Will Will the fight he fought with one arm? Took more lowblows than loma took in the salido fight. Constantly headbutting and pushing his weight advantage on floyd, or are we talking about no.2 when floyd came recovered n smoked him every round!?? Castillio is always brought up as if he could beat a healthy floyd in the second fight he got shit on just hugging and trying to punch like the first fight
Watched Lomachenko doco, have to say, his dad (trainer) enrolled Loma into traditional Ukrainian folk dance for 3-4 years for footwork training. Rythem in boxing is a key factor and Loma mastered it through dance. His dad (Anatoly) is a genius for this. The next generation of fighters is one to look out for because they're watching guys like Loma
@@gamebred6995 1st time he lost salido was 20 pounds over weight and it was rigged judges and salido landed 41 illegal low blows without a single point deductions. 2nd time he lost was with an injured shoulder, a year out of the ring, and a training camp cut very short due to his shoulder. He would tear teofimo apart if they rematched, everyone knows it.
@@gamebred6995 bruh that’s the dumbest thing a person has said 😂 lost his 1st title shot because he kept getting hit below the belt, he got the title shot in 2 fights! He has made more great fighters quit than anyone else ever has before 😂 vasily would crush basically everyone in the league 😂
Shifting was around before Cus taught Mike Tyson the shift. It’s a beautiful tactic that is not used enough in boxing. If you anyone is interested in seeing it used successfully check out Gennady Golovkin, or Marvelous Marvin Hagler in addition to Mike Tyson’s use of it.
@Adrian Veidt How is he a hype job after losing 1 time lol. This is why we never get quality matches anymore. Anyone just lost 1 match and he suddenly became a bum
You know why Loma is hard to hit, he uses alot of head movement, and when he goes in and out using short explosive hops followed up with small circular foot work and motion to sustain strong offense while being almost completely in motion. In addition based on what I have seen in his footwork he moved around while maintaining a strong, balanced, and centered stances. In other words he maintains stances that ensure that he is centered with his mass whilst being in constant motion peppering you.
The guy was a two time Olympic gold medalist, greatest amateur ever, one of the most hyped professional debuts ever, and he only heard of him when he signed to fight Gary Russell?
@@iorekby of course I know who they are, and Lomachenko is absolutely in the running as the greatest amateur fighter ever. Sure, it's debatable, but I didn't think it was a particularly controversial opinion. Certainly not worthy of your hyperbolic claim that it's the "most casual" boxing comment ever. Hell, Rogan calls Loma the GOAT in this video! THAT is a casual comment. Saying Mayweather is the GOAT is a casual comment. Loma is objectively one of the greatest amateurs ever.
@@hugogirardisking Watch the video again, Joe doesn't call him the GOAT. He says he that the sport evolves, and Loma MIGHT just be the best fighter ever. Massive difference, and certainly not a casual opinion.
@@AkshayMhatre Wait, I said Loma might be the best amateur ever (in the discussion, at least), and another guy disagreed. I'm not sure which part of any of this you're referring to, but I think we agree. Maybe?
@@hugogirardisking Absolutely, he is the GOAT amateur. In addition to what you mentioned, 396-1 speaks for itself lmao. But I was pointing out that Joe never called Loma the GOAT, as you claimed in your reply to the other guy.
Everyone who knows boxing knows lomachenko is special, and has tremendous potential to be amongst the greatest, maybe even the greatest, but come on now bro, now is way too early he don't even got 10 pro fights yet lol
make it 11 and he just embarrassed the #7 p4p boxer into quitting, faking a broken hand. Stop going off quantity of fights, go off quality. Hes never versed a losing record or debuting boxer. He's only been in 1 non title fight. He won his first title in match 3, defended it 3 times. Went up in weight, won the title, defended it 4 times making all 4 fighters quit. These are not schmucks or nobodies. 3 undefeated knock out artists, no one had more than 4 losses other than salido. His first 11 fights shits on anyone elses first 11 fights and its not even fucking close. Give him his props...
lol142482 it is not about quantity but quality of opposition, especially taking into account over 300 amateur bouts... Unlike other fighters who would have fought 20 bums before fighting someone with serious skill, Lomachenko only wants to fight the best
lol142482 While ALL other boxers who turn Pro chose to build their careers by fighting bums and nobodies untill about fight no.20, Lomachenko at the age of 26 and with the record of over 300 amateur fighfs, decided not to waste valuable time What matters is the Quality not the Quantity of the opposition.
The real genius is his father who comes up with the training regiment for each fight and also trains his brain. When lomachenko was very young his father took him to Turkish dancing schools and after he mastered footwork he started teaching him how to box
That's impressive as fuck lmao, and his second pro fight? Of course it was decision lmao, think about how much better he got since then you small minded boyo
@@bro-vf8oq you're a loma fan for sure. But its 8-4 lopez Round 1-7 and 12 were lopez Round 8-11 mostly loma. He gave up too many rounds before fighting, he started to fight too late.
@@bashcranium7562 he started late for one reason!lopez has the most power in the early rounds and was afraid to get ko tried to take lopez to deep waters dint work lopez was a shark
He has foot work and technique and combinations like almost no other boxer. He sits in the pocket moving and setting up his shots so well. Just insane to watch. Doesn't hurt who his dad is lol
I'm a big Lomachenko fan but people talking about him like no one has ever used angles like that before. Come on now, go watch old Roy Jones and Pernell Whitaker footage.
Indeed. Always liked Pernell the best, but Roy Jones came along and knocked people out with a triple left hook faster than a blink and full power. Lomachenko is great but he is standing on top of Roy Jones.
It's not just the angles, but the footwork and balance he has when switching to those angles. Even Roy Jones Jr. didn't have that kind of footwork - if anything, his footwork was his biggest weakness and it showed in his older years when his speed and reflexes faded. I asked myself what would RJJ be like if he had better footwork, and the answer is Lomachenko.
Jeff Ladrillono it's not just about using angles... it's combination of many many other things including anticipation and ability to compute and break down the will of the best fighters by making them feel inferior
Loma is the goods. 396-1 as an amatuer and is taking the pros by storm. The single greatest boxer of the last 100 yrs. We are watching absolute greatness. i think he not only could be the best boxer of all time but may get the nod for greatest athlete/sportsmen ever. simply AMAZING!
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 aged fine, guy blew his shoulder out 2nd round and it was still a close fight. He'll take all the belts from whoever wins between Haney and Kambosos - if the Ukraine Russia War ever ends
Loma is an evolutionary step in boxing & saying he is the next Ali is a perfect comparison. Before Ali no heavyweight faught like that & Loma has brought a similar effect on all of boxing. His style looks awesome. Crawford is awesome as well & unfortunately he's to big for Loma so we'll never see that fight. Now Loma vs Mikey Garcia will be an awesome match up & I hope we see this fight soon!
Loma is a fucking legend! He's like....bap bap then dances round you, so you have to square up to him again, but as you are turning to face him, he's there an ready, and he hits you again 2 3 4 5 times.....unbelievable! He's a fucking best! I'd love to see a peak 130lb paq-man against this guy, be a hell of a fight I think.
The AJ/Klitschko fight just happened and this guy as usual couldn't have been more wrong about it. The greatest Heavyweight boxing fight I've ever seen.
Manny and Floyd are all time greats who competed (mostly) against the absolute best fighters in the world. Lomachenko is a flashy amateur fighter who’s faced average competition at best
Incredible Inverts 2 time Olympic Gold Medalist plus 3 World Titles in 3 different weight classes clearing out the lightweight division right now and you call his opposition sub par. You’re officially a casual fan
Blood Sports as a champion he’s faced less than half the competition of most of the other champions. That’s just a fact. If you don’t know that then you’re the casual
finally a guest who knows about old school boxers as much as joe does....Willie Pep was a Phenom...he once won a round in boxing without throwing a punch....that's how good his movement and defense was.
itsampofcourse Loma does weight over 140 come fight time. He was at about 137 when he fought at 126. Salido was close to 160 come fight time when he fought Loma though. Also he punched him in the nuts all night long. The referee Laurence Cole is known as the worst referee in boxing whos there because of his father. His reputation is the worst.
Word....it was still Loma's fault when it was all said and done. Just like it was Berto's fault that he got the billy goat treatment from Porter the other day, just like it was Porter's fault that he got clinched all fight by Kell, etc. But, if Loma is coming in that big then Rigo will get his ass whipped more than likely.......Rigo has REAL power, but he doesn't throw enough to deal with that type of weight disadvantage.
@@skletorylosses don’t mean anything. Your ignorance to the sport is what’s wrong with boxing today. The Haney fight wasn’t even a loss either. It was a robbery
He was out of his weight class against a fighter who has dominated in his class... huge disadvantage this fight was embarrassing for boxing... if you go back and watch his fights in his true weight class then you will see how good he truly is...
Listen to all you professionals, Everyone has their favourite fighter. Everyone has their own opinion, Too many people think theirs matters. Vasyl certainly brought my heart back to boxing.
THEOTHERGUYNATION the masses and the sheep were saying she was the best. It was pretty obvious that it was only a matter of time for the competition to catch up to her.
VL is a really good fighter and his foot work is arguably one of the best in recent times but 11 fights 1 loss is not enough resume to be the greatest... boxers way back would fight 10x or more than boxers now in a span of a year... just can’t compare past to present...
There are 2 types of 'greatness': when they do things that nobody knows how to do (like Mayweather or Lionel Messi) or when they do things that are possible but nobody ever achieved that level (like Lomachenko or Ronaldo)
@@veksone77 2 and 3 weight division champs and least amount of fights, 396-1 amateur record, made 4 or 5 people that were at least champion level quit, one of them being a 2 time olympic gold medalist. Have a style that's a hybrid and never really done before
Bro Loma got robbed in that fight.Salido landed too much low blow,he should get his point deducted. Dont believe me search it up. However the fight against Teofimo,Teofimo won by bit
This Russel guy doesn't Know shit if he thinks either AJ or Klitschko got bad technique he probaly never boxed a day in his life. AJ moves great and counters Well for a Guy his size
That hop has been in boxing since forever its just that loma sets it up with punches and doesn’t even start useing the hop until maybe like the 3rd or 4th round
Lomachenko is ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT........the greatest boxer who ever stepped into the ring. 2 different world titles in only 7 professional fights is just f*cking crazy & unheard of. And only 7 fights ( by then ) can only mean he's just getting started......but the DIFFERENCE is in reality, the guy does really have a lifetime of boxing experience due to his insanely long amateur boxing career...........nearly 400 fights. Anyone who thinks "he lacks true power" needs to go watch the fight where he took that 2nd belt. One of the most vicious KO's I've seen from a super feather weight in a very long time. And one of the most impressive wins barr none. HE'S LIKE A GHOST ON ICE SKATES IN THE RING, BUT PACKING A 9 mm IN EACH HAND. A 9mm MAY NOT BE AS POWERFUL AS A 44mag..........BUT IT CAN STILL BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT.
@@lime455 Not even in the same weight class........ you clueless little twerp. I could pull the same bullshit by saying: "Joe Calzaghe could knock Duran's ass out".......but that would be as ridiculous as your claim. Is it sinking in? Furthermore: NO man in the entire history of pro boxing has accomplished what Lomachenko did in such an amazingly short period of time. It took years & years for fighters like Pacman and De La Hoya to accomplish what could literally be counted in months by Loma. Not to mention Loma's insane amateur record along with TWO gold medals at TWO different Olympics. Now run along boy. Go ask your mother who the hell your daddy is. That should keep the two of you thoroughly busy & confused.........FOR MONTHS.
@@helmererazo3516 so what? That "Loss" on his record is as questionable and as big a joke as Trumps hair piece! Intentionally missed weight and 40-50 intentional low blows... If a "Loss" on someones record is a mark against a man for great things in the eyes of a few, then I question 'the few' not the fighter!
Fr 💯 a 21 year old Floyd that fought Genaro Hernandez for his first title fight would smoke a prime 130 Loma as well but ppl got too much hate for Floyd to admit it 🤷🏻♂️
@Brandon Fortino I just don’t see it being a close competitive fight. Especially at 130.... Floyds the best 130 pounder ever. Besides the footwork advantage for Loma, there’s nothing he does better than Floyd. That’s just facts 💯
@Brandon Fortino Floyd at 130 did fight off the front foot which is the exact reason I’m telling you this fight wouldn’t be close... Loma would definitely not be able to use his angles he uses on everyone with Floyd. Floyd is too smart for those traps and when it comes to the footwork Loma does have the edge but Loma couldn’t even use that to his advantage when he fought Teo... so he for sure wouldn’t be able to use it if he fought Floyd. I’m telling you it wouldn’t be competitive🤷🏻♂️ but we can agree to disagree.
@Brandon Fortino brah you just saying sum weird shit now🤨 I didn’t know you had so much love for ya boy Loma and couldn’t accept simple facts. Just say you don’t like Floyd and move on man. It’s so obvious Floyd is the better fighter him between and Loma idk why I’m even debating this with you...
People who say that Lomachenko is untested might not be taking into consideration his absolutely stellar amateur record, the fact that he competed at the Olympic level and is also a trained dancer with years of experience. What sets apart Lomachenko the most, for me, is the footwork and way in which he can control the fight by forcing his opponent to spend too much time trying to find him to be able to block him. I'm not anywhere close to being as capable or professional as this man is in the ring, but it feels good to know that my instinctive approach to boxing is at least similar to someone like this.
Nomachenko got two losses he will never be the greatest!!! He just has good footwork! Now that his bandwagon broke and everyone fell out of it Saturday night maybe people will shut up about him!!!
Loma had 200 amateur fights 1 loss with 2 gold medals. He came to the pros late, plus he got put straight into the deep end and never hand picked fights like floyd!!
They said that because they were enthusiastic about his boxing style, the greatest footwork seen in some time, amazing defense and also offense. No one was ever enthusiastic about Floyd, that's why people still don't like him, his fights were boring and defensive.
The reason why nobody does the inside hop like Tyson and Lomachenko is because it's a high risk move. Tyson... well, younger Tyson under D'amato and Rooney's guidance was able to do it because of his impeccable defense. Loma on the other hand just has mind boggling reflexes, speed, and balance.
What a stupid comment. No one claimed he made the most money. The criteria for best boxer is not his paycheck. Perhaps your IQ is too low to understand.
Lomachenko is showing why boxing is called "the sweet science". I've never seen anyone bring everything they have been taught into the ring, and look like they are in the gym against an opponent.
He had 2 olympic gold medals and 399-1 record in the amateur circuit before going pro and making people quit. He was easily the greatest ever at that time. Now looking back, you were definitely wrong lol
What an ignorant statement, Loma that has lost to Salido and Lopez is not even the best boxer in his weight class. He is fortunate that the is not facing the likes of Pacman, Arguello, young Duran or Salvador Sanchez. He already is 33 years, there is no more improvement coming and his skills are already in decline.
I love all the folks with hurt feeling acting like he didnt say “MIGHT” smh he said he MIGHT be the best he didnt say he is the GOAT yet but it looks like he prolly is
People who used to do boxing in former USSR countries (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and etc) they know that this is a basics of soviet union boxing school. Me personally I used to do boxing for 4 years when I was teenager because my dad is boxing coach. All this moves which Loma does during his fights we start to learn it from the first training as a basics. So Loma not and innovator of this technique but his style is pure example of soviet union boxing school. If you will watch fights of amateur boxers from soviet union in 70s and 80s you will see that Loma's style are similar with them.
Vasyl is clearly undoubtedly one of the best ever. I think he is the most skilled boxer ever! He's a two time Olympic gold metal winner, best amateur record ever 396/1, he is making top ranked guys as a professional QUIT!
Vasyl Lomachenko, 11 pro fights, 11 Title shots, nobody in history of boxing has a resume like that, and the one guy who beat him (he fought dirty AF) was to scared for a rematch and turned Loma down.
10, his first fight wasnt a title bout. 10 championship fights, 9-1(disputed) 7 defenses of 2 belts in different weight classes. No one touches his first 11 fights, not even close.
@@LetoAlGaib who is everyone? Because the judges didn't think so. And boo hoo , mayweather had to deal with dirty fighters his whole career and better compeition and more weight classes.
Lomachenko's the guy who got me interested in boxing again.
Pacino Heat In other words white guy who can move. Crawford does more.
G-man Bum Sosa was knocked out on 1 round vs Wiggins. But Wiggins is Black.
Yep... The boxing mix right now is hot and it def has a huge percentage due directly to him.
L D 😂😂😂😂😂 so Loma who has never gotten a million viewers is why boxing is hot? Loma a bum beater.
Boxing Resistance omg you are so fucked in the head, bet you also think that floyd is the greatest...
"Josua vs Klitschko is going to be boring" ... It was only THE best heavyweight match of the year.
These guys are awful with predictions but tbf, when was the last good heavyweight title fight before that.
ElSpewtardo I enjoyed the Klitschko vs Fury fight some what lol. But ya that is a head scratcher.
ElSpewtardo Whyte vs Chisora was insane
Best fight in years
Boring fighters.
Vasyl Lomachenko is a monster.
Adam A. Not exactly but he’s looking to be a newer age Floyd. Even tho he has a loss he’s been over dominating the people he’s taught
A serial killer... ahahahaah
Will Will the fight he fought with one arm? Took more lowblows than loma took in the salido fight. Constantly headbutting and pushing his weight advantage on floyd, or are we talking about no.2 when floyd came recovered n smoked him every round!?? Castillio is always brought up as if he could beat a healthy floyd in the second fight he got shit on just hugging and trying to punch like the first fight
He is the monster, monster's are afraid of!!!!!!!
Dylan Vincent Not even the same style as Floyd what a stupid comparison
Watched Lomachenko doco, have to say, his dad (trainer) enrolled Loma into traditional Ukrainian folk dance for 3-4 years for footwork training. Rythem in boxing is a key factor and Loma mastered it through dance. His dad (Anatoly) is a genius for this.
The next generation of fighters is one to look out for because they're watching guys like Loma
He's made more top boxers quit the fight than I thought possible. Instant Legend
Loma lost to bums
@@gamebred6995 1st time he lost salido was 20 pounds over weight and it was rigged judges and salido landed 41 illegal low blows without a single point deductions. 2nd time he lost was with an injured shoulder, a year out of the ring, and a training camp cut very short due to his shoulder. He would tear teofimo apart if they rematched, everyone knows it.
@@DcTrimwb6bc that's lot's of excuses
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 when real reasons become "excuses"
@@gamebred6995 bruh that’s the dumbest thing a person has said 😂 lost his 1st title shot because he kept getting hit below the belt, he got the title shot in 2 fights! He has made more great fighters quit than anyone else ever has before 😂 vasily would crush basically everyone in the league 😂
Before it was called the "lomachenko jump" it was the D'Amato Shift. Shout out to Joe for mentioning that!
Still called the D'Amato shift
Shifting was around before Cus taught Mike Tyson the shift. It’s a beautiful tactic that is not used enough in boxing. If you anyone is interested in seeing it used successfully check out Gennady Golovkin, or Marvelous Marvin Hagler in addition to Mike Tyson’s use of it.
Loma is far from done, but winning 3 titles in 3 different weight classes in only 12 fights?
Its like they give away titles for free nowadays smh...
@@joys8634 exactly i miss marquez, barrera, morales, pacman,
Horsedick MP Pac-Man still fights lol and wins
Adrian Veidt you’re a joke, he has a good resume, can’t wait for him to outbox teo and beat him too, teo’s only impressive victory is against commey
@Adrian Veidt Tell us which of your favourite fighters quit on their stool? My money is on Walters. I bet you have held a grudge since 😂😂
Boxing needs lomachenko.
@Arsenal K shut your mouth hater
abdullah umm... no
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@MUFC you go for man United hahahaha
@Adrian Veidt How is he a hype job after losing 1 time lol. This is why we never get quality matches anymore. Anyone just lost 1 match and he suddenly became a bum
ali got me into the gym, loma got me into studying.
Guess you failed 😞 the test
@@mr.o1333 shut up nerd
You know why Loma is hard to hit, he uses alot of head movement, and when he goes in and out using short explosive hops followed up with small circular foot work and motion to sustain strong offense while being almost completely in motion. In addition based on what I have seen in his footwork he moved around while maintaining a strong, balanced, and centered stances. In other words he maintains stances that ensure that he is centered with his mass whilst being in constant motion peppering you.
lomachenko is amazing
Who's watching this after Joshua ko'd Klitschko. Best heavyweight fight in the last 10-15 years IMO. Anything but boring my friend.
Who is that idiot that was trying to shit on this fight. LMAO! What an idiot.
chet michael lol you mad bro.
And UFC fanboys say boxing is dead smh
Stewart Harper one good fight does not mean that boxing is back, the UFC have better fights every two weeks that's why it has overtaken boxing
Kevin Jordan it was a heavyweight classic buddy give it to em
The guy was a two time Olympic gold medalist, greatest amateur ever, one of the most hyped professional debuts ever, and he only heard of him when he signed to fight Gary Russell?
Greatest amateur ever? Be serious. Ever heard of Felix Savon? Mario Kindelan?
This is the most casual thing ever.
@@iorekby of course I know who they are, and Lomachenko is absolutely in the running as the greatest amateur fighter ever. Sure, it's debatable, but I didn't think it was a particularly controversial opinion. Certainly not worthy of your hyperbolic claim that it's the "most casual" boxing comment ever. Hell, Rogan calls Loma the GOAT in this video! THAT is a casual comment. Saying Mayweather is the GOAT is a casual comment. Loma is objectively one of the greatest amateurs ever.
@@hugogirardisking Watch the video again, Joe doesn't call him the GOAT. He says he that the sport evolves, and Loma MIGHT just be the best fighter ever. Massive difference, and certainly not a casual opinion.
@@AkshayMhatre Wait, I said Loma might be the best amateur ever (in the discussion, at least), and another guy disagreed. I'm not sure which part of any of this you're referring to, but I think we agree. Maybe?
@@hugogirardisking Absolutely, he is the GOAT amateur. In addition to what you mentioned, 396-1 speaks for itself lmao. But I was pointing out that Joe never called Loma the GOAT, as you claimed in your reply to the other guy.
His Dad Anatoly, mentally is solid as a rock! He's like a stoic philosopher.
😂😂😂🤣
Lomachenko reminds us again how beautiful boxing can be. The guy is absolutely amazing.
Everyone who knows boxing knows lomachenko is special, and has tremendous potential to be amongst the greatest, maybe even the greatest, but come on now bro, now is way too early he don't even got 10 pro fights yet lol
make it 11 and he just embarrassed the #7 p4p boxer into quitting, faking a broken hand. Stop going off quantity of fights, go off quality. Hes never versed a losing record or debuting boxer. He's only been in 1 non title fight. He won his first title in match 3, defended it 3 times. Went up in weight, won the title, defended it 4 times making all 4 fighters quit. These are not schmucks or nobodies. 3 undefeated knock out artists, no one had more than 4 losses other than salido. His first 11 fights shits on anyone elses first 11 fights and its not even fucking close. Give him his props...
lol142482 it is not about quantity but quality of opposition, especially taking into account over 300 amateur bouts...
Unlike other fighters who would have fought 20 bums before fighting someone with serious skill, Lomachenko only wants to fight the best
lol142482 hence "might be the goat" implying that some day Loma might be .
lol142482
While ALL other boxers who turn Pro chose to build their careers by fighting bums and nobodies untill about fight no.20, Lomachenko at the age of 26 and with the record of over 300 amateur fighfs, decided not to waste valuable time
What matters is the Quality not the Quantity of the opposition.
Loma had close fights his size? Or you talking about someone else? Because Loma is making people quit without even finishing the fight
The real genius is his father who comes up with the training regiment for each fight and also trains his brain. When lomachenko was very young his father took him to Turkish dancing schools and after he mastered footwork he started teaching him how to box
Onix Junes I always thought people who knew how to dance could really do well in boxing. You learn how to move your legs.
Not Turkish UKRAINIAN
Turkish? Derp.
well, i am turkish and i have to say that you dont need special footwork for our dance.
That's a great idea
398 amateur fights 396 wins - yeah just saying :)
He has only 1 loss in the amateurs
That's impressive as fuck lmao, and his second pro fight? Of course it was decision lmao, think about how much better he got since then you small minded boyo
Orlando “el city” Salido ... just sayin
He’s not the only person to have a bunch of amateur fights and only lose 1
@@anthonybreland4444 400 isn't a bunch man
Who’s here after his loss?Rip in the chat
Big f
I thought it was a draw but judges decision
2ND LOSS. And I’m waiting for the next podcast where Joe acts like he knows who Teofimo Lopez was and how he knew this and that....lmaooooo
@@bro-vf8oq you're a loma fan for sure. But its 8-4 lopez
Round 1-7 and 12 were lopez
Round 8-11 mostly loma.
He gave up too many rounds before fighting, he started to fight too late.
@@bashcranium7562 he started late for one reason!lopez has the most power in the early rounds and was afraid to get ko tried to take lopez to deep waters dint work lopez was a shark
He has foot work and technique and combinations like almost no other boxer. He sits in the pocket moving and setting up his shots so well. Just insane to watch. Doesn't hurt who his dad is lol
I'm a big Lomachenko fan but people talking about him like no one has ever used angles like that before. Come on now, go watch old Roy Jones and Pernell Whitaker footage.
Indeed. Always liked Pernell the best, but Roy Jones came along and knocked people out with a triple left hook faster than a blink and full power. Lomachenko is great but he is standing on top of Roy Jones.
It's not just the angles, but the footwork and balance he has when switching to those angles. Even Roy Jones Jr. didn't have that kind of footwork - if anything, his footwork was his biggest weakness and it showed in his older years when his speed and reflexes faded. I asked myself what would RJJ be like if he had better footwork, and the answer is Lomachenko.
Nobody has used angles like that before, the way he seemingly hops to someones side and back again is unheard of.
Jeff Ladrillono it's not just about using angles... it's combination of many many other things including anticipation and ability to compute and break down the will of the best fighters by making them feel inferior
Loma has a different style and is in my opinion top 10 ever
Loma is the goods. 396-1 as an amatuer and is taking the pros by storm. The single greatest boxer of the last 100 yrs. We are watching absolute greatness. i think he not only could be the best boxer of all time but may get the nod for greatest athlete/sportsmen ever. simply AMAZING!
"Rhonda will rag doll all the men in every division" - joe rogan
Hahahaha
To be fair she could easily do that to untrained men
hes opinions are worthless to me man lol
@The SN real life is a racist movie. Ronda is black actually
Abdi Marmalade this video proves that point even more after his last fight. 😂😂😂
Joe "It's entirely possible that Ronda can KO Floyd" Rogan
'If he stood still'
here comes the bruuuuh moment
You know rogan smoking crack for sure..
Lmao 😂 the greatest female fighter ever! She can beat men!!
Facts this dude only speaks in extremes
he’s changed and he has raised This boxing sport to another level that makes LOMACHENKO the best No body does it better
Say what now? 😂
This didn't age well.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 aged fine, guy blew his shoulder out 2nd round and it was still a close fight. He'll take all the belts from whoever wins between Haney and Kambosos - if the Ukraine Russia War ever ends
@@CornPopWazABadDudewell this didn’t age well
The guy said the Joshua and Klitscho fight would be boring, turned out to probably be the most entertaining fight of the decade lol
No
Not even close
It wasn't even the most entertaining Joshua fight of the decade.
True it was exciting. The Fury Wilder 3 and Usyk Joshua were tremendous as well.
Lomachenko is the best All time {{{ AMATEUR }}}} Pound 4 Pound fighter
amature fighting kids not profesional the big boys
damn , who’s here after loma lost :(
ME lmao,
guess he's not the best boxer to ever live lmaooooooo
Me I'm here to shit on the fan girls
@@ricardobarbosa-by4gz not the best to ever live, but definitely one of
lmao the best to ever live, better than Ali, Sugar ray, Mayweather, Jack Johnson, Hagler, just everyone! all time!
I have never seen anything like Vasyl, unbelievable.
He just got proof wrong again. This is the same guy that once said that rounda rousey could beat male fighters
Bro you got to send me the link of him saying that
Still doesn't take anything away from Loma's technique though
@@petergriffin6223 true
😂😂😂😂😂
well so much for that theory.
Supreme skill in boxing is only useful with adequate power.
Yea it didnt age well
@@djones24manlol his comment didn’t age well I’m assuming
@@nightmareonelmstreetwinner3958you were wrong
Wow… loma is top 5 alltime
The more Lomachenko’s career goes on the more amazing this podcast gets
lmao great white hype derailed
Loma is an evolutionary step in boxing & saying he is the next Ali is a perfect comparison. Before Ali no heavyweight faught like that & Loma has brought a similar effect on all of boxing. His style looks awesome. Crawford is awesome as well & unfortunately he's to big for Loma so we'll never see that fight. Now Loma vs Mikey Garcia will be an awesome match up & I hope we see this fight soon!
Loma is a fucking legend! He's like....bap bap then dances round you, so you have to square up to him again, but as you are turning to face him, he's there an ready, and he hits you again 2 3 4 5 times.....unbelievable! He's a fucking best! I'd love to see a peak 130lb paq-man against this guy, be a hell of a fight I think.
Lomachenko is the best I've ever seen and I've been an avid boxing fan for 15 years.
The AJ/Klitschko fight just happened and this guy as usual couldn't have been more wrong about it. The greatest Heavyweight boxing fight I've ever seen.
if manny and floyd teach one guy.. you get lomachenko..
Agree
Hell no
Manny and Floyd are all time greats who competed (mostly) against the absolute best fighters in the world. Lomachenko is a flashy amateur fighter who’s faced average competition at best
Incredible Inverts 2 time Olympic Gold Medalist plus 3 World Titles in 3 different weight classes clearing out the lightweight division right now and you call his opposition sub par. You’re officially a casual fan
Blood Sports as a champion he’s faced less than half the competition of most of the other champions. That’s just a fact. If you don’t know that then you’re the casual
Lomachenko is a great fighter but joe knows nothing about boxing..he thought ronda was a great boxer.
Indeed. I had to shake my hwad at Joes craziness.
Tacuma Dean lol do your research boy.
sad. Joe should know SRR is the best ever..
Sonia Bonia ah you might have finished joe with the Ronda thing!
zog noty ok Zog lol you are definitely not educated..learn English.
Facts. Loma is art in motion
Most overrated fighter of all time. 18-3 record
finally a guest who knows about old school boxers as much as joe does....Willie Pep was a Phenom...he once won a round in boxing without throwing a punch....that's how good his movement and defense was.
"Vasyl Lomachenko was never the best."- Joe Rogan 2 years from now.
haha
Well....what happen?
Yikes
Yautja Prime aged like milk
Haha ohhh....
I'd love to see Loma fight Salido again and then Rigo. Clean out 130 and then move up.
Adheil
Rigo eats before the weigh in to get to 126. Way smaller.
I think Rigo still wins that unless Loma weighs like 140 on fight night
itsampofcourse
Loma does weight over 140 come fight time. He was at about 137 when he fought at 126. Salido was close to 160 come fight time when he fought Loma though. Also he punched him in the nuts all night long. The referee Laurence Cole is known as the worst referee in boxing whos there because of his father. His reputation is the worst.
Word....it was still Loma's fault when it was all said and done. Just like it was Berto's fault that he got the billy goat treatment from Porter the other day, just like it was Porter's fault that he got clinched all fight by Kell, etc.
But, if Loma is coming in that big then Rigo will get his ass whipped more than likely.......Rigo has REAL power, but he doesn't throw enough to deal with that type of weight disadvantage.
Timemaster f The fight is happening and rigondeaux wanted it too happen and moved up 2 weight divisions to make it happen
Vasyl is 100 % the greatest boxer ever.
He lost twice
calzaghe? 🥊🥊
@@skletorylosses don’t mean anything. Your ignorance to the sport is what’s wrong with boxing today. The Haney fight wasn’t even a loss either. It was a robbery
Way to excited for Loma/ Lopez 2020
Been a fan since I saw TH-cam video of his three years ago it's a shame he doesn't get way more publicity the man is an absolute monster
Who's here after the Lopez fight?
Rigo has no quit in him... said Rigo.
He was out of his weight class against a fighter who has dominated in his class...
huge disadvantage this fight was embarrassing for boxing...
if you go back and watch his fights in his true weight class then you will see how good he truly is...
He only looked good in those fights because he wasn't fighting loma
+Chris R
Seems to be a pattern
Ricardo Hernandez
YOU PEOPLE PICKED RIGO TO WIN. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. RIGO SIGNED THE DOTTED LINE, YOU WERE WITH HIM AND HE QUIT.
+Traceable Logic
Rigo was a 'real' fighter, like Lomanchenko had never faced before. Funny, he quit just like the others. With less dignity, actually.
Joe Rogan says this about everyone.
Ive been following kickboxing since '99, MMA since 2005, but NoMasChenko got me passionate for boxing
in 2017. Hes really something else.
Joe "insert name here, best that's ever lived" Rogan
Ahah yes, but this time it's true !
@@pierrebridenne8870 not even close casual
@Aaron what are you saying bro why mayweather? Hahahaha lomachenko is not even close the greatest of all times.
@Aaron oh ok hahaha is for gervonta Davis right?
Yeah lets all just forget guy's like ricardo lopez😆😆😆
Gervonta Davis v. Lomachenko is the fight I need to see
Facts but boxing drags the fights out as long as they can 😭 3 years since you commented and there’s almost no hope for that fight now.
@@Ofwudann tank will never fight loma, he'll stay on diet of pillow fisted mexicans
At my sons Ukrainian dancing practice. Watching Lomachenko videos.
absolutely. the most technical boxer alive
Listen to all you professionals,
Everyone has their favourite fighter.
Everyone has their own opinion,
Too many people think theirs matters.
Vasyl certainly brought my heart back to boxing.
I’m 40 years old I was tought that technique from a guy name Mike Delaware when I was 12 at venture boxing gym
The same person who said ronda rousey was da best lmao
Before she lost twice everyone was saying she was the best
THEOTHERGUYNATION the masses and the sheep were saying she was the best. It was pretty obvious that it was only a matter of time for the competition to catch up to her.
B King she was at the time. She was the champ.
VL is a really good fighter and his foot work is arguably one of the best in recent times but 11 fights 1 loss is not enough resume to be the greatest... boxers way back would fight 10x or more than boxers now in a span of a year... just can’t compare past to present...
And she WAS the best!
There are 2 types of 'greatness': when they do things that nobody knows how to do (like Mayweather or Lionel Messi) or when they do things that are possible but nobody ever achieved that level (like Lomachenko or Ronaldo)
What has Lomachencko achieved that no one has?
@@veksone77 2 and 3 weight division champs and least amount of fights, 396-1 amateur record, made 4 or 5 people that were at least champion level quit, one of them being a 2 time olympic gold medalist. Have a style that's a hybrid and never really done before
veksone77 u are pretty stupid
@C C I dnt even get why people hate on him really
@C C maaaaan that's such a dumb perspective for people to take. Kinda sad too
It will be tough for anyone to top Sugar Ray Robinson.
Lomachenko's training is pretty awesome when it comes to training the mind. His dad leaves no stone unturned.
Loma is going to be making history as he continues fighting
Sugar Ray Robinson!!! Best ever.
The best boxer that ever lived would had never lost to old orlando salido!
Bro Loma got robbed in that fight.Salido landed too much low blow,he should get his point deducted. Dont believe me search it up. However the fight against Teofimo,Teofimo won by bit
@@richarles2antony213 he lost against salido... imagine thinking a 33 year old with a record of 14-2 is the goat
He hit him low 41 times and had a recorded 101 fouls that didn’t get called. It was a robbery if I’ve ever seen one.
This Russel guy doesn't Know shit if he thinks either AJ or Klitschko got bad technique he probaly never boxed a day in his life. AJ moves great and counters Well for a Guy his size
I agree dudes fucking annoying too
Look at his nose, that guys has been in some fights.
He knows nothing about boxing, totally agree.
That hop has been in boxing since forever its just that loma sets it up with punches and doesn’t even start useing the hop until maybe like the 3rd or 4th round
Never been done before. 'cept Willie Pep. Tyson, ALL the oldschool guys. Loma's just brining it back.
He's not talking about technically he's talking he likes him alot lol 😂😂
The tag line of the video is quite possibly the most egregious, outlandish, shit over ever heard.
Vasyl is one of my favorite boxers, very powerful and aggressive fighter, his technique is flawless. He deserves to have more fights. 🥊
Lomachenko is ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT........the greatest boxer who ever stepped into the ring. 2 different world titles in only 7 professional fights is just f*cking crazy & unheard of. And only 7 fights ( by then ) can only mean he's just getting started......but the DIFFERENCE is in reality, the guy does really have a lifetime of boxing experience due to his insanely long amateur boxing career...........nearly 400 fights. Anyone who thinks "he lacks true power" needs to go watch the fight where he took that 2nd belt. One of the most vicious KO's I've seen from a super feather weight in a very long time. And one of the most impressive wins barr none. HE'S LIKE A GHOST ON ICE SKATES IN THE RING, BUT PACKING A 9 mm IN EACH HAND. A 9mm MAY NOT BE AS POWERFUL AS A 44mag..........BUT IT CAN STILL BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT.
Lmao, Duran would knock his ass out.
@@lime455 Not even in the same weight class........ you clueless little twerp. I could pull the same bullshit by saying: "Joe Calzaghe could knock Duran's ass out".......but that would be as ridiculous as your claim. Is it sinking in? Furthermore: NO man in the entire history of pro boxing has accomplished what Lomachenko did in such an amazingly short period of time. It took years & years for fighters like Pacman and De La Hoya to accomplish what could literally be counted in months by Loma. Not to mention Loma's insane amateur record along with TWO gold medals at TWO different Olympics. Now run along boy. Go ask your mother who the hell your daddy is. That should keep the two of you thoroughly busy & confused.........FOR MONTHS.
Totally agree with Rogan on this as a hardcore boxing fan
Doesn't have enough fights? Dude is 396-1 as an amateur and 8-1(at this time, now 11-1) I disagree lol
Amateur is completely different from pros
I stopped reading at "amateur"
He was professionally ruling at the Amateur Level. Now he's Exceptionally ruling at the Professional Level.
@@tm5267 how he has a lost
@@helmererazo3516 so what? That "Loss" on his record is as questionable and as big a joke as Trumps hair piece!
Intentionally missed weight and 40-50 intentional low blows...
If a "Loss" on someones record is a mark against a man for great things in the eyes of a few, then I question 'the few' not the fighter!
Roy Jones JR wants To Know Your Location
Floyd would've schooled Loma lol 😂 at featherweight super featherweight or lightweight
Fr 💯 a 21 year old Floyd that fought Genaro Hernandez for his first title fight would smoke a prime 130 Loma as well but ppl got too much hate for Floyd to admit it 🤷🏻♂️
@Brandon Fortino I just don’t see it being a close competitive fight. Especially at 130.... Floyds the best 130 pounder ever. Besides the footwork advantage for Loma, there’s nothing he does better than Floyd. That’s just facts 💯
@Brandon Fortino Floyd at 130 did fight off the front foot which is the exact reason I’m telling you this fight wouldn’t be close... Loma would definitely not be able to use his angles he uses on everyone with Floyd. Floyd is too smart for those traps and when it comes to the footwork Loma does have the edge but Loma couldn’t even use that to his advantage when he fought Teo... so he for sure wouldn’t be able to use it if he fought Floyd. I’m telling you it wouldn’t be competitive🤷🏻♂️ but we can agree to disagree.
@Brandon Fortino brah you just saying sum weird shit now🤨 I didn’t know you had so much love for ya boy Loma and couldn’t accept simple facts. Just say you don’t like Floyd and move on man. It’s so obvious Floyd is the better fighter him between and Loma idk why I’m even debating this with you...
@@adrianherrera4795 Brandon Fortino literally said that Mayweather would beat Loma what are you even talking.
His guard destruction is A1. Shuffle, pull down one side, hook with the opposite arm and repeat.
People who say that Lomachenko is untested might not be taking into consideration his absolutely stellar amateur record, the fact that he competed at the Olympic level and is also a trained dancer with years of experience. What sets apart Lomachenko the most, for me, is the footwork and way in which he can control the fight by forcing his opponent to spend too much time trying to find him to be able to block him. I'm not anywhere close to being as capable or professional as this man is in the ring, but it feels good to know that my instinctive approach to boxing is at least similar to someone like this.
Who here after the Lopez fight? Lol
Nomachenko got two losses he will never be the greatest!!! He just has good footwork! Now that his bandwagon broke and everyone fell out of it Saturday night maybe people will shut up about him!!!
@@rm_bradford man i agree may they shut the FUCK up with that talk
2 losses in 18 fights and he supposed to be greater than 50-0 floyd?!
Loma had 200 amateur fights 1 loss with 2 gold medals. He came to the pros late, plus he got put straight into the deep end and never hand picked fights like floyd!!
They said that because they were enthusiastic about his boxing style, the greatest footwork seen in some time, amazing defense and also offense. No one was ever enthusiastic about Floyd, that's why people still don't like him, his fights were boring and defensive.
@@MiadNaghibi 396 wins 1 loss, damn and after that he fought he's second fight against a champion. 40 low blows and still took it to his chin.
Anyone who's taking on all comers is better than Floyd bruh🤷🏾♂️, why? Cause they're challenging themselves unlike him...
Vasyl "The Nightcrowler" Lomachenko Is brilliant.
The reason why nobody does the inside hop like Tyson and Lomachenko is because it's a high risk move. Tyson... well, younger Tyson under D'amato and Rooney's guidance was able to do it because of his impeccable defense. Loma on the other hand just has mind boggling reflexes, speed, and balance.
My coach hated when I used to jump in and out because he felt I would become tired to quick glad to see lomachenko doing it
This guy now should feel extra shitty about saying that Wlad/Josh was a boring fight
Lomachenko is 100% the best ever.
anthony bethel LOL 😂 10-1 best ever. Get a boxing history lesson, you loma nut rider
FUKEM !!!!!!!! He’s the best ever. You need the boxing lesson if you can’t see that.
U r right that's why he made 200 million his last fight .
What a stupid comment. No one claimed he made the most money. The criteria for best boxer is not his paycheck. Perhaps your IQ is too low to understand.
anthony bethel the best ever but he has a loss??? Negative ghost rider.
This didn't age well. 😂
The greatest ever is Sugar Ray Robinson.
Literally
Vasyl & Sweet Pea both have traits no one else will ever fucking have in boxing period.
Lomachenko is showing why boxing is called "the sweet science". I've never seen anyone bring everything they have been taught into the ring, and look like they are in the gym against an opponent.
He's got 10 fights. Why do UFC people always consider somebody "the best ever" after they go on a streak?
He had 2 olympic gold medals and 399-1 record in the amateur circuit before going pro and making people quit. He was easily the greatest ever at that time.
Now looking back, you were definitely wrong lol
@@Americanheld But he’s not the greatest
What an ignorant statement, Loma that has lost to Salido and Lopez is not even the best boxer in his weight class.
He is fortunate that the is not facing the likes of Pacman, Arguello, young Duran or Salvador Sanchez.
He already is 33 years, there is no more improvement coming and his skills are already in decline.
Floyd is 48-1. I refuse to acknowledge the corruption of the Castillo fight that he clearly lost.
Hallelujah Darien. Couldn’t agree more. Shocking decision. Admittedly Floyd schooled him on the rematch.
Lomachenko and crowford got me watching boxing again for real
I'm in love with the night crawler analogy...just beautiful
From Ukraine with love,not russia don't get confused!
I love all the folks with hurt feeling acting like he didnt say “MIGHT” smh he said he MIGHT be the best he didnt say he is the GOAT yet but it looks like he prolly is
Silly boy Floyd Mayweather is the goat
Or Roy Jones Jr.
Here after Teo Beat Loma
People who used to do boxing in former USSR countries (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and etc) they know that this is a basics of soviet union boxing school. Me personally I used to do boxing for 4 years when I was teenager because my dad is boxing coach. All this moves which Loma does during his fights we start to learn it from the first training as a basics. So Loma not and innovator of this technique but his style is pure example of soviet union boxing school. If you will watch fights of amateur boxers from soviet union in 70s and 80s you will see that Loma's style are similar with them.
Vasyl is clearly undoubtedly one of the best ever. I think he is the most skilled boxer ever! He's a two time Olympic gold metal winner, best amateur record ever 396/1, he is making top ranked guys as a professional QUIT!
How old was he when he quit the amateur and when pro
Vasyl Lomachenko, 11 pro fights, 11 Title shots, nobody in history of boxing has a resume like that, and the one guy who beat him (he fought dirty AF) was to scared for a rematch and turned Loma down.
10, his first fight wasnt a title bout. 10 championship fights, 9-1(disputed) 7 defenses of 2 belts in different weight classes. No one touches his first 11 fights, not even close.
And basically 400 amatuer fughts😂 he’s good but money may smokes him never mind Pretty boy floyd
@@lewisstewart8427 they're two different weight classes. But Mayweather thinks he's great.
Joe "I'm impressed" Rogan
How’s Lomachenko is the best ever working out now. You guys keep hyping up dudes.
Just cause he lost, doesn’t mean he isn’t the best - fool.
@@LetoAlGaib moron he is 14-2 lol
@@bigl3242 😂😂😂
@@bigl3242 everyone knows he didn’t lose against Salido. Get real man. 40 low blows and a shit ref lol
@@LetoAlGaib who is everyone? Because the judges didn't think so. And boo hoo , mayweather had to deal with dirty fighters his whole career and better compeition and more weight classes.
cmplete another level, that's the truth. I admire lomachenko, is awesome.
Totally agree on the nightcrawler comparison