So good to see the facts about fixing mistakes. So many "instructors" would have cut this out or just glazed over it and not shown that it could be done right. And I love the look of these large format tiles. Thx for sharing it.
Pro tip, you can’t self level up to a major hump. You must address the high spot first then you can self level any remaining low areas/ variation in substrate. Love that you took the time to fix it and produce quality finished product.
I loved this video mostly because of the problem you had and the solution you both came up with to fix it. Things definitely don't always go as planned and like you said when (not if) those issues come up you make it right and then move on. But I will say when you move on you always take that lesson with you because it's always good to learn something from each job you do which will make that one even better. Thanks again for showing us this video because it was real ... I really like that.
Just came across a similar issue and am just going to self level it to get the best result. It will be the first time I do it but watching your videos has given me SOME confidence on how to do it. Great Video and look forward to the next.
Thanks for watching! glad I can help. We would have self leveled but we didn't want to build up the floor too much as the floor outside the bathroom is LVP. But if you have the room to do so, I would also self level. Always a nice smooth and flat finish.
LOVE the fact you guys, cut the video to make sure you point this out about hump. People don't see things like such, because everyone shows the glamorous after with nothing in between. GREAT work!
I appreciate your attention to detail. I do 99% commercial and it seems to be rare that most trades take the time for that stuff. Site managers rarely do a good job at scheduling so it is always a rush to get in and get done.
@@NunYaaBizz so if you have 2,000 sq ft of tile to be installed and you schedule me for a friday, and it has to be done by morning..and you schedule other trades to be in the same space at the same time..that's my problem
I like the fact that you kept the mistake and explained the fix. . Question, I’m using 3 pieces of large tile for a fireplace surround (top piece and 2 side pieces about 5 x45 inches each approximately. Can I do with out using spacers? Originally, there were 3 pieces of granite without any gaps between the granite pieces.
Theses tile sizes are getting NUTZ!!! 16X48 holy smokes & I saw that training you guys went too where they're basically really thin countertops & are being called (tiles) LOL that cover an entire shower wall no grout lines... Some really cool things taking place in the industry. So glad you guys represent it to the absolute BEST of your abilities!!! And... do I even need to mention that you both are originally from Jersey?? It doesn't get any better. Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!
I've got the same problem. I have a rise in center. Like you I did not see it I used backer board and sealed around too. Now I have a quarter rise. I have no choice bit to to thin set the rise. Using 24x24 porcelan
The tiles are too big for that space. It is generally accepted that you should not start along one wall or have a very narrow piece on any side. The tile pattern always looks best if it is symmetrical on the area covered.
Nice job. Do you check the large tiles also for flatness? I once had 12×24 ceramic tiles that were severely bowed. I had ordered tiles months in advance and didn't discover the problem until day of installation.
You should try using a vibrator. I saw the Thai guys using one on the TH-cams and i was wowwed. I will generally tighten up the tiles with the self levelers then hit the tile with the suction cup vibrator and it really levels nice plus it gives you better coverage on the back side of the tile. By the way, that lighted level is my Favorite.
Shannon! Can you tell me what grout you used? Was it epoxy grout? We’re doing our very first renovation and we want to avoid dirty grout as much as humanly possible. We were hoping to achieve this big bigger pieces of tile (so fewer grout lines), and maybe epoxy grout? Thoughts?
OK so I may have just a bit of a buzz going on so let me try to say some constructive criticism… Guys spent way too much time, apologizing and groveling BUT, I want you to know that it was really really good to see how you recovered… we all make mistakes , a lot of mistakes in this work, we just try and limit them and hopefully, a easy fix! Honesty is hard to come by these days so”I” just think a little less talking… Most understood and move on with the teaching point. Right, wrong, or indifferent, showing the mistake, recovery was good you guys as well… I just happened to walk by and caught this episode and I asked this question so let me ask this, with those XXL tiles had no slope for the shower? Best of luck to ya and maybe you’ll catch this… I did mention a little bit of a “buzz” yes… lol. Be well…!
That’s an easy place to miss a hump. I probably would have shifted the layout towards the door to increase size of piece at tub. With tile that big, it could have looked like a half size cut matching the door entrance piece, FWIW
Yes. Just over half tile at the door and tub would be best but that does require more cutting. They probably figured the grout lines would be hard to see so opted for less cutting.
I also have a hump behind my toilet. I think with all the pipes and drains coming up through the slab in a small area, the concrete guys can’t get their large floats in between.
I didnt see any underlayment like cement board or Schluter Ditra. Could lead to a problem like water leakage, wood movement, expansion, grout cracking. Looks like you applied thinset directly to the wood. Dry fitting cement board would have lead you to discover the hump.
I watched another video where they suggested not using big tiles because they're slippery and therefore a safety issue..is this not the case? Because I wanted to use bigger tiles untilI sawthat video.
The size of the tile will have nothing to do with the slip rating. There are large tiles manufactured with the appropriate slip rating for floors and even some with a grip coating. You can inquire about these while shopping.
It's called Self Leveling Compound. Available at any big box store or tile shop. If you never assume a room is square then never assume the floor is level. Always check.
Its good practice to self level a floor if you have the height, otherwise patching compound is a great way to get a floor flat to tolerances required by the tile council of north America. Thanks for watching!
thanks for the vid. your audio is directional. would be better if you figured that out, talking behind the camera. 2nd mic...or dont talk behind the camera :) just one guys opinion
Prep is crucial with lft's, how you didn't you see that??(probably concentrated on making a video and getting them likes)... as you mentioned, a 1 day job is now 3+ day job.. explain that to the customer, but, then of course bill them for it because "the substrate was not level"... too many people making how to tile videos not knowing how to tile, seems like they are also learning of off another TH-cam video who doesn't know.... also, installing the rest of the floor on top of recently installed tile?! LFT or not, why not work your way out without having to be on the tile( especially if you are dry laying anyway)
Dinky cuts against the tub and took 2 days for 40sqft? Man u guys are draining that customers bank 😂😂, sad. How can u miss a hump with that small of a floor even after prep? Js, thats pretty bad.
You showed how to fix/repair a problem. That's golden.
Yes! Glad it helped !
So good to see the facts about fixing mistakes. So many "instructors" would have cut this out or just glazed over it and not shown that it could be done right. And I love the look of these large format tiles. Thx for sharing it.
I think it’s amazing that you show the problems that can arise and how to resolve them. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for showing some of the real life issues and a great solution. Excellent video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Pro tip, you can’t self level up to a major hump. You must address the high spot first then you can self level any remaining low areas/ variation in substrate. Love that you took the time to fix it and produce quality finished product.
I loved this video mostly because of the problem you had and the solution you both came up with to fix it. Things definitely don't always go as planned and like you said when (not if) those issues come up you make it right and then move on. But I will say when you move on you always take that lesson with you because it's always good to learn something from each job you do which will make that one even better. Thanks again for showing us this video because it was real ... I really like that.
Just came across a similar issue and am just going to self level it to get the best result. It will be the first time I do it but watching your videos has given me SOME confidence on how to do it. Great Video and look forward to the next.
Thanks for watching! glad I can help. We would have self leveled but we didn't want to build up the floor too much as the floor outside the bathroom is LVP. But if you have the room to do so, I would also self level. Always a nice smooth and flat finish.
LOVE the fact you guys, cut the video to make sure you point this out about hump. People don't see things like such, because everyone shows the glamorous after with nothing in between. GREAT work!
Thanks for showing both the oversight and the correction l.
We try to avoid problems as much as possible but sometimes, it just happens ! glad you enjoyed it
I appreciate your attention to detail. I do 99% commercial and it seems to be rare that most trades take the time for that stuff. Site managers rarely do a good job at scheduling so it is always a rush to get in and get done.
stop blaming the site managers u no what ur worth so go out an get what your worth. but you have to be willing to take the hit
@@NunYaaBizz you must be a site manager
@@GaryGoRound-to7ld i manage sites because i have the sight to manage
@@NunYaaBizz so if you have 2,000 sq ft of tile to be installed and you schedule me for a friday, and it has to be done by morning..and you schedule other trades to be in the same space at the same time..that's my problem
@@GaryGoRound-to7ld now were on the same page
Thank you for sharing your mistake and how you've overcomed it. That deserves a liked and subscribed thanks again
Thanks for showing your error. This is the most valuable information.
I like the fact that you kept the mistake and explained the fix. . Question, I’m using 3 pieces of large tile for a fireplace surround (top piece and 2 side pieces about 5 x45 inches each approximately. Can I do with out using spacers? Originally, there were 3 pieces of granite without any gaps between the granite pieces.
thank you so much for sharing this information. It was very helpful for me. Keep all those projects coming.
Luv the Video , iam a beginner this experience that you guys have is huge for me . Keep up the Outstanding Work n Videos 👍
Every video I watch I dig even more!!
Love that you showed your mistake
Great job!! Thank you for showing your mistakes . To think I thought you were bullet proof, and wore a cape .
HMMM You are Human :)
OH HHAHA far from it!
Theses tile sizes are getting NUTZ!!! 16X48 holy smokes & I saw that training you guys went too where they're basically really thin countertops & are being called (tiles) LOL that cover an entire shower wall no grout lines... Some really cool things taking place in the industry. So glad you guys represent it to the absolute BEST of your abilities!!! And... do I even need to mention that you both are originally from Jersey?? It doesn't get any better. Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!
Feels like smaller spaces are harder to work with sometimes. Nice job fixing the floor to get rid of the hump
Thank you! yes sometimes a smaller space can be more challenging for sure
I've got the same problem. I have a rise in center. Like you I did not see it I used backer board and sealed around too. Now I have a quarter rise. I have no choice bit to to thin set the rise. Using 24x24 porcelan
The tiles are too big for that space. It is generally accepted that you should not start along one wall or have a very narrow piece on any side. The tile pattern always looks best if it is symmetrical on the area covered.
very informative excellent video !!
Glad it was helpful!
Any vendor info on that specific suction cup? Thanks, great video!!!
7:37 why remove the super handy suction handle before trying to manipulate the tile? Also you didn't back butter this tile but did the rest?
Rookie mistake... you should always check the floor surface for high and low spots and fixed them BEFORE you start laying tile!
Love this chick !! ❤
Great video!
Day 3 to do a 1 day floor is the story of my life!
Nice job. Do you check the large tiles also for flatness? I once had 12×24 ceramic tiles that were severely bowed. I had ordered tiles months in advance and didn't discover the problem until day of installation.
Yes typically we would do that. We actually have worked with this tile many times before and know it is made well.
The full T-shirt looks nicer on you in the nicely done videos you produce. I'm able to concentrate. Thanks
You should try using a vibrator. I saw the Thai guys using one on the TH-cams and i was wowwed. I will generally tighten up the tiles with the self levelers then hit the tile with the suction cup vibrator and it really levels nice plus it gives you better coverage on the back side of the tile. By the way, that lighted level is my Favorite.
Shannon! Can you tell me what grout you used? Was it epoxy grout? We’re doing our very first renovation and we want to avoid dirty grout as much as humanly possible. We were hoping to achieve this big bigger pieces of tile (so fewer grout lines), and maybe epoxy grout? Thoughts?
Where is your slope? Did I miss something? Thanks
OK so I may have just a bit of a buzz going on so let me try to say some constructive criticism… Guys spent way too much time, apologizing and groveling BUT, I want you to know that it was really really good to see how you recovered… we all make mistakes , a lot of mistakes in this work, we just try and limit them and hopefully, a easy fix!
Honesty is hard to come by these days so”I” just think a little less talking… Most understood and move on with the teaching point.
Right, wrong, or indifferent, showing the mistake, recovery was good you guys as well…
I just happened to walk by and caught this episode and I asked this question so let me ask this, with those XXL tiles had no slope for the shower?
Best of luck to ya and maybe you’ll catch this… I did mention a little bit of a “buzz” yes… lol. Be well…!
Sorry… didn’t realize this video was a year old… :/. =D
That’s an easy place to miss a hump. I probably would have shifted the layout towards the door to increase size of piece at tub. With tile that big, it could have looked like a half size cut matching the door entrance piece, FWIW
Yeah I cant believe we missed the hump lol I swore we checked the floors all different ways but it is what it is. We considered that layout as well!
Yes. Just over half tile at the door and tub would be best but that does require more cutting. They probably figured the grout lines would be hard to see so opted for less cutting.
I also have a hump behind my toilet. I think with all the pipes and drains coming up through the slab in a small area, the concrete guys can’t get their large floats in between.
You should've used self-leveling cement, quick fixed and effective.
I didnt see any underlayment like cement board or Schluter Ditra. Could lead to a problem like water leakage, wood movement, expansion, grout cracking. Looks like you applied thinset directly to the wood. Dry fitting cement board would have lead you to discover the hump.
I watched another video where they suggested not using big tiles because they're slippery and therefore a safety issue..is this not the case? Because I wanted to use bigger tiles untilI sawthat video.
The size of the tile will have nothing to do with the slip rating. There are large tiles manufactured with the appropriate slip rating for floors and even some with a grip coating. You can inquire about these while shopping.
What part of the world are y’all located? 😊. Thanks.
We are in Texas!
I never considered trapping are under the tile. That's probably why I am always fighting it and have a mess
Work live. We'll prevent you from overlooking mistakes.
It's called Self Leveling Compound. Available at any big box store or tile shop. If you never assume a room is square then never assume the floor is level. Always check.
yes, she said that.
Random pattern, 50-50, thirds offset. Have no idea what any of that means.
Always level floor before installing ANY FLOOR!!
Its good practice to self level a floor if you have the height, otherwise patching compound is a great way to get a floor flat to tolerances required by the tile council of north America. Thanks for watching!
thanks for the vid.
your audio is directional. would be better if you figured that out, talking behind the camera.
2nd mic...or dont talk behind the camera :) just one guys opinion
Thanks for the tips!
Look amature work never use treshehold at door
Putting in the cuts under the vanity is a waster of time and material…
I’m sorry but the small cuts look awful
Prep is crucial with lft's, how you didn't you see that??(probably concentrated on making a video and getting them likes)... as you mentioned, a 1 day job is now 3+ day job.. explain that to the customer, but, then of course bill them for it because "the substrate was not level"... too many people making how to tile videos not knowing how to tile, seems like they are also learning of off another TH-cam video who doesn't know.... also, installing the rest of the floor on top of recently installed tile?! LFT or not, why not work your way out without having to be on the tile( especially if you are dry laying anyway)
Even a novice DIYer would check the floor for flatness. What the heck are you doing giving out tile advise?
I’m distracted by your beauty…
Please don't use the "R" word to describe things. Professionalism is the best way to grow your channel.
It's a word, get over it.
Go away
Snowflake.
You just know he was double masked and triple vaxed when he wrote that.
You are so fkn 🏳️🌈
Dinky cuts against the tub and took 2 days for 40sqft? Man u guys are draining that customers bank 😂😂, sad. How can u miss a hump with that small of a floor even after prep? Js, thats pretty bad.