Batman :that's why you are a sociopathic coward who can't even control himself to not kill, it's like a sexual pleasure to you frank. I don't this type of things at all, but your didn't satisfy you need in the past or were you the one who didn't for her?
In all honesty, I am 100% with Jason for this one. Considering he died and then was brought back, only to see that his killer had been left alive to kill even more, it's already a miracle he's even come to terms with Batman. There were so many things Barbara could have done here. Like making Joker shut the hell up, or actually talk Jason down by comforting him. But no, she litteraly just stood here and watched as an abuser forced his victim to relieve all of the thrauma he had put him through; she knew Jason couldn't handle the situation, yet she did nothing.
You’re not wrong. But instead of Batman or Jason doing the deed it should have been the state that should have been the one to put the Joker down. First time he committed his crimes ok lock him up in Arkham and try to rehabilitate him, he then escapes and does commits even worse crime, ok let’s lock him up in a more secure manner and try again, third time he breaks out and commits even worse crimes, that’s it it’s clear he’s beyond redemption time for the state to hand down the death penalty. But instead they keep locking him up only for him to escape and k ill again and again and again. Hell I’m willing to bet Gotham’s cemeteries are filled with his victims from every single time he’s escaped. And yet the State doesn’t do anything other than lock him up. I agree that Batman shouldn’t be the one to k ill the Joker it should have been the State a long time ago. The fact that the State doesn’t hand out the death penalty for the Jokers crimes is quite frankly and insult to the justice that Batman fights for. It’s not like handing it out to a simple mugger or bank robber, this is a megalomaniac that commits mass m urder with glee and has no remorse whatsoever for his crimes. The Joker is beyond redemption and should’ve been taken care of by the state years ago.
Honestly that argument of "if you kill a murderer there is still one" it's starting to become real bs, because one murderer could potentially kill a 1k people and the murderer's murderer would only kill one and save way more. Admittedly in Joker's case that would mean his definitive victory but it's just dumb that he gets to live another day while being one of the most dangerous psychopaths around that continues proving again and again that he should definitely be terminated.
I'm just getting tired of the notion that killing the Joker is somehow some kind of 'victory' for him. That the Joker's life is somehow more precious and valuable to every hero in the world, than the lives of the innocent people he kills. Seriously, they constantly depict every hero in the DC universe bending over backwards, knocking themselves stupid, trying to SAVE the Joker's life. And to what end? To prove they're 'better than that'? Insanity plea or not, in real life, a killer like the Joker would have gotten the death penalty a thousand times over. I understand the use of 'plot armor' in telling a story, but in the Joker's case, it's gotten hackneyed and stale, how the writers protect him and make his excuses.
@@DeathReviews The Joker wants to prove to all those with the most bs moral code ever invented "I don't kill, I'm not like you" that yes you are also killers... maybe not genocidal but you still killed and that's how the justification begins look at Superman bruh every time no one thinks of locking him up like a demon in another dimension to literally prove that the hero is right and finally the joker has lost for good...
@@DeathReviews "even bruce figured it out eventually, you know how many people joker has killed since batman bashed his head in? Zero , i like that kind of math" Superboy
"Screw you Jason" says the person who was only waiting for someone else to do it so she can keep parading herself as morally superior to those who had the guts to go for the kill. There's nothing wrong with killing individuals who, in every sense of the word, actually take pleasure in killing innocent people with zero chances of redemption. The Joker gets to kill more because they're too selfish to see past their self-righteousness rather than the greater good.
I would have to side with Jason on this one. Joker basically forced Jason to relive that trauma, and Barbara just stood there and did nothing to stop it, with Jason holding a gun to Joker. And while that speech from Joker was taking place, Barbara didn't gag him, no punches, nothing. Just stood there and watched. And if anything, I'm glad that after Jason pulled the trigger, and the speech between him and Barbara took place, he asked 'When was the last time you missed?' Not so much in her hitting Jason's hand, but how she missed his gun. That one question proved to Jason how right he was about wanting the same as him, in terms of killing Joker. In the instance of killing Joker makes you question this. How many more people would Joker have killed, until he was killed? Since he can basically walk out the front door of the Asylum any time he wanted.
I never understood the idea of multiple Jokers. That psychopath doesn't seem the sort to tolerate others out there like him. He would want to be Batman's one and only.
Yes , the Joker was always extremely pathetic in how he was desperate to feel unique and special and needing to be Batman's main problem in some cosmic play where he used innocent people as props (Which is why turning him normal is the best way to defeat him if not actually torture him) , he would not allow anyone poaching on his cringe persona .
I think the only way to really "defeat" Joker is to not care. Someone completely unrelated to him and unaffected by him taking him down. Doesn't listen to his jokes, doesn't listen to his name, doesn't even give him a second glance after breaking his bones and leaving him on the ground. How could Joker stand being taken down by a nobody and treated like a nobody? What he needs more than anything, is to mean something, to be the darkness etched into people's souls. Without that, he's nothing.
So, basically. Bring another psychopath in the equation, like James Gordon Jr. Except more ethical and civilized. Joker can't hurt someone who is incapable of being emotionally damaged. Or bring the Punisher to solve it. That works too
I think this was on the batman animated series. A random politician has the power to kill him and the joker was terrified because he's gonna be killed by someone he doesnt know. Even a crackhead with a gun should do the trick
That's what I've always thought if I was jason I would catch the joker tie him up and just have a random thug shoot him hell even better cover the joker's face and mouth and make it so the guy doesn't even know who he's killing I think that honestly would really tick the joker off
It's like the end of Se7en. What would you have done? Oh, I can tell you what I would have done. Not gonna spoil it for the 2 people who haven't seen it tho
@@Whats.Next.Videos He also stripped her naked after he shot her, took photos of her while she was lying on the floor, bleeding out, and then showed the pictures to her father.
"I'll be your Robin." Wow, did not expect him to say that bit there. Being Robin in the beginning with Batman, then being Red Hood at the end with Joker dead(?).
I read A Death In the Family. He did NOT say that. He said "I wish I'd never met Bruce Wayne". And you can't blame him, at that point. Anyone will break, under torture.
It could have happened. comics are panels. and there are MANY scenes and panels left out. Cuz we only have only so many pages to print. So yeah. I can see that happening. Makes sense, the beating wasn't in just 1 book of panels. It probably happened alot and brutally. Ugh. Poor kid. honestly Punisher wouldn't have wasted more than a breath and a bullet.
I could watch "xxxx beats the Joker to a pulp" every week and it wouldn't get old. Is there anyone - who knows the Jason Todd storyline, or who has more than a passing knowledge of the Joker - who feels bad about this scene? Anyone?
@@Ramzeke True, but knowing the Joker? The longer he's alive and kicking the more opportunities he has to distract, escape, kill. Safest thing to do is say bye and put a slug in his skull.
The Joker represents the pure evil in all of us. It's cathartic to see him put down as opposed to "off to Arkham with you" for the 300th time. Hell, even Bats kills him in a few (dream) storylines. But I do get that he's been killed quite a bit now lol.
In the end; the best punishment to Joker is what the Justice Lord Superman did to him: lobotomy. It reprogrammed him into being a compliant little drone while keeping his appearance. That would be a two for one special type of punishment right there as it technically kills the Joker, ensuring he remains as an example of what happens to those like him, and destroying his legacy. It's the type of thing that would actually terrify the Joker too.
Batman: When you kill a killer the number of killer is still the same Me: Yeah but the number of future victim is drastically lowered when it's killers like the Joker.
Way to defuse the situation Barbara. Not. She could have knocked Joker unconscious instead of letting him provoke Jason. She may never admit it but I think part of her wanted Jason to take the shot, and is glad that he did.
Honestly, this should have been the conclusion to Jokers story arc. I couldn't imagine being so self-righteous that it brings tears to your eyes to see someone like the joker get shot. You always get the "we're better than this speech." How much better morally than everyone do you think you are? Even if you kill and cross that line, what makes you think someone else can't cross the line and come back. Just makes me so disgusted with the idea of the "bat family" as a whole. Every time Jason shows up, I'm reminded just how insane they can be at times.
I always interpreted her crying more as a fear of Jason falling back into the whole killing every thug he meets. Barbara even missed on purpose because deep down she wanted to kill him too. All that woman has ever been told is that once you cross the line you can't go back. If anything her tears are more emblematic of Batman's constant pressure and philosophy. At this moment they needed their big brother more than anyone else
@ OverWeight Gerbil. True. Do we call soldiers, murderers when they kill an enemy? Do we call the man who throws the switch on the condemned, in the electric chair, a murderer? Do we call an officer who shoots a man who's holding someone hostage, a murderer? No. Because we know that these are very special circumstances, which not only justify, but necessitate, killing. And that killing someone who is both evil, and dangerous, is a service to society.
Punisher: Tell you what, if you just say ‘riddle me this Batman’ I’ll let you go. Joker: Oh so maudlin…fine, ‘riddle me-‘ Punisher: *fires full auto* Joker: That’s…not…urk…funny *dies*
The Criminal was The First Joker. (Arthur Fleck?) He was the joker that batman encountered in the earilest comics. The Clown was The Everyman Joker. (Jack Napier?) He is the joker we all based our expectations and knowledge of. The Comedian... was The Original. (Forever Unknown?) While he was not the most popular or came first, he was the one who started it all. He is the legend, and the legacy. The Joker.
I believe that the last spark of Jokers sanity is trying to get himself killed because he knows he is unredemable. Maybe it's the chemicals, maybe the Joker always has been like that slumbering under the surface but one thing is certain. He needs to be put down
Possibly, though in real life, some cop would have had "an accidental discharge" a long time ago. "Honest sarge, he was tryin' to get loose and my gun just went off".... Batman or no batman. Nobody would have put up with this BS this long.
Definitely my favorite of the three Jokers in this story, cackling menace to the end. Shame gaggy didn’t stick around too long though. Nice for them to confirm Joker can still be kill without any of that nonsense gas spewing out of him like he’s an evil balloon too.
Completely with Jason here. Killing a thing like the Joker saves all the lives he would have gone on to kill otherwise. Sure, the number of killers may remain the same, but the future number of people alive increases. I'm honestly so tired with so many of Batman's villains getting shoved into Arkham only to break out a week later. If containment in one place doesn't work, it's time to try another place or build a better place, and if that doesn't work, if they prove time and time again that they can escape containment, don't care about rehabilitation, and keep on killing, then it's time to consider execution.
The right Joker or not, finally, someone has done the right thing! Reducing the total number of Gotham's incurable psychopaths by 1. I have had enough of Batman' bs. If I were Jason, having been through all of that, I would do the same, too.
@@FernandoComicsOfficial Totally agree! Just kill him. IF Arkham Asylum is nothing more than a motel for the Joker to rest and then break out whenever he wants so that he can massacre people; IF the entire Gotham's justice system fails to punish the Joker THEN just kill him!
The ridiculousness of people not wanting Joker dead, and joker not being killed a long time ago is the one thing that turned me off form batman. It's not immoral to kill a mass murderer who keeps on killing, no matter how many times you arrest and jail him.
I have to agree, while I think most of Batman rogues are redemable and deserve to have some kind of happy ending, but in case of Joker I don't understand why Batman protect Joker from death, I mean he literaly resurected him with Lazarus Pit when he was killed for killing Jason, I mean why he did that he had no problem with beating Hatter half to death and leaving him to drown, leaving KGbeast to starve and saving him only because Robin conviced him to save him, or breaking someones neck and leaving them to die because they killed or injured one of his Robins (I don't remember this one in details), he even once brutally beat Mr. Freeze and forced him to take blame for murder just because he was angry about his failed wedding, this makes Batman a hudge hyporcite. Also I hate how they turned him into abusive father to his robins.
Batgirl, this is the clown who's crippled you and torment the people you love multiple times. Somehow, you're more upset at the guy who took out that said clown (assuming that's the same Joker). Ain't the first time that Jason was dropping bodies, this should not be a shocker to the Bat family.
He puts them in jail. Which is what the entire police and court system also does. If you think Batman should kill these people, then you think the police should do the same, as he relies on them for his entire operation.
@@avinashhalscon8902 "these people" being the joker and such? There are no civilians with the kill count of the joker. The equivalent would be a war lord or a terrorist cell leader. They don't send the police after them, they send the military and they do in fact get killed, very regularly too.
@@avinashhalscon8902 riiiiiiight. Batman should be smart enough to know they always get out. Hell, he should realize he is a character in a book at this point. The sheer volume of "joker escapes arkham.....again" is ridiculous. I get that they need "villain repeat", but Batman, as written, is largely ineffective.
@@FernandoComicsOfficial did the cosmic radiation cause it to be rock hard or shrivel it like radiating a cancerous tumor is the question lol, could also go a long way in explaining like the Hulks rage ha.
Batgirl, ya really cant be at Jason. Dude is facing the guy who KILLED him and is mocking him about it. Then he tells him he is a product of Joker and not Batman. He had it coming. Jason was even crying.
I don't doubt that there are very few Batman fans who didn't find this immensely satisfying. The fact of the matter is that the death penalty exists for several very good reasons... 1: Some people are so evil, that they DESRVE to die. The Joker may or may not be insane, but he is definitely evil. We all know this. We've always known this. The Joker doesn't do what he does, because he thinks that he is on some kind of holy mission.... He doesn't do it because he believes that aliens are giving him orders.... He terrorizes, brutalizes, tortures, and horribly murders innocent people, for pleasure and for attention. 2. To give the victims and their loved ones, a sense of satisfaction and closure. 3. Because some people are just too dangerous, for society to take the chance that they will ever be paroled, or pardoned, or have the charges dismissed on a technicality, or simply, escape. And with all of the horror and massive destruction which the Joker and others like him, have inflicted on the people of Gotham City over many years, I think that if this were happening in the real world, the state of New York (where Gotham Cty is supposed to be located) would have long since, passed a bill, exempting super-villains from being found Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity; and sent the Joker, Killer Crock, Bane, and others like them, to the chair; and fried their evil brains until their eyes popped like eggs in a skillet.
Even more to the point, there are some people so evil the only way to keep others safe is to put them down. Like a rabid dog. You don't kill a rabid dog because you hate the dog. It just has to be done to stop the dog from hurting others.
And on point three, this is exactly what happened in Frank Miller's Batman Returns. They let Joker out of Arkham because of a publicity seeking doctor, and wound up with hundreds of people dying needlessly. In the end Miller's Batman killed Joker. But, only after it was far too late.
Holy shit this was so good wtf. Wish they made this into an animated movie or something. We all know that wasn’t the real joker though, also, wtf was that ending man 😭
Batman has been ultimately responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. Captures Joker… Joker escapes and kills again. If he’d done the dirty years ago, how many would be still alive?
While people are shitting on everybody for reacting negatively to this Joker’s killing and praising Jason to heaven and back, there’s one painfully obvious reason why he shouldn’t have let this Joker get to him and pull the trigger that I can’t believe nobody has pointed out yet or how somebody has to, if you’re still unwilling to accept or acknowledge every other reason: They need answers. Badly. Jason killing this Joker hurt their investigation, if anything. Anybody who seriously thinks they’re upset that Jason killed the Joker, especially *because* he’s the Joker, really needs to think again. They’re upset because he killed at all and let this Joker get to him. They’re upset because they need answers. They’re upset because Jason may have not only affected the investigation but also probably murdered a victim. It’s bad enough some people are drawing conclusions on what they saw and what happened incorrectly or in an exaggerated light, like, for example, *how* upset people are saying Barbara is or got and why compared to what actually happened on the pages. The ‘why’ often applies to the fact that many of these same commenters are ignoring other factors in things like Barbara’s reaction or what Jason was so clearly feeling and mentally going through before he pulled the trigger.
@Dragular I mean Batgirl looks bad on both ends. Batgirl is just as guilty as Jason for killing the joker. She didn't want to stop him , she let Jason kill the joker. Thus, Jason's remark of her not missing he shots. She never misses, but in this instance, she did when hitting her shot meant saving the joker. So she was complicit. So, she either looks like a hypocrite or a person who lets her feelings in the way of the mission.
@@Saxton_Hoovy What? You’re completely missing something. It was clearly a deep-down sorta subconscious thing. Batgirl got upset because Jason hit her with what was, at least to her, quite possibly, a hard truth she could barely respond to the way she did at all. She knows what’s right and wrong just as any ordinary Human does but just as that, deep down she wants the Joker to pay. This also has to do with that fact that she also knew deep down there was a chance this was the real Joker.
the one thing i always disliked about batman: batman arrests joker, puts him in arkham and says "ok thats over". Joker gets out, kill a BUNCH of people, destroys a BUNCH of families and do other horrible things, batman arrests the joker, puts him in arkham and says "ok thats over". and the loop of death continues because batman can put an end to it, and save more people than he ever could because he lets the joker live.
Worse, he won't let anybody else put him down. That's what gets under my skin. OK I get you don't kill. Fine. Get the hell out of the way and let someone who is willing to get their hands dirty do it then.
There's a certain banality that comes with the real-world morality of batman - being that criminals don't need to die, they need appropriate help and support - clashing against the madcap supervillainy of the DC universe. In the real world, Batman's philosophy is _incontrovertibly_ right, because people don't do things out of "pure evil" - since pure evil does not exist. It's a fantasy employed in varying ways to make situations feel simpler than they are, so that they don't feel morally objectionable to most ordinary people. It's a rather different effect to ask someone "I need you to track down and kill this evil person" versus "I want you to execute an emotionally traumatised and/or mentally ill person who has been radicalised by a system which preys upon underprivileged individuals, a system which you will now help to perpetuate". On the flipside, we have DC's long laundry list of supervillains, but more importantly, the company's unwillingness to make permanent change for the sake of storytelling, because they can always make more money off of a returning face than some zany new character that nobody's heard of before. DC's comic continuity is fundamentally an universe without consequences, in which character development is based on what _sells_ rather than what makes sense. The Joker being given appropriate help and support so that he can live an ordinary life without butchering families over a bad hair day? Sure, that can work... for about half a comic run. Then it's right back to the good ole clown prince of crime, because that feeds off of people's sense of nostalgia, and afterall, it's worked for fifty years - why should it stop working now? And it doesn't. But it also trivialises any healthy development the character makes, and it makes Batman look like a fool. Yet, nonetheless, it is far better for Batman to retain his historic philosophy than to suddenly decide all the bad guys need to die - and this is something which DC at least seems to understand; if Batman well and truly stops being a paragon, then all the young folk who style themselves after him will develop an awful (and, crucially, _unrealistic_ ) perspective on the world. Is it a marketing thing as well? Yes, of course it is. But a hopeful outlook on life is not merely the purview of children, it is at this point in time the most proactive view for anyone in the world to have. Universal pessimism is a short road to developing behaviours harmful to both oneself and others, and it promotes a worldview with exceptionally narrow horizons. Yeah anyways I'm gonna go for a walk because this much online discussion has me craving grass and sunlight.
What happens when you apply logic to life and death. Joker would continue to kill so long as he was living. The only way to stop Joker from killing, from a logical standpoint, is to kill him. This is why as much as I love Bats as a character, Punisher is right. Some criminals have to be put down. Its not enough to put them in prison/asylums when they keep escaping and keep killing. The sad truth is, Batman was always wrong. If society can't contain people like Joker, you have to have a Red Hood, or Punisher to stop them.
For Batman to accept he is wrong is to accept all the lives he ended by not stopping the joker. Maybe he could’ve at the start of his career but he’s in too deep at this point
About time, the needs of the many out weight the needs of the few. Never understood why batman would let him keep killing innocents than rather just kill him. I know what i would do :)
The whole Batman/Joker dance is dumb. But it exposes Batman's pathology in an interesting way. I would love to see Batman exposed, and hunted by the law and other so-called crime fighters as an active accomplice in the Joker's murders. I mean, just how many innocent lives have been sacrificed to Batman's 'no killing" code? I don't follow the books as closely as I used to, but has that been done?
The whole point of Joker doing what he does is that if it’s on Batman’s watch,he gets a slap on the wrist and locked up in a place he can get out of whenever he wants.That’s why Joker was scared shitless of the Punisher when he realized that Frank isn’t held back by some bs arbitrary code.Jason did the right thing,if Barbara really wanted to diffuse the situation she could have knocked the Joker out to keep him from taunting and pushing Jason’s buttons
how many times joker getting caught, escaped, killing hundreds or thousand of victim and then getting caught again just to escaped again?? is it really because of dubious moral justice or author/publisher doesnt have any new villain material??
@@danielwood6833 If Mark is up for it by then. He says the Joker voice kinda hurts now cause he’s getting old. But yes, sounds great. And the real Joker, of course, would be voiced by Mark
I do understand batmans don't kill code After all he's not judge jury or executioner. However I find it very hard to think that Gotham doesn't have the death penelty by now.
Seeing all these comments talking about this kind of thing, I sometimes think about an interesting new story about a new kind of take on towards Batman and his "One Rule" finally being put into question and being the ultimate test for DC and it's fans that if Batman (and to an extent, the other close Bat Family members) should be truly held accountable to the deaths of all victims of the Joker (and other rogues gallery) that he murdered just because Batman wouldn't kill him when he instead constantly throws him into Arkham Asylum where Joker would easily get out and kill more people. Though, whenever or not this would either challenge Batman at the risk of his sanity and fear of falling towards the path of being unable to stop himself of killing more people that he could end up killing innocents OR, in a more darker interpretation of how people view Batman's morality, the risk of his ego and pride of only wanting to play cat and mouse with Joker and the other villains while having the thrill of beating up criminals but not killing them. This honestly feels like a new and fresh kind of thing DC should try for once.
Either that or just have Batman mention he's killed the Joker half a dozen times at this point and complain that Hell is even more of a cardboard prison than Arkham is.
“Kill one killer and the amount of killers remains the same”
Punisher: That’s why we carry ammo belts, idiot
I mean he's right 🤷♂️
Batman :that's why you are a sociopathic coward who can't even control himself to not kill, it's like a sexual pleasure to you frank. I don't this type of things at all, but your didn't satisfy you need in the past or were you the one who didn't for her?
Pretty sad when Frank has ziptie handcuffs to arrest criminals, even though he'd usually kill them.
I will become the monster to kill all the other ones
Another Punisher Answer: Who says you have to stop after ONE?"
In all honesty, I am 100% with Jason for this one. Considering he died and then was brought back, only to see that his killer had been left alive to kill even more, it's already a miracle he's even come to terms with Batman.
There were so many things Barbara could have done here. Like making Joker shut the hell up, or actually talk Jason down by comforting him. But no, she litteraly just stood here and watched as an abuser forced his victim to relieve all of the thrauma he had put him through; she knew Jason couldn't handle the situation, yet she did nothing.
i agree
Because deep down, she wanted him to pull the trigger.
@@korien8976 This.
She missed.
@@12MRJERSEY she wouldn't have had to throw a batatang, had she done something before the damage had been done.
There is nothing morally wrong with killing someone like the Joker. Good on Jason for finally and concretely ending his reign of terror.
Some criminals have a chance of redemption but some really need to be put down
Try convince Batman of that
You’re not wrong. But instead of Batman or Jason doing the deed it should have been the state that should have been the one to put the Joker down. First time he committed his crimes ok lock him up in Arkham and try to rehabilitate him, he then escapes and does commits even worse crime, ok let’s lock him up in a more secure manner and try again, third time he breaks out and commits even worse crimes, that’s it it’s clear he’s beyond redemption time for the state to hand down the death penalty. But instead they keep locking him up only for him to escape and k ill again and again and again. Hell I’m willing to bet Gotham’s cemeteries are filled with his victims from every single time he’s escaped. And yet the State doesn’t do anything other than lock him up. I agree that Batman shouldn’t be the one to k ill the Joker it should have been the State a long time ago. The fact that the State doesn’t hand out the death penalty for the Jokers crimes is quite frankly and insult to the justice that Batman fights for. It’s not like handing it out to a simple mugger or bank robber, this is a megalomaniac that commits mass m urder with glee and has no remorse whatsoever for his crimes. The Joker is beyond redemption and should’ve been taken care of by the state years ago.
@@jackojock101 batman's right
@@michaelrobertson4896 batman is everywhere, joker is too
Jason: *Kills Joker*
Injustice Superman: That's my boy!
Jason: I'm not doing this for you.
@@KainSpada09 Injustice Superman: No, But you and I are Not so different.
Jason : Unlike you I don’t kill innocent people
In injustice 2 Jason states that he doesn’t favor tyrant(injustice Superman)
@@emmanuelojurongbe2469 Injustice Superman: I didn't Kill innocent People, I Only Kill Criminals and Villains who threatens innocent People.
Honestly that argument of "if you kill a murderer there is still one" it's starting to become real bs, because one murderer could potentially kill a 1k people and the murderer's murderer would only kill one and save way more. Admittedly in Joker's case that would mean his definitive victory but it's just dumb that he gets to live another day while being one of the most dangerous psychopaths around that continues proving again and again that he should definitely be terminated.
Jokers "victory" is a mind game he plays with the morons of the bat family cus he knows their iq is in the negative digits.
I'm just getting tired of the notion that killing the Joker is somehow some kind of 'victory' for him. That the Joker's life is somehow more precious and valuable to every hero in the world, than the lives of the innocent people he kills. Seriously, they constantly depict every hero in the DC universe bending over backwards, knocking themselves stupid, trying to SAVE the Joker's life. And to what end? To prove they're 'better than that'? Insanity plea or not, in real life, a killer like the Joker would have gotten the death penalty a thousand times over.
I understand the use of 'plot armor' in telling a story, but in the Joker's case, it's gotten hackneyed and stale, how the writers protect him and make his excuses.
@@DeathReviews The Joker wants to prove to all those with the most bs moral code ever invented "I don't kill, I'm not like you" that yes you are also killers... maybe not genocidal but you still killed and that's how the justification begins look at Superman bruh every time no one thinks of locking him up like a demon in another dimension to literally prove that the hero is right and finally the joker has lost for good...
@@mongeau98 if you don't kill, you didn't kill. Stop spinning and spitting nonsense
@@DeathReviews "even bruce figured it out eventually, you know how many people joker has killed since batman bashed his head in? Zero , i like that kind of math" Superboy
"I thought I was the last person you'd ever let him hurt"
Fantastic line.
(Jason turns to camera)
"That's all folks."
That would be the best way to end this !
"Screw you Jason" says the person who was only waiting for someone else to do it so she can keep parading herself as morally superior to those who had the guts to go for the kill. There's nothing wrong with killing individuals who, in every sense of the word, actually take pleasure in killing innocent people with zero chances of redemption. The Joker gets to kill more because they're too selfish to see past their self-righteousness rather than the greater good.
“When’s the last time you missed” Damn
I would have to side with Jason on this one. Joker basically forced Jason to relive that trauma, and Barbara just stood there and did nothing to stop it, with Jason holding a gun to Joker. And while that speech from Joker was taking place, Barbara didn't gag him, no punches, nothing. Just stood there and watched. And if anything, I'm glad that after Jason pulled the trigger, and the speech between him and Barbara took place, he asked 'When was the last time you missed?' Not so much in her hitting Jason's hand, but how she missed his gun. That one question proved to Jason how right he was about wanting the same as him, in terms of killing Joker. In the instance of killing Joker makes you question this. How many more people would Joker have killed, until he was killed? Since he can basically walk out the front door of the Asylum any time he wanted.
I bet the head of security of Arkham is reeeeealy underpaid
I never understood the idea of multiple Jokers. That psychopath doesn't seem the sort to tolerate others out there like him. He would want to be Batman's one and only.
Yes , the Joker was always extremely pathetic in how he was desperate to feel unique and special and needing to be Batman's main problem in some cosmic play where he used innocent people as props (Which is why turning him normal is the best way to defeat him if not actually torture him) , he would not allow anyone poaching on his cringe persona .
Read the comic’s ending and find out
I think the only way to really "defeat" Joker is to not care. Someone completely unrelated to him and unaffected by him taking him down. Doesn't listen to his jokes, doesn't listen to his name, doesn't even give him a second glance after breaking his bones and leaving him on the ground.
How could Joker stand being taken down by a nobody and treated like a nobody?
What he needs more than anything, is to mean something, to be the darkness etched into people's souls. Without that, he's nothing.
Punisher would be good. He almost did once and Joker actually had a “oh God, he’s fr!” Moment
So, basically. Bring another psychopath in the equation, like James Gordon Jr. Except more ethical and civilized.
Joker can't hurt someone who is incapable of being emotionally damaged.
Or bring the Punisher to solve it. That works too
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I think this was on the batman animated series. A random politician has the power to kill him and the joker was terrified because he's gonna be killed by someone he doesnt know. Even a crackhead with a gun should do the trick
That's what I've always thought if I was jason I would catch the joker tie him up and just have a random thug shoot him hell even better cover the joker's face and mouth and make it so the guy doesn't even know who he's killing I think that honestly would really tick the joker off
sorry Barbara, if you were in Jason's shoes that time you would do the same
It's like the end of Se7en. What would you have done? Oh, I can tell you what I would have done. Not gonna spoil it for the 2 people who haven't seen it tho
@@Whats.Next.Videos well she had support from her friends and her father Jason had none
She was way too judgy here I'd say.
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He also stripped her naked after he shot her, took photos of her while she was lying on the floor, bleeding out, and then showed the pictures to her father.
"I'll be your Robin." Wow, did not expect him to say that bit there. Being Robin in the beginning with Batman, then being Red Hood at the end with Joker dead(?).
That's dark, dark man. Wild line.
I read A Death In the Family. He did NOT say that.
He said "I wish I'd never met Bruce Wayne".
And you can't blame him, at that point.
Anyone will break, under torture.
It could have happened. comics are panels. and there are MANY scenes and panels left out. Cuz we only have only so many pages to print. So yeah. I can see that happening. Makes sense, the beating wasn't in just 1 book of panels. It probably happened alot and brutally. Ugh. Poor kid. honestly Punisher wouldn't have wasted more than a breath and a bullet.
The artwork on this is just beautiful. Well done.
Beautiful art. Wish there was more of it.
Barbara seems to forget that the Joker shot,crippled and humiliated her too (referring to the Killing Joke).
And also caused a miscarriage too
I could watch "xxxx beats the Joker to a pulp" every week and it wouldn't get old.
Is there anyone - who knows the Jason Todd storyline, or who has more than a passing knowledge of the Joker - who feels bad about this scene?
Anyone?
I do, mostly cuz Jason ended it too quick lol
@Ramzeke lmao. Yeah I'm with you but i don't go too deeply into that stuff. Too dark for yt
@@Ramzeke True, but knowing the Joker? The longer he's alive and kicking the more opportunities he has to distract, escape, kill. Safest thing to do is say bye and put a slug in his skull.
I could as well. I wish thered been more to it honestly.
@FernandoComicsOfficial Good vs evil at its finest!
Love your channel man, keep it up.
Anyone gonna talk about the thing at the end 💀
Nope...not a word
Nope, not gonna say a word LOL
So how many times are we gonna see Jason kill the Joker?
Yes
The Joker represents the pure evil in all of us. It's cathartic to see him put down as opposed to "off to Arkham with you" for the 300th time. Hell, even Bats kills him in a few (dream) storylines.
But I do get that he's been killed quite a bit now lol.
Im all for as many times as he wants !
It's from the Three Jokers series, so realistically, at least two more times
@@BobFromDildo
I would have paid good money to see Jason beat him to death with a crowbar, then blow his nearly lifeless body to bits.
In the end; the best punishment to Joker is what the Justice Lord Superman did to him: lobotomy. It reprogrammed him into being a compliant little drone while keeping his appearance. That would be a two for one special type of punishment right there as it technically kills the Joker, ensuring he remains as an example of what happens to those like him, and destroying his legacy.
It's the type of thing that would actually terrify the Joker too.
My favorite red hood outfit. Basically his old robin gear with some of his own stuff
Thanks Barbara, you were very useful.
Way to improve the situation Barb.
Batman: When you kill a killer the number of killer is still the same
Me: Yeah but the number of future victim is drastically lowered when it's killers like the Joker.
Robin: When you put a criminal behind bars by being a vigilante the number of criminals on the street remains the same.
Batman...
That's a rock butt.
Indeed my friend.
Way to defuse the situation Barbara. Not. She could have knocked Joker unconscious instead of letting him provoke Jason. She may never admit it but I think part of her wanted Jason to take the shot, and is glad that he did.
Honestly, this should have been the conclusion to Jokers story arc. I couldn't imagine being so self-righteous that it brings tears to your eyes to see someone like the joker get shot. You always get the "we're better than this speech." How much better morally than everyone do you think you are? Even if you kill and cross that line, what makes you think someone else can't cross the line and come back. Just makes me so disgusted with the idea of the "bat family" as a whole. Every time Jason shows up, I'm reminded just how insane they can be at times.
I always interpreted her crying more as a fear of Jason falling back into the whole killing every thug he meets. Barbara even missed on purpose because deep down she wanted to kill him too. All that woman has ever been told is that once you cross the line you can't go back. If anything her tears are more emblematic of Batman's constant pressure and philosophy. At this moment they needed their big brother more than anyone else
@@brianlafontaine3111 well said
@ OverWeight Gerbil.
True.
Do we call soldiers, murderers when they kill an enemy?
Do we call the man who throws the switch on the condemned, in the electric chair, a murderer?
Do we call an officer who shoots a man who's holding someone hostage, a murderer?
No.
Because we know that these are very special circumstances, which not only justify, but necessitate, killing.
And that killing someone who is both evil, and dangerous, is a service to society.
Punisher: Tell you what, if you just say ‘riddle me this Batman’ I’ll let you go.
Joker: Oh so maudlin…fine, ‘riddle me-‘
Punisher: *fires full auto*
Joker: That’s…not…urk…funny *dies*
What good is proving yourself better when it doesn't stop the bloodshed?
To bad he only decides to do this when there’s 3 of them 💀💀💀
Thoroughly searched and tied to a chair. Clear cut case of self defense.
The Criminal was The First Joker. (Arthur Fleck?)
He was the joker that batman encountered in the earilest comics.
The Clown was The Everyman Joker. (Jack Napier?)
He is the joker we all based our expectations and knowledge of.
The Comedian... was The Original. (Forever Unknown?)
While he was not the most popular or came first, he was the one who started it all.
He is the legend, and the legacy. The Joker.
you have done well anakin, you're fulfilling your destiny my boy
He does have some Anakin vibes !
Man I love it when I see you’ve released a vid
That means a lot to me man 👊☝️ thank you so much
Now I see why people are only playing Jason in Gotham knights
I believe that the last spark of Jokers sanity is trying to get himself killed because he knows he is unredemable. Maybe it's the chemicals, maybe the Joker always has been like that slumbering under the surface but one thing is certain. He needs to be put down
Possibly, though in real life, some cop would have had "an accidental discharge" a long time ago. "Honest sarge, he was tryin' to get loose and my gun just went off"....
Batman or no batman. Nobody would have put up with this BS this long.
The punisher approves
So does Rorschach.
6:11 "its called justifiable homocide in the line of duty."
Well done my friend Fernando! I don't get to keep up with the story as I'd like and really get a kick out of your videos.
6:22 best answer EVER. I ENDED IT!
Definitely my favorite of the three Jokers in this story, cackling menace to the end. Shame gaggy didn’t stick around too long though. Nice for them to confirm Joker can still be kill without any of that nonsense gas spewing out of him like he’s an evil balloon too.
Gas?
If there was ever someone you should confirm the kill on, it is Joker.
Yep. That mag has more than one pill in it. Better make sure.
"I'm great!" - Lord Superman, after killing Lex Luthor
She cared more for keeping that psycho alive than what happened to Jason.
Kinna got that feeling from the ending of 7even again! Being played to do the wetwork.
Completely with Jason here. Killing a thing like the Joker saves all the lives he would have gone on to kill otherwise. Sure, the number of killers may remain the same, but the future number of people alive increases. I'm honestly so tired with so many of Batman's villains getting shoved into Arkham only to break out a week later. If containment in one place doesn't work, it's time to try another place or build a better place, and if that doesn't work, if they prove time and time again that they can escape containment, don't care about rehabilitation, and keep on killing, then it's time to consider execution.
Or at the very least, lobotomizing them.
I know that argument from the end of Fritz Lang's 1931 film "M"; it was designed to represent the NS way of thinking about people ...
The right Joker or not, finally, someone has done the right thing! Reducing the total number of Gotham's incurable psychopaths by 1. I have had enough of Batman' bs. If I were Jason, having been through all of that, I would do the same, too.
Yeah, they hype the decision to kill him up way too much in my opinion. Just kill him.
@@FernandoComicsOfficial Totally agree! Just kill him.
IF Arkham Asylum is nothing more than a motel for the Joker to rest and then break out whenever he wants so that he can massacre people;
IF the entire Gotham's justice system fails to punish the Joker
THEN just kill him!
Jason, if he's not the right one, lather rinse repeat.
The ridiculousness of people not wanting Joker dead, and joker not being killed a long time ago is the one thing that turned me off form batman. It's not immoral to kill a mass murderer who keeps on killing, no matter how many times you arrest and jail him.
I have to agree, while I think most of Batman rogues are redemable and deserve to have some kind of happy ending, but in case of Joker I don't understand why Batman protect Joker from death, I mean he literaly resurected him with Lazarus Pit when he was killed for killing Jason, I mean why he did that he had no problem with beating Hatter half to death and leaving him to drown, leaving KGbeast to starve and saving him only because Robin conviced him to save him, or breaking someones neck and leaving them to die because they killed or injured one of his Robins (I don't remember this one in details), he even once brutally beat Mr. Freeze and forced him to take blame for murder just because he was angry about his failed wedding, this makes Batman a hudge hyporcite. Also I hate how they turned him into abusive father to his robins.
Batgirl, this is the clown who's crippled you and torment the people you love multiple times. Somehow, you're more upset at the guy who took out that said clown (assuming that's the same Joker). Ain't the first time that Jason was dropping bodies, this should not be a shocker to the Bat family.
Batman's biggest flaw is that he never ends a threat. He just pushes it aside until later.
He puts them in jail. Which is what the entire police and court system also does.
If you think Batman should kill these people, then you think the police should do the same, as he relies on them for his entire operation.
@@avinashhalscon8902 bruh it's not that deep writer needs to repeat villan lol
@@avinashhalscon8902 "these people" being the joker and such?
There are no civilians with the kill count of the joker.
The equivalent would be a war lord or a terrorist cell leader. They don't send the police after them, they send the military and they do in fact get killed, very regularly too.
@@avinashhalscon8902 batman and police should kill yes
@@avinashhalscon8902 riiiiiiight. Batman should be smart enough to know they always get out. Hell, he should realize he is a character in a book at this point. The sheer volume of "joker escapes arkham.....again" is ridiculous. I get that they need "villain repeat", but Batman, as written, is largely ineffective.
I love you joker
Damn Joker is a genius.
7:18 and barbra for some rrason just heard a trumpet go "womp womp".
Does the Thing have an Onlyfans?
Yeah, want to sign up ?
The Things thing....cmon man lol!
No clue how that got there !
@@FernandoComicsOfficial did the cosmic radiation cause it to be rock hard or shrivel it like radiating a cancerous tumor is the question lol, could also go a long way in explaining like the Hulks rage ha.
Batgirl, ya really cant be at Jason. Dude is facing the guy who KILLED him and is mocking him about it. Then he tells him he is a product of Joker and not Batman. He had it coming. Jason was even crying.
About time...
I don't doubt that there are very few Batman fans who didn't find this immensely satisfying.
The fact of the matter is that the death penalty exists for several very good reasons...
1: Some people are so evil, that they DESRVE to die.
The Joker may or may not be insane, but he is definitely evil.
We all know this.
We've always known this.
The Joker doesn't do what he does, because he thinks that he is on some kind of holy mission....
He doesn't do it because he believes that aliens are giving him orders....
He terrorizes, brutalizes, tortures, and horribly murders innocent people, for pleasure and for attention.
2. To give the victims and their loved ones, a sense of satisfaction and closure.
3. Because some people are just too dangerous, for society to take the chance that they will ever be paroled, or pardoned, or have the charges dismissed on a technicality, or simply, escape.
And with all of the horror and massive destruction which the Joker and others like him, have inflicted on the people of Gotham City over many years, I think that if this were happening in the real world, the state of New York (where Gotham Cty is supposed to be located) would have long since, passed a bill, exempting super-villains from being found Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity; and sent the Joker, Killer Crock, Bane, and others like them, to the chair; and fried their evil brains until their eyes popped like eggs in a skillet.
Even more to the point, there are some people so evil the only way to keep others safe is to put them down. Like a rabid dog. You don't kill a rabid dog because you hate the dog. It just has to be done to stop the dog from hurting others.
And on point three, this is exactly what happened in Frank Miller's Batman Returns. They let Joker out of Arkham because of a publicity seeking doctor, and wound up with hundreds of people dying needlessly. In the end Miller's Batman killed Joker. But, only after it was far too late.
The clown had too many jokes and early sleep.
Well, about time someone did what was necessary.
Hand wringing over the Joker. Punisher would stop his shit cold.
If Joker taunted barbra, she'd be begging Jason to shoot him
You know
It's kinda frustrating how Joker is more of a menace than Reverse Flash
Holy shit this was so good wtf. Wish they made this into an animated movie or something. We all know that wasn’t the real joker though, also, wtf was that ending man 😭
oh cut that out you dang thing butt jokes lol
Batman has been ultimately responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. Captures Joker… Joker escapes and kills again. If he’d done the dirty years ago, how many would be still alive?
Hundreds if not thousands. This is why I think ultimately Punisher is right.
So now Batman is going to go after him to bring him to justice for murder.
Rabid animals need to be put down. We can say this but how many animals still exist because we don’t want the guilt of being the trigger man.
I wonder if gotham would ever give Joker the death sentence. I would make alot of happy
the whole point of this arc was you can't kill the joker he's become the same as batman an Idea a symbol
If Jason kill the joker, the amount of deaths city wide would technical decrease if Jason never killed a villain again.
While people are shitting on everybody for reacting negatively to this Joker’s killing and praising Jason to heaven and back, there’s one painfully obvious reason why he shouldn’t have let this Joker get to him and pull the trigger that I can’t believe nobody has pointed out yet or how somebody has to, if you’re still unwilling to accept or acknowledge every other reason: They need answers. Badly. Jason killing this Joker hurt their investigation, if anything. Anybody who seriously thinks they’re upset that Jason killed the Joker, especially *because* he’s the Joker, really needs to think again. They’re upset because he killed at all and let this Joker get to him. They’re upset because they need answers. They’re upset because Jason may have not only affected the investigation but also probably murdered a victim.
It’s bad enough some people are drawing conclusions on what they saw and what happened incorrectly or in an exaggerated light, like, for example, *how* upset people are saying Barbara is or got and why compared to what actually happened on the pages. The ‘why’ often applies to the fact that many of these same commenters are ignoring other factors in things like Barbara’s reaction or what Jason was so clearly feeling and mentally going through before he pulled the trigger.
@Dragular I mean Batgirl looks bad on both ends. Batgirl is just as guilty as Jason for killing the joker. She didn't want to stop him , she let Jason kill the joker. Thus, Jason's remark of her not missing he shots. She never misses, but in this instance, she did when hitting her shot meant saving the joker. So she was complicit. So, she either looks like a hypocrite or a person who lets her feelings in the way of the mission.
@@Saxton_Hoovy What? You’re completely missing something. It was clearly a deep-down sorta subconscious thing. Batgirl got upset because Jason hit her with what was, at least to her, quite possibly, a hard truth she could barely respond to the way she did at all. She knows what’s right and wrong just as any ordinary Human does but just as that, deep down she wants the Joker to pay. This also has to do with that fact that she also knew deep down there was a chance this was the real Joker.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days Thank you.
i'm not gonna lie the whole "there are three jokers" thing ruined everything
Nobody gonna talk about what was shown at the end of the video?
Thing coming out of the shower? Honestly i don't know what to male of it!
You're welcome 🫡
_There was no _*_thing_*_ else on the end of the video on Ba Sing Se..._
Indeed, how did that get there ?
Thats what I want to know 🤷♂️
Hope it keeps this time (probably not-no one dies forever in comics)!
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So this is like, what, the thousandth time the Joker's been killed? Doesn't Batman have any other villains?
Batman’s no kill rule pisses me off honestly, this is why Red Hood is probably my favorite
Red hood doesn’t kill anymore either he got tired of getting spanked by Batman or have you not caught to that part yet
the one thing i always disliked about batman: batman arrests joker, puts him in arkham and says "ok thats over". Joker gets out, kill a BUNCH of people, destroys a BUNCH of families and do other horrible things, batman arrests the joker, puts him in arkham and says "ok thats over".
and the loop of death continues because batman can put an end to it, and save more people than he ever could because he lets the joker live.
Fun fact: that's exact the same thing that islamistic terrorists say about the USA ...
Worse, he won't let anybody else put him down. That's what gets under my skin. OK I get you don't kill. Fine. Get the hell out of the way and let someone who is willing to get their hands dirty do it then.
Notice the weird smile at 5:58.
Poor Joker, he never deserved that.
I never thought someone feels bad for joker
And the fish are nibbling the bait...
There's a certain banality that comes with the real-world morality of batman - being that criminals don't need to die, they need appropriate help and support - clashing against the madcap supervillainy of the DC universe. In the real world, Batman's philosophy is _incontrovertibly_ right, because people don't do things out of "pure evil" - since pure evil does not exist. It's a fantasy employed in varying ways to make situations feel simpler than they are, so that they don't feel morally objectionable to most ordinary people. It's a rather different effect to ask someone "I need you to track down and kill this evil person" versus "I want you to execute an emotionally traumatised and/or mentally ill person who has been radicalised by a system which preys upon underprivileged individuals, a system which you will now help to perpetuate".
On the flipside, we have DC's long laundry list of supervillains, but more importantly, the company's unwillingness to make permanent change for the sake of storytelling, because they can always make more money off of a returning face than some zany new character that nobody's heard of before. DC's comic continuity is fundamentally an universe without consequences, in which character development is based on what _sells_ rather than what makes sense. The Joker being given appropriate help and support so that he can live an ordinary life without butchering families over a bad hair day? Sure, that can work... for about half a comic run. Then it's right back to the good ole clown prince of crime, because that feeds off of people's sense of nostalgia, and afterall, it's worked for fifty years - why should it stop working now? And it doesn't. But it also trivialises any healthy development the character makes, and it makes Batman look like a fool.
Yet, nonetheless, it is far better for Batman to retain his historic philosophy than to suddenly decide all the bad guys need to die - and this is something which DC at least seems to understand; if Batman well and truly stops being a paragon, then all the young folk who style themselves after him will develop an awful (and, crucially, _unrealistic_ ) perspective on the world. Is it a marketing thing as well? Yes, of course it is. But a hopeful outlook on life is not merely the purview of children, it is at this point in time the most proactive view for anyone in the world to have. Universal pessimism is a short road to developing behaviours harmful to both oneself and others, and it promotes a worldview with exceptionally narrow horizons.
Yeah anyways I'm gonna go for a walk because this much online discussion has me craving grass and sunlight.
The only person with common sense apparently
What happens when you apply logic to life and death. Joker would continue to kill so long as he was living. The only way to stop Joker from killing, from a logical standpoint, is to kill him. This is why as much as I love Bats as a character, Punisher is right. Some criminals have to be put down. Its not enough to put them in prison/asylums when they keep escaping and keep killing.
The sad truth is, Batman was always wrong. If society can't contain people like Joker, you have to have a Red Hood, or Punisher to stop them.
For Batman to accept he is wrong is to accept all the lives he ended by not stopping the joker. Maybe he could’ve at the start of his career but he’s in too deep at this point
If it wasn't Jason it would just have been someone else
wtf bro. I got bricked because of that thing
Batman won in the end. As long as he wasn't the one to do it, he wins.
I never understood batmans "code".
Sometimes by taking a life others can be preserved.
About time, the needs of the many out weight the needs of the few. Never understood why batman would let him keep killing innocents than rather just kill him. I know what i would do :)
The whole Batman/Joker dance is dumb. But it exposes Batman's pathology in an interesting way. I would love to see Batman exposed, and hunted by the law and other so-called crime fighters as an active accomplice in the Joker's murders. I mean, just how many innocent lives have been sacrificed to Batman's 'no killing" code? I don't follow the books as closely as I used to, but has that been done?
The whole point of Joker doing what he does is that if it’s on Batman’s watch,he gets a slap on the wrist and locked up in a place he can get out of whenever he wants.That’s why Joker was scared shitless of the Punisher when he realized that Frank isn’t held back by some bs arbitrary code.Jason did the right thing,if Barbara really wanted to diffuse the situation she could have knocked the Joker out to keep him from taunting and pushing Jason’s buttons
6:53 for being honest? Ypu should be happy he didnt turn the gun on you for seeing you as an enabler of the jokers violence.
how many times joker getting caught, escaped, killing hundreds or thousand of victim and then getting caught again just to escaped again??
is it really because of dubious moral justice or author/publisher doesnt have any new villain material??
If anyone deserves to make the call on killing the Joker, it's someone he literally killed himself. Seems fair to me.
I know this is a bit of a stretch but if the Three Jokers story ever gets animated, I hope we get three iconic Joker VAs voicing them
So Mark Hamill 3 times? 😂
Mark Hamill, Troy Baker and Kevin Michael Richards
@@Ramzeke Lol maybe
@@danielwood6833 If Mark is up for it by then. He says the Joker voice kinda hurts now cause he’s getting old.
But yes, sounds great. And the real Joker, of course, would be voiced by Mark
Mark Hamill said he was done with Joker because it not the same without Kevin Conroy Batman
You don't need to kill the Joker to make him harmless. Just remove his limbs, eyes, and lower jaw, then hook him up to life support.
Then the taxpayers have to pay for the person who murdered their friends and families for the rest of his life. A bullet is a lot cheaper.
I do understand batmans don't kill code
After all he's not judge jury or executioner. However I find it very hard to think that Gotham doesn't have the death penelty by now.
Seeing all these comments talking about this kind of thing, I sometimes think about an interesting new story about a new kind of take on towards Batman and his "One Rule" finally being put into question and being the ultimate test for DC and it's fans that if Batman (and to an extent, the other close Bat Family members) should be truly held accountable to the deaths of all victims of the Joker (and other rogues gallery) that he murdered just because Batman wouldn't kill him when he instead constantly throws him into Arkham Asylum where Joker would easily get out and kill more people.
Though, whenever or not this would either challenge Batman at the risk of his sanity and fear of falling towards the path of being unable to stop himself of killing more people that he could end up killing innocents OR, in a more darker interpretation of how people view Batman's morality, the risk of his ego and pride of only wanting to play cat and mouse with Joker and the other villains while having the thrill of beating up criminals but not killing them. This honestly feels like a new and fresh kind of thing DC should try for once.
Either that or just have Batman mention he's killed the Joker half a dozen times at this point and complain that Hell is even more of a cardboard prison than Arkham is.
Was this Joker the real one in the end?