Historical Background: *First brought in Kolkata in 1856, later in Bombay and Madras presidencies, Delhi turns into commissionerate in 1970s *Policing based on the Police Act of 1861 Why need for such a system? Law and order problems in cities( student demonstrations, communal problems etc. ), Usually difference of opinion b/w IPS and IAS officers Features of commissionerate system: Police commissioner head of unified police command structure and to exercise magisterial roles as well, no dependence on magistrate, no dyarchy ( as per police Act system to be implemented in cities with > 10 lakh population) Pros: faster decision making, accountability increases, elimination of blame game b/w civil administration and police Cons : initial problems of adjustment, desirability and legitimacy may be questioned, police may have vested interests to their advantage, political influence , choice of commissioner critical must be a person well acquitted with wider knowledge
For the first time i saw Mr. Dua invited for a topic other than economic issues though it's good to see him sharing his experience on commissioner system..
DM will lose power. in Modi govt IAS lobby losing all the power.. Like lateral entry NSA more powerful than cabinet secretary Chief of defense staff more power then defense secretary
study only study babus are overrated and moronic the entire IAS babu system must be dismantled and thrown out. These babus have done their best to delay all development projects started by bjp-Modi a lot of these babus were well fed and on payroll of communists and congressis They are ofcourse still loyal to congress and want to put as many problems in Modi’s governance as possible. This babudom system needs to go
I totally disagree with DGP SIR point of view that it's diarchy present it's the distribution of power and it is necessary to have because concentration of power in one person without having any check and balance is not good and it can lead to conflict between officers and if this is so useful why not just end IAS OFFICERS post and put all relevant work done by him to be done by having whip of police and force people to obey rules and regulations See India is not a police state that only devoted in maintaining law and order there should always be an civil authorities above uniformed services and I don't think IAS OFFICERS are that immature that the can't handle law and order situation
@@Gpscstream i read newspapers religiously, but the thing is The big picture known for its significant conversation is worth listening, even newspapers today have gone biased.
Yeah everyone is trying hard to be politically correct right wing or left wing there’s no centre and we really need neutral and well organised structural debates and developments in every field.
Well,not experienced to say anything about the topic besides,just theoretical portion,what my concern is something will ur concern as well. Despite being already implemented in 61 cities earlier,what forces on ground to not coordinate properly so far as DMs and SPs are concerned ? . What message actually this move is trying to convey to the rest of the country,i don't know... Well,need to keep this element in mind to work effectively on ground...
Vishal dahiya sir please speak slowly .Anchor is not have to speak fast and continuously have a flow in speak but slowly . You are here to aware us not to just dictate .
But three will be more corruption because erlier there was a cut off between megistrate and ips so there were less chance of curruption but only there will be inspector raj ...government should think
Utkarsh Pandey now gunda in vardi is starting.... now complain aginst police is vry difficult.... they are only think about there power... but no one think about ordinary people...
Now DMs can chill and hangout over a weekend in case of riot..😂😂😂
Historical Background:
*First brought in Kolkata in 1856, later in Bombay and Madras presidencies, Delhi turns into commissionerate in 1970s
*Policing based on the Police Act of 1861
Why need for such a system?
Law and order problems in cities( student demonstrations, communal problems etc. ), Usually difference of opinion b/w IPS and IAS officers
Features of commissionerate system: Police commissioner head of unified police command structure and to exercise magisterial roles as well, no dependence on magistrate, no dyarchy ( as per police Act system to be implemented in cities with > 10 lakh population)
Pros: faster decision making, accountability increases, elimination of blame game b/w civil administration and police
Cons : initial problems of adjustment, desirability and legitimacy may be questioned, police may have vested interests to their advantage, political influence , choice of commissioner critical must be a person well acquitted with wider knowledge
For the first time i saw Mr. Dua invited for a topic other than economic issues though it's good to see him sharing his experience on commissioner system..
DM will lose power.
in Modi govt IAS lobby losing all the power..
Like lateral entry
NSA more powerful than cabinet secretary
Chief of defense staff more power then defense secretary
if it works I am fine with it.
All Lobbies should lose power
Kuch bhi
study only study babus are overrated and moronic
the entire IAS babu system must be dismantled and thrown out. These babus have done their best to delay all development projects started by bjp-Modi
a lot of these babus were well fed and on payroll of communists and congressis
They are ofcourse still loyal to congress and want to put as many problems in Modi’s governance as possible.
This babudom system needs to go
study only study ias and IPS are british era system to keep Indians oppressed
We need to finish these systems asap
Wouldn't it be better if you guys get at least one panelist who is against the topic being discussed?
For that The Hindu editorial/ opinion piece would come.
@@nikhilyede2819 haha ya
Good idea
Dr. Prakash Singh Sir Thanks.....👍👍
♨️😅.....Thanks RS TV.....Jay Maharashtra.....😅♨️
Also Vishal Thanks.....👌👌
Optional Kya Hai Aapka
Good dabate.. points were put forward very well
Thanq ESTV for enlightening the viewers abt the Commissionerare of policing in the country...
I totally disagree with DGP SIR point of view that it's diarchy present it's the distribution of power and it is necessary to have because concentration of power in one person without having any check and balance is not good and it can lead to conflict between officers and if this is so useful why not just end IAS OFFICERS post and put all relevant work done by him to be done by having whip of police and force people to obey rules and regulations
See India is not a police state that only devoted in maintaining law and order there should always be an civil authorities above uniformed services and I don't think IAS OFFICERS are that immature that the can't handle law and order situation
Your dream job is Ias am I right?
You are correct. IAS needs to be ended now.
Anil sir have fascinating style of exposition.
Thank You RSTV👍
Thanks rstv
Thank you vishal dahiya ji
Can't be there a structured criticism of the topic? Only prons are being analyzed
Exactly
Nainsi Singh read indian express “explained”
@@Gpscstream i read newspapers religiously, but the thing is The big picture known for its significant conversation is worth listening, even newspapers today have gone biased.
Yeah everyone is trying hard to be politically correct right wing or left wing there’s no centre and we really need neutral and well organised structural debates and developments in every field.
Mr. Ajay dua mentioned a point at the end
Odisha also has police commissionerate
Central Government should play a key role in modernizing the State Police Forces of the Country with more modern technologies and update the laws!
Finally, the topic l wanted is here.!
Dear Rstv where is frank sir?
Really?
Such instances demand 'Dear RSTV, be frank, where is Frank?' and not 'Dear Rstv where is frank sir?'.
Well,not experienced to say anything about the topic besides,just theoretical portion,what my concern is something will ur concern as well.
Despite being already implemented in 61 cities earlier,what forces on ground to not coordinate properly so far as DMs and SPs are concerned ? .
What message actually this move is trying to convey to the rest of the country,i don't know...
Well,need to keep this element in mind to work effectively on ground...
It's a first step of Autocracy
Feel...like Mumbai and DCP Singham
Means ayurvedic doctors now allowed for heart operations...... geography teachers will teach history optional.......yaas boss
Bring back Frank sir
Oye hoye first comment again....😜😜😜😜
Vishal dahiya sir please speak slowly .Anchor is not have to speak fast and continuously have a flow in speak but slowly . You are here to aware us not to just dictate .
Bail ko bail hi rahne do 😝😝😝😝power pane ke baad janta ki pitai honi taya hai 😁😁😁😁
But three will be more corruption because erlier there was a cut off between megistrate and ips so there were less chance of curruption but only there will be inspector raj ...government should think
Utkarsh Pandey now gunda in vardi is starting.... now complain aginst police is vry difficult.... they are only think about there power... but no one think about ordinary people...
🌷🌹
No please don't do that...
18:54 delhi has a commissionarate system but lawyers of delhi have there own commissionarate 😉
nothing insightful in the discussion today.
Haha... True
Thank you😊
Now Sp hoga. Dm
Nhi Bhai ADG rank k aadmi ko bnaya jaiga commissioner
Vishal dahiya overreacts..