I remember picking this up for around $200 a few years back. It was enough to run my window unit, but just barely with that initial surge. I'm certain I had overloaded it many times trying to figure out what it would and wouldn't run. One I remember clearly being a 700w microwave, which taught me that the 700w meant cooking power, but it actually drew 1000w. So I think your issue might be in part that it sat, and maybe a spider crawled in there, or there is some corrosion. There is a chance if you take it apart, it could just need cleaned, or the brushes might be repairable. I'd definitely take it apart before ordering though. I still have mine, which I overheated when I tried 'covering' it in the rain. Woops. It doesn't take up much space, and I plan on trying to fix it one day when I get some time.
I would fix it and then not deliberately overload it for a youtube video. You can likely get compatible brushes cheaper. But before ordering new brushes, you should check and make sure the brushes are bad. Given that they are brand new, you might be able to just sand them a bit.
@@kev-reviews Looking at the manual and parts diagram for the GEN1000i it seems that your phone contact with tech support was referencing a different model because the GEN1000i is brushless and it does have automatic overload shutdown protection. The core alternator section is like a hub motor for a scooter and has possibly a loose hub magnet that is dragging. My guess would be the magnet adhesive released from heating and is dragging on the stator. You may be able to superglue or epoxy back in place the loose magnet if that is the issue. The parts diagram shows the hub and magnets function as the flywheel for this small engine. Another possible issue is a loose trigger coil for the spark ignition could be dragging against the hub rotor. Either of these should be an easy repair and worth investigating to see what's up.
@@artpatronforever Yeah, the brushes didn't sound right to me, I didn't check the parts diagram but I was pretty sure these modern inverter generators are pretty much all brushless. I would bet there's something else going on here, would be interesting to do a teardown and find out if it's a simple issue or not.
Being an Inverter Generator, most likely the overload killed the inverter module. The resistance you are feeling pulling on the rope is the module shorted internally. Time for a new generator as most of the time a new module is equal to or more than a new generator. Note: Inverter modules do NOT have brushes in the generator section. If you tear down the generator you will find a 3 phase ac generator that the module converts to DC then to AC. This is why the engine can run at different speeds and keep the 60 Hz Frequency.
Thanks. It’s more just to have a light or power a few small devices of power goes out. I don’t view it as a true power backup since it has limited output
Buy 1600-1800 Running watts generator and don't abuse it. I would love to have one of these but I have too much stuff and other generators already. The beauty of this is the 40cc engine being so fuel efficient you get long run time for little fuel but the 80cc engine generators have a really good power output for the fuel used. I bought my father in law one of the newer 145cc 3800 running watt generators to replace their old 210cc 3000 watt generator because I didn't want them to be overloading it. They managed to soft seize their old generator after using it for 10 days straight and I asked if they had checked the oil? They said it had oil in it. I then told the it has to be FULL of oil to properly lubricate, not just have oil in it. Amazing it made it 10 days with no oil added. I have remodeled my house with everything inverter or low draw and I never had a water heater (I live in the tropics and heat bath water with a massive rice cooker or kettle as needed, as electricity here costs about as much as in California. I use a 220v 2000 running watts 80cc inverter generator to run most things in the house and I have a 220v 4000W 270cc inverter generator that I can crank up if I have to run the washer and dryer, heat water or cook with the inversion cooktop and being 3 times the engine displacement of the 80cc it's no surprise it uses 3 times the fuel, it's a beast. You get something back in electricity savings by going to more efficient appliances so give it some thought when the old refrigerator or HVAC goes out. The less power the stuff you need draws, the more of it you can use when you are on generator power without needing a 55 gallon drum of fuel.
It does not have brushes. It has a permanent rotating magnets. The stator coils are bad. Unplug the stator coil going to the inverter. If it is still hard to pull. Then remove the stator coil. If one of the coils are dark in colour then there is your short circuit.
I guess the stator is rubbing on the rotor. Not sure if the rotor is plastic or aluminum. I've seen cases in similar setups where the rotating magnet(s) detatch (adhesive failure) and stick themselves to the stator. Either this or the inverter has failed but I highly doubt that. I could probably repair this gen for him, probably just some epoxy to remount the magnets.
GEN1000i brushes? I think not, the rotor is permanent magnet? I advise against storing any generator with fuel in the tank, it's not difficult to drain the tank, restart and consume any remaining fuel.
You Might as Well see what's wrong with it BEFORE You order brushes. It Might actually of overheated & seized up a Bit. it might be junk - it might be brushes. Do a Tear down video on it / Lets see what happened video ? I actually was pretty impressed that it was putting out steady voltage & current at 700 watts. If You want to run a Refrigerator you need something bigger. 3,000 watt min. to compensate for when compressor starts. if u want to run your Microwave oven, a Light or 2 , Tv , router , modem. Choose a 3,000 watt generator min. Microwave draws about 1500 watts alone when running. Coffee maker 1,000 watts. 3,000 watt generators can be had for $300.00 5,000 watt generators $500.00 Home depot specials. 3,000 watt is a nice size generator. You can actually survive decent with a 3,000 watt generator. if it was me & a Power outage was Z going to be more than a Few Days i'd be looking 👀 into a Nat. gas Powered generator / a Tri-Fuel Generator. That way You don't have to worry about having 50 -100 Gallons of Gasoline around to Feed the generator. Nat. Gas is there even in a power outage. Being a Tri - Fuel generator you can use gasoline in a Pinch. Natural gas & propane never goes bad & no b worries on storage. Good video. Info for you --- 1) Amps x volts = Watts 2) Never Run A Generator above 80% of Load For an Extended period of time. You are Just looking for trouble. 3) Size a Generator for 50-75% of Required Maximum Load. 4) You Can Never Have too Much Generator. A Little Bigger than u need is always better. Electrical Runs Cooler , Better fuel economy , Steady voltage , Longer Engine Life. Good video. Electrical Hvac technician for over 40 years. since 1981.
Don't put yourself down sir. We are greatful for what you. There's a lot of people that are unable to do what you do or are not willing to try.😊
I remember picking this up for around $200 a few years back. It was enough to run my window unit, but just barely with that initial surge. I'm certain I had overloaded it many times trying to figure out what it would and wouldn't run. One I remember clearly being a 700w microwave, which taught me that the 700w meant cooking power, but it actually drew 1000w.
So I think your issue might be in part that it sat, and maybe a spider crawled in there, or there is some corrosion. There is a chance if you take it apart, it could just need cleaned, or the brushes might be repairable. I'd definitely take it apart before ordering though.
I still have mine, which I overheated when I tried 'covering' it in the rain. Woops. It doesn't take up much space, and I plan on trying to fix it one day when I get some time.
9:36 That's one hundred twenty two volts.
There should be text on the screen correcting what was said
I would fix it and then not deliberately overload it for a youtube video. You can likely get compatible brushes cheaper.
But before ordering new brushes, you should check and make sure the brushes are bad. Given that they are brand new, you might be able to just sand them a bit.
I’m surprised the thing has zero overload protection
@@kev-reviews Did you ever get the 4 inches of snow?
We got about 5.5”
@@kev-reviews Looking at the manual and parts diagram for the GEN1000i it seems that your phone contact with tech support was referencing a different model because
the GEN1000i is brushless and it does have automatic overload shutdown protection.
The core alternator section is like a hub motor for a scooter and has possibly a loose
hub magnet that is dragging. My guess would be the magnet adhesive released from
heating and is dragging on the stator. You may be able to superglue or epoxy back
in place the loose magnet if that is the issue. The parts diagram shows the hub and
magnets function as the flywheel for this small engine. Another possible issue is
a loose trigger coil for the spark ignition could be dragging against the hub rotor.
Either of these should be an easy repair and worth investigating to see what's up.
@@artpatronforever Yeah, the brushes didn't sound right to me, I didn't check the parts diagram but I was pretty sure these modern inverter generators are pretty much all brushless. I would bet there's something else going on here, would be interesting to do a teardown and find out if it's a simple issue or not.
Being an Inverter Generator, most likely the overload killed the inverter module. The resistance you are feeling pulling on the rope is the module shorted internally. Time for a new generator as most of the time a new module is equal to or more than a new generator.
Note: Inverter modules do NOT have brushes in the generator section. If you tear down the generator you will find a 3 phase ac generator that the module converts to DC then to AC. This is why the engine can run at different speeds and keep the 60 Hz Frequency.
I’d probably replace it with something a little bigger. Especially if you’re going to use it for backup power on your house.
Thanks. It’s more just to have a light or power a few small devices of power goes out. I don’t view it as a true power backup since it has limited output
Buy 1600-1800 Running watts generator and don't abuse it. I would love to have one of these but I have too much stuff and other generators already. The beauty of this is the 40cc engine being so fuel efficient you get long run time for little fuel but the 80cc engine generators have a really good power output for the fuel used. I bought my father in law one of the newer 145cc 3800 running watt generators to replace their old 210cc 3000 watt generator because I didn't want them to be overloading it. They managed to soft seize their old generator after using it for 10 days straight and I asked if they had checked the oil? They said it had oil in it. I then told the it has to be FULL of oil to properly lubricate, not just have oil in it. Amazing it made it 10 days with no oil added. I have remodeled my house with everything inverter or low draw and I never had a water heater (I live in the tropics and heat bath water with a massive rice cooker or kettle as needed, as electricity here costs about as much as in California. I use a 220v 2000 running watts 80cc inverter generator to run most things in the house and I have a 220v 4000W 270cc inverter generator that I can crank up if I have to run the washer and dryer, heat water or cook with the inversion cooktop and being 3 times the engine displacement of the 80cc it's no surprise it uses 3 times the fuel, it's a beast. You get something back in electricity savings by going to more efficient appliances so give it some thought when the old refrigerator or HVAC goes out. The less power the stuff you need draws, the more of it you can use when you are on generator power without needing a 55 gallon drum of fuel.
It does not have brushes. It has a permanent rotating magnets. The stator coils are bad. Unplug the stator coil going to the inverter. If it is still hard to pull. Then remove the stator coil. If one of the coils are dark in colour then there is your short circuit.
it could also be that the valves just need to be adjusted, all small engines require valve adjustments every 300 hours or so.
Thanks, but it’s not the valves. It happened during an overload and I can feel resistance from the electrical generation part of the generator
@@kev-reviews Possibly a rotor magnet may have detached and
is dragging the stator or the ignition trigger coil may be dragging.against
the rotor.
Those generators don't have brushes
No brushes and they do have overload protection
I guess the stator is rubbing on the rotor. Not sure if the rotor is plastic or aluminum. I've seen cases in similar setups where the rotating magnet(s) detatch (adhesive failure) and stick themselves to the stator.
Either this or the inverter has failed but I highly doubt that.
I could probably repair this gen for him, probably just some epoxy to remount the magnets.
Yes the magnet get loose but I have see some people reglue it back
GEN1000i brushes? I think not, the rotor is permanent magnet?
I advise against storing any generator with fuel in the tank, it's not difficult to drain the tank, restart and consume any remaining fuel.
You Might as Well see what's wrong with it BEFORE You order brushes.
It Might actually of overheated & seized up a Bit. it might be junk - it might be brushes.
Do a Tear down video on it / Lets see what happened video ?
I actually was pretty impressed that it was putting out steady voltage & current at 700 watts.
If You want to run a Refrigerator you need something bigger. 3,000 watt min.
to compensate for when compressor starts.
if u want to run your Microwave oven, a Light or 2 , Tv , router , modem. Choose a 3,000 watt generator min.
Microwave draws about 1500 watts alone when running.
Coffee maker 1,000 watts.
3,000 watt generators can be had for $300.00
5,000 watt generators $500.00
Home depot specials.
3,000 watt is a nice size generator. You can actually survive decent with a 3,000 watt generator.
if it was me & a Power outage was Z going to be more than a Few Days i'd be looking 👀 into a Nat. gas Powered generator / a Tri-Fuel Generator.
That way You don't have to worry about having 50 -100 Gallons of Gasoline around to Feed the generator.
Nat. Gas is there even in a power outage. Being a Tri - Fuel generator you can use gasoline in a Pinch. Natural gas & propane never goes bad & no b worries on storage.
Good video.
Info for you ---
1) Amps x volts = Watts
2) Never Run A Generator above 80% of Load For an Extended period of time. You are Just looking for trouble.
3) Size a Generator for 50-75% of Required Maximum Load.
4) You Can Never Have too Much Generator. A Little Bigger than u need is always better. Electrical Runs Cooler , Better fuel economy , Steady voltage , Longer Engine Life.
Good video.
Electrical Hvac technician for over 40 years. since 1981.