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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Intro - 0:00
Purpose of Jungle Kiting - 0:37
How to Kite - 1:11
Saving HP - 2:19
Saving HP (Kite Ratios) - 3:32
Speed vs Health - 6:27
Conclusion - 7:46
Clear Spreadsheet - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Patreon - / phylaris
Coaching - neace.gg - เกม
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Dude, your clears are absolutely insane. My friend found your spreadsheet a few days ago and I've used it to practice Evelyn and Udyr, but always had trouble with kiting, especially when trying to maintain health. Thanks so much man, you're a blessing to people learning jungle.
This video's pretty limited in scope and only covers how the basic kiting motion itself works, so I'll be making a couple separate videos later down the line addressing general clearing tricks, as well as the more advanced mechanical optimizations you can make to increase the consistency of your kiting.
Thank you ! Looking forward to them :) !
Great video brother, I’m very interested in a more advanced video from you!
Dude, that's really awesome. I've found you some weeks ago, and, seriously, you have no idea how much you helped me. Keep doing the excellent work!
Super underrated. Thanks for the spreadsheet and video!
This is one the things I REALLY needed to understand how to approach kiting, thank you SO MUCH!
Dude, this is the guide I've been looking for months!!! 😭 I've recently swapped to jg from sp and I swear your guides (esp the jungle camp ranges one 🙏) is vry helpful to beginner players like me. 🎉🎉
The best explication that I have never seen about kungle kitting, clear and accurate. Good job!
Found your spreadsheet... mind is blown.
Recently switched from support to jungle and the winrate is going through the roof. Thank you for all you do
Jesus I am just floored at how good people like you are at this stuff. Absolutely insane Phylaris. I may be too bad to put it to use but keep up the good work anyway!
Absolutey amazing in how you describe abstract concepts in an easier way! You got talent bro! I remember talking to u on Discord about the on-hit effects of hailblade and emberknife :)
This actually might be one of the best informative lol videos ive ever seen!
This was great, would love to see more in-depth videos like this!
Thanks man, your content is pure gold, keep it going and you will have a successfull coaching career ^^
It's so cool to max health at the finish on the clear!
I will be waiting for the next videos!!! :D
Thank you for the guide!
This exactly what I was looking for ! Thanks for the video !
awesome bro! That helped me a lot, I was struggling as tank In the first lvls and now I get it. Keep doing videos pls
Keep up the good work m8 ! We need more videos like yours !
Very cool video, I struggled to understand how kiting was saving health, and your explanations were clear and to the point! Thanks :)
Hello! High school and amateur LoL coach here. I sent your spreadsheet to all my teams and will show all my junglers this video. It's very well explained and illustrated! Looking forward to more content from you :)
I’m definitely interested in more videos on this topic, and on the topic of clear efficiency in general! I’m a Kindred main, but I also love Evelynn, Taliyah, Elise, and Viego. I would love to see a video covering tips and tricks on these champs
Thank God I found your channel, this was very helpful, I'm new to jungle but now I'm ready to kite with Ivern Thx for the help!
This is incredible buddy, really need to learn this,
You sir have earned a sub.
Would definitely love another video where you talk about mechanics
I would be extremely interested in seeing more of your content about advanced techniques like micro kiting, S Key usage and patience control. Thanks for the video!
more please!! the video I was finally looking for to explain kiting
keep this coming man !! so helpfull!!! you need more subscribers for sure!!
Great job on this!
thank u for making this video 🥺
good hustle phylaris
he is jo_____ fan 69 for a reason
Thank you for making this!
I would appretiate more in depths videos from you even thought i have to admit im not a jungler(anymore) because this is just really fun and intersting to watch. I also send the vid to some jungle friends of mine
Really useful video, thank you
I feel called out for using the ratios this whole time...great work and can't wait for a more advanced video release!
I just posted the more advanced guide a few hours ago, if you want to check it out.
Oh sorry about that, must have missed it! I'll check it out! Keep up the great work :)
Good explanation, ty man
Looking the aa animation improved my full clear speed by 10 seconds. Sounds like an advertisment but this video really helped me, thanks!
godlike video, hope to see some 11.4 clears soon!
Wooow. Wish id seen this video 10 years ago. Thanks!
Would like to see the more in depth video you talked about.
This channel is so underrated btw!
Damn dude. I´ve always struggled with Kiting and as such have never managed to play jungle. Now I understand it! thank you!
So glad I found this. All my higher elo friends would bag on my clear but never explain this specific mechanic too me no matter how many times I've asked
I have been working on my clears. I still am about 15-25 seconds behind on my full clears on udyr/hec. its been interesting watching your videos and realizing i was losing 4-5 seconds from even like red and small gols early. So i enjoyed this video to know not just like i have to kite it, but what to be looking for to kite it better and lose less health.
soo good, thank you so much! :)
I'm finally gonna find out what this is all about. Thanks!
Whenever I watch youtubers jungle they always tell how important kiting is, but they never explain how it works, and when you try to copy them it never seems to help except for the walking distance.
This is a much needed explanation of _how_ it works when you do it properly.
Great work on a much needed guide about it. Still wont bother on Zac though since he doesn't care about getting hit much ;)
But certainly useful on Evelyn so I don't have to wait for her passive to heal me as much improving my clear speed, or Vi for sure because her shield does have downtime.
oh man ur a great teacher and a great player
Wow this was very helpful! I'm not even a jungle main but I get autofilled in jg a lot, and my clear is absolutely horrible
please keep making videos like this
great content!
Very good video thanks
thank you, good tutorial
awesome video
dude i just want to say thank you. i was so stuck on why I was taking so much damage during my clears when compared to your videos or streamers that I watched when it seemed like i was doing everything right. You have upgrading my jungling so much please keep making content
this shit still literally makes no fucking sense to me, riot is dumb as fuck for making this trash required for jungle no wonder so many junglers are fucking terrible
very helpful thank you
I'd like to see another video! This was cool, even tho I dont play Jungle.
Yes I need to know more, where's this part 2 o.o you're amazing
really good vid
Thank you!
great video, would love to see a video about patience control, since when i clear jungle im always scared to reset my camps
thx helped
me a lot
Amazing, thank you god
good video, very helpful, although I have watched similar before and in this one I hoped to find examples for effective kiting of gromp, the buffs are pretty easy :P
good video
so Helpful
more videos like this pls
Always use your spreadsheets, make the advanced one!
Ur the best
Sadly I've been playing since pre-season 1 off an on and I thought I understood these concepts.... but within the first 2 minutes my mind just exploded and everything just started to make perfect sense.
No worries, that's how it is for a lot of junglers. You kinda have a feel for things from experience, but it isn't really explained in full anywhere so it doesn't quite click perfectly.
Would love to see a video with examples on when its good to clear fast, and when its good to clear with delayed AAs to prevent loss of health.
Example: Kite w a tank, a mage, and a bruiser.
Generally speaking, you pretty much just do however much you need to do in terms of saving health to end your clear with roughly full health, as entering river/heading in for ganks while chunked is just really not a good idea. Anything past that point you prioritize speed. Pretty much holds true regardless of champion.
As I mentioned in the video, it's really only in the early clears that some jungle champions get a bit unhealthy, but you're generally not trading off any speed by kiting for HP via delayed monster autos in the earlygame anyway, since you don't do enough DPS to kill monsters before they reach patience range.
Later on in the game when you're clearing with pretty much full HP, there's not much point in kiting for HP anymore, with the exception of cases where you're re-entering the jungle after a gank with low HP and want to sustain back up.
thnx dude
Can u do the video on those mechanics, I want to min/max at that level
That min/max video sounds interesting!
Great video and oh boy, the spreadsheet is something I didn't know I needed. haha
The only thing that I'd wish for is for you to bring in "more color" while talking.
It sounds a little boring and is slow.
On the other hand, it's an informational video and the slow speed is helpful when trying to understand.
Something like a few notes on the screen could help as long as they don't cause the viewer to miss what you are saying.
Good luck with your chanel.
I would love to see a top 5 fasted jungle clears for patch 11.4
First clear for different junglers would be super helpful!
Spreadsheet in the description has some demos for every jungle champ.
THANKS
Please do a part 2 of explaining kiting mechanics
can you make a video where u explain the basics of when and how you optimize your ganks ?
This went completely over my head.
would love to see more advanced coverage! in particular the stop command use... i see it used a lot in lillia clear vids and i dont really get it :(
i'd really be intrested seeing an optimized clear for master yi,
pls master next video
I know it isn’t meta, but could you do an akali jungle route? I personally get better results starting red buff, but I’d like to see what you can manage
would you be willing to do a clear guide on sett? your video was really helpful. sorry for my rant comment, been watchin a lot of "red pill" "grind set" bs that's been pissin' me off and i drew a connection.
I love you
What do you do as, let's randomly say Jarvan, after you full cleared in comparison to Red-Blue-Gromp?
Very nice video that should be compulsory reading for every aspiring jungler.
R-B-G typically leads into some ganks/invades into Scuttle at 3:15. Full-clearing typically leads straight into a Scuttle, then either some gank/invades or reset for 2nd clear rotation.
@@Phylaris Thank you.
Thank you
Still confused but slightly less, I think i recognize the mistakes I was making
First and foremost, you only kite when your attack is on cooldown, since you don't want to lose DPS (unless the monster is almost dead and you're waiting to line up with skill CD's or jungle item burn).
If you're kiting for speed, you kite when the enemy isn't locked into an attack animation. So, your attack is on CD + enemy not locked up.
If you're kiting for HP, you add another layer of selectivity on top of the above, and only kite when the timing lines up with just before the monster is going to hit you. That way, its auto is getting delayed the entire time you're kiting.
@@Phylaris
Makes sense, I was doing a lot of the awkward shuffle step that just ended up being a net negative overall but now I think I get the actual mechanic of it. I've only recently started applying kiting to my game play so this timing has been right on the money.
Thanks again, also your clearing spreadsheet will also be very handy, good work on that.
Pls do part 2
Hi Phylaris, I am not sure but sometimes I notice that I get to level 4 faster when clearing camps in the early game? Is my XP somehow being affected by whats happening on the map or is the amount of XP fixed for all champs doing a full clear? I mainly use Udyr so I usually level Bear at level 4 and put points in Q or R first.
Amount of EXP is fixed, but sometimes if your midlaner is pushed under his tower, you leech some EXP from his minions dying while you're at Raptors or crossing through mid to Wolves.
@@Phylaris this explains a lot. Also if you start from blue then do a full clear except golems, can you get to lvl 4?
thank you so fuking much
holy shit this looks so hard
Qiyana receives a range bonus to her autos when near her enchanted element - this range bonus allows you to attack across the walls next to blue buff and red buff, i.e. on bot side blue, blue can be in the bush, and you can hit it across the wall south of the bush but at most angles it cannot hit you back b/c its auto distance is lower.
By warding the bush and hopping over the wall optimally you can shave 2 autos off of standard kiting.
But this leads me to my question - the patience meter goes crazy when you attack over a wall and you have to be very careful. Ideally with qiyana jungle you have a leash, but you can't leash without risking resetting the buff. At least I can't: could you make a video on patience meters and how they interact with leashes?
I have a guide on Patience mechanics. With regards to leashes - you pretty much just have to sit and tank the buff, otherwise your laners are going to get hit.
@@Phylaris Thanks - so if you really optimize your clear on a lot of champions, a leash seems really suboptimal? especially if your laner could benefit from starting in lane.
not to mention leash tells the other team where you started.
Can you not increase your ratio/attack speed by attack move canceling? And won't doing this also increase your clear?
No, your attack speed is set to whatever your attack rate dictates. Cancelling autos (which you should be doing) just means you have more time to kite until your next auto is ready. You can't artificially increase how fast you attack, though.
I still don't understand what kite ratios mean, can someone please explain it to me.
advanced course please
That gromp woulda totally reset on me. Wolf too.
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private coaching?
it's crazy how much you sound like upper echelon gamers lol, are you secretly running 2 channels?!
till today i've only ever heard "delayed" i've learned on delay is proper usage as well.
that said this is something mind blowing honestly. all these years i thought the pros/anyone above beginner/intermediate level were just faster than all of us and in a way they were, but what they were really doing was "bio hacking" the mechanics of the game. what i mean by this is. if you consider an auto attack as doing the norm accumulating cs/currency as a normie would might find someone not reaching their full potential, maybe doesn't sleep enough for one reason or another (can't because they work to stay alive). then you look at the chad who has finances to find the best doctors and trainers to teach them how to "bio hack" and they eat well, they sleep, they go to the gym EVERY FUCKIN DAY even if the DONT WANT TO. because of this they get that bag because they earned it! when in reality. they just happened to be fortunate enough to achieve such things. they either were introduced to or discovered the information necessary to achieve the things they have achieved. probability. if this basic fucking machanic was taught in the league client itself, in a clear and comprehensive manner, with UI and the like to assist in all aspects of the mechanic. i guarantee you, lower leveled players would improve. this is so fucking important. you can't change the delay between each of your auto attacks but you can get better positioning, and you can clear your camps faster than you would ever be able to without doing so. fuck riot, fuck ranked, they've let bots run every 3-5 games into the fuckin ground wasting literally every actual person in each game's time and riot doesn't give a single shit.
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