Can You Use the Baratza Encore for ESPRESSO??? | Grinder Test - Gaggia Classic
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- A lot of people are looking for a cheap espresso grinder when starting their home barista journey. The Baratza Encore is very cheap & affordable, but is it a good espresso grinder out of the box?
Tune in and find out if you should buy an Encore for your espresso needs 😊
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You can adjust the baseline setting of the Encore. It is set at the factory for course. You have to take the cover off and re=set the grinder set collar to set the baseline for the machine for fine grind, but requires some disassembly.
that was already done before making this video
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I did this as well, and on setting 10 the extraction time is 25 seconds
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 What about the mod to make it stepless?
I would love to see this with a sette 30
Sette 30 is designed as an espresso grinder out of the box, so it should do a better job than the Encore.
Excellent video, Goran. I like your new setup for this production, very nice editing by your team mate and better quality video output. Regarding the Encore grinder, the testing is instructive for out of box performance producing the espresso , as well as the useful user comments. Thank you and the team, amigos.
Much appreciated Ross 😁
so let me guess (im still learning) at setting 3 the extraction is too long so overly extracted ?
and setting 4 is not long enough ?
That's it mate 😁
Hi Goran, thanks for this. I've got an Encore and recently bought a new Gaggia Classic Pro. Yes you can brew espresso but. Lighted roasts come out okay but medium or darker tend to clump up. Single bean coffies are really hard to dial in. I'll be trying to get along with it until I can upgrade. Got my eyes on the Eureka Mignon Facile. I very much like their build quality and steppless grind adjustment. They're priced about the same as the Sette 270.
Cheers
That's right, you can do it but it gets annoying not having the grind range. It's also pretty slow when grinding for espresso, compared to the Sette. The Eureka grinders should also do a good job 😊
It seems as if you use extraction time as a proxy end point instead of just going for taste. Maybe it tasted good or bad or in between, but we’ll never know. I think people measure time because they may be insecure on what actually good tasting espresso is. Cover it up with foamed milk, sugar and cinnamon, and it all tastes good. BTW, I use a setting of 5 and shoot for around 45g of espresso. Takes about 30 seconds. It tastes okay to me, but I’m no expert.
Great video! I think the Encore is a great grinder and I pair it with my Gaggia as well. There is a Baratza Encore Stepless Mod that can help with many of the issues you pointed out. I recently upgraded to a Rancilio Rocky Dosing Grinder however, as I wanted something out of the box that felt Espresso oriented.
Another viewer pointed that out + I've seen that solution on a couple of forums previously. I did the same thing as you, bought a grinder that does the job out of the box.
How does the Rancilio Rocky deal with switching back and forth with espresso and drip/pour over?
Bill i have a Rancillio for espresso and Encore for pour over to eliminate messing with the Rancillio once it’s dialed in for a certain bean
@@KushalJoshiP - I already have an Encore so I can see that as a realistic setup. But I would ideally only have 1 grinder; I don't like too much clutter in the kitchen.
@@billfrigo7602 I’m in the same boat! I got a separate mini counter for my coffee setup for that exact reason. I can’t find a better way to have the Rancillio be the jack of all trades…. Don’t have time to redial in the espresso EVERYTIME I switch from pour over to espresso
I done all the Baratza encore mods/upgrades and thought it made good espresso. Then I got a jx pro for the same price and realized the amazing flavors I was missing. The encore went in the garbage
And your jx pro would go in the garbage if you bought a Niche so it's all relative.
@@bluemystic7501 wow, what an incredibly fair comparison. Yeah, my Ford would go in the trash if I got a Mercedes-Benz.
Could you play with mixed setting grinds. A certain portion ground at setting 4 and another portion at setting 3, then mixed together?
A bit fidgety but curious.
You need to open the machine and make the adjustment to the burr ring holder as per recommendations just one screw to move. This resets the range and makes it a reasonable expresso machine.
The purpose of the recalibration of the burr is to gain the ability to grind finer and has nothing to do with adjustment range. As you can see in the video, the problem isn't grinding fine enough, but rather being able to fine tune the grinds.
Just got the Encore ESP and all concerns were addressed.
WTF on Flair NEO I get on setting 3 like 10-12 seconds. Pressure is not going high.
btw, have you purged grounds between grinds?
Was your grinder calibration on the finest setting?
Bravissimo. Is the Baratza Sette 30 good for espresso? I’m trying to find the best budget grinder for espresso (only)?
Yes, absolutely. The Sette 30 will be more than good enough for espresso on a budget :)
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 thanks paesano! That’s fabulous news. I’m going to buy one for my wife’s birthday. Keep up the excellent content. Regards from Adelaide.
I bought a Gaggia Classic yesterday and am ordering a Sette 30. What else should I get for the Gaggia to improve the espresso it makes? Should I get a better basket, portafilter, wand etc? Grazie in anticipo.
@@thebusinessfirm9862 get yourself a VST or IMS precision basket and definitely a flat base precision tamper 😁
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Brilliant, thanks mate. What about good budget scales for the Classic?
Awesome channel! Appreciate your insights at around minute 9. I have an old Gaggia Classic + Baratza Encore and was able to 'lock in' my favorite espresso setting by experimenting with grind size and dose (because I only drink one bean). But it took a lot of trial and error.
Thank you Marissa 😊🙏
That's exactly what I was saying, it works perfect when you're using one type of beans, locked in ready to go 24/7 😁
Just curious, was this test done with the stock OPV spring? I'm assuming you'd get longer extraction times with a 9bar spring. That said, it's clear the encore just not the right tool for the job.
Hi, I had same setting at 3 on encore with my gaggia, but the espresso still come out too fast.
Try number 2 😊
thanx, just what i want to know
Hola TMB tengo una gaggia classic pro 30 aniversario y un baratza encore hace una semana ya le instale un PID de shades of coffee configurado a Su 93.0 C y el cafe me sale super amargo las extraciones van de 16 segundos hasta 35 y toda iguales super amargas ya he cabiado de 4 cafe en granos diferente y lo mismo ya me estoy volviendo loco me prodras ayudar aver si puedo hacer un cafe desente espero tu respueta amigo bean.
I have the encore and usually go with 17-18 grams of Lavazza Super Crema at setting 9. Typically I get an extraction time around 25 seconds for a double shot. Does this sound about right? Any suggestions?
That sounds right to me, but taste is the ultimate judge 😁
Sour? Bitter? Perfect?
Very helpful video, thanks 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Could vary the dose, tamp pressure or recalibrate the grinder for micro adjustments
I don't get any grounds out of my Encore below setting #8.
Thank you for a very clear explanation.
Just calibrate the ring to a finer setting?
That only enables the grinder to grind finer.
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Or you can adjust it half a click to get right in the middle. I’m about to take my chances with a used Encore (25 euros so not a big risk) as my first grinder and will probably upgrade the burrs to M2 (same as Precisio and just 30 euros). Hopefully between that upgrade and the fine tuning you can do at the ring I’ll have myself a decent espresso grinder that can also do drip brewing or even French press. Going down the rabbit hole of coffee… 😅
Thanks for the video, it is instructional and helped me know what I might be facing
@@Laimack Hi. Did this work out for you? I got a Baratza Encore as a gift and want to know if upgrading the burrs will get me close enough or if I should just throw it out and get a better grinder
Thanks for being very clear about the issue! I just subscribed to you. - toby
What temperature is ur espresso shuts ty
The PID is set at 94 celsius, so it's around that temperature
This is not cheap!
exelente video!! pensas que se podria dejar el ajuste un un punto intermedio sin que haga click, y sin nunguna modificacion?
Nice very straightforward and good experiment
Very helpful, thanx
Thank you
Loved the video!
A refurbished Baratza Encore ($130) with the M2 Virtuoso burr upgrade ($20) and the super easy adjustment ring mod towards the finer side turns this Encore into a more than capable espresso grinder. You can adjust the dose of espresso to do the rest. If you understand the basics of espresso extraction you won’t have issues, even at 6 bar on my gaggia.
Or you could spend a bit more, get a used Sette 30, and avoid turning a Honda Civic into a Ford Mustang 😂
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 HAHAHAHAH. Bruh! That was funny af.
I done all that and thought it made good espresso. Then I got a jx pro for the same price and realized the amazing flavors I was missing. The encore went in the garbage
At number 5 and 4, it may be good for pressurised basket.
I reckon that wouldn't be a problem at all.
Thank you so much for this! It was odd hearing it called in-core and not encore but I was really looking into these but now I don't know. Maybe I need to spend more for something that is more situated for espresso.
Man, you are simply amazing, straight to the point, no bullshit, thanks for helping me out.
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Tests of coffee grinders are quite superficial. Tests are done in a few minutes, do not show how the machine works when it has been in use for a while. One machine that gets good reviews is the Baratza Encore. It grinds just fine, but surprisingly rotates with the coffee, both in front of and behind the machine. After let's say 8-10 times it is also full of coffee inside that has not come out. If you knock out the residual coffee, you should have plenty of space, because here the coffee bounces out everywhere. The plastic cup, which is claimed to be antistatic, is probably not completely anistatic after all. If you are considering this coffee grinder, be prepared for a lot of coffee grains on the kitchen counter
I have no static issues whatsoever with the Virtuoso+/Encore. I don't get any coffee grains on my kitchen counter from it.
@@tobyearth I have now used Encore a bit longer. It has gotten better with time. For a while I considered dropping the grinder and finding another. I see how it goes. In all cases, there is coffee left in the grinder after each grinding. This builds up over time. It comes out by pounding it lightly on the bench occasionally.
150$ and still waste of money, thank you for the video, man! It was very useful 👍
I wouldn't say it's a waste of money, it's just not good at doing what it's not designed to do 😂