What is the difference between brushless and brushed? "A brushless motor adjusts its speed, torque, and power supply to match the task at hand. It'll sense if you're driving screws into a light material like drywall or dense material like mahogany, and use only enough power to accomplish the job." THE KEY TO UNDERSTAND IS BETWEEN BRUSHLESS AND BRUSHED POWER TOOLS Which can translate for longer-lasting life and less maintenance. A smarter tool and can be faster and stronger when drilling on mahogany than a brushed DCF809.
Brushless drills adjust speed so the motor doesnt burn out as fast and the battery lasts longer. Theyre both great but this isnt a very good comparison.
The new atomic series from what I understand is supposed to be smaller but comparable power. I did a quick online search comparing my local stores and looks like I can get the 809 for about the same price as the 885 by itself not a combo kit. If they are gonna market it as a smaller but comparable package imo the price should reflect that. After seeing a few atomic reviews I really don't see the benefit with this new line over the other models. Perhaps the smaller head helps maneuver in tighter spaces but 3/4" really ain't much.
.75 inches makes a difference in tight corners, between studs, and around pipes. If your looking for sheer power, but don't care about size, then the atomic line is not for you. If you are going to be working in tight spots for extended periods of time, or just want the assurance of having a more compact driver, then the dcf809 will work great for you. I've had mine for a few years now, and have NEVER come across a screw or bolt that I couldn't drive or loosen with it.
Hammer and Home. Your question is If the DeWalt DCF809 Atomic is Worth it??? I would say in my opinion is YES! It is worth it. In the comparison between dcf885 brush and dcf809 brushless. The 2 impact driver have exactly the same specs when it comes to the RPM and IPM exactly the same 2800rpm and 3200ipm but with only the difference of Torque the 885 only have 1400in/lbs while the 809 Atomic have 300in/lbs MORE. so the way see this two technically dcf809 atomic is a brushless version of 885. And I have 2 dcf885 and they're both serves me well in the jobsite and at home especially when I'm building decks and I keep on changing their carbon brush more often but with the Atomic 809 I don't have to. So yeah 809 is a brushless version of 885 I would say while the new dcf850 Atomic is a midget, small size or Downsized version of dcf888 and 887. In my opinion dcf809 Atomic is Worth buying for especially for those people who doesn't like changing carbon brushes or maintaining their tools so much. I'm seeing now on Amazon, some Lowe's and Home Depot stores they're start selling dcf809 brushless impact driver kit only for $99.00 VERSUS the old Dcf885 @ $99.00 as well. Might as well go for the brushless Instead.
Hi mate, picked up a DCD709 + DCF809 with 3 2Ah batteries for £199 (GBP). Is this worth it? OR should I return it and buy a DCD796 + DCF887? Mainly for home use & for other people. Should be around the same price but will have to be refurbished or used drills.
Bought the atomic works for I need it to do , I don’t care how much faster the other impact is but I will say the batteries it comes with don’t last buy a bigger battery mine came with a 1.3
Thanks brother! I really appreciate this video 👊. I almost bought the 809 atomic. Thankfully just by chance Amazon has the 885 for 23% off this week. I bought it after watching this vid and seeing the obvious increased performance from the 885. Thanks again, great vid 💥💥🔥🔥👍
Here's more information about the differences between Dewalt Tools: DeWalt Tools: There are pretty much 3 "levels" with DeWalt tools... GOOD: 20v Max (brushed motor, less efficient, brushes can wear out although I've had zero issues with mine) BETTER: 20v Max Brushless (more efficient, no brushes to wear out) BEST: 20v Max XR (New updated even more efficient version of the brushless motor for more runtime. XR could have just as easily been labeled as 2.0).
I bought a set but returned it the next day for the Milwaukee fuel m12 set. An extra $75 bucks though. Changed it and paid the extra because of bad reviews. Gonna check out the video, do you think they’re worth it?
L. M they are definitely NOT worth it if your a professional. That said if your a handy man or DIY guy, then they are all right. And will get the job done. I like the drill a lot more than the impact drill.
For almost any applications that you want to do it yourself, trust me you want at least a 5 or 6 amp hour battery, and if you get lucky and find one at the pawn shop with a fast charger and a brushless drill like i did then you're banking
@@claydiddy63able Yes i have just about every size all the way up to a 9ah flexvolt. Bigger battery = last longer not big difference in power. Call dewalt and ask the yourself.
I had the same issue. I HATE the atomic impact. It takes almost twice as long to run tek screws in to 16g purlin. The drill is a good drill tho. 189 dollars wasted.
Honestly the Atomic tools are under powered. Comparing it to the 885 isn't even fair. I have a bunch of the 885's and the most I have to do is replace the brushes and the spring in the bit holder every few years. They just keep going.
How is it not a fair comparison? The atomic is supposed to have the same power at a more compact size and it brushless vs a brushed older model 885. Seems like it's a good comparison video to make..
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“looks about equal” proceeds to drive the screw on the older drill more 😂😂
I like my dcf886 the best I've had it for 3-4 years and it's still running strong.
What is the difference between brushless and brushed?
"A brushless motor adjusts its speed, torque, and power supply to match the task at hand. It'll sense if you're driving screws into a light material like drywall or dense material like mahogany, and use only enough power to accomplish the job."
THE KEY TO UNDERSTAND IS BETWEEN BRUSHLESS AND BRUSHED POWER TOOLS
Which can translate for longer-lasting life and less maintenance. A smarter tool and can be faster and stronger when drilling on mahogany than a brushed DCF809.
Brushless drills adjust speed so the motor doesnt burn out as fast and the battery lasts longer. Theyre both great but this isnt a very good comparison.
The new atomic series from what I understand is supposed to be smaller but comparable power. I did a quick online search comparing my local stores and looks like I can get the 809 for about the same price as the 885 by itself not a combo kit. If they are gonna market it as a smaller but comparable package imo the price should reflect that. After seeing a few atomic reviews I really don't see the benefit with this new line over the other models. Perhaps the smaller head helps maneuver in tighter spaces but 3/4" really ain't much.
.75 inches makes a difference in tight corners, between studs, and around pipes.
If your looking for sheer power, but don't care about size, then the atomic line is not for you. If you are going to be working in tight spots for extended periods of time, or just want the assurance of having a more compact driver, then the dcf809 will work great for you.
I've had mine for a few years now, and have NEVER come across a screw or bolt that I couldn't drive or loosen with it.
Hey nice video does that atomic have the quik connect I got the combo in layaway
"I haven't really used this drill. Just picked it up this week." I've never seen your channel before. I guess I'll review it...
Jason McIntosh thanks for checking us out!
Hammer and Home. Your question is If the DeWalt DCF809 Atomic is Worth it??? I would say in my opinion is YES! It is worth it. In the comparison between dcf885 brush and dcf809 brushless. The 2 impact driver have exactly the same specs when it comes to the RPM and IPM exactly the same 2800rpm and 3200ipm but with only the difference of Torque the 885 only have 1400in/lbs while the 809 Atomic have 300in/lbs MORE. so the way see this two technically dcf809 atomic is a brushless version of 885. And I have 2 dcf885 and they're both serves me well in the jobsite and at home especially when I'm building decks and I keep on changing their carbon brush more often but with the Atomic 809 I don't have to. So yeah 809 is a brushless version of 885 I would say while the new dcf850 Atomic is a midget, small size or Downsized version of dcf888 and 887. In my opinion dcf809 Atomic is Worth buying for especially for those people who doesn't like changing carbon brushes or maintaining their tools so much. I'm seeing now on Amazon, some Lowe's and Home Depot stores they're start selling dcf809 brushless impact driver kit only for $99.00 VERSUS the old Dcf885 @ $99.00 as well. Might as well go for the brushless Instead.
Hi mate, picked up a DCD709 + DCF809 with 3 2Ah batteries for £199 (GBP). Is this worth it?
OR should I return it and buy a DCD796 + DCF887? Mainly for home use & for other people. Should be around the same price but will have to be refurbished or used drills.
Did u keep it or return it?
RPM on the 885 is 2,700 vs 2,800 on the 809. Torque on the 885 is 117lbs vs 142lbs on the 809. In paper the 809 should be better.
agreed, but it sure doesn't feel like it.
I have the 885 you can’t kill them
The DCF 885 unbeatable old and still top gun!!
Hey nice post great job nice video..
Thank you! I agree still a great tool
You half to change the speed on the Atomic it's super fast and easy
It’s a DRIVER bro...
Like calling a drill a impact driver lol
Bought the atomic works for I need it to do , I don’t care how much faster the other impact is but I will say the batteries it comes with don’t last buy a bigger battery mine came with a 1.3
yeah the 1.3 are awful, i have so many of them that came with kits and i never use them.
Thanks brother! I really appreciate this video 👊.
I almost bought the 809 atomic.
Thankfully just by chance Amazon has the 885 for 23% off this week. I bought it after watching this vid and seeing the obvious increased performance from the 885. Thanks again, great vid 💥💥🔥🔥👍
For 150 for both and 2 batteries and charger is a good deal at Home Depot with a 3 year warranty
A hate when people call impact drivers a drill ha its not a drill!!!!!
It is. A drill! “It’s an impact drill driver “
Taking notes 📝
Here's more information about the differences between Dewalt Tools:
DeWalt Tools: There are pretty much 3 "levels" with DeWalt tools...
GOOD: 20v Max (brushed motor, less efficient, brushes can wear out although I've had zero issues with mine)
BETTER: 20v Max Brushless (more efficient, no brushes to wear out)
BEST: 20v Max XR (New updated even more efficient version of the brushless motor for more runtime. XR could have just as easily been labeled as 2.0).
When you say drill you mean impact driver, right? Or what do you call the one that most people call drills?
I bought a set but returned it the next day for the Milwaukee fuel m12 set. An extra $75 bucks though. Changed it and paid the extra because of bad reviews. Gonna check out the video, do you think they’re worth it?
L. M they are definitely NOT worth it if your a professional. That said if your a handy man or DIY guy, then they are all right. And will get the job done. I like the drill a lot more than the impact drill.
Hammer and Home thank you, glad I made the exchange. I am a Handyman do it yourself guy but want to be ready when needed.
Shame you didnt us the small batteries for those of us who want to use the ones that came with it and dont want to spend more for extra batteries.
For almost any applications that you want to do it yourself, trust me you want at least a 5 or 6 amp hour battery, and if you get lucky and find one at the pawn shop with a fast charger and a brushless drill like i did then you're banking
5AH is storage capacity not power output. That 5AH battery will put out the exact same power as the 2AH but will do it for longer.
Have you tried it with both types of batteries? Big difference in power with the bigger battery
@@claydiddy63able Yes i have just about every size all the way up to a 9ah flexvolt. Bigger battery = last longer not big difference in power. Call dewalt and ask the yourself.
@@MrWizards1974 made a difference for me
@@claydiddy63able lol i think it's in your head bud. They're both 20 volts.
While it should be the same power output it is certainly not. Try it out. Its not a massive difference but there is a difference.
Impact DRIVER!!
bad habit, but does also fall under the drill category.
@@hammerandhome fair enough..
I had the same issue. I HATE the atomic impact. It takes almost twice as long to run tek screws in to 16g purlin. The drill is a good drill tho. 189 dollars wasted.
Honestly the Atomic tools are under powered. Comparing it to the 885 isn't even fair. I have a bunch of the 885's and the most I have to do is replace the brushes and the spring in the bit holder every few years. They just keep going.
Bradley Williams how much do the brushes cost?
@@vojnikjna30 Brushes and the holder cost 10 us dollars
Bradley Williams thank you
How is it not a fair comparison? The atomic is supposed to have the same power at a more compact size and it brushless vs a brushed older model 885. Seems like it's a good comparison video to make..
People like I can tell this one is faster. Could be a biased judgment since no timer is present.
it definitely felt faster, i've also put a number of hours on it now and the atomic is slower
Bro wanted the older impact to do better so bad 😭
885 is still a beast
Dewalts 12v Max is as good as the 20v Atomic.
just picked this set up for $149.00 amazon
Define way faster.😊
i like my dewalt xr the best
You keep calling them drills. They are drivers.
Yea the brushed is better more power
it's a driver not a drill
cheers