wire that it could slide off of about 30 cm away from impacting the chainmail. Then it may get a more straight on stab.
5:26 if you can, have them serviced. Who knows what crap's inside. And get GOOD cases for them. If you use them in areas where metal dust goes, make sure to dust the sensitive areas where the fans are. Low pressure air, AND don't spin the fans with compressed air, because that's current going back into the board.
Mail is only as good as its Gambeson, or in conjunction with other armor components.
That said, they're testing the mail alone, so you want eliminate the variables introduced by Gambeson or quilted doublets.