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- The Truth about why Doctors and Nurses are leaving
This is a cold and frank look at life in the NHS. Today we are discussing why so many doctors and nurses are packing it in and leaving. Hopefully this will serve as a time stamp for when things change, and will give some insight to those who just cannot understand why skilled professionals who have studied for years have decided its not worth it.
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As a nurse of 8 years; it's the hypocrisy of my hospital calling us "heroes" during covid, yet telling us we can't get raises due to "economic struggles of the pandemic", meanwhile our CEO got his $16,000,000 bonus.
Lol.. That is so sad to hear man.. Don't worry brother, their wealth can't save them from the wrath of God.
And they will keep getting their bonuses and you will keep getting abused until you stop commenting about it on social media and do something about it. Why would they start treating you better if you just keep tolerating their behavior?
My mom was a nurse for 40+ years until a few years before she died. I know the hospital would have been scared to lose my mom cause she was also a nursing teacher/instructor at the hospital so she did an excellent job of training great nurses. I think covid would have been stressful unless she had been able to stay in her normal unit (labor & delivery) & was able to get a vaccine exemption. She would have been disgusted, scared, worried about $ since she made a lot more & paid for larger share of the bills. I can imagine how this would have weighed heavily on her & created stress.
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They should've raised the salary. Instead nurses and other departments took up traveling jobs and that messed up the whole system. Paying x 5 of your regular pay just to stay only for 3 months. By the time they leave they never really helped of anything they were a drag to the nurses who had to babysit them
My Dad was a doctor in the NHS for 25 years. We never saw him when we were growing up because there was so much demand for his time. He used to send letters to the government explaining the situation on the ground and ways to alleviate the pressure. He would just get a letter saying that they understand and they're working on it but it was all on deaf ears or they simply wanted the NHS to fall to it's knees. One day during an understaffed shift he was the lead consultant at a busy city hospital in London when he had a stress induced stroke on his shift. Thankfully as he was already in the hospital he got treated quickly by his colleagues and survived but has been in a permanently disabled state since. My point is that this chronic exhaustion takes years off of health care workers lives and our healthcare system has basically become one of pure altruism. No healthcare or social care worker is paid nearly enough or is not treated even fractionally well enough to do the job they do. They are all saints, I swear but the people in charge of running things are leeches who have sucked the NHS body dry.
I'm so sad to hear this happening to such a diligent and hard working doctor. I wish you both the best
Sounds good atleast, the part about colleagues attending to one of their own, and alleviating pressures. The feeling of saving a Doctor, before some walk-out while also turning into the Enemy to the industry. Ultimately, good outcome to your Father's recovering process. All the best.
Sorry to hear that. That should not be the case people are so stressed they fall ill at work. Our country does not truly value all these healrh workers.The NHS is really in an abysmall state and it is getting worse
I’m so sorry for what happened to your Dad. In Australia we are having problems too. But although Hospital Management have known about shift work health issues for nearly 50 years nothing has changed here. 😞
This is so sad to read.
I would like to also point out that Drs felt like their professional opinions were disregarded unless it fit a narrative and were threatened to be fired by their employers if they didn't comply. I cant imagine going through years of school, training, and experience only to be told "you have to tell everyone what we tell you to say no matter what your own personal experiences and findings are." I'd leave too if I were you. Screw that.
i agree. Studying biology for years, and then getting told to pretty much forget everything you learnt and now practise pharmacology....
That’s what I was hoping this vid was going to address.. that would’ve been hitting the nail on the head.
In many nurturing fields that were historically filled by only women, this happens. Teaching you work for free during your education for example. Low pay and also they ask you to do so many extra activities you’re not paid for and in. Urging they burn everyone out by expecting them to work well beyond what’s healthy. It’s kind of a built in ok take a breath I’m gonna use a triggering word 🤣 it’s baked in sexism from past. Nurses weren’t paid, it was womens “nature”. I’ve had three friends comp,etc,y burn out in every way, broke their health and marriages before Covid! And this was their dream. It’s so sad. They at least should be allowed to sleep. It’s crazy.
Fact is, government healthcare sounds good but it doesn't work if you want to actually get decent care in time before you die. Not to mention being villified if you didnt want to partake in the jab experiment.
Great point.
I left at the end of 2020 and went back to school. I was a dedicated nurse and counselor for over 15 years and this is so true. They treated us horribly during the pandemic and that’s the truth. We gave our all and they gave us no support. We were glued to that hospital and they had the audacity to not want to let us rest properly when necessary, then force us to work where we were not comfortable or properly trained. My child’s most stated memory of me is, “Mom you weren’t there. Mema and Nana took me.” Never again! I love the medical field, but I’ve moved on like many others.
This is heartbreaking
I'm so so sorry this happened to your family. I will pray for your bond between you and child to be strengthened again. Please know there are those that truly respect the sacrifices you made. My Mom is a RN and I used to say heartful things like that but now that I'm grown always tell her how proud I am her and sacrifices. I know your relationship will get better. Thank you for everything 🙏🏾❤️
I work in medical too...I can say the most evil, troublesome and unqualified are the administration. and the department managers.
They want to be more important than what they are. Some want to be more important than the Doctors
All Doctors, nurses and Technicians I work with were very nice, professional and pleasant to work with them
@@da5449 good to know thank you for being transparent
Out of curiosity, what do you do for work now?
The best doctor I've had in a long time was belligerent against the system. She saw a mother and baby before me and was half an hour late for my slot. She spoke to me with the same level of concern I get from my own mother. She reminded me of the good old days when Dr's had the time to listen. As a result she gave me the correct diagnosis.
Those are the only ones I trust (but still verify).
What did you expect ? You needed someone to hold your hand & say how wonderful you are ?
I haven’t gone to my doctor in a minute but I love my primary care doctor and have gone to her a lot during my childhood days. Obviously ever doctor is going to have a soft spot for kids because they have theirs too and it makes it easier to get a honest answer.
It is very hard to find a good doctor these days and even harder to find one who actually listens…they jump to a conclusion before you can even get out all the information which leads to misdiagnosis.
My dad was a doctor in another country before coming here in the US. He mentioned that the makes it difficult to practice Medicine
I'm an RN from the U.S. and recently lost my job due to hospital closure and, although it was a huge loss for the community, I've never been happier! The problem that I have now is that I don't want to go back. There are so many issues in healthcare, but administrators choose to look the other way. I'm over it.
I am sorry to hear that. I am in school doing pre reqs thinking about nursing any advice?
@@Pinesol605 I'm a nurse also but not the one you asked... ask yourself why you want to be a nurse and if you are ok working 12 hour shifts.. and taking few breaks if any. For some reason most all in Healthcare workers have a mindset its weak if you take a break, very odd.lunch is usually 30 min and it takes 15 min just to get to the cafeteria. Forget making phones calls or brushing your teeth. . And its hard work.. some hospitals, most are understaffed so yeah, getting someone to assist in turning or whatever it is.. there are numerous times the patient simply can't wait to get to the restroom for example and that's all it takes is one time to mess up back or shoulder or hip... advice is get your med surg in , 1 year and go to a specialty.. but by that I don't mean a clinic because clinics where you work 8 to 6 will hire medical assistants so they don't have to pay the hospital nurse pay for the skilled nurse.. I'm not the best for advise but there are many TH-cam channels, if the commenter doesn't reply... that talk about nursing , nurse routes to take, burnout etc... you coukd always do it for say 10 years then do something else...
Katie that’s good enough advice. I’ve been a nurse since 1986. It’s really changed. If you can find a specialty you like that would be the way to go.
@@Pinesol605 yeah
Get Government out of Healthcare!!!
Government controls hospital so the doctors cant treat the patients how they really should be! Therefore it falls upon Nurses as well!
Fact is, government healthcare sounds good but it doesn't work if you want to actually get decent care in time before you die. Not to mention being vilified if you didn't want to partake in the jab experiment. Fact is private healthcare before obamacare was working for 80% of people at affordable levels. Forcing millions of people onto a system by way of insurance admin requirements among hundreds of other government unintended consequences, has led us to where we are at now.
Yes great content I believe medicals no longer use to be the way it was before a lot going on rn! I quit my my job as an RN last two years ago after almost 19 years in the field. It was not an easy decision, but life is too short to dread going to work everyday. No amount of money can buy real happiness, but friends I'm not asking you to resign from your job or abandon your business but be wise!
Yes I don't really like my job but I love what it provides for me and my family. This pandemic has people rethinking working
Hello ma'am what do you do now and how did you plan yourself before quitting?
@@georgenoah4872 right now I run my own business and While I was still in service I planned towards early retirement, making about 2 to 3k weekly from my retirement investment portfolio trying so much to build more side hustles and extra income
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I am a retired nurse, who worked the emergency room for 25 years. Your presentation is exactly on point. Shortage of staff, low pay and complete sacrifice for your career is having a detrimental effect on many healthcare workers. I can completely sympathize with today’s doctors and nurses, considering other careers, and wanting to put their families and their mental health as a priority.
Yes everybody's doing more with less not just healthcare workers
My wife is a resident Dr. She’s currently in the middle of a 36 hour shift! No sleep. No rest breaks. Eat crappy food while running between patients. Her longest shift so far was 192 hours over 10 days. That’s 19 hours a day nonstop for 10 days. On her days off she must study and attends CMEs. Im so very concerned for her health.
People need to respect their limits and just say NO. NO CAN DO. Before they burn out. Say NO for everyone else! What’s with this wierd slave/god complex??? God ordered us to love our neighbours LIKE WE LOVE OURSELVES. How can people take care of others when they won’t take care of themselves??? Ah, right. Now I understand this euthanasia push here in Canada. Killem while pretending to still be gods.😢Institutionalized insanity.
That doesn’t even seem human to push someone that hard… bless her!
My husband is a doctor and I am very concerned too
If you imagine how many hypoglycemic near, dehydrated, near stroke residents fainted in front of me in OR, I’ve bought lunch to many who couldn’t find time to eat while their upper levels are resting comfortably at home when they should have been working side by side when them aiding them in merging theory with hands on practice, you’ll be utterly surprised. The sheer lack of humanity has no justification. Grateful that chapter of my life is closed. Take heed and take good care of her, she deserves it.
What?? She better leave that job and save her life.
Bullying is a ***huge*** issue in the NHS.
I have been working in the NHS (England & Scotland) since 2002 and bullying has been the "one thing" that has put me off from working full time and in a permanent job.
I genuinely love being a Nurse for every single shift I choose to work and I am happy with my salary but I cannot see myself working in a permanent full time job due to the bullies and that makes me sad.
Apparently its a thing here in Australias hospital system too.
@@primafacie5029 How sad PrimaFacie :(
@@primafacie5029 but everyone saying that Australia is the best place to work when leaving the NHS
@@francefarms Had a friend who left the job because of it
When someone disagrees with you and makes you do your job because you suck, it’s not bullying.
I worked in the medical profession for about 15 yrs. It was the most toxic workforce environment that I've ever experienced. When I quit, I discovered my happiness again. I was totally stressed out!! And I didn't realize that until I quit. 😊
As an old RN I worked in some of the best places and the most toxic places.
Long story short, there are always people who could speak up but they don't claiming they had house payments. As if I didn't too. Within a year, every time I quit, those units lost their accreditation and had to lay off people. But, every time, the toxics ones kept their jobs.
The truth is, that patients feel the toxic energy and they complain to the insurance companies. The insurance takes a look at the poor documentation ...then refuses to pay. I co-workers cannot support each other, believe me, the patients don't feel the "love" either.
Left nursing because of one thing - bullying from other nurses. Working in a place with life and death issues, bullying is horrifying.
And with no one to listen to my concerns, there was no choice for me.
As a patient, I’ve recognized how toxic these “professionals” can get. It’s surprising especially coming from nurses. At least here in the U.S.- you get 1 Narc in the office, and the whole place gets destroyed !!
@@mahlina1220 Nurses are human beings. The faults that people have are universal and the Medical Field is not immune. And, yes, just one person can cause incredible destruction. Sad. 😰
@@pjsmith4369 True, that one person can cause incredible destruction. I think the nursing profession sadly attracts a lot off very unkind, indifferent, damaged women who take out their misery on their colleagues.
@@rosieposie9564 Actually, it attracts many people who hope that they can help and comfort people as well.
Those are the nurses who end up leaving.
My sister was a career counsellor when I left and she was surprised at how many nurses she met who were trying to change careers. Very disillusioned.
@@rosieposie9564 Your right. Im a nurse at work right now, just starting a new job and I cant believe how rude, nasty, and miserable some of these nurses are. I don’t associate with those kind. Overall most of us are decent.
I worked in healthcare in Canada for 41 years. ( hospital support staff ). I burnt out during Covid and took early retirement. It’s not just nurses and doctors that burn out Hospital work is difficult overall and we are all part of a team.
Same here …. 25 years I’ve been clinical on the floor, research, leadership and medical staff to keep the frontline in good standing 16hrs or more. I stepped away to reset my path. Too many politics and not enough common sense it’s not the same. People were quitting all around me left and right and the load was getting heavier heavier and heavier. Burn out is real! Prayers to everyone in the Industry no matter your role 🫡
Nobody is disputing that. You can’t run a hospital without Drs and Nurses… they are under much more pressure than support staff. Support staff work under them, not like they are not amazing; but have no accountability. Before I qualified as a nurse, I was never stressed out as a support staff. Yes I felt the work load, but I just did my job and went home. Never had to answer to anybody and didn’t have to coordinate shifts and chase grown assed men and women to do their job!
@@cbenediccengi well said
@@cbenediccengifreemasonic tv stations ruined the fucking world.
Yes physios and occupational therapist s never heard - I’m on same pay as 2003 as a Locum - there were times when Locum S kept WHOLE service going- it’s the ot’s that r pivotal to discharge- the medical model has to CHANGE we need holistic care
I've never worked for the NHS but I wasted 6 years working in private care and 4 years studying biology. All for nothing. Private care suffers all of the backlash of the NHS, but sadly it's not often recognised. I quit 2 years ago and honestly you don't know how stressed you are until you leave and do something that doesn't involve caring. Most nurses, drs, carers etc love their jobs but management and government policies make it hell. Nurses are fighting for a payrise, but sadly no amount of pay will make it a worthwhile job anymore.
I’d also argue that the nhs suffers the backlash of an underfunded social care system, the amount of bed blocking patients because they can find placements is huge.
@@synns6898 it's true. It's a massive loop
How much does a qualified nurse ear these days? If you wouldn’t mind telling me. I am a retired nurse…..I retired early from it.
I have lost all contact with their earnings now….and would simple like to know…..thanks….
I worked 1 day in a private hospital it was horrible and hated it …. For various reasons…..😄🤪
@@Lucky-wt6fg 30k
@@mrsthatcher9815 yeush! Just 30k?🤦
As an RN, BSN. I've been in the medical field for over 20yrs. I have decided to leave bedside Nursing after covid-19. It's a horrible work environment, often being gaslighted by management. They would play on their staff's emotions to pick up additional shifts and when something happens, they're so quick to throwc us under the bus. In addition to that, the environment breeds a lot of toxicity amongst fellow colleagues. The doctors work really hard and are on 24hr rotations. Lack of sleep, mental anguish leaves all of us burnt-out. I would never go back again
Agree, I worked my full RN career, all areas these issues are long standing and well documented. Management magazines filled with coping options. The public and media has not helped. Now blaming nurses and doctors for poor outcomes more than ever. Things are not going to get better.
Same here. Former RN in Mental Health. I'd never go back. It's exactly as you stated.
@@jdoedoenet so what do u do now
Same here, working one day a week until I figure out my next move. 20 years of this is enough, I'm exhausted.
@@ancientaquarius1310 u must be rich to work one day a week
Since I have learned how to save, invest, and put my money to work to increase my income, I am not worried of losing my job as an RN (registered nurse) or leaving my employment. I want freedom to live my life as I see fit, not just financial gain.
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I’m a senior anaesthetic nhs nurse. Everyone of us who work in the nhs know its finished. Its done. Its over. The collapse is imminent.
If it collapses what will happen
It's a corporate field, regulated by profits and costs. Health, mental health and quality of life are slowly being removed of the equation. That is why so many of us have absolutely no confidence on so called ''medical expertise''. And that is a real shame. It's a numbers game, and that what patients are, numbers. The difference is now the staff is realizing they are also just a bunch of numbers. When a practitioner has over 1200 patients and also has to do shifts in the hospital, it doesn't take a brainiac to understand such practitioner does not have any time to actually provide quality health service. Mistakes are made. People suffer. Can this system be improved? Will it ever be? I highly doubt so.
I’m a medical student from uk studying in Europe. I was planing initially to come back to uk….
@@thatguy9196 please I plead with you NOT TO RETURN TO THE UK after your study if the country where you are studying is ok, you could regret it if you return to the UK. The situation is very, very bad. Imagine your worst nightmare! The politicians and their cabal have killed the NHS and other sectors in the UK.
@@olanikedunsin5020 I have been watching the news I do kinda understand it’s bad, but I have ask ; is it so bad that even coming back in about 3 years is not recommended?
I’m studying in Georgia 🇬🇪 but to be honest I’m not planning to stay here.
I’m an FY1 on sick leave for anxiety. I feel so so guilty but my body and mind has burnt out.I feel guilty because I feel others are working much harder, and I broke down before them. I’m so sorry to my colleagues and patients that are waiting and need help. I arrive early and the last one to leave, I cry when I get home and never get food breaks. Locums don’t show up. I deal with things I shouldn’t be at my level. My relationships have broken down. It’s gotten to the point I’m making mistakes which makes my anxiety worse. I’ve lost control of my bladder a few times which was embarrassing but was the final straw. I don’t know how I can cope with a whole ward of people on just me alone.
You say control of your bladder? What factually occurred? Sorry to read particulary that part, however it happens to best of most people when suppressed or under pressures unfarmiliar or ones that our bodies cannot recognise in certain subjected conditions. I was so anxious one time, simply to have thought to meet with someone after failed relations. You will be fine, at foundation stages, no matter your age; there remains so many explorable options to anyone. For a start, recognise giving-in or, "giving up" that is in fact, being kind and honest to our goal, aspirations and challenges of course. Work on asking for more help, no matter what! Not ideal clocking in and clocking-out after everyone each shift. Doctor🩺 and not employed caretaker. You got that. First steps, almost always tough and primitively very very vital. Blessed Thursday Doctor.
Politicians should read Caroline Elton's book, Also Human. It's scandalous the way UK treats its nurses and doctors. One Health Secretary recently said that nurses who didn't like working as nurses should get another job. That's how they treat them.
This post is heartbreaking. You have no reason to feel guilty.( Nurse of 28 years here, currently planning my exit strategy) Some of the F1 in my hospital are often covering 4 wards, solely,, it's unsafe stressful and relentless for them. Just look after yourself. No job is worth losing your health for. The NHS is worst I've ever known since I qualified. Be kind to yourself. Good luck for the future
I’m a retired nurse…….this is not your fault and please don’t feel guilty….. I’m glad I left nursing when I did ……I retired early from it as I didn’t really like the way it was going…..anyway that’s a long story. find your inner strength and get yourself better. Your obviously an intelligent person, nursing are…..so make use of all your talents and look into earning money by some other means ……..this is what I did…..I never regretted it. Be positive and brave. Well done you….and I hope you do well and get well soon. X
You are suffering badly ; you need your energy to recover ; that will take quite some time. Don’t spend your energy on guilt; you can’t afford it. Concentrate on recovering your health. Hugs and grace
I left my job as medical receptionist in 2021 and will never go back. It was a great place to work until Covid started. It poisoned the office environment. My position certainly did not compare to that of the doctors and nurses I worked with, but it was a stressful job nonetheless. It took a toll on my emotional and physical health. This industry really does have the ability to drain a person of empathy and compassion. I do not regret leaving. My heart goes out to anyone who is still going strong in this field, you have my respect. This field of work is not for the faint of heart. No amount of money is worth compromising your health, moral compass or your relationship with your family in my opinion.
I’m a gas engineer not the same level as importance but i left my last job because I felt like I was a slave finishing ridiculous times and always felt run down, I then looked up the stats on the average life of a trades man and it was between 44-50. I remember growing up and becoming a gas engineer, plumber or electrician was seen with some respect because we got payed well and kept peoples houses running now no one has respect
I do, you do very vital and important work.
@@bilalelmoore7602 if you guys are tradesmen and work hard and want to be self-employed and escape the toxic work culture which is practically in every industry, switch to HVAC. You’ll learn and get the ropes for a good 5-7 years and you can start your business off. The workload will be hard managing yourself but the satisfactory level and the respect of being a tradesmen and entrepreneur is great. Also you can schedule anytime what type of work you want to do, of course the harder the job, the more $$$.
You are the same level of importance. Thankyou for the hard work that you do!
I am an ICU nurse and over time I have realised that I NEED to leave the NHS not willingly, but for my own well being. Its has gradually become so busy that we nurses, who are at the bedside minute in minute out are worn out. Very short staffed and risky! Personally resulting to medication to help with TIREDNESS, Sleep and anxiety. And at the end of it all at the end of the month I am not able to pay my bills. For me and some of my colleagues exit is the only way. Because just like everyone else whose good will is not being misused I have family and friends who I care for and care for me. And for any of you who might find themselves in a hospital bed or visiting a relative or a friend be KIND to the nurses and other staff members. We are humans and are really and truly doing our best.
Love this message! Sad that you have been pushed to this point tho.. It needs desperate change!
Yours is typical of the NHS for the last couple of decades.
ICU nurse as well. A lot of my colleagues have decided to leave to work in other countries like the US and Australia because of better pay. I'm currently thinking of doing the same. We're also chronically overworked and understaffed, just not worth it anymore. It's so disheartening seeing public comments sometimes blaming the nurses that go on strike, making us feel selfish, when they don't understand that it's to try to make more nurses stay and entice more people to go into the field.
@Tom did you find rude patients not helping Ship, as it were either? Registered or not, healthcare nursing or doctoring, are bloody tough responsibilties and give/take types of commitment is theirselves. I feel for you. Keep strong.
I’m retired… but I would like to know how much a nurse earns today…..please
CCT and Flee. I have 6 months left until I get my CCT, then bye bye NHS, hello Middle East , more money, more respect , better standard of living ,,, a no brainer
I don't blame you one bit.. very sad tho
In the middle East, you can keep all your pay and not be taxed so your money can be sent to Ukraine.
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Good luck coco. Save yourself.
Living in the middle east? Can’t think of anything worse. If you’re a woman, doubly so.
This is so true. I thought my childhood trauma was bad enough. A whole new problem came about after being a nurse during covid and still working as one now 😢
Yep. It's like being abused your whole life ((hugs))
Get out! For the sake of your health
My experience is such too. I completely understand. I found my way out of nursing because I empowered myself.
Thank you so much for all you do for others. ❤
I have childhood trauma too. When I really began to work toward healing myself, I just couldn't see working in the duplicitous field of Healthcare like i used to.
There are 3 nurses in my family in the U.S. They decided to stay, and hospital shop those that pay the most. The salaries and sign-up bonuses they receive is staggering. Too few nurses, too many patients. Mandatory shots, also drove some nurses out of the profession.
The demise of the NHS is no accident. The UK government could easily fund it properly as they can afford wars which cost a lot more. My only guess is that they want the NHS to collapse so that the Americans can come in and replace it with privatised hospitals.
Yes, it is deliberate
Hit the nail on the head. I think we’ll hear more of this within the coming few years
Exactly that; you only need to look at who sat on the steering committee..
Amico/American Life.
The NHS is being imploded.
🎯🎯🎯
Health Insurance is steering this. Even your car insurance will need to cover injuries while driving since regular health insurance will not cover.
Honestly, as someone who came from a middle class from a 3rd world country, i've always grown up thinking : being a doctor is the most human thing one could do. my mom would tell me that health is the most precious thing one could have.
and yet, we see the disconnect between how we say we value our health, and how stingy we try to be with those who sacrificed years of their lives studying and working in the field.
it really pains me to see how we treat our doctors, between the overwork, the low pay and the legal problems as if they are ill intended.
You and me both my friend!
On wages, the UK government is bust, and have over some years racked up a massive debt so where would they find money to raise pay in the NHS? ... there's a serious problem in the UK economy, which is that its just not productive enough to generate the wealth to pay for all the public services that people expect not just in health care but in schooling, social care, infrastructure etc. Actually I think this problem started post collapse of the empire, as that fell the British economy lost what competitiveness it had which was driven by cheap labour partly from its colonies and guaranteed markets in its colonies. Now 70 years later the economy is starting to really show signs of falling apart. Unfortunately the medical profession is paid for by the society that it treats. UK is going downward economically so I predict real wages will actually fall not rise. If a person was paid for the value that one actually creates then a footballer wouldn't earn £5m a year, nor would an 'influencer' one of whom featured in the images in this video make huge ad revenue, and instead a primary school teacher would be paid like a banker.
You are putting good and bad doctors in the same scale. That's a nono.
I thought the same but my personal experience completely changed my view. I was in and around doctors and dermatologists for the first 20 years of my life as I had chronic eczema from birth. I also had food allergies and asthma. Doctors continually placed me on steroid creams with little to no emphasis on diet, mental health or systematic allergen removal. They also recommended pharmaceutical petrochemical creams which they often receive indirect incentives from. My skin became addicted to the steroids and I needed stronger and stronger creams to maintain the effect. I eventually needed antibiotics and antihistamines as well. Absence of symptoms temporarily is not health. The harmonic balance and flourishing of the mind, body and soul is. I can see they are honest, smart people who enter for good reasons. Yet they are barely taught any nutrition or holistic health. I was told by a top dermatologist in Australia when I was 10 'there is no conclusive evidence that diet and eczema are connected'. They were too busy to question but if you keep giving out products or information that cause harm or mislead people then you are not doing your job.
Doctors ruined my life. I don't think highly of doctors, I see them as medicine experts not health experts. I decided to forget everything they said and turned my life around myself. Never again am I trusting someone else who can so easily be coerced with my health. Now I've started my own skin health label Aether to help others with their health holistically :)
@Kevan Kwok I'm so sorry for your experience. I'm going through this with my 3 year old son right now. I've been repeatedly told his eczema can not be caused by allergies or food and just given harsher steroids. I've had him off steroids for 4 months now and eliminating certain things to see what happens.
As a past RN with over 30 years in the US, I saw so much burn-out with staff on all levels. My experiences in Critical Care, Emergency Room, Cardiac Step-Down and Hospice totally took a toll on me. I had to consol many of my co-workers just to get them to the end of their shift. I eventually left the hospital routine and went into Occupational Health for about 13 years. Health care workers have not gotten the recognition for all they deal with. They are humans too.
I'm an experienced ICU nurse who has just left the NHS after 7 years. I cried watching this. So true and I have cried many tears over the mixed feelings I have with the NHS, the grief of seeing it in the state it is now, the searing guilt of leaving what you feel is a shaky building where parts of it are collapsing in on themselves , whilst other parts are being pulled apart. A building you love and hate in equal measure. You care about and resent in equal measure. There is such guilt in leaving - knowing you'll contribute to the problem of low staffing - but reaching a point where you are no longer willing to carry the burden/costs of working in the NHS and its effects on you, your emotional, physical, mental health and the effects on your family. Radical change is necessary, but is it too late?
dr jude you didnt mention once the fundamental problems with big pharma (a business) leading the way and dictating and running and funding studies on WHAT each illness is and how to treat it with THERE 'medicine'!!!! it is flawed from the start and these medicines never solve the cause just pour gasoline on a fire to try put it out often. for example topical steroids and topical steroid withdrawal and antidepressant and psych meds and opoid painkiller meds.... western healthcare has been a b*tch of big pharma for decades!!!!
I resonate so much with what you said. I left the NHS after 5yrs. You so eloquently described the unfortunate state of affairs within the NHS and the physical, mental and emotional strain it can have. I wish you all the best in whatever you do next ...
The politicizing of healthcare is the number one thing that tore it apart. We lost a huge wave of great physicians and nurses in 2010. Then again in 2021.
@@carolejackson8357 I agree. Also believe Brexit was a factor, especially from a nursing point of view.
That’s nuts you can’t handle working there imagine working in the US
People do care.This not only happening to doctors, but to police, fire fighter, teachers, who lead people to these carers. I think a lot of people went into those professions because they really wanted to be a doctor, firefighter, etc. It really wasn't about money I think for most, but respect. The people need all of these professionals, remember people do care.
So true. A significant percentage do, they start off as that. I agree with your observation, as a fellow frontliner Employed healthcarer and community keyworker personnel and representing Government worker. Good point you raise here.
People care enough to clap, but many don't appreciate the pressure on medics. The moment they can't get an instant appointment, they say doctors have it too cushy.
Big facts!
@@narutozzz6166 What are?
@Persimon People are generally selfish. They'll show appreciation when they feel good, but when they're stressed or hurting there is no regard for health care professionals.
There is definitely this myth that being a doctor is very exciting and prestigious. My mom was a physician and I had all the pre-requisites completed to apply to medical school, but then chose not to and went to pharmacy school instead. Now I get to go home from the hospital after my 8 hour shits are complete, am not on call, can request time off when I need it. And I feel bad for all of our physicians. They are always on the brink of exhaustion.
It’s a tough one because when you have a medical emergency, at 12 midnight you need a human being to be there now ! One who is skilled enough to deal with the situation. One who has left their spouse and family to be on call .
Self sacrifice is painful but it is necessary for some people to do it …for all our survival . They just need to be recognised and rewarded/compensated accordingly. Same way military veterans get recognised for their service.
@@tranquilsoothingsounds3334 Agree with all you say but military veterans do not get much recognition at all in the UK or the US. They risk their life and limb for a measly salary at least below the most senior ranks. There is little career progression. A lot of vets have longstanding physical and mental damage from their service. I know of one guy in his late 20s, who left the US army and his knees are like a 70 year olds from all the wear and tear just to give one small example.
@Masha E…I thought about going into pharmacy and wish I had have taken that route. I became a nurse instead and will be leaving the profession soon. Also, your post gave me a little laugh. Read it slowly, you misspelled one key word 😂
😢 My heart goes out to all the doctors and nurses that have endured such hard times. I am more than grateful for you all, although I know this changes nothing. I see your struggle and your pain and we the people will fight by you. This saddens me so much to see you all have to endure such strenuous situations, it’s almost like prison.
There is something else, as a member of the public, I am terrified to go to the hospital now and I avoid the doctors office. I don’t trust doctors anymore.
It’s actually so sad being a first yr medical student in the UK and I already plan to leave my family and move country because the NHS is in such disarray
very sad..
Wise move. You're lucky you can do that. Do it before you put down any roots. You won't regret it.
I am a penultimate year student and I am seriously considering moving country or career. At best, I may do F1 and F2. The NHS is broken, doctors and nurses are woefully underpaid and overworked and they dont garner as much respect as they used to or deserve. Claps dont pay the bills, what they are asking for is a bargain since they are worth easily double their current salary in other countries.
@@Sixmanclan I am also a penultimate year student. Not sure how easy it is to move country post-F2 but I definitely want to change career if I can do so. Gonna apply to a ton of consultancy jobs during my foundation years so I can get out of this awful profession. I didn't work my ass off in school and university to be paid peanuts.
@@electri2024 Damn its bittersweet to know that I am not alone in feeling like this. I appreicate that there are others going through it and frankly scared that there's so many people in this boat even just at my uni.
It’s heartbreaking to hear how terribly young healthcare professionals are suffering!
Your comment sounds a little ageist and unsympathetic to all demographics. It is all healthcare staff who are suffering not just young ones.
@@rosieposie9564 You are so right; all healthcare professionals are suffering from burnout; but the data shows the younger ones get the short end of the stick, for various reasons. The early career healthcare professionals are more vulnerable to under-challenge burnout, overwhelm burnout, and financial pressures, and these hit when they are adjusting to adulthood, with marriage, young kids and such. Burnout hits everyone, just a little differently
@@drtrishmd I especially agree with the last sentence you wrote. It is hard now for all demographics. I know it has been tough for some of my older relatives in healthcare and a few have retired early or are thinking of changing professions.
Jesus went around healing people without no education. We can lay hands on u. But u have to believe
I’m not in the NHS, but I’ve been a CVICU nurse in California for the last 20 yrs. I’ve never seen conditions such as these in healthcare. Through the avian or swine flu pandemics- nothing prepared is for the ramifications of Covid. We lost countless staff to either retirement, burnout- worse yet-dying as a result of Covid. We’ve become stronger as a team after this… but the morale towards administrators and patience care has completely diminished. I thank you for this video…. It hit all of the high points.
Mental health side of the industry is just as bad ..
Absolutely! To say the least. Thank you for including the impact on the mental health industry. Yep. The situation is in many ways beyond sad, disappointing, and unthinkable.
Have you decided to stay in your profession?
Agreed. Happened to me in USA. I loved helping all souls (my patients). I hated the injustices of the medical field as an RN. May GOD help all staff as well as all patients!🙏🏽👑✝️❤️🔥
Out of all concerns, the scariest one to me is going to jail for culpable homicide… because a patient had an unavoidable surgical complication.
I've cerebral palsy I'm 63 I can't walk any distance, but I've cycled around Europe its all thanks to people like yourself Dr Jude.
Good for you John, it takes some dedication on your part to do that, i know a lot of people expect a doctor to do their job, while not putting an imput in themselves, i think it is a two fold effort to get well and stay fit, all the best to you friend xx
That’s great to hear
A friend of mine just left the UK/NHS and casually mentioned that the monthly bill for heating+water would have been 1000$ from previously 150$ and that it would have been impossible for her to pay with her NHS wage. That’s madness!
I was an RN for 20 years and hung it up in 2021. The pandemic ruined people which ruined my career. I miss it so much but it will never be the same. Calling security happened almost at every shift from patients acting out, complaining about wearing masks, telling us the virus wasn’t real, saying the refrigerator truck which held overflow from the morgue was a prop, etc…. We’d work with no breaks, not even time to finish my coffee which I brought from home. No sandwich trays from the admin who never came to the floor anymore. Nothing. My anxiety the nights before my shifts were worse than when I was a new grad. Just writing this post gives me anxiety. There were posters of patient rights all over. How about the rights of the staff from CNAs to food service to housekeeping to doctors. The patients were allowed to verbally abuse us and we’d have to take it.
It sounds like you were just in your feelings.
I could have written your post myself. Not going to be a scapegoat anymore.
@@eloiinvestigatesgrow up
40 years as an ICU/ER nurse. I've seen many changes. The mandates for vaccines, flu and then COVID, made me want to leave. Before 2010 there were no mandates imposed here in the US. I never signed up for that. Long hours, working holidays and off shifts and mandated overtime. The vaccine mandates were the last draw for me. Happy to retire and leave it all behind.
Same here. Retired last year, after 30 years as an RN. I was threaten with termination for not getting the Jab.
It's taken almost a year to get my physical and mental health back. Life is good now.
There is essentially a mandate for US citizen to be sick in order for the healthcare industry to profit from it.
True. I keep dodging and finding loopholes around it. I’m now about to start rn school as I got accepted into two schools however I’m speaking with them whether they accept exemptions because if not it’s gonna be tricky
@yenwuraaku8562 whatever you do, DO NOT compromise and take the jab. Being an RN is not worth compromising your health/life. This is coming from an RN
@churchofpos2279 I actually got terminated for not taking the jab. I didn't work for a little over a year. I am about to start working as a correctional RN, I don't have to take the flu vax or jab. I am so happy about this. It's a sigh of relief. I don't think I will ever work in the acute care setting again. You have no say over your body and what goes in it working for these organizations
I trained as a doctor in Vancouver, B.C. and practiced as a G.P. there for a number of years. This was mid 70's. All of us in the Canadian medical system were well paid and the system was well resourced by Nurses and Doctors. After meeting an English nurse in B.C. I spent one year as a junior in a medical practice near Bath, England. What struck me the most was the amount of government dictated rules and regulations. Protocols for various possible diagnoses were demeaning after the freedom to practice as a human being in the Canadian system. We were paid for what we did (seeing patients and doing things) by B.C. Medical system, and not for just showing up. If I wanted to work less hours I did and just got paid less. Fancy that! After various experiences in the NHS I decided to not continue in medicine in the UK and built a care home business from scratch which to this day keeps me in a comfortable life with time to support people, with mental health issues, without pay. The government should pay and the medical establishment should be the ones organising their services. Not to mention the lack of free education for doctors and nurses. The whole system is a mess and I wouldn't work in it for any money. The UK rates the lowest in the western world for health care investment.
Ive learned this alot faster than my family colleagues or peers but anything in our society that is tied to govt(which is alot) is ALWAYS ALWAYS for the worse. They are not our friends but enemies. And this is no hyperbole. The more you navigate thru the massive web of lies disinformation and propaganda the more you realize just how vile and wicked the govt and major institutions are.
Yeah , really piss poor salaries ,I moved here from Nigeria to the UK and was very disappointed to learn that doctors for such high skill and risk earn similar to some really low skill jobs.I m thinking of saving up and going back
No surprise there
@@tayokarate Canada is restructuring our recruitment system for foreign trained doctors. Come over here!!
@@2wheelsforever174 wow that's great , I would need to find out how that works ,it's always been quite tough to get in to Canada to practice as a doctor
Thanks for sharing this.
I'm a geriatric caregiver, and understand being overworked and having to move on, even if you love the job.
What a shame.
This video puts me on alert. We have to start taking care of ourselves. Eating right, sleeping 8 hours, working out , doing whatever we can to stay out of the hospitals. 🙏
I am an ICU nurse in the US; I don’t think ppl really understand what doctors and nurses do every day, especially in high acute facilities (all icus aren’t created equal; higher acuity generally equals more specialized professionals). I think we’re just over being underappreciated for what we all, as a whole, sacrifice to be and do.
I hate that the whole medical field has become like a trade. It’s not patients anymore it’s like they have become “customers”.
Retired RN here, I hear you. Bean counters and theorists are making rules for nursing that are disconnected from the actual process of care. Documentation is the desired product, rather than the restoration of wellbeing or health.
My father was in ICU for four months before the pandemic hit. After spending many nights with him while he was there I am thoroughly convinced ICU wards do more to damage the health of a patient, not improve it. If its not healthy for the patients, I can absolutely see how it would be a toxic place for staff.
I started med surg before going critical care...different accurity with the likelihood of more stressful days dues to patient load and several procedures....
Ah would ya stop they do evey balcony in Europe had a banner hanging of it during covid thanking health care worker ect
After 20+yrs I’m on the verge of walking, sick of the politics, the pointless targets over actual care, the lack of staff, the low moral and quite frankly the increase in absolute horrible, hostile and nasty public that you often have to contend with, society is on a downward spiral with a total lack of respect for anyone.
There are some people who do appreciate what we do but there are other who are just hostile, aggressive and abusive who make life more stressful than it should be. I'm not in the least bit surprised temporary staff don't stay very long, why would anyone want to work in an abusive environment?
I wanted to say exactly that, dealing with spoiled public is probably nasty.
I also wanted to say nurses might be getting a bit spoiled too, seems nobody can't be humble and satisfied with lil these days
Yip, all the public are celebrities and entitled in their own minds these days ... Social media, Insta, Selfies and narcissistic self indulgent Facebook posts have gotten society to this point.
Of course they should be nasty when they don’t get the best care, promised by the politicians who have no clue/ not interested in what’s going on in the hospitals.
@@nibochung9108 NO excuse for violence or abuse to staff doing the best they can, if you think that’s ok that says a lot about you and your morals and upbringing 🤷🏼♂️ I’m not talking about being vile to the government that’s caused this mess they deserve it but it’s not just about that morals and standards have dropped in society. Somewhere along the line parents gave up on parenting 🤷🏼♂️
As a doctor 1 year away from CCT I cannot wait to leave. The best way to describe it is it’s extremely frustrating to be working in a system purposely designed to fail by the government. There is enough money to better fund the NHS. Staff and patients are at breaking point, and due to a political agenda the government are deciding to purposely do nothing. If that isn’t a slap to the face then what is.
Nonsense. The NHS is failing because it is not fit for purpose and was never intended for its current purpose. The bottom line is it's inefficient and haemorrhages money, not lacking funding. People's health is also fucked through their own choices, stop and look around you. If people started having to pay £100 to see a GP or being told their gastric band surgery should be self-funded things would soon change.
@@ln5747 when was the last time you heard about new major UK hospitals opening. Walk into any A&E department and you’ll be lucky to have less than a 12 hour wait. NHS needs more capacity, more staff, more hospitals etc. of course better funding wouldn’t completely fix these issues but it would definitely make them better! I do agree that the NHS is hugely inefficient;The elephant in the room is how NHS trusts have created so many NHS managerial jobs with government approval. These NHS managers are generally on very high salaries to hold meetings to justify their jobs but which in reality contribute very little to clearing the patient waiting lists and, if anything, they disempower clinicians from making departmental decisions about patient care.
@@AliiiiH well yes but why are so many people in a&e? Much of it isn't because they've been in an accident but because their health is fucked as a result of their own choices. I had a colleague who had a heart attack in his 40s recently and sends out a message saying he's fine and would like to thank the NHS otherwise he wouldn't be here. It's a weird cult since Covid to worship the NHS. So you mean you are over the top thanking the NHS which we all pay a fortune to for helping you when you got ill, you mean they did their job 🤔. The guy is entirely out of shape and smokes, he has made himself a burden and I have no desire to fund such people's care. That is the typical case that is burdening the NHS. Whereas myself as a young athletic person who had a hip injury from sport/work related went to my GP multiple times and they didn't want to know. In the end I had to go privately for an operation and the experience was amazing, all funded by private health insurance which I pay £40 a month for - I'm certain I likely pay more a month to the NHS via taxes. The NHS did zero for me. And yes, the middle managers are a stain on every government department.
Where is the money to fund the NHS? The UK budget already spends almost half of it on the NHS and the state has a huge debt. Should we scrap schools in the UK, maybe shut down some other service?
@@AliiiiH Someone mentioned this in YT comments a few months ago about Senior managers cutting staff but then having crazy things like 4 PA's for themselves one for each hospital or office that she had to run etc. - sounds like such wasteful practices are going unchecked all across the NHS
So far I've only worked in Nursing Homes as CNA. I feel burnt out and get brain fog all the time and I've come to realize that sometimes working in the healthcare field is not that overwhelming but the people you actually work with makes the job heavy if all they wanna do is sit, relax, be on their phones and never get anything done.
Hi! Nice reading your comment, saddened about experiences and one I share. Are CNA, Chief Nursing Associates? Do correct thee, please. Many thanks.
Nhs Scientist and Scientific mStaff.
Cheers.
@@Handler6909 Certified Nursing Assistant
@@Lifewith_charlotte_ I thank you. Sounds a good enough post. Perhaps moving places of work and gauging environment change and effect? All the best, you are great regardless. The thought to go into a role as vital as any are of human, child, baby or our own Health- NURSING, always speaks if behalf of that ambition holder. Never give up. Take as many breaks, but if a natural at what you are..do keep reaching. Sometimes it's environment, and not height. So, no matter how short we feel the world sees us, it needs us.
Blessed rest of your day now.
Cheersxox.
@@Handler6909 ,
Dear Mr. Uhlalah.NICE,
In America CNAs are Certified Nursing Assistants. I believe in the UK they are called "Carers" or " Caregivers". CNAs work at Nursing Homes, Skilled Care facilities, Group Homes, Hospitals, and in private patient's Homes caring for Elders and Differently Abled people.
The vast majority of CNAs in America work in Nursing Homes and Skilled Care facilities caring for the Elderly. CNAs are trained on the job usually by the Care facility and attend classes in basic Elder Care. Then are tested and Certified by the state. CNAs supervise and assist with Activities of Daily Living care for Elders as needed. Bathing, peri-care, brushing teeth, dressing, personal care, changing adult diapers, feeding, walking, assisting with transfers from bed to wheel chair, recreational activities, charting fluids, meals and bowel habits, documenting all Activities of Daily Living of their assigned patients.
CNAs report to a charge Nurse RN who gives medications and medical treatments prescribed by the doctor. Report is usually two times per shift at beginning and end. Each CNA is assigned a number of Residents( or Elderly or disabled patients) who they are responsible for during their shift. They then must wake them get them ready for day dress them transfer to wheelchair, take to dining room, feed them, tolite them, etc. There are normally a Day Shift and Afternoon shift and a night shift.
It used to be that each CNA was in charge of 6 to 8 patients each shift. Then over the years 10 to 12 patients per CNA became the norm. . Sadly During the SARS-COVID-2 World Pandemic some CNAs were responsible for 20+ patients if staffing shortages happened due to illness, burn out, no back up CNA avalible, etc.
My 43 year old CNA neighbor came home from her shift at the local Nursing Home exhausted and quit. During the SARS-COVID-2 World Pandemic she worked 16 months without a day off working 12 hour shifts and caring for 16 to 32 patients on her own without help. She had a complete and total mental break down. She put everyone of her 32 patients to bed on her shift and then went home and could not stop crying. Compassion fatigue. She is a Caring Dedicated CNA with 27 years experience and yet she said it was just too much working with no back up or help. She felt very guilty leaving the job but the Nursing Home Administration did not Listen or hire back up CNAs. No one wanted the job. Even at double the pay.
So she went to work in private Home Care where she now only cares for one Elder at three times the pay. She got a Private Agency job and is much happier.
This story is repeating its self all over America where CNAs are under paid and over worked. They do the majority of the hands on care of Elders, the Disabled in Nursing Homes and patients in hospitals yet get very low pay and not a lot of Respect from medical personnel or families. It is a very difficult job.
I put my Self through college and Nursing school working as a CNA caring for Advanced Stage Alzehimer's Disease Dementia patients. It is very challenging work. I did End of Life Hospice care for a client during the last 3 years of the pandemic in her Home. I am a Trauma Informed Therapist with 38+ years experience. I am Praying for all of our world's family Cargivers, Carers, CNAs, Nurses , Doctors and Health Care workers. I wish you Clarity and Peace and Joy on your Healing Journey. Hold the Lantern and Light The Way. I am sending regards from Washington State, USA, Jeanne of In Loving Hands Counseling
@@jeannestandley-kinata824 I thank you. For time, yours, your employer's and at best, God and Nature time. Please can I ask, what world health facility do Group homes, that you state, cater to? Please again.
I sincerely envy your dedication to taking and investing, or..replenishing time into writing to that detail and depth.
Thanks so very very much.
At the best, I have been enlightened. Leave alone, educated some more.
Good evening.
Cheerio.
This is all so true. I’ve been working during pandemic while pregnant. Now I am home with my baby and seriously questioning if I want to work in healthcare anymore.
RN here in US 🇺🇸. The same thing is happening here too. Docs and nurses are leaving in droves. Your description is exactly how we all feel too. ❤
Lol leaving to where? The salaries are better there, the u.s is a top destination Australia Canada and Middle east
@@tayokarate, salaries might be better but the conditions are the same. Healthcare is in crisis everywhere you go whether pay is better or worse.
They mostly become contract or locum workers. Better pay and more control over their work load. I don't think they're leaving the USA. I'm a US MD.
@@maicaster8985
I’m a U.S. RN and I agree with you that most nurses are going to contract or travel nursing. However, there is a small but growing group of nurses who are leaving the bedside to meet the increasing demand for work-from-home positions and making upwards of $70-80/year. If anyone doubts this, just take a look at the open positions on Indeed and LinkedIn, in addition to other sites. A smaller group of nurses are leaving the bedside to start their own businesses in healthcare or are using their degree and skills to transition into other jobs, such as some type of medical equipment sales for instance. I predict that all of these trends will continue to grow. So to our Canadian friends who question where we will go, we do have options that don’t require us to leave the U.S.
@@maicaster8985 You're a MD? So tell me. Do Lobbyism and all taxpayer money subsidies for Corporations and private companies have to be abolished?
I was in medicine and struggled with leaving here in America. Along with the struggles with patient case load, every day total mental and physical exhaustion and to deal with medical politics, I determined the thing I most loved doing was no longer something I felt was healthy and fulfilling. Plus my family has suffered.
Honestly doctor Jude, you really hit the nail on the head. Am burnt out working as a nurse In neurosurgery. Just accepted a job else where am looking forward, to working in the private care. I feel bad leaving the nhs, 6 colleagues at one time have left and I’ll be the 7th. You gotta do what best for you
This is so good. I’ve been an ICU nurse for the past ten years. I’m over it. The burnout and politics is real. I am now a day trader and plan on retiring by the end of the year! Dope video! ❤️💫
Best video I’ve seen so far on why doctors/nurses are leaving! I’m glad you mentioned fear of safety/liability. I’m a physical therapist and have stopped working in all hospitals/inpatient facilities due to lack of professional support: outdated equipment, lack of appropriate staffing, and trying to coordinate care with a revolving cast of traveling doctors, nurses, and new medical professionals who are clearly overwhelmed. I felt unsafe, in terms of professional liability, working in those environments and I know I’m not the only one. I’ve found a little peace focusing on preventative healthcare and education: turns out I like educating people on health/their bodies/how to navigate the healthcare system with an aim of increasing personal responsibility over their health. I wish healthcare had a bigger focus on this: would take less pressure off the medical system and would increase patient self advocacy and responsibility. Of course big Pharma and insurance companies would never allow this but we can try….
Preventative measures are everything!
As a pharmacist in the US, so much of this resonates with me. We have to keep highlighting these issues.
I know, right! How is Pharmacy out in the stick of the US, if one can, please?
Thanks.
I'm a junior doctor in South Africa and I keep seeing these "why I quit medicine" videos from fellow Healthcare workers all over the globe. I tried to quit medschool in 3rd and since graduating the though of quitting ebbs and flows almost daily. I am in a state of ambivalence. There are things I absolutely love about my job and I find myself lingering after my shift ends even though I have every reason to hightail it home. There are things I also absolutely hate about my job. Working in public health in a country overrun by corruption, where nothing works and it is a minute by minute struggle to do the bare minimum for patients is completely unsustainable (I am too ashamed to even mention on here the things I've had to do because certain resources were not available). In my mind the pastures are so much greener everywhere else where systems actually work. Private brings relief only for a moment, like that feeling when you're just starting to drift of to sleep and you know that finally that sweet state of rest is in your reach just to be violently jolted awake by the fear of litigation breathing down your neck with every decision you make when managing a patient. I am relatively young. I have been in practice for almost 4 years and independent practice for a few months but I feel as though there was a time where medicine was sacred. Where the doctor-patient relationship was sacred. Now nothing is sacred. I don't know if or when I will ever leave medicine but the perspective from these kinds of videos is both comforting and unsettling. Thank you for sharing.
If no one has ever said it, then I'll say it... I am grateful for the service and care tht you and your colleagues provide for the citizens of this great ,but flawed country. Due to its corrupt politicians. 🙏
Thank you! Our people deserve so much better but we keep doing what we can and in fact what we must.
Thank you for your service!!
You are quite right; being in a state of ambivalence and swayed to one side or the other depending on the circumstances is what happens; until something tips one over. There is so much uncertainty now.
Thanks for sharing 🥺 I’m so sorry about this. The pressure seems so overwhelming for doctors
Thank you so much for verbalizing the healthcare workers reality. Sadly, many doctors and nurses in the US are feeling the same burnout even if they take a big paycheck. Money is useless if you can’t enjoy peacefully and the stress level is affecting your health. I am a management healthcare worker currently on LOA because the pressure and bs is unbearable. Appreciate this well presented video! Peace!
Imagine low pay on top of all that bs as it stands in the UK
As a healthcare provider in the US since 1975, I've seen a lot & in critical care, burnout was indeed an issue. Now I'm older & need healthcare, and as a patient, the whole system is sub-standard.
It’s all about $$$.
Hi Dr J..Mental Health Nurse here, taking my very measly pension and leaving the UK for Bulgaria in 9 weeks. I am so so angry at the politicians and fearful for the uk public, as I firmly believe our NHS is now imploding. Mental healthcare now is spread so so so thinly that I truly believe it does not meet the basic thresholds anymore. What you have said is so very true, I hope the NHS CAN be saved, but I fear that it's too late. Big respect to you and all other NHS colleagues out there continuing the fight.
The NHS can be saved; the public have to demand it be saved. The workers alone cannot protect it.
Thank you so much for highlighting this. I have been a mental health nurse for over seven years and it has been so difficult. So many of my colleagues have died of Covid, lack of PPEs. Some people are now doing agency. No one talks about how it was difficult for us mental health nurses. Matt Hancock said something horrible. We are real nurses and there is so much stigma about our field. They should come and see how we work and I am sure they would not last even half a day with unwell psychotic patients. I do enjoy my job but at times, it can be so draining when you don't get support from senior management. I wish you all the best in Bulgaria. I know some people that went to Ireland and Australia for better life and work balance.
@Beautycomesfromwithin you just need to take very good care of yourself. Support each other as much as possible on shift. Talk. Cry if needed. Find healthy outlets as much as you can. Our roles have always been a cinderella, but we are, like our NHS colleagues in the vast array of roles, as vital as the next...but like out 'cousins' in general, A&E, medical, surgical etc, we are being battered. I cannot do it anymore, it's made me ill and strained my relationships. My life in Bulgaria will be learning new skills and taking care of animals. I wish you well x
@@adeleleah3918 thank you so much for your encouragement! I wish you all the best in your new field. I know the best people leave. You have to do what is best for you! xx
My daughter wanted to be a dr from the time she was a child. Thank goodness she listened to me. Its a tremendous life sacrifice
Well I didn't quit but I allowed myself to be fired from my full time RN position because I was not comfortable being forced to take the shot over a year ago. If they were okay letting me go amidst short staffing issues, I was happy to leave the stress. For a good year I worked a minimum wage job to keep my bills a float. Today I work in wonderful conditions as an RN in a travel position I love making nearly 4 times what I used in my full time position. Leaving and following my heart was not easy but it was the best decision I've ever made
Amen!
Unvaccinated RN
@@TorriaYAH222 hey fellow RN 🥰
@@ChaleykiOnline Hey sweetie! I went through similar circumstances but the Most High had something better! I’m much happier now and at peace. Abundant blessings to you in Yeshua’s mighty name! Shalom!
@@TorriaYAH222 congratulations! God bless🙏🏽
So glad I was able to predict this back in 1997 following my 2nd year at medical school and dropped out before I had to suffer this crap working in the NHS. I’m much happier now in my vocation than I would have ever been as a doctor in the U.K.
Hey Sarangi, out of curiosity, what is your vocation now?
@@MiscellaneousMeMe , same
what are you doing now?
nurse in India? because of the nickname? heh...
Thank you for your insight. I think the most important thing to remember is that doctors are human. I have had a lot of hospital appointments over the past ten years and I also occasionally work at a hospital doing building work. I have watched its decline and I have felt cheated myself by people like Johnson. I seriously thought that when he pulled through from covid, he would invest all the money the NHS needed to bring it to how it should be. The NHS should be something we are all proud of and people are failing to get jobs there because the jobs are so highly sort after. Sunak has chosen Non Doms, BP and Shell shareholders above our NHS. He has chosen those people that take from this country over those that have given their all. That is a terrible self centered decision and one I believe is actually criminal.
Yes. Do read Caroline Elton's book, Also Human. But they are treated like robots on a conveyor belt churning out treated patients.
Absolutely agree. Not just doctors and nurses; but PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS are also getting a bad wrap. Thanks for speaking about this.
I live here in California. l loved your video. It is the same here. Doctors and nurses are leaving the medical profession. Long hours; decrease pay (stated for current inflation); no respect; fearing mistakes etc. The medical facilities that are hurting the most are those in the inner/poorer communities. I'm a teacher and all levels of school staff are leaving for the same reasons. Stay positive 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
They do a 37.5-40hr week
Here in America it’s just as terrible. Every Nurse I work with is frantically searching for a way out . Thankfully before nursing I had a skilled trades background. So, I am leaving ASAP !!
It is not worth it !!!!!
Frantically searching for a way out is right.
Being a patient with a long term chronic disease i have spent all my childhood and my adulthood going in and out of hospital and seen the massive decline in the care, the equipment, the facilities and in overall the collapsing of NHS. From receiving amazing care to now receiving hardly any care, it has impacted me and my health massively and due to negligence & loss of care, I deteriorated rapidly and now i am seriously worried as the loss of care is going to have massive impacts on me with dire consequences. The nurses, the doctors and all those involved in managing the hospital deserve so much more of respect, money and time as they make massive sacrifices so we patients don’t suffer. I don’t understand the government’s agenda but i hope it wake up as we are going to end up in a massive massive crisis when there is no staff left to look after the sick. Perhaps the idea is collapse the NHS to the no return point, that way private companies will jump in and government will just see the opportunity to totally get rid of NHS so that the money can be spent elsewhere…
You are right in your opinion.
Thank you for this video. Thank you for your work.
Peace and Blessings🙏🏽
You are speaking for the American health care providers/ system too. As a nurse for almost 20 years, I am really tired 😫. I take it one day at a time now, as the strength and the grace of Elohim help me. It's even more difficult as a nurse administrator because you are working round the clock, addressing patients and staff issues 🙄. Today, the headaches have increased and I stayed home. My phone is completely shut off. I really don't care right now. It's crazy and I need some sanity. We also have a life besides the job.
Thank you for this calm, rational, reasonable assessment of the current situation. I'm writing this in Australia where I'm visiting my daughter, a senior nurse and her husband, a consultant. I won't wish them back to the UK however much I miss them; they are doing valuable work here and have an infinitely better quality of life. This crisis was totally predictable. The health service needs spokesmen like you. I hope it isn't too late to save it.
Most nurses I meet in Australia are Irish ☘️
and they’re professional and lovely people who seem well suited to the role.
Thank you so so much for posting this. Someone has to speak up for us healthcare professionals, and you did very well. I have been a qualified nurse for 11 years. I started off in Ortho theatres as a scrub nurse and then spent 10 years in post op recovery. I worked through the whole pandemic and can testify to how ridiculously dangerous it became regarding low staffing, poor morale caused by the government not to mention the tole it had taken on the mental health of MDT members. After the worst of it was over I feel like too much damage was done. Especially where I worked. I had to leave! I adored my job in Recovery but I could not handle the stress of being a senior nurse, having to train new nurses and students whilst providing high dependancy specialist care to patients. I am not even joking when I say our nursing numbers were so low it was terrifying. instead of 12 on duty, we would have 4 to 5 nurses to care for a revolving door of very sick post op patients. Then comes the pressure of getting those patients to appropriate wards, but the wards experiencing bed blocking and staff shortages.
Pay wise nurses get paid extremely badly. I had to use a food bank a couple of times and take out loans just to get by! Why the hell should any of us accept that as the status quo! It is heart breaking and demoralising. Ultimately I left my post. I was able to get a specialist nursing role, band 6. I am still very junior within that role with a lot to learn. I am happier though! Yes the new job is incredibly challenging but learning always is. I just knew I needed a change. I have decided to give nursing one more year. if the government don't improve our NHS, which is amazing thanks to the goodwill of the workers; then I am going to pursue another profession. I worry a lot about patient care, nurses can't give the care they desperately want to give due to all of the obstacles standing in our way.I truly believe the government have blood on their hands and I pray for NHS reform. I hope in my heart we can get our incredible NHS back on track.
I’m a nursing student and cna at a hospital. The amount of stress and abuse that nurses and other healthcare staff are going through is driving people away from pursuing healthcare. A lot of my classmates have quit, they don’t want to be nurses anymore, some don’t even want to work in healthcare. This problem is a domino effect, it’s affecting healthcare workers and people who had been interested in the field
I'm here with you Nurseing student working as a CNA throughout NYC nursing homes and the stress and racism bullying I endure has caused depression and anxiety. I quit nursing school and looking forward into going into business for myself . As a CNA the abuse is horrbile can't work as a Nurse take care
They can't handle the heat so they got out of the kitchen
In the 50's the hospital staff were on 8 hour shifts. This was the best care for patients and staff. I would pick up my grandma after her 8 hour shift in housekeeping. They had to force her to retire at 74 years old after 35 years. She spent many years working on holidays.
She died a few years later from cancer. She gave her all.
In Alabama where I reside, new staff registered nurses starting pay is around $27. Many factories and local businesses are paying more than that with no experience nor education required. To be paid that amount with the threat of possible litigation, abuse, mental stress etc makes it not worth it to be a healthcare professional now matter how much of a passion you have for it
You need to move. They pay no less than 36 for new RNs in Georgia
@@Des_Armoni not true!! I know some nurses in Georgia who are only getting paid $24.50 an hour working dayshift.
😳 what in the? I know salaries are lower in Alabama, but that is criminal. We pay more than that here in Houston. 😬
@@FeminineVibez where im from in the middle of nowhere they start at 36. The person i know started at 27 and that was in 2012! That person you’re talking about must be an LPN
@@Des_Armoni NOPE. They are RNs
To be honest this drove me to clinical research. I practiced as a physician for years but the high pressure environment, lack of support, poor remuneration despite lots of sacrifices, disconnection from social activities and the list goes on made me make the switch!
So how rewarding is research
@@tayokarate it’s rewarding because there’s a time in one’s life that one needs more than the remuneration a job provides. Clinical research affords me the kind of work life balance I never thought was possible as a clinician, the opportunities for growth are unending plus I get to touch lives on a population basis compared to the one patient at a time basis. I am satisfied.
I run a mental health live in facility & we are experiencing the same thing. We never closed or even slowed down. Thank you for your service
Really nice to see a consultant that speaks and somewhat looks like me. Congratulations ive watched your channel since i was in med school.Youre
incredible
I worked in the NHS for 30 years.We always worked extremely hard but the last few years were terrible.I left in 2009 and I can honestly say I still have nightmares and I think it has had a long term affect on me.I would say to anyone reading this, get out while you can.The lack of respect to frontline staff, the ever increasing workload, the lack of meal breaks, the constant and never ending phone calls to work on your days off borders on abuse of staff.Add to that the unsocial hours and 13.5 shifts working flat out, sometimes 14 hours or more.Best decision I ever made.Put yourself and your family first, don’t give up your health and the health and well being of your family for an organisation that treats you like dirt.
Really interesting video thanks for sharing. My dad worked for the NHS for 40 years and faced many things you mentioned in this video.
I am very sorry to learn about this. Doctors and Nurses, Paramedics, Firemen and Firewomen, Police officers, our Military, Disaster Workerss, and even Teachers are the brave people we depend on to hold up the entire population of us. We must make proper demands for their proper respect!
You are bang on! You nailed it! You spoke my heart and mind.
Former Canadian Nurse. Ended up with burnout twice, PTSD and multiple autoimmune disorders. It sounds like the Brits have had the same issues as us. Thank you for this video. You spoke up on a lot of things that need more attention. I'm in HIT now, and the work-life balance is so much better. I am also less likely to be abused on the job.
What is HIT?
@@lecahier Health Information Technology.
Here in the US too, I can’t wait to leave it..
@utoimune from quackcines
@@ManDogBearPig you don't know OP's medical history and you think it's the vaccine?
Thank you for speaking out about this! More people need to know the real issues
Thank you for speaking out. And educating me on what's happening. No, there's no easy answer. Will take EVERY INDIVIDUAL working selflessly to come up with anything workable. Thank you for sticking it out so far.
I’m an American RN, BSN. I haven’t completely left yet, but I’m going to. I left the hospital and went to home health so I could work with just one patient and less hours because after 20 years I was WORN SLAM OUT. Mandatory overtime, being treated like crap by management, patient and their family members, cutting benefits left and right, pay not enough for what you go through. You as the nurse get sick and should not come to work but when you call out you are treated terrible. So I said goodbye. Once the patient I have now no longer needs me I am leaving completely. Oh and guess what, I don’t even have health insurance myself because what’s offered through my agency is quite literally useless and EXTREMELY expensive. If I buy privately it is also EXTREMELY expensive so since I don’t have any health problems I live a healthy life and wing it. When I do leave I plan to go to a regular normal daytime job of some sort that actually provides benefits. Maybe Target lol. They pay almost as much as home health nurse pay sadly. At this point a retail customer yelling at me because their item rings up the wrong price would be a walk in the park. At least I wouldn’t go to jail for that mistake.
Thank you! This is helpful.
Truly.
Doctors, nurses, and any other health professionals need to be paid more and deserve our respect. It's ridiculous how much these athletes and "influencers" make. Health professionals are ESSENTIAL to our society, whereas, those entertainers are NOT. To those in the healthcare profession, I offer my thanks. 🙏
Agreed! Health professionals are admirable and are the true role models that we all need.
I agree so much with this. So much.
Much support from a fellow Brit. Your experience and dedication is infectious. Keep it up but don’t ruin yourself. I wanted to be a surgeon but my health is too poor to enroll in medical degrees.
Thank You Dr. Jude, I appreciate you speaking up. I'm a nurse who left about 6 months ago and I have several other friend nurses who left as well. Thank you for sharing your truth.
You guys are wonderful. It seems like a lot of politicians world-wide and and big pharma owners made terrible decisions concerning the COVID. These decisions screwed true care givers.
I’m a health visitor in the NHS I love my job working with families and children but I’m on the brink of a breakdown. The workload has tripled and expectation of families demands when they are few resources and lack of staff. I’m reassessing my career choice but difficult when I’m in my late 40s
How did you find the healthcare industry when you first joined?
Get out.... if everyone quits the medical field, not just the critical thinkers who already left, they will have to do something. The medical community is not providing adequate or proper care anyway...
I feel the same after 20+ years but in my mid forties I don’t know anything else. I personally feel trapped in a job I’ve lost faith in.
@@synns6898 sounds as if and though you cannot be trapped. You are feeling trapped, re introduce faith and make amends, or changes.
Tough reality of growing am afraid.
G!
I know the feeling! Ive spent nearly 25 yrs working on acute wards and the workload has gotten so much worse. Maybe we could cope if we felt valued at all but you just feel like nobody gives a bleep about patient care or staff health. The government clearly doesnt value us at all.
Im just trying to hold on another few years til I can take early retirement and Im sure alot of experienced nurses are in the same boat!
I moved to Norway 4 years ago to work as a GP. It's much better here.
Thank you for sharing this important information. What I appreciate is that you also provide some positive solutions and motivation. Thank you!
Thank you 🙏🏾 so much for this video Doctor ❤. Thank you for your analysis and not sugar coating because compassion fatigue, time constraints with each patient, being over worked, people at the top looking the other way is real. I am a former Army medic with clinical time and Battalion Aide Station experience. With COVID-19, I definitely was on call 24/7 it comes with the profession. I did everything I could as a medical NCO to shield our PA from BS as much as possible. I know what you’re saying is the truth. Work-Life balance is important for our health. Prayers 🙏🏾 to all our essential workers especially healthcare.
Our entire society is ripping apart at the seams, the medical industry is no different.
So true
Everything has been corrupted beyond repair.
I'm a youngish nurse in my 30's with a decade of experience.
I decided to work in Australia straight after my training which is where I realized - My colleagues are being shafted staying with the NHS... Not only with pay, but working conditions, working hours, balance of life/work.
When I returned to the UK, I tried to reintegrate back into the NHS but I would of had to sacrifice all the above. So I took a leap.... And went 'self enployed'.
Now I have been working privately or as an agency nurse for the past decade and I have no regrets and encourage others to do the same if they're feeling burnout or before they leave the profession.
I still contribute just as much as any other nurse, I'm not burnout, I come onto shift fresher and probably have a better work rate than most others. None of this I could do if I were working permanently with the NHS.
Unfortunately, it mostly stems from money....salaries. Pay the nurses, doctors etc what they should be earning. More will stay. As more will stay, staffing will be better. With better staffing, you have better patient outcomes, better training for new starters, better moral and best of all... More funding for the NHS as agencies will no longer be required or relied upon!
I could not say any better than this
I'm not from the medical field but I agree 100% with this young doctor. Healthcare professionals are the real workers in this world. Politicians are just worried about doing politics. Kudos to this doctor and bless these heroes for all the hard and altruist work they do. You're the real mothers of our society.
Was pre-med prior to the pandemic. Decided to go into mental health instead. Absolutely the best decision ever.
I worked in the NHS fifty years ago and it was the same then. We were overworked, understaffed, underpaid and undervalued. I think the NHS has survived over the years by exploiting the dedication and goodwill of its staff. But maybe that well is finally running dry.
One major change since my day is the burden of top-heavy management in hospitals. That's possibly the straw that's breaking the camel's back.
Dear Dr Jude,
The Conservative party have been planning to privatise the NHS since 1996. What boggles my mind is why so many nurses have failed to see this demise. I left in 2003 and have NEVER been happier. Good day...
I don’t blame you at all!
Miranda Oken Margaret Thatcher had a white paper written in the 80's 'How to Sell off the NHS without anyone noticing'. The Conservatives have never wanted the NHS and are doing everything in their power to kill it off.
Good on ya!
You're such a wonderful human being thank you for staying and your strength thank you for sharing this I am praying for us
God bless you Dr Jude , you will bring positive change and much needed healing to health care itself. May God bless your endeavors 🕊