Flash kicking her with a moon is actually insane. He didn't even make any noise or grunts during the kick, or build up any power into that attack... it was just instantaneous and deadly.
Yes. This is Queen Diana. You could tell based on the type of armor and mentality she has. Especially when she mentioned Emperor Aquaman when she felt betrayed.
“You said you loved someone. But you don’t know what love *is* .What I feel for Linda, Jai and Iris, would shatter *your* heart. Outlive me a *thousand* years and you’ll still never even know what you’re *missing* and that’s *your* truth” That has become one of my favourite Flash quotes
The best thing about delivering a burn while under a truth spell is that the person you're talking to knows you believe every word 100%. No bluster, all heat.
I do disagree he is the most powerful. But I would say Batman Superman wonderwoman the flash and martian manhunter all are serious threats as in each of them if evil could most likely threaten or destroy the league in their own ways. In the justice league the villains are way weaker then the hero.
@@nakedbeefcake4168 No, he's not too far off actually. The Flash is on the power tier list just below Superman. Moving fast enough and with great built-up momentum has let him deliver some real disaster-level damage with his bare hands. And that's not discounting the superhero lottery winning ticket that is at-will time travel.
@@prinzezzqtpi5437 Lol you wrote that like I passionately disagreed with him or something. The Flash is definitely capable of matching or beating Superman.
To add this, Wonder-Woman intended to kill, and Flash had no desire to do such. He wins, holding back and ripping her whole pathetic reasoning while he is under the Lasso of Truth.
This is main flash but not main wonder woman. And this ww is villian so it's obvious for a villian to lose This was villian vs hero fight Flash even used talk no Jutsu lol If it was main flash vs Main wonder woman then we can find out will win Main wonder woman was able defeat justice league in training while she's blindfolded Flash,mm, Batman n Superman using gun all included I know no one was going all out but ww doing all this while blindfolded
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl Batman did that with pure skill alone ( Calling it plot armour is stupid since he fought strategically and there is context to how he won ) and Superman couldn't be taken down by the Justice league + legion of Superheroes COMBINED .
U seriously think Batman will physically able hurt wonder woman? She take punches from beings like Superman and darkseid. Batman capability are all bs whatever he does r all because of bs plot armour that doesn't make any kind of sence, one punch from wonder woman will be enough to send him in coma or kill him
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl there was context of how he was able to win , ignoring the context and calling it plot armour is like saying that Superman beating Darkseid is plot armour or Karate Kid destroying meteors is plot armour
This is a great scene because Flashpoint Diana frequently uses truth as a weapon, often using forced reveals to humiliate and demoralize. That Flash could be compelled to speak truth and spelled out how she was truly the worst version of herself, that hit her far harder than his boot!
Flash is sometimes underestimated because of him only being fast. But they forget the amount of shit they can do with that power and who's wielding that speed.
"What kind of warrior are you running away?" "What kind of warrior are YOU? Having all that power and still using a whole squad trowing flashbangs against a single enemy?"
I wasn't gonna say it, F doesn't need my help here... but yeah, right? for all her pride she had no problem turning the fight against Flash into a 40 man raid.
While he is being compelled to only speak truth. In a far darker world of hypocrits and betrayers, where truth is used as a weapon, Flash spelling out how she is the worst version of herself would hit her far harder than his foot.
So Flash hit Wonder Woman with the kick that had the mass of the moon. But the person who was in charge of Wonder Woman's character that day was a female who took insulting her ability to block moon mass kicks as a gender attack and said it had no effect. She also says that do to Wonder Women's god heritage she gets a free sword attack and shield bash that has counter mass of Jupiter and all it's moons. Further more as seen in section 5 of the comic need hand book on how to defend against rogue writers whom write your character.. Wonder Woman can break the 4th wall and escape. A stand in wonder Woman whom can look nothing like must be used and the kick can happen but must be considered as a friendly gesture... Hardly noticed.. All future moon mass kicks to go through careful and full legal teams to keep people safe. Not to be confused with Jupiter shield bash defense most gods use but are fully aware they can cause major fan out crying. Just because
Agreed not only his speed are a threat but also his intelligence which writers seem to forget, the speed force accelerated his brain function even further. Also as a criminal investigator his detective skills are not too shabby either 😂
@@michaelgarcia5680 The writers are just lazy because e.g. he could phase a kryptonite chunk into supermans chest and the story(injustice) would be over 😂 So they make him trip over rocks 24/7 and thereby make him appear weak for non comic readers
The weirdest thing, that alot of people don't seem to actually take into account, is if this version of Wonder Woman is also a daughter of Zeus, that means she is actually half-sister to the mainstream Wonder Woman, because, while being from a different Universe, she would still be daughter of the same Zeus, as the Gods exist outside of the Multiverse. But usually the writers, it seems, tend to forget that bit of Worldbuilding and Lore.
that just makes things confusing because if you exist outside of the multiverse and you have kids does that mean they to exist outside of it? and with ww clearly not. i dont think gods live outaside of the multiverse i think they all share the same place because there basicly eternal,sort of like darkseid and his multidimensional beeing.
@@Marcustheseer This is cannon and specifically stated DC lore that the God Sphere exists outside of the Multiverse, and is not affected by the various Multiverse reboots. It sounds cool, but it really does make for some messy worldbuilding when the various authors don't really take this into account. And the other Gods are just like Darkseid (as he is a god from the God Sphere) in that they are technically multidimensional beings.
Flashpoint Wonder Woman isn’t from an alternate earth in the multiverse, she’s from an alternate timeline. She is the same Diana as the earth 0 Diana. Actually to be precise, she is the same wonder woman as the pre new 52 version of the character. Still from earth 0. You have the multiverse which contains alternate realities and then you also have hypertime to deal with which contains alternate timelines. Each earth in the multiverse has its own hypertime.
If things operated realistically, the Flash would beat just about anyone. The force of an impact is determined by two things: mass, and velocity. Scientifically, a punch from Superman is only as powerful as it is because his muscles are strong enough to cause his fist to move at an extreme speed, delivering a greater impact than a human could muster, even a human of similar mass. The Flash IS speed. His connection to the speed force removes the limit on one of the two components of force, especially considering that he's not limited to lightspeed. With enough velocity, his fist could hit with the force of a comet. In fact, probably the only reason why that kick didn't cause a nuclear explosion from atoms being pushed into each other at such high speeds is that the speed force alters the laws of physics around its users so that they don't leave a literal trail of destruction in their path.
If flash operated realitiscally he would die from his own infinite mass punch. To every action there is a equal reaction and his body can not take that level of damage.
@Ein Kunde Canonically the speed force allows him to get the best of high speed powers without paying the actual price for it, which is why he usually get hell nerf. Because he could do everything without a rule or a limit and there is no way you could write a good story with that. The only limit they give him is time travel and is a bullshit limit. So Reverse Flash get to altered time the way he like it and even become a time paradox which make him truly inmortal, but Barry can not save his mother without creating flashpoint.
"What kind of warrior are you running away?" Damn WW didnt realize Flash just didnt want to wreck her ass. That kick was so casual for Flash. He didnt even grunt. He just didnt want to make a hole on her head lol
it wasnt even that hard for him. if hed went allout, he would have gotten here within 0 seconds, or even minus seconds but he chose the one that hit hardest
when she's a man hating femi-nazz... I've got no problem seeing her get made into a chump. I think back to early season Family Guy when womens lib stuff comes to mind... "I believe feminism is about CHOICE... I CHOOSE to be a housewife...and now I'm CHOOSING to end this conversation" mind you, I'm a bleeding heart ...but I'd throw bos if a woman told me I had to murder my man because she was done dirty by a dude... I may be "his girl" but I'm still a war machine that can take care of her own damn self!
This is why so many universes go wrong when Flash dies. And why so many universes go wrong when Flash tries to change them. Also, being this incarnation of herself is always lurking in every Diana's mind somewhere - it just found a reason and rationale to come out in this universe.
I love how the comic shows Flash being a prey for Wonderwoman then boom Moon Mass Kick in her head and done. Flash really does suffer from "so the plot can go" syndrome
in THIS instance, it's actually phenomenal writing... when he was roped up, he actually believed he was about to die... and he gave that speech about how he felt that pain he'd mentioned for so long, AND NOW IM GOING TO DIE WITH IT... but he still kept talking, trying to save her too... even though he truly believed it was pointless... and when she froze in that instant, he realized he had an opening, AND HE TOOK IT.
When I first saw flashpoint wonderwoman using that lasso of truth, I always wanted to backfire and for someone to tell her what an ass she is. But it turns out flash delivered and then some!! An interesting battle to be sure!
The only thing that keeps the flash from basically eliminating Wonder Woman at will is his unwillingness to just kill. Plus, plot armor. There’s basically no defense to being able think at the speed he can move. Any stick becomes a video blade He could phase whoever he’s fighting halfway through something, and let them materialize His hands are functionally rail guns with any object he throws. Heck, he could just grab someone, accelerate up to some fantastic speed, and let them go. As an example in this comic, they wrote him stupid - they threw grenades and he just let them go off, instead of putting them into orbit, or returning them to the hands of the throwers.
I wonder if WW first two questions with the lasso should always be "Do you plan on escaping from the rope? And if so, how?" I'm not saying it will always work. Or even that it would have necessarily worked here (Flash is clever after all). But it might have helped her avoid an extended fight on a few occasions.
@@gab5012 which is why asking those questions likely wouldn’t work for the Flash anyways. You’d have to assume that he literally just told you the first plan that came to him in that moment, but when you’re a speedster, every plan is both on the spot and potentially calculated down to each specific detail. They tend to think as fast as they run, after all
I've always thought that if it came down to it Flash could take down Woman Woman as long as he didn't get careless because she's no joke in a serious fight.
@@rory8182 your last sentence is as if WW doesn't naturally have super speed? *No, I'll rephrase that, your comment is actually saying as if WW doesn't naturally have super speed LOL
@@valkyrie1904 you realise that being faster than a normal person and having the speed of literal Gods or the SpeedForce are slightly different things no?
@@valkyrie1904 dumb argument, even if she does possess superhuman speed, the speed of hermes or the speedforce are probably at least times 1000x her regular "superhuman speed"
Whenever Flash loses its because the writers are writing him like he is drunk and or high, same with Superman. Dude should literally be able to make fools of these guys while walking.
Not necessarily much of his rogue's gallery is especially tailored to his powers and wonder woman is almost on par with superman so she can keep up with him even though the flash is more powerful
@@vinaykrishnan4729 nah fam the way flashes speed is described off the charts higher then Superman or wonder woman. Dude should be able To literally dodge light after light already starts to touch him.
@@Eldagusto don't confuse his max speed with his travel speed, flash constantly stops mid fight, to save people stop damage and more and he also can't accelerate instantly to the speed of light, his max speed may be infinite but in a fight he will be continuously stopping and moving causing him to be pretty slow and all it takes is a flick of superman's finger to take him out, superman right now is also at his strongest, being able to keep up with speedsters and new gods themselves so he can definitely keep up with the flash
@@Eldagusto I'm still fond of a bit where he was in a movie theater and felt something brushing the back of his head. Reached up and saw it was a bullet. A gunman had opened fire on the theater and the sound hadn't had time to get to hm. He proceeds to pluck all the bullets out of the air, carry the gunman off to prison, and return to his seat. The man can dodge bullets that have technically already hit him, from complete surprise. He is absolutely low balled every time he loses a fight.
@Ritik Patel u forget the time flash run so fast super man at his top speed was in stopped time like everyone else in earth flash is the embodiment of speed noone in JL can touch him only if it's sum super braindead form of supes or something
It's always fun when people who can move at the speed of light just watch as someone throws some unknown weapon at them. Watching them lazily fly towards them, wondering what they could possibly be, never thinking to just MOVE out of the way.
What I like about most of these different storylines is they give everyone a chance to show that each member of the justice league can take on the whole rest of them like it was nothing.
It's funny how author needs to constantly make the DC heroes hold back because if they didn't then 95% of the time they would instantly win, yet they keep making Batman more and more OP for the sole reason that he's bringing in more money than anyone else in DC.
Not really nowadays batman is pretty barebones, he's lost his wealth and operates out of a humble brownstone, just relying on his skills and whatever tech he can make or has, also most comic book characters are written like that and not just DC, thor, silver surfer, Franklin Richards, phoenix, king in black venom, sentry and more are examples
@@vinaykrishnan4729 I know, but from the New 52 up to Dark Knight Death Metal, it was a big issue (plus they also have a habit of giving much more comics to Batman than to any other hero).
@@bosskaiju4834 yeah but nowadays it's much more manageable, in rebirth he didn't actually have as many as you think he had 2 mainline comics and 2 limited series, same with Superman, now he has more but in rebirth he only had these ones
Flash SHOULD be the most powerful character in DC. Speed > Strength, and his speed - even if it's just 1% faster than Superman - would still be absurdly faster than the Man of Steel.
Speed Force Users should be more powerful then everyone except Green Martians, Kryptonians, And High Level Magical Users as well as some Cosmic, Toon Force, And Reality Warpers yeah.
It's stories like this that really make me hate Wonder Woman. Just like in her Injustice prologue comics; she becomes evil simply because of a bad relationship.
@@vinaykrishnan4729 did you seriously just say that he cheated on her with his own wife 🙄? He cheated on his wife with Wonder Woman and when Mera found out about it, she died trying to kill Wonder Woman for it. Which led to war between the amazons and atlantians.
"Outlive me a thousand years and you’ll still never even know what you’re missing. And that’s your truth." Wow. Wow. That's a great comeback right there.
Fernando, that was a pretty nice touch posting the comments in your video. I've seen some Mixed Martial Arts channels and Mugen channels do it just before the video starts or at the very end, and I always thought it was pretty neat.
@@michaelgarcia5680 she really had one thing over this one though, iirc... she actually did kinda LOVE Clark, even if she was manipulative as all hell.
Is it just me, or does that whole "death to all men" thing happen WAAAAAAY too much with Wonder Woman? Seriously it took nuking Metropolis, being tricked into killing his pregnant wife, and constantly being called a monster for killing the JOKER for Superman to finally snap. Diana? She was betrayed by Aquaman due to something that she had NO BUSINESS IN, and suddenly all men are to blame. Fucking She-Hulk Syndrome I tell ya hwat.
on like 90% of levels, yeah... but if we focus on the romantic element, she at least did LOVE Clark, right? manipulated the hell out of him sure, but the feelings were legit.
Not really, I did the math, and if flash's leg is 10 kg or something, the relativistic mass would be around 11 kg given his leg is moving at half the speed of light.
Some WW simp on copium : Diana crush's flash's balls flash : I'll hit diana's skull at half the speed of light with the relativistic mass of a small moon before she can do any of that and add on some emotional damage too.
I'm just annoyed with the choice of weapon for wonder woman. It's a saber yes. However, the way the hilt is made doesn't make it Ideal for two handed wielding.
Man, I hate these kind of characters where they have one bad experience and they end up genociding people. I understand some people obtain biases through bad experiences but you have to already be a specific kind of crazy to behave this way
he got killed by "BAD WRITING" he metabolizes crap so quickly that he wouldn't have been THAT affected by the gas... let alone that he'd have had PROVERBIAL HOURS to leave from the time it STARTED to affect him, to the point where he was seeing full blown hallucinations...
This is all just a mockery, she does not possess the full speed of Hermes him self to even keep up with flash, it was just him holding back. Honestly and it wasn’t needed to kill her, he could phase her heart out since she dont know love❤
Do writers not know that wonder women only has above human reflexes and isn't a speedster, at least a superman has some excuse but flash would literally be seeing her in extreme slow motion
she says the line "i take it your wonder woman was not blessed with the speed of hermes" so we can infer that this version infact was blessed with super speed not flash level but yk still pretty good
@@MGrey-qb5xz Hermes is a LITERAL GOD... so... "comes close" yes.. but obviously ITS NOT ENOUGH TO KEEP UP ON EQUAL FOOTING... he was slowing down to do things like "not break through a wall" which she just chose to do to keep up,... even with him BEING CAREFUL AND BEING SLOW... "The speed of Hermes" was just able to keep up GOING ALL OUT... so again, THE SPEED OF A GOD is clearly really damn fast... but THE LITERAL ESSENCE OF SPEED is obviously faster.
@@abigails4088 lol the only greeky that can best Superman even is Zeus, this status means nothing to actual powerhouses unless you are talking New Gods.
"ain't that a kick in the head" heh... I bloody LOVE you... reminds me, I gotta go finish my replay of NV... I swear I'm gonna save you this time, Dean Domino!!!
I was thinking in Cell from TFS actually but yeah, you should 120% replay NV, but saving dean at the expense of playing like an idiot that he can control is not my style, i don't like playing the fool for a ghoulified singer gone to less.
@@liomurasaki my first time through he was literally the only one I couldn't save... XD plus I'm a bit of a sucker for Dean Martin so I'm totally crushing on his ghoulified clone
people be saying that superman is equal to in speed and can easily beat flash, but no-one be considering that that's wally flash. barry flash already pretty much beats normal superman, but allow me to repeat. thats wally flash.
Doesn't matter who beats who .....they introduced Barry because Wally was overpowered and it was getting boring....Barry Allen will always the true Flash
@@Redwolf12347 nope Barry is the true Flash and Wally is copycat including his dress,job ,love interest everything is just like Barry,he shouldn't have been existed
@@dynamo429 you're just a stupid Barry Allen fanboy, wally was never a scientist Florence in the comics, Wally and Linda weren't even planned to be together originally, it was waid's idea,Barry isn't even the first flash
@@dynamo429 you're just a stupid Barry Allen fanboy, wally was never a scientist Florence in the comics, Wally and Linda weren't even planned to be together originally, it was waid's idea,Barry isn't even the first flash
Dude even people underestimate Spider-Man when the dude literally knocks out the Hulk and also fights with the rest of The Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic Four same goes to people underestimate the Flash which is stupid.. What is the point of superspeed if you're not gonna use it. CW or Hollywood Nerf The Flash so hard i wish we get an accurate Flash this time and Spider-Man also.
Spider-Man, The Flash, Superman, and several others are consistently shown to be weaker than their base stats and attributes. Meanwhile Batman, and basically any regular human is consistently shown to far surpass their base stats and attributes.
Shouldn't that kick also break Barry's leg tho? I know he has superfast healing too but in these comics they always make it seem like his legs are made of adamantium
No, he isn't just some weak human with high speeds. He wouldn't even be able to run if he didn't have that crazy durability. All that force he uses to run would've messed him up already.
@@JungleToes But then if he is that durable how is it that we often see Speedsters getting shot by normal bullets? Or even just stabbed by some metal weapons which's toughness i'm pretty sure should not be equivalent to a "half the speed of light" force.... Flash's or more like DC heroes' powerscaling is so fkin inconsistent
@yelllowjacket1756 Yeah it's inconsistent, but I'm guessing they still get hurt by bullets and sharp objects cause it's not blunt like a punch or something like that.
@Ein Kunde no he wouldnt the writers accounted for all of that he basically has a speed force bubble around him that basically just lets him forego the negative aspects of super speed that would happen due to well physics
Being the fastest man in existence is the most broken ability in DC, I feel like if Wally didn’t hold back and bloodlusted, he would be unbeatable. In my opinion. (Have to throw that in there so I don’t get jumped by superman fans)
Flash kicking her with a moon is actually insane. He didn't even make any noise or grunts during the kick, or build up any power into that attack... it was just instantaneous and deadly.
He didn't kick her with a moon. His kick had relative mass of the moon due to him accelerating it to half the speed of light.
@Alex Mercer in essence, kicking her with a moon.
@@THETRIVIALTHINGS I think he knows that alex
@@LegitChipmmunk1002 Does he? He still replied that it's the same as being hit by the moon. Which is not accurate.
@@THETRIVIALTHINGS if its relatively the same mass theres nothing wrong with saying it that way, stop being a nerd
Is this the Flashpoint version of Wonder Woman? If so then I don’t think anybody is gonna mind seeing her lose.
Yes. This is Queen Diana. You could tell based on the type of armor and mentality she has. Especially when she mentioned Emperor Aquaman when she felt betrayed.
Personally, it doesn’t matter to me what version they are; If they pull that kinda sh!t then good riddance
why does it have to be Flashpoint for it to be okay?
@@MixerHaven1975 Because Flashpoint Wonder Woman is not liked very much
@@MixerHaven1975 because Flashpoint Wonder Woman is just below Injustice Wonder Woman when it comes to being evil.
“You said you loved someone. But you don’t know what love *is* .What I feel for Linda, Jai and Iris, would shatter *your* heart. Outlive me a *thousand* years and you’ll still never even know what you’re *missing* and that’s *your* truth”
That has become one of my favourite Flash quotes
The best thing about delivering a burn while under a truth spell is that the person you're talking to knows you believe every word 100%. No bluster, all heat.
I love Wally.
@@tilly4273 it's like getting hit with a "go fuck yourself, you shit person." from a god of truth to her.
I do disagree he is the most powerful. But I would say Batman Superman wonderwoman the flash and martian manhunter all are serious threats as in each of them if evil could most likely threaten or destroy the league in their own ways. In the justice league the villains are way weaker then the hero.
It does hit hard👏🏿👏🏿
such a great scene. Flash holds back so hard until he absolutely needs to. That kick wasnt even a fraction of what he can do if hes truly desperate
@@nakedbeefcake4168 No, he's not too far off actually. The Flash is on the power tier list just below Superman. Moving fast enough and with great built-up momentum has let him deliver some real disaster-level damage with his bare hands. And that's not discounting the superhero lottery winning ticket that is at-will time travel.
@@prinzezzqtpi5437 Lol you wrote that like I passionately disagreed with him or something. The Flash is definitely capable of matching or beating Superman.
@@nakedbeefcake4168 Yep. One of the reasons why one of the most powerful forms of Superman, Superman Prime, hates the Flash family
And that was while laying on his back ! Imagine half a dozen punches at that speed.
@NakedBeefcake depends who writes it
To add this, Wonder-Woman intended to kill, and Flash had no desire to do such. He wins, holding back and ripping her whole pathetic reasoning while he is under the Lasso of Truth.
This is main flash but not main wonder woman.
And this ww is villian so it's obvious for a villian to lose
This was villian vs hero fight
Flash even used talk no Jutsu lol
If it was main flash vs Main wonder woman then we can find out will win
Main wonder woman was able defeat justice league in training while she's blindfolded
Flash,mm, Batman n Superman using gun all included
I know no one was going all out but ww doing all this while blindfolded
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl Batman did that with pure skill alone ( Calling it plot armour is stupid since he fought strategically and there is context to how he won ) and Superman couldn't be taken down by the Justice league + legion of Superheroes COMBINED .
U seriously think Batman will physically able hurt wonder woman?
She take punches from beings like Superman and darkseid.
Batman capability are all bs whatever he does r all because of bs plot armour that doesn't make any kind of sence, one punch from wonder woman will be enough to send him in coma or kill him
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl there was context of how he was able to win , ignoring the context and calling it plot armour is like saying that Superman beating Darkseid is plot armour or Karate Kid destroying meteors is plot armour
This is a great scene because Flashpoint Diana frequently uses truth as a weapon, often using forced reveals to humiliate and demoralize. That Flash could be compelled to speak truth and spelled out how she was truly the worst version of herself, that hit her far harder than his boot!
Flash is sometimes underestimated because of him only being fast. But they forget the amount of shit they can do with that power and who's wielding that speed.
No kidding. Reminds me of the time Flash literally picked Lex & Brainiac apart atom by atom when they merged.
Right, not even just the speed, but what the speedforce allows him to do.
He's a seasonal superhero tho XD.
@@blank4142 exactly, yes you can do a bunch of things with speed alone but the speedforce itself gives him other powers too
Captain Atom Nerfed Underrated
"What kind of warrior are you running away?"
"What kind of warrior are YOU? Having all that power and still using a whole squad trowing flashbangs against a single enemy?"
I wasn't gonna say it, F doesn't need my help here...
but yeah, right? for all her pride she had no problem turning the fight against Flash into a 40 man raid.
Wally West out here being like "If I were in the Flashpoint story, there wouldn't have even been a conflict."
Flash quite literally owned her with facts and logic.
While he is being compelled to only speak truth. In a far darker world of hypocrits and betrayers, where truth is used as a weapon, Flash spelling out how she is the worst version of herself would hit her far harder than his foot.
He shore did
So Flash hit Wonder Woman with the kick that had the mass of the moon.
But the person who was in charge of Wonder Woman's character that day was a female who took insulting her ability to block moon mass kicks as a gender attack and said it had no effect.
She also says that do to Wonder Women's god heritage she gets a free sword attack and shield bash that has counter mass of Jupiter and all it's moons.
Further more as seen in section 5 of the comic need hand book on how to defend against rogue writers whom write your character..
Wonder Woman can break the 4th wall and escape.
A stand in wonder Woman whom can look nothing like must be used and the kick can happen but must be considered as a friendly gesture...
Hardly noticed..
All future moon mass kicks to go through careful and full legal teams to keep people safe.
Not to be confused with Jupiter shield bash defense most gods use but are fully aware they can cause major fan out crying.
Just because
People really underestimate how powerful and capable the flash is.
Underestimate? People claim he could take down the whole league lmao.
@@michaelgarcia5680 cuz he probably could
Agreed not only his speed are a threat but also his intelligence which writers seem to forget, the speed force accelerated his brain function even further. Also as a criminal investigator his detective skills are not too shabby either 😂
@@michaelgarcia5680 The writers are just lazy because e.g. he could phase a kryptonite chunk into supermans chest and the story(injustice) would be over 😂 So they make him trip over rocks 24/7 and thereby make him appear weak for non comic readers
@@michaelgarcia5680If he was going all out and fighting smart, he absolutely and easily would.
The weirdest thing, that alot of people don't seem to actually take into account, is if this version of Wonder Woman is also a daughter of Zeus, that means she is actually half-sister to the mainstream Wonder Woman, because, while being from a different Universe, she would still be daughter of the same Zeus, as the Gods exist outside of the Multiverse. But usually the writers, it seems, tend to forget that bit of Worldbuilding and Lore.
that just makes things confusing because if you exist outside of the multiverse and you have kids does that mean they to exist outside of it? and with ww clearly not.
i dont think gods live outaside of the multiverse i think they all share the same place because there basicly eternal,sort of like darkseid and his multidimensional beeing.
@@Marcustheseer This is cannon and specifically stated DC lore that the God Sphere exists outside of the Multiverse, and is not affected by the various Multiverse reboots. It sounds cool, but it really does make for some messy worldbuilding when the various authors don't really take this into account. And the other Gods are just like Darkseid (as he is a god from the God Sphere) in that they are technically multidimensional beings.
Flashpoint Wonder Woman isn’t from an alternate earth in the multiverse, she’s from an alternate timeline. She is the same Diana as the earth 0 Diana. Actually to be precise, she is the same wonder woman as the pre new 52 version of the character. Still from earth 0. You have the multiverse which contains alternate realities and then you also have hypertime to deal with which contains alternate timelines. Each earth in the multiverse has its own hypertime.
The moment you can turn intangible is the moment you already have a big advantage against powerhouses
Flash, Spider-Man & Iceman are three heroes. I can’t define because, they hold back way too much.
If things operated realistically, the Flash would beat just about anyone. The force of an impact is determined by two things: mass, and velocity. Scientifically, a punch from Superman is only as powerful as it is because his muscles are strong enough to cause his fist to move at an extreme speed, delivering a greater impact than a human could muster, even a human of similar mass. The Flash IS speed. His connection to the speed force removes the limit on one of the two components of force, especially considering that he's not limited to lightspeed. With enough velocity, his fist could hit with the force of a comet. In fact, probably the only reason why that kick didn't cause a nuclear explosion from atoms being pushed into each other at such high speeds is that the speed force alters the laws of physics around its users so that they don't leave a literal trail of destruction in their path.
if things operated realistically there wouldn’t be a man dressing a bat fighting crime and an alien superhero scared of green rocks.. enjoy the comic
@@kye1814 ... What made you think he wasn't enjoying the comic?
If flash operated realitiscally he would die from his own infinite mass punch. To every action there is a equal reaction and his body can not take that level of damage.
@Ein Kunde Canonically the speed force allows him to get the best of high speed powers without paying the actual price for it, which is why he usually get hell nerf. Because he could do everything without a rule or a limit and there is no way you could write a good story with that. The only limit they give him is time travel and is a bullshit limit. So Reverse Flash get to altered time the way he like it and even become a time paradox which make him truly inmortal, but Barry can not save his mother without creating flashpoint.
yet he struggles fighting with Captain Cold lol
stop thinking that Flash is invincible
"What kind of warrior are you running away?" Damn WW didnt realize Flash just didnt want to wreck her ass. That kick was so casual for Flash. He didnt even grunt. He just didnt want to make a hole on her head lol
When a hero has something to fight for they aren't going to fall or lose to the villians they are going to win.
it wasnt even that hard for him. if hed went allout, he would have gotten here within 0 seconds, or even minus seconds but he chose the one that hit hardest
For whatever reason, many absolutely HATE seeing WW lose a fight. WW's a bad*ss, but her taking an L shouldn't be out of the question.
when she's a man hating femi-nazz... I've got no problem seeing her get made into a chump. I think back to early season Family Guy when womens lib stuff comes to mind...
"I believe feminism is about CHOICE... I CHOOSE to be a housewife...and now I'm CHOOSING to end this conversation"
mind you, I'm a bleeding heart ...but I'd throw bos if a woman told me I had to murder my man because she was done dirty by a dude... I may be "his girl" but I'm still a war machine that can take care of her own damn self!
This is why so many universes go wrong when Flash dies. And why so many universes go wrong when Flash tries to change them. Also, being this incarnation of herself is always lurking in every Diana's mind somewhere - it just found a reason and rationale to come out in this universe.
These other Universes prove Joker is right. "All it takes, is one bad day"
Ah, the good old reverse bondage! Never change DC, never change.
It was her canon weakness back in the day ! 😅😅
I love how the comic shows Flash being a prey for Wonderwoman then boom Moon Mass Kick in her head and done. Flash really does suffer from "so the plot can go" syndrome
in THIS instance, it's actually phenomenal writing...
when he was roped up, he actually believed he was about to die... and he gave that speech about how he felt that pain he'd mentioned for so long, AND NOW IM GOING TO DIE WITH IT...
but he still kept talking, trying to save her too... even though he truly believed it was pointless... and when she froze in that instant, he realized he had an opening, AND HE TOOK IT.
When I first saw flashpoint wonderwoman using that lasso of truth, I always wanted to backfire and for someone to tell her what an ass she is. But it turns out flash delivered and then some!! An interesting battle to be sure!
Those words were sharp !!
The only thing that keeps the flash from basically eliminating Wonder Woman at will is his unwillingness to just kill. Plus, plot armor.
There’s basically no defense to being able think at the speed he can move. Any stick becomes a video blade
He could phase whoever he’s fighting halfway through something, and let them materialize
His hands are functionally rail guns with any object he throws.
Heck, he could just grab someone, accelerate up to some fantastic speed, and let them go.
As an example in this comic, they wrote him stupid - they threw grenades and he just let them go off, instead of putting them into orbit, or returning them to the hands of the throwers.
I wonder if WW first two questions with the lasso should always be "Do you plan on escaping from the rope? And if so, how?" I'm not saying it will always work. Or even that it would have necessarily worked here (Flash is clever after all). But it might have helped her avoid an extended fight on a few occasions.
I feel like flash didn’t plan that he just came up with it on the spot
@@gab5012 I agree. Certainly his style.
@@gab5012 which is why asking those questions likely wouldn’t work for the Flash anyways. You’d have to assume that he literally just told you the first plan that came to him in that moment, but when you’re a speedster, every plan is both on the spot and potentially calculated down to each specific detail. They tend to think as fast as they run, after all
Flash: ** 😊
Flash explains the plan superfast...
The Flash is stupidly underrated
I've always thought that if it came down to it Flash could take down Woman Woman as long as he didn't get careless because she's no joke in a serious fight.
normal wonderwoman would get floored by flash, this one only stood a chance due to the speed of hermes
@@rory8182 your last sentence is as if WW doesn't naturally have super speed?
*No, I'll rephrase that, your comment is actually saying as if WW doesn't naturally have super speed LOL
@@valkyrie1904 you realise that being faster than a normal person and having the speed of literal Gods or the SpeedForce are slightly different things no?
@@rory8182 you speak of nonsense. WW naturally possesses superhuman speed, a fact which clearly doesn't appear to you.
@@valkyrie1904 dumb argument, even if she does possess superhuman speed, the speed of hermes or the speedforce are probably at least times 1000x her regular "superhuman speed"
The Flash is nothing to be played with when he gets serious.
Now imagine if the flash fought at his speed while using variations of shit like Muay Thai or Krav Maga
Wing Chun flash 🫡🔥🔥
bruce lee 1" punch at max speed *sends dude into another universe*
@Pap DM that would obliterate people
The flash was holding back and still outran the speed of Hermes
That roasting was just adding salty lemon insults to the neck breaking injury
Arrogant Dianna getting wrecked is one of my favorite things in comics
This pretty good as the flash was seriously holding back.Any part of him that can move can potentially destroy a city.
Whenever Flash loses its because the writers are writing him like he is drunk and or high, same with Superman. Dude should literally be able to make fools of these guys while walking.
Not necessarily much of his rogue's gallery is especially tailored to his powers and wonder woman is almost on par with superman so she can keep up with him even though the flash is more powerful
@@vinaykrishnan4729 nah fam the way flashes speed is described off the charts higher then Superman or wonder woman. Dude should be able
To literally dodge light after light already starts to touch him.
@@Eldagusto don't confuse his max speed with his travel speed, flash constantly stops mid fight, to save people stop damage and more and he also can't accelerate instantly to the speed of light, his max speed may be infinite but in a fight he will be continuously stopping and moving causing him to be pretty slow and all it takes is a flick of superman's finger to take him out, superman right now is also at his strongest, being able to keep up with speedsters and new gods themselves so he can definitely keep up with the flash
@@Eldagusto I'm still fond of a bit where he was in a movie theater and felt something brushing the back of his head. Reached up and saw it was a bullet. A gunman had opened fire on the theater and the sound hadn't had time to get to hm. He proceeds to pluck all the bullets out of the air, carry the gunman off to prison, and return to his seat.
The man can dodge bullets that have technically already hit him, from complete surprise. He is absolutely low balled every time he loses a fight.
@Ritik Patel u forget the time flash run so fast super man at his top speed was in stopped time like everyone else in earth flash is the embodiment of speed noone in JL can touch him only if it's sum super braindead form of supes or something
Wow Flash holds back this much power he was only going half of light speed 😮 imagine how hard he would hit her if he moved faster than light speed.
He did not hold back at all. His life and his kids life was on the line. NO WAY he going to hold back. What for? So they can die!?!
if he hit at the speed of light it would have been infinite mass.
Half the speed, and he was holding back. Wally would have just got it done @zacharybaker770
It's always fun when people who can move at the speed of light just watch as someone throws some unknown weapon at them. Watching them lazily fly towards them, wondering what they could possibly be, never thinking to just MOVE out of the way.
Wonder Woman keeps getting tied up.
What I like about most of these different storylines is they give everyone a chance to show that each member of the justice league can take on the whole rest of them like it was nothing.
Among the reasons why The Flash is still among my favourites.
Dam i haven't heard this music in a while lol taking me back to high school.
the flash was disappointed never make the flash disappointed
Lol lasso just went off on her
Just
"You a bitch and he got proof"
Poor, Wally and his family. Always getting ripped apart by the writers just like Spider-man.
"All these universe and you're the worst Diana in any of them..."
Injustice Wonder Woman : Am I joke to you?
at least she seemed to LOVE Clark, even if she manipulated the hell out of him...
This video seems accurate to the Flash vs Wonder Woman poll
And thus being bound by a man, makes her powerless.
huh... I think that's a lot of women's "weakness"
wakka wakka
:3
This is just 0.1% of what the flash is capable of when the writers dont nerf him
It's funny how author needs to constantly make the DC heroes hold back because if they didn't then 95% of the time they would instantly win, yet they keep making Batman more and more OP for the sole reason that he's bringing in more money than anyone else in DC.
Not really nowadays batman is pretty barebones, he's lost his wealth and operates out of a humble brownstone, just relying on his skills and whatever tech he can make or has, also most comic book characters are written like that and not just DC, thor, silver surfer, Franklin Richards, phoenix, king in black venom, sentry and more are examples
@@vinaykrishnan4729 I know, but from the New 52 up to Dark Knight Death Metal, it was a big issue (plus they also have a habit of giving much more comics to Batman than to any other hero).
@@vinaykrishnan4729 "He's bringing in more money" to DC, not to himself.
@@bosskaiju4834 yeah but nowadays it's much more manageable, in rebirth he didn't actually have as many as you think he had 2 mainline comics and 2 limited series, same with Superman, now he has more but in rebirth he only had these ones
@@Icemario87 i was talking about the fact that he is OP not about his monetary worth to the company
And yet people will still try to act like the Flash couldn't speed blitz Superman.
Aizen standing there seeing that everything is part of his plan
That theme go hard!
And the greater will too
The bleach and Naruto OST is underrated
“Diana crushes his balls”
Flash SHOULD be the most powerful character in DC. Speed > Strength, and his speed - even if it's just 1% faster than Superman - would still be absurdly faster than the Man of Steel.
😂
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt hes right tho
Yo bro she got her skull ROCKED!
Speed Force Users should be more powerful then everyone except Green Martians, Kryptonians, And High Level Magical Users as well as some Cosmic, Toon Force, And Reality Warpers yeah.
Flash will punish the spirit out of Diana using full force
He can phase through her every move
It's stories like this that really make me hate Wonder Woman. Just like in her Injustice prologue comics; she becomes evil simply because of a bad relationship.
Aquaman cheated on her with mera as far as I can remember, so adequate motivation
@@vinaykrishnan4729 did you seriously just say that he cheated on her with his own wife 🙄? He cheated on his wife with Wonder Woman and when Mera found out about it, she died trying to kill Wonder Woman for it. Which led to war between the amazons and atlantians.
@@jillgrimwater3726 sorry dude i don't really remember flashpoint that well, no need to be heated up
@@vinaykrishnan4729 it's okay, sorry if I came off that. I was mostly just confused why you thought what you did 😅.
@@jillgrimwater3726 He's an idiot. Even if Wonder Woman was Aquaman's wife, having sex with Mera should not result in a policy of death to all males.
Just a taste of the infinite mass punch
"Outlive me a thousand years and you’ll still never even know what you’re missing. And that’s your truth."
Wow. Wow. That's a great comeback right there.
Fernando, that was a pretty nice touch posting the comments in your video. I've seen some Mixed Martial Arts channels and Mugen channels do it just before the video starts or at the very end, and I always thought it was pretty neat.
Thank you bro ! I plan to keep doing that man, kind of a little way to interact closer with the polls ! Appreciate you bro.
If you combine Flashpoint WW and Injustice WW you basically get Satan lol
You mean injustice ww
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt you can’t get much worse than injustice WW honestly.
@@michaelgarcia5680 she really had one thing over this one though, iirc...
she actually did kinda LOVE Clark, even if she was manipulative as all hell.
YOU CANT JUST PUT ELDEN RING IN A FLASH COMIC LIKE THAT I WAS HAVING GOOSEBUMPS
Wally don't play.
Flashpoint Superman has also defeated Wonder Woman and Aquaman simultanously.
Flashpoint superman was killed?
@@brandorandobrandoooono he wasn’t lmao he was trapped with red sun in a government facility
@@HopeArrived he was killed by Batman.
@@brandorandobrandoooo no he wasn’t lmao flashpoint Batman was Thomas Wayne
@@HopeArrivedFlashpoint Superman did die but the animated Flashpoint movie had him live.
Fun fact, wonder woman's weakness is bondage from a man using her lasso.
Is it just me, or does that whole "death to all men" thing happen WAAAAAAY too much with Wonder Woman?
Seriously it took nuking Metropolis, being tricked into killing his pregnant wife, and constantly being called a monster for killing the JOKER for Superman to finally snap. Diana? She was betrayed by Aquaman due to something that she had NO BUSINESS IN, and suddenly all men are to blame. Fucking She-Hulk Syndrome I tell ya hwat.
God the bleach ost in the background is so good for this
TELL HER WALLY 3:27
although Injustice WW could even be worse lol
on like 90% of levels, yeah... but if we focus on the romantic element, she at least did LOVE Clark, right? manipulated the hell out of him sure, but the feelings were legit.
Also it was a nice touch to see you put comments at the end of the vid. Are you gonna make vids about the Tournament as it goes on?
Yes sir ! I plan to keep posting some comments from the tournament at the end !
Did my man Flash said that he kick wonder woman's skull with the exact force which the whole moon can create or is it my imagination?
Not exactly the best phrasing, but I got the gist and the answer is yes :)
Not really, I did the math, and if flash's leg is 10 kg or something, the relativistic mass would be around 11 kg given his leg is moving at half the speed of light.
@@thelosttomato4020 I very much doubt that
@@kelmirosue3251 You doubt math?
@@thelosttomato4020 No I'm talking about you actually calculating it. Hard to believe that
What an unfortunate double edge sword the Lasso of Truth can be to Diana. Compels you to tell the truth, doesn't repel brutal honesty. 😅😂
Some of these convergence stories were really fun!
I want nothing more then man Wonder Woman to have a conversation/fight with flashpoint Wonder Woman.
Even if wonder woman had killed him that burn with the lasso of truth is the real victory
Wonder Woman getting defeated by her own Lasso Counter: 68+1
Some WW simp on copium : Diana crush's flash's balls
flash : I'll hit diana's skull at half the speed of light with the relativistic mass of a small moon before she can do any of that and add on some emotional damage too.
I'm just annoyed with the choice of weapon for wonder woman. It's a saber yes. However, the way the hilt is made doesn't make it Ideal for two handed wielding.
uuullgchhh🙄
I knew somethign about the way it looked was off, but I couldn't bloody place what it was >.>
Nobody can stop flash
Man, I hate these kind of characters where they have one bad experience and they end up genociding people. I understand some people obtain biases through bad experiences but you have to already be a specific kind of crazy to behave this way
“It was me Berry”
Diana is a magnificent warrior no matter the universe, but the Flash has everything he needs to take her, or almost anyone else, down.
I lol'd when I heard the Elden Ring song lmao
And then he gets killed by a sawblade in the injustice movie 🤷♂️
he got killed by "BAD WRITING"
he metabolizes crap so quickly that he wouldn't have been THAT affected by the gas... let alone that he'd have had PROVERBIAL HOURS to leave from the time it STARTED to affect him, to the point where he was seeing full blown hallucinations...
@@abigails4088 haha exactly but I guess I'd you don't put him off the field a movie like that can't happen
This version of Wonder Woman deserves a hentai treatment.
not only the Elden Ring opening theme but then the Invasion theme from Bleach?!?!?! lovely BGM selections!
Alternative title:
Speedy boi teaches sexist humility
This Flash is Wally West btw
This is all just a mockery, she does not possess the full speed of Hermes him self to even keep up with flash, it was just him holding back. Honestly and it wasn’t needed to kill her, he could phase her heart out since she dont know love❤
That background bleach music fits so well
GOD I LOVE EQUALITY!!!!
I really wanna see main Wonder Woman meet flashpoint Wonder Woman
The Scarlet speedster. Elden ring boss health bar
Do writers not know that wonder women only has above human reflexes and isn't a speedster, at least a superman has some excuse but flash would literally be seeing her in extreme slow motion
she says the line "i take it your wonder woman was not blessed with the speed of hermes"
so we can infer that this version infact was blessed with super speed
not flash level but yk still pretty good
@@be7256 pis freaking writing from dc writers like that would even comes close to the flash tier
@@MGrey-qb5xz Hermes is a LITERAL GOD... so... "comes close" yes.. but obviously ITS NOT ENOUGH TO KEEP UP ON EQUAL FOOTING...
he was slowing down to do things like "not break through a wall" which she just chose to do to keep up,... even with him BEING CAREFUL AND BEING SLOW...
"The speed of Hermes" was just able to keep up GOING ALL OUT...
so again, THE SPEED OF A GOD is clearly really damn fast... but THE LITERAL ESSENCE OF SPEED is obviously faster.
@@abigails4088 lol the only greeky that can best Superman even is Zeus, this status means nothing to actual powerhouses unless you are talking New Gods.
Heh, ain't that a kick in the head... More like the great dying but concentrated in Diana's nape
"ain't that a kick in the head"
heh... I bloody LOVE you... reminds me, I gotta go finish my replay of NV... I swear I'm gonna save you this time, Dean Domino!!!
I was thinking in Cell from TFS actually but yeah, you should 120% replay NV, but saving dean at the expense of playing like an idiot that he can control is not my style, i don't like playing the fool for a ghoulified singer gone to less.
@@liomurasaki my first time through he was literally the only one I couldn't save...
XD
plus I'm a bit of a sucker for Dean Martin so I'm totally crushing on his ghoulified clone
The elden ring music is reall doing it for me lmao
people be saying that superman is equal to in speed and can easily beat flash, but no-one be considering that that's wally flash. barry flash already pretty much beats normal superman, but allow me to repeat. thats wally flash.
Doesn't matter who beats who .....they introduced Barry because Wally was overpowered and it was getting boring....Barry Allen will always the true Flash
@@dynamo429true flash has been dead for over 20 years, both are good flashes
@@Redwolf12347 nope Barry is the true Flash and Wally is copycat including his dress,job ,love interest everything is just like Barry,he shouldn't have been existed
@@dynamo429 you're just a stupid Barry Allen fanboy, wally was never a scientist Florence in the comics, Wally and Linda weren't even planned to be together originally, it was waid's idea,Barry isn't even the first flash
@@dynamo429 you're just a stupid Barry Allen fanboy, wally was never a scientist Florence in the comics, Wally and Linda weren't even planned to be together originally, it was waid's idea,Barry isn't even the first flash
Dude even people underestimate Spider-Man when the dude literally knocks out the Hulk and also fights with the rest of The Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic Four same goes to people underestimate the Flash which is stupid.. What is the point of superspeed if you're not gonna use it. CW or Hollywood Nerf The Flash so hard i wish we get an accurate Flash this time and Spider-Man also.
Spider-Man, The Flash, Superman, and several others are consistently shown to be weaker than their base stats and attributes.
Meanwhile Batman, and basically any regular human is consistently shown to far surpass their base stats and attributes.
Shouldn't that kick also break Barry's leg tho? I know he has superfast healing too but in these comics they always make it seem like his legs are made of adamantium
No, he isn't just some weak human with high speeds. He wouldn't even be able to run if he didn't have that crazy durability. All that force he uses to run would've messed him up already.
This is Wally West, not Barry.
@@JungleToes But then if he is that durable how is it that we often see Speedsters getting shot by normal bullets? Or even just stabbed by some metal weapons which's toughness i'm pretty sure should not be equivalent to a "half the speed of light" force....
Flash's or more like DC heroes' powerscaling is so fkin inconsistent
@yelllowjacket1756 Yeah it's inconsistent, but I'm guessing they still get hurt by bullets and sharp objects cause it's not blunt like a punch or something like that.
@Ein Kunde no he wouldnt
the writers accounted for all of that
he basically has a speed force bubble around him that basically just lets him forego the negative aspects of super speed that would happen due to
well physics
Good music timing.
Flash is right. Even Injustice Wonder Woman and Lady Wonder Woman never stooped to her level...
As far as I know
Being the fastest man in existence is the most broken ability in DC, I feel like if Wally didn’t hold back and bloodlusted, he would be unbeatable.
In my opinion. (Have to throw that in there so I don’t get jumped by superman fans)
It's inevitable Mr. Martin. They're coming, and they're angry. You have limited time to run.
@@SoldierMan755 tell my family I did my best and I love them. On my tombstone write F**k superman
Martian Manhunter stopped a bloodlusted Flash
@@grandcanyon-pg2px is there a part of you that thinks Flash was going all out, if we was stopped by MM?
@@willmartin4430 it's in the comic....
When aizen music came on chill 😂😂😂