Dewalt Atomic Vs. XR
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Want to see thanks so much for NOT putting music in the background so we could hear the tools work. Wish other reviewers would take some lessons here.
I learned that a long time ago. in my early videos I had music, but I stopped putting it in a very long time ago. and I thank you Daniel
100%
Excellent review. I went from old school (2009) dewalt 18v xrs to the atomic. I then got the 1/2" impact, by far the best investments I've made in years.
I am a career carpenter and love my ATOMIC drill , for drilling decks or hanging doors etc all day it is ideal, I even put a 600x16mm auger on it in speed one of course ,it powered it through 300mm of seasoned hardwood easily ,very impressed. I bought it specifically because I wanted a light drill and I am on the 18 volt platform ,if I wanted brute force I will use the heavier 996 . The 708 was never meant to match the 791 ,but It still punched well above it's weight.
people need to give the atomic line more credit then what people give it. I thank you for viewing Interman
I know this comment is old but I was looking more from someone who does finish carpentry or hang doors which is what I do. I appreciate this comment thank you!
The Atomic is sufficient for the occasional home DIYer especially if you’re on a budget if you’re doing 3/4 major projects a month or are a serious handyman then yeah invest the money on the XR. I went with the Atomic because I fall in the former category.
My dad has the XR line impact driver and Xr line Drill Driver. I bought the atomic drill driver and hammer drill combo with two 1.5 amp batteries, a charger and a touch system case for $150 at Home Depot. It doesn’t have the same power as the bigger dewalt and makitas and Milwaukee but I have the less fatigue from not having a heavy impact while at work.
I thank you so much for viewing :)
Nice comparison. Really appreciate the information - super informative. 👊🏼
I thank you Angel
Love your videos David. You inspire me to try my best to upload content aswell.
I thank you very much Otto's
the same XR vs the dewalt DCD 780.. brushed but very powerful.. another great video.. thanks
I thank you Icrene
I got both, but the atomic is my favorite just because of the weight
and that is why they made it and I thank you for viewing Mosaic
Really Really hope you do a video on the new makita 40v max XGT BRUSHLESS COMBI DRILL. Just came out so maybe some time. I got the dewalt 995 + 2 two dewalt 996's. But after watching you video about the makita dhp481z top of the range combi drill. And how much you liked it, I treated myself. And you are right sir. Drill is awesome my favourite ❤. So naturally can't wait for a vs video on the new bad boy from makita.
Ps another brilliant video. Thank you from everyone in the UK 🇬🇧 😉🍻
I want the 40v so badly
I have been curious to see a comparison like this, I really like that Atomic drill and only pull out a bigger one when I need the hammer drill function or when using big hole saws.
I love on how compact it is and I thank you dale
Excellent review!!! Thanks bro👍🏾
I thank you M Cutler
You really tested them. I like the XR's power.
I just bought an atomic set for the second time, I don't do heavy duty work so it was my best choice an it has a bang for the buck
Man Caver can you please do a comparison of the new Atomic from HD, the new brushless drill from Lowes, and the new XR which is available at either? That would be a great video! Thanks for great comparisons & content. 👍
I like the video and find this stuff amusing but when did we start treating drills as if we were taking them to the track
people want the best bang for their buck and this shows them that
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I wanna see a masonry test with all your hammer drills cause that's what I mainly use these drills for
more concrete tests are coming up and I thank you Weldon
Wanna? Use some damn manners half breed
I opted to skip the atomic drill and carry the xr and the 12v extreme drill instead . I just really like the specs , built quality and feeling of the XR, never rock my drills or driver with a bigger battery than a 2 ah, or a 4ah max, so weight to me, feels the same almost, if i really want to go light i use my 12v.
Crap!! why you keep saying atomic, and again XR and impact dril and extreme dril, you confused us with Impact dril and impact drive and exrteme dril and extreme drive. could you tell those terms you are using?
Hey man, great comparison like always. Did you manage to do the mid range xr vs Atomic hammer drills?
I have the Atomic impact and hammer. I recently got the XR impact. I plan to get XR 1” sds hammer drill instead of the XR hammer drill
I like the atomic because it is so small and light and it will do 95% of the jobs needed
I use the 708 like a dremel w/grip. The low amp batteries hamper everything. A 5ah battery on the atomic, drills and grinds everything quite easily.
im curious on if those paddle bits needs to be spun up first then fed into material? since most of those motors have overload protection for the motor that reduces the confuser actually getting confused on the poles
there are some tools that just cant handle the task. the bigger models of all brands can do it on high speed. but not these ones cannot
Thx for the video! Also worths mentioning that you can actually get the atomic line for "free" with Airmiles (Canada), which I got :-) And indeed, the line is perfect for DIY users, these are my first tools, I'm not gonna use them more than 5 times a year, and as a bonus I can use the same batteries as the XR... that's a great deal.
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I have the dcd 796 so theoretically it should be better than both. Still in that mid-tier category but it performs well, you can even attach a side handle if you can find one that fits, even though it's not designed for it.
I thank you for viewing :)
796 is 791 with hammer drill function.
The atomic drill is really good for cabinets. Plastic chucks are nice because they are less likely to scratch the finished surfaces, which the chuck comes very close to very often. And it's ratcheting which is very nice.
It's also lighter and every bit helps because you are very often holding it above your head. Same goes for the tiny starter batteries it comes with. It's real handy to have 3 or 4 of those things. They're fine when everything you're doing doesn't come close to challenging the motor.
Being short is also very important when you are frequently predrilling things that need a right-angle drill. It may not be much but maybe it's one less time you need to bust out a special drill. The same goes for the hammer drill functionality. Maybe once a week I have to put 3 tapcons into something. It may not be the fastest hammer drill, but it is a lot faster than going back to the truck to get a real hammer drill that needs an extension cord and a chuck key.
Puts out enough power for holesaws, and the lower rpms here are another unsuspected plus because it stops you from smoking out said saws.
I really really like the worklight feature on my other drills and I wish this thing had it.
that is true and the light feature is awesome to have and I thank you for viwign Micheal
I miss your tool test videos man! You don't upload these like you used too! You always have the best tool test vids! Time has gone by and because of that their are alot of new tools! Bless us with more tool test vids lol
once things settle back down I will be uploading test videos. :)
I know this is an older thread, but I am curious how the dcd791 would compare to the milwaukee 2801...have you ever looked at that?
Great video man! Where can I get that hilti nut setter?
Atomic is ergonomic and powerful enough to drill wood. Love my atomic hammer drill and It's comfortable. Put mine through hell for 2 years and it's running strong.
I love the aromic line
The torque specs on the DeWalt DCD791 is 460UWO = 70nm or about 620in-lbs or about 51ft-lbs, just thought I would add that incase anyone is wondering 👍.
I thank you for the additional information Kristian
I'm surprised they couldn't do it on speed 2 with the paddle bit. Those drill kickbacks are scary.
only the big boys can do it on speed 2
@@ManCaverTools wear one of those solar panel blankets on your back wired into an inverter that you plug a corded drill into. 120v portable drill
Great video
Have you tested chuck wobble on these? I bought a subcompact Makita and the chuck has a lot of movement in all directions
I had the dcd 796 the hammer drill
It was a good little drill but the dcd 996 is even better speed 2 is the sweet spot for that powerful drill
I thank you for the input Ap
796 manual..... 1/4 inch maximum hole size in masonry
Sometimes you need to realize that time really doesn’t matter if it can get it done. On every test, the atomic could do it quickly, but not as fast as the XR. In my opinion, the size difference is worth it because it has the power to do it.
power isnt the only I look for in these tests
@@ManCaverTools exactly
This may be true in a diy setting but not in a professional setting. I understand that this video is not largely aimed at professionals in the industry, but significant time differences do matter. Having to drop to speed 1 for one drill vs speed 2 for the other drill won’t make much of a difference if you’re building a planter box or installing a new light in your bathroom but it makes a big difference when you’re roughing out a whole house. Again that’s not exactly the scope of this video, but when these tools are your day in and day out, time is money. Where I personally draw the line is stepping outside of my current platform for more power.
The best (and what many professionals do) is to purchase multiple drills as the required use arises and eventually have options for any need. If you only go with one drill you will end up in a situation where whatever compromise your drill makes (size/weight, speed, torque, durability - no drill has everything all in one) will be detrimental to the job.
@@joshuasutton2163 I'd say the time saved is nominal overall even in professional settings. The reason you NEED the better drill in that situation is to preserve your sanity. Flipping a drill switch 2500 times a day is ANNOYING
I have the atomic driver. Now I'm planning to buy tomorrow drill. After seeing this video. I think I'm getting the xr drill because of 50 cad difference. And the battery for the xr is 5AH it's a good deal. My question is will the battery of xr can be use with 20V atomic driver?
Does the dewalt battery and charger 110 v only or 110 to 240v for international use.
Very good information
I do thank you so much for viewing :)
Me encantan tus videos
careful what size drill bits used in either of these drills. the manual actually warns max size bits to use. if too big it ruins the gear assembly. composite gears unlike the larger dewalt drill with metal gears. I ruined 2 compact XR hammer drills, one using an 1 1/4" paddle bit and the other mixing roof coating in a pail with mixing paddle. dont get me wrong, these are great drills when used correctly.
Can one use atomic batteries on the XR? Or does the XR specifically need a different battery?
Can you use the atomic to mix thinset?
I was going to buy the atomic but now I'm thinking twice.
I do drill thru wood, sometimes concrete but only one hole or 2 a day. I don't know now.
So in general what’s your favorite power drill for everyday use?
I love using my 12v HILTI screw driver. I will make a video on my favorite go to tools
I own the 998 power detect hammer drill, go big or go home lol. It’s the strongest drill I’ve ever used
the power detect beat the HILTI hammer drill. you should check out the video
I have the same but that thing is heavy to carry on your tool belt. I have the atomic for small stuff. Im not gonna drill 1 inch holes without the drill with the handle lol. But atomic is awesome. Although I find myself just drilling almost everything with the impact.
Been dying to see how these two compared to each other.
I thank you for viewing Janes
Man Caver Tools thank you for giving me something to view
Don't die bro
Lee it was close they were about to call flat line right when this vid posted. Brought me right back out of it lmao 😂
@@jamesfair9751 glad u made it now u can use the tools!
It looks like the atomic did everything that the XR did (with the exception of maybe one test), and the main difference is that it takes a bit longer due to the stronger motor of the XR... the time difference is something that may not be a deal breaker for the homeowner/DIYer who does few jobs here and there around the house, but will make a big difference for a pro who's using this for hours daily... great video and I think I will go for the atomic given my use and taking advantage of its price and lightweight
Does the chuck of the xr fit on the atomic?
It was my understanding that the weight difference between the two, and the "compactness" of the Atomic line is nominal. Maybe next time break out the micrometer and the scale and show this? Just a thought. Appreciate the vid.
The atomic drill is definitely smaller. Not the impact though.
will do and I thank you Fuente
Atomic is about 495 grs lighter than the 791 according to the specs, this is not insignificant .
Hi. Would you take the dcd 706 or dcd 708. The price is the same.
Thank you
I thank you S.V.
Hey Dave which dewalt hammer drill is the best at drilling a masonry bit
I still need to do a concrete test against all of the hammer dills I have
Dcd 996 or the dcd 796
Do an Xtreme 12v vs Atomic line of tests!!
Good video but I can't see how the Atomic line is worth the savings, even for the DIY'er.
if you have the money id go for the XR
What would you recommend using to clean the handles of your drill/drivers?
Tub O Towels
I use a rag water and very little hand soap. dont want to use solvents that will ruin the molding
@@ManCaverTools you said click it back once to lock the bit into place on the Atomic, I own a DeWALT DCD777C2 drill and the manual says nothing about clicking it back once. Am I missing something? Thanks.
I'm DIY too, but I need a drill that will drill 3/4" holes in 3/4" thick steel. I have a 320 A welder and I do not work with it industrially, but I need it for my projects. : D
At that point just get delwalt's top end maybe lol
You can get thru that with the dcf771 just takes time
Actually I just realized something more; when drilling metal you want a slower rpm than when drilling on wood. RPM should be less of an issue.
As mentioned, the Atomic range has limitations, but as shown, switching to speed 1, gets the job done. Overall speed is probably less important than being able to get the job done.
Technical answer: The larger batteries DO NOT provide more power. It's exclusively run time. The "60V Max" is only for appropriate tools, but your AH (run time) drop by 1/3.
larger batteries allows you to use the power that is already there. the additional cells share the load more efficiently providing more power to the motor. ive already proven in hundreds of video across all battery platforms that a higher amp hour battery can do tougher tasks easier than a smaller ah can. Its not just duration
Have you reviewed the 805...
If anyone want a good drill but not to expensive get the Milwaukee m12 drill and impact driver kit 200$ for both 2 batteries and charger included the m12 line keeps up with the m18 line look it up the m12 line spanks dewalts 20v line 🤷🏽♂️
I love the m12 line and I thank you for viewing Samurai
Milwaukee here in the uk is exceptionally expensive, just the M12 drill is 160 pounds and that’s just with 2ah batteries, god forbid you want a bigger battery because you will be charged two thirds of the price for a 4ah battery and no case. Ridiculous price here.
I actually have both, idk why but I just do. I'm just a maker so I'm considering either selling one or the other but idk which one. So I went for a comparison video🤷🏻♂️
id stick with the XR
Stick with the XR if keeping only one.
But having two drills is not a bad idea.
I have one in each of my tool boxes.
One for carpentry. One for plumbing.
@@tor-arnemathiassen9278 but I'm just a diyer/maker, woodworker, idk what to call myself, probably a handyman too. But not on professional level at all. I don't do it for work. I just fix around stuff in my house.
We have the same gloves haha
Just buy only the thing you can afford and depends on your need. If your only a diy'er atomic will be more than enough and can finished same as xr
Man caver you should take apart makita 9.6v drill driver 6095d drill testing
I thank you for viewing ??
4:50 what is he doing exactly? click it one more back as in if it's on 15, click it to 14?
Hello man great videos :) can u compare the new festool tid 18 impact driver :) thank u my friend :)
once I can get my hand on one I will
Man Caver Tools You are a good man and great channel :) THANK U :)
Good bye festitooli;)) here it's place for ryobi dewalt makita milwaukee.;)))
Put the 12v extreme drill against the atomic! I bet it wins
will do and I thank you for viewing Clint
You should put the Kimo up against the DeWalt
will do and I thank you Robert
Have you used a drill before 😆 🤣
OMG THAT IS SOOOOO FUNNEYYYYYYY
he’s a ryobi fan of course not
LMAO, this is a comedy show. Some credit, the information was good.
My thought too...why would you use a bit with a auger tip with a power tool.....as they say not the brightest bulb in the box....
Who here still remembers the old "ryobi man caver" channel name?
edit:I like that you did a video on the old dewalt impact driver but can you please do a video on the old gen dewalt drill please?
I destroyed that drill in a test off of camera, the motor fried out immediately. lol
@@ManCaverTools how the heck did you manage that lmao
@@valercosara7403 1/8 twist drill through a 2x4🤣
Man Caver Tools I know everyone’s gonna say get a new drill but I still love my old 985, do you know if I can use flex volt batteries with it?
Your face felt that you are a big man, you sir, how beautiful your heart is
I think the reason people were calling the Atomic junk was because the 12volt DeWalt can beat it. 12 volt Lowes vs Atomic Home Depot
Id choose the 12v line lol and I thank you Howie Z
@@ManCaverTools Why the 12v over the 20v Atomic? Just curious. I recently got the Atomic
MCT 👍👏
I thank you Houng
Hi mate, picked up a DCD709 + DCF809 with 3 2Ah batteries for £199 (GBP). Is this worth it?
OR should I return it and buy a DCD796 + DCF887? Mainly for home use & for other people. Should be around the same price but will have to be refurbished or used drills.
id go for the dcd796 kit
i still lvoe my atomic because it's light weight and it get job done it can do what i throw it at about 90 % of job
They should have put a metal chuck in that 708 and its perfect.
I do agree with you on that one
The dcd709 that we have here in England is the hammer drill version of what you call the Atomic line in America and that has metal chuck
Because of our advertising standards/ requirements they are not named 20v max but called 18v XR line here in the UK
That XR 791 is an awesome drill I am a huge fan of DeWalt over the years but I’m going to go ahead and say I am very disappointed in DeWalt’s new line of compact drills and compact Hammer drills they are all underpowered and DeWalts impacts are just terrible including the aging dcf887 that wasn’t very good to begin with I use a Ridgid impact in place of the dcf887 I hope one day DeWalt can give us a decent impact tool and nice review on these two drills 👍
Mate I have the 708 Atomic ,I bought it to have something super light weight and easy to handle to hang doors all day or drill decks etc without getting fatigued, this is the point of it !!!! Since hearing all this bullshit about lack of power ,I did my own tests and put a half blunt 600 x 16mm wood auger on it ,in first gear it drove it into seasoned Aussie hardwood full depth not even sweating then I put a 100mm batten screw and in SECOND gear it drove it into 100mm seasoned pine and pulled it out time after time .Wtf more could you ask for from a compact light weight drill ?????
@@interman7715Well did you just read my comment or did you even watch the video? if you did watch the video no need in going on a rant over what I said and besides the dcd791 isn't much bigger than the 708 but is much more powerful if you don't believe my comment show some restraint and watch the video again the results show the difference in power and no huge size difference
I thank you for viewing :)
@@6548ww Did you actually watch the video ? I was surprised myself how well the 708 did! The 708 is almost 500 grams lighter than the XR , not insignificant btw, that's why I bought it so I could hang it on a tool belt all day without getting bothered by it .A true comparison would have been against Makita compact etc.
@@interman7715 I have both. I install 30-50ft. Guyed Telescoping poles on roofs ranging from small trailers to multistory mansions. I thought I'd enjoy the lightweight of the atomic more since I'm constantly full monkey up there. Then received a 791 in a kit with 887 impact for free from Christmas giveaway. I honestly could never go back. The durability on the XR is miles more. Drops and chuck scratches are a non issue. It took me like 3 days to scratch the chuck housing on the atomic. The motor on the atomic also struggles under many more situations. This indicates to me that there is extra wear on the motor and gearbox as well.
I also have an 850(baby impact), 885 brushed impact, 809 brushed drill, forgot the model brushless framing nailer. I LOVE DeWalt. The atomic simply isn't there when compared to the rest of their lineup. If you work with your hands and arms a lot the 791 has nearly 0 fatigue. Before I had my own tools I came from hand-me-down 18v dewalts from my dad so after using those every single drill feels similar in weight.
That nailgun is a different story using it is akin to lifting lady freeweights
Was looking at oscillating tools and actually spent 10 less on an xr vs atomic. Tool only on both. Have an xr impact and love it.
very good and I thank you for viewing Clayton
I would love to see you do a vid comparing the new atomic drill to this one in the video
once I get that drill, I will :)
I confused can someone help me? I lost my manuals.
Speed 1 is Low speed and High torque.
Speed 2 is High speed and Low torque
The clutch number ( on the ring ) is used to control the rotational speed ?
#1 is the slowest and #15 is the highest speed. ??
The symbol "drill bit " on the ring, when set it operates INDEPENDENT of the clutch, and run at full speed (highest one) ??
Thank You
the clutch is for torque control. it helps you set in screws to a certain depth so it will automatically stop. the high the clutch setting the deeper the screw will go in. but you can can find the right clutch setting for a certain sized screw you can drive it in to the correct depth in one shot every time for the same sized screw
I am at an impasse. I am a homeowner doing little diy's, buidling sheds and furniture, fixing doors, etc. . . I bought the atomic combo with drill and impact driver for 180USD....and I seem to like it. It is actually the newer line with compact batteries 20v 1.7ahn... BUT with the same combo in XR series with 2, 20v 4ahn at 280USD, I'm not sure if the extra 100 dollars is worth it. Can someone help me. I know I'm not a contractor and Im not going to be drilling foundational nails all day, but do want to know when an opportunity is presented my drills are ready. Its a one time purchase.
Which one did you get?
@@rastaman7140 there was a sale on home depo website. 1 flexvolt advantage driver, 1 xr impact drill and flexvolt circular saw + 1 6ah flexvolt and 1 5ah battery for 400. I got that instead...worked out well for me as i got the flexvolt leafblower and weed whacker...
Tell ya what, if I've got to drive lag screws on #1 setting with the Atomic, I'm fine with that. I paid $129.00 for my atomic hammer drill/driver and it's done everything I've needed to do. And it did it for $150.00 less than the XR. Smile every time I watch one of these tests and the guy says the XR is far superior! lol. That XR stopped at the same point on #2 that the atomic did and both had to be switched to the #1 setting to finish the job! Oh wait...the XR can screw in the 6" bolt 2 seconds faster? Haha who cares? Unless your playing racing drills.
I do thank you so much for viewing :)
Exactly and the 709 or Atomic as you call it in the states is shorter and lighter, I'll take that any and every day rather than a couple of seconds quicker and 541 grams heavier..... that weight difference is definitely noticeable when up a ladder in an awkward position etc and in first gear the atomic 709 is 26nm VS 796 at 27nm and in second gear the difference between then.is 70nm with the 796 and 65nm with the atomic 709. Really not much between them.
My thoughts exactly, even when I'm using 600x16 and 14 mm augers drilling holes for cyclone rods in house frames all day ,the Atomic is all I use now ,the lightweight is great ,I hardly ever use my big heavy drill anymore.
Great video thanks, can you use the 20 volt max batteries on those 2 tools?????
For the price, is it just better to buy Ryobi instead of the Atomic?
For a homeowner i would say yes. You can get Ryobi and Ridgid brushed drill and impact with 2 batteries and charger for $100-120.. I have the ridgid gen4x brushed combo and paid $119 online, sometimes the drop to $99
we will have to find out. I will do more tests on that and thank you Grand
I’d like to know as well. As a homeowner I bought the atomic 4 piece kit with 2 batteries and charger mostly for the recip saw, oscillating tool and impact driver. Paid $300 early this year.
mixwell1983 Only problem with Ridgid is they don’t make outdoor power tools but I do love my gen5x hammer drill and circular saw it’s a beast!
I have Ryobi and Atomic ,the Atomic is soooo much better ,quality and everything.
The 791 still on sale and get (2) 5ah batteries for $159.
very good and I thank you for viewing toolmat
Where?
@@ThaiNguyen-ny9yz Home Depot, search for Dewalt drill, add the $199 drill, 5ah battery charger, bag to cart... Then search for Dewalt battery and add the 5ah battery to cart, see price, went down to $159, you can return the extra battery for $53 if you want... Making the bag, drill, charger, one battery $106
Milwaukee impact gen 3 vs Hilti impact please :)
that video will be coming, I have both of those tools
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Nice one, but what is the defference between the impact driveer and impact dril and automic and XR. please answer me asap. thank you!!
Отличный тест! с габаритами устройств остались неясности
One back to lock in place on a Jacobs that is a TH-cam joke, no suck thing. LOL!
It actually does lock into place but there is a cost to doing it. you can easily break the chuck or stip a bit while it's locked. it does lock but I dont advise doing it.
Next video atomic vs Xtreme.😃
I can do that and thank you Charles
what kind of xr is that dcd or dck?
Seems he was comparing DCD708 and DCD791
DCD
would like to see 791 go against like 777
I live it de wolt
Dewalt is a really good brand
Milwaukee m18 surge vs m18 fuel vs m18 fuel-surge.
as soon as I get my hands on those tools I will and thank you DJ
There is only 1 m18 surge
Why use different size batteries on the tool
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If i remember correctly you used different amp/hr batteries per tool. Not matching say 5.0 amp vs 5.0 amp
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I thank you Eduardo
XR only mean extra run time the specs r the same in my opinion
but you see the tool power , I thank you for viewing Becky
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DCD708
0-400RPM, 0-1650RPM
DCD791
0-550RPM, 0-2000RPM.
speed on 791 better.
therefore, I see no reason to measure the drilling speed. This can be seen from the specification as well.