Put the tilt screw at the front of the hi-hat. It'll keep you from chewing your sticks up when you use the shoulder of the stick on the edge of the cymbals.
@@CommonSenseMusician I started playing the drums in 1975, I chewed up a lot of sticks before I figured it out. If you put the tilt screw in the front, the top cymbal overlaps ever so slightly instead of the bottom cymbal sticking out and chewing the stick up. Try It, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
@@waltgdrums1 yes, absolutely. the side facing you. Line it up directly over the pedal. You'll see how the top hat closes over the bottom hat.. gives you enough of a lip so you don't chew your sticks up as much.
great content on your videos....Very helpful to me for my students....We need more like you....Too many guys trying to show off chops they don't have..Some very good instruction as well, but everybody wants to do videos...........We need this kind of knowledge.Most of us learn by trial and error......
I'm sorry, I barely know anything about drums. How does that affect? We had a set of Sabian SBR's at home (currently on storage until we get another kit) and I don't remember the hats having any markings for top or bottom, plus the weight felt the same on both hats.
In my experience, it gives you a different sound / feel. So it's like having two sets of hats in one. Give it a try and see if you like it. @@kumosworkshop
Do you prefer to have the cymbal adjuster away from you placing the Hats opening facing your or with the cymbal adjuster closer you you placing the narrower opening closer to you? Would one or the other lend better to a rock vs jazz style hi-hat playing?
I place the adjuster away from me, mostly because I like to see the opening, and I like the angle of approach. I don’t know if one would be better for jazz or rock, though! It seems like you could make both work. Thanks for the comment!
Wow! I always took this knowledge for granted because I've been playing since 1965 and I guess I just learned it from trial and error. The hi hats can give dozens of different sounds with the same cymbals, brushes and sticks, simply be experimenting at all volumes and techniques. Although I started out in rock, I switched over to jazz because the music is so much more musical. All good jazz drummers can play rock. Only some good rock drummers can play jazz. The best classic rock drummers started in jazz: Bonham, Seraphine, Danelli and many others.
@@hazardeur I only like jazz that I can tap my foot to. Random polyrhythms irritate me. It's like snow skiing or riding a bicycle, I prefer a smooth cadence instead of moguls or single-track. I will take swing, standard jazz and American Standards over fusion or bop, any day. That's just me. I also like pop, Motown, classic rock and other smooth music, as well. For those who do like the alternate forms of jazz, that's fine. It's nice to have a lot on the buffet table of jazz.
Now that I think of it... a small hole in the bottom hihat cymbal should be like a standard, for preventing air lock. I used a sound-edge hihat for a while, and when I switched back to regular hats, I noticed the air lock, I had to use more force to push the cymbals together and I felt the air coming out of the hats. Even a small little air-hole would help alot, I think, but I don't think I will drill my Paiste Dark Energy hihats XD
That would make sense. Drum shells have vent holes, why not the bottom hi-hat? There are some models that have holes for sound purposes or crimped edges (Mastersounds, etc.) that wouldn't need it, but the average pair could benefit from a vent hole. Great idea. Thanks for stopping by!
I tilt my hats so that they slope down towards me. This keeps the lower hat from cutting into my stick when I play the shoulder on the edge. Great question - thanks for asking!
New drummers are going to LOVE THIS STUFF!!!!! I hope they find you and take your advice!! Keep it up 👍🏼 ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you!
Makes sense.
I didn't realize it is probably true clean hi hats don't ring out because they are moving at the same time muting the sustain.
Yep! There are a ton of ways to change it depending on foot pressure, the clutch setting, tilter angle, etc. Thanks for stopping by!
These are great. More please!
Coming up!
Put the tilt screw at the front of the hi-hat. It'll keep you from chewing your sticks up when you use the shoulder of the stick on the edge of the cymbals.
That is BRILLIANT. Wish I’d thought of that.
@@CommonSenseMusician I started playing the drums in 1975, I chewed up a lot of sticks before I figured it out. If you put the tilt screw in the front, the top cymbal overlaps ever so slightly instead of the bottom cymbal sticking out and chewing the stick up. Try It, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
That is brilliant. Thanks!
@vincentzito3933 when you say front of the hi hat you are referring to the players side correct?
@@waltgdrums1 yes, absolutely. the side facing you. Line it up directly over the pedal. You'll see how the top hat closes over the bottom hat.. gives you enough of a lip so you don't chew your sticks up as much.
What`s going on here? This stuff defintely deserves way more views!
Wow! Very kind of you to say. Thanks so much!
This channel must grow
I sincerely hope so! Thank you!
I never let my top cymbal get to the top of the rod's travel. Good Topic!
Thanks!
great content on your videos....Very helpful to me for my students....We need more like you....Too many guys trying to show off chops they don't have..Some very good instruction as well, but everybody wants to do videos...........We need this kind of knowledge.Most of us learn by trial and error......
Thank you! This means a lot to me!
Neat tip. Flip the bottom at to the top. Especially where there is a big difference in cymbal weights.
Yeah! I love this tip. Thank you!
I'm sorry, I barely know anything about drums. How does that affect? We had a set of Sabian SBR's at home (currently on storage until we get another kit) and I don't remember the hats having any markings for top or bottom, plus the weight felt the same on both hats.
In my experience, it gives you a different sound / feel. So it's like having two sets of hats in one. Give it a try and see if you like it. @@kumosworkshop
Do you prefer to have the cymbal adjuster away from you placing the
Hats opening facing your or with the cymbal adjuster closer you you placing the narrower opening closer to you? Would one or the other lend better to a rock vs jazz style hi-hat playing?
I place the adjuster away from me, mostly because I like to see the opening, and I like the angle of approach. I don’t know if one would be better for jazz or rock, though! It seems like you could make both work. Thanks for the comment!
Wow! I always took this knowledge for granted because I've been playing since 1965 and I guess I just learned it from trial and error. The hi hats can give dozens of different sounds with the same cymbals, brushes and sticks, simply be experimenting at all volumes and techniques.
Although I started out in rock, I switched over to jazz because the music is so much more musical. All good jazz drummers can play rock. Only some good rock drummers can play jazz. The best classic rock drummers started in jazz: Bonham, Seraphine, Danelli and many others.
That's a great list of names, and I completely agree. Thanks for stopping by!
just play fusion, best of both worlds
@@hazardeur I only like jazz that I can tap my foot to. Random polyrhythms irritate me. It's like snow skiing or riding a bicycle, I prefer a smooth cadence instead of moguls or single-track. I will take swing, standard jazz and American Standards over fusion or bop, any day. That's just me.
I also like pop, Motown, classic rock and other smooth music, as well.
For those who do like the alternate forms of jazz, that's fine. It's nice to have a lot on the buffet table of jazz.
Now that I think of it... a small hole in the bottom hihat cymbal should be like a standard, for preventing air lock. I used a sound-edge hihat for a while, and when I switched back to regular hats, I noticed the air lock, I had to use more force to push the cymbals together and I felt the air coming out of the hats. Even a small little air-hole would help alot, I think, but I don't think I will drill my Paiste Dark Energy hihats XD
That would make sense. Drum shells have vent holes, why not the bottom hi-hat? There are some models that have holes for sound purposes or crimped edges (Mastersounds, etc.) that wouldn't need it, but the average pair could benefit from a vent hole. Great idea. Thanks for stopping by!
I have a pair of Sabian fusion hats they have two holes in the bell of the bottom cymbal.
I absolutely LOVE those hats! You never have the air lock issue with those.
I have 4 rivets in the bottom of my Ziljian As for sizzle and vent.
That is brilliant. Would love to hear it!
Wish this was around 40 years ago when I was in high school 🏫!!!!!!!!!
Amen! That’s honestly why I started making videos. Hope it helps some people!
should you tilt towards or away from yourself?
I tilt my hats so that they slope down towards me. This keeps the lower hat from cutting into my stick when I play the shoulder on the edge. Great question - thanks for asking!
Yes tilt toword you like Mickelson fletwood mac
Love it! Thanks for the comment!
thanks homie. this helps, tbh. i have been playing 30 years and never thought of this... probably dumber than i thought.
I’m glad it helps. And I’m 100% sure there’s a difference between dumb and simple lack of awareness. Thanks for stopping by!
Sounds like you do with some room treatment.
Absolutely. I'm just getting started, and that is near the top of my list! Good ears!
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