10 Sparking Zero WHAT IFS That We NEED To See
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what if "Sparking Zero gets betrayed and locked in the hyperbolic time chamber" - classic dbz fanfic
Sparking zero is my favourite anime character in chinese animation
Facts i never understood the “betrayed” part tho
It would break free and wipe out every other anime game
Technically, split-screen multiplayer did get betrayed and trapped in the time chamber
What if America betrayed Joe Biden and locked him in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
“What if the real dragon balls were the friends we made along the way”
what if goku was 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 and trapped in the hyperbolic 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴 chamber
Trap him inside with zarbon
What if bruhland5679 was betrayed and trapped in my basement?
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What if @bruhland5679 was called @freakyland5679, and instead of commenting on TH-cam videos, he commented on onlyfans videos.
Kamehameha his way out
Probably won't happen but I'd really hope there's a what if where Goku and Gohan finally get to fuse in Buu Saga, it's been years and we still haven't seen the concept visualized yet!
I would love that, but idk if they will add what if characters, but they totally should since they are allowing people to create their own stories
So the cool thing about the game is, is that - barring the full cinematic moments - I am... 95% confident that the actual Sparking Zero story mode was made inside the custom battle maker. The way the campaign gameplay looks matches too accurately what the custom battles were shown to be. So - if there is literally anything they missed that you would like to see - you can make it yourself on the exact same level of quality as the official story mode
Look it up. Dragon Ball fusions has the idea down so all you’d get is a non chibi render of that character
@@thedevilsleutice Thats kid goku and youth gohan. Coohan ain't it chief.
Yeah I would love that too.
Cool lists man, the What Ifs I be making in the game will be these:
1. What If Gohan never stop training after the Cell Games, leading to a far stronger Gohan vs Beerus.
2. What If Majin Vegeta and Goku team up against Fat Buu.
3. What If Vegeta turned SSJ on Namek, leads to SSJ Vegeta vs Frieza/100% Frieza and leads to SSJ Vegeta vs Goku Rematch.
4. What If Future Goku never got the Heart Virus, leads to Goku and Z Fighters vs 17 and 18 at Max Dificulty = They lose in Story, for later leads Goku and Gohan vs 17 and 18 Rematch.
5. What If Universe 7 Team were "Different"? Future Trunks, Kid Trunks, Goten, Super Perfect Cell joins the Team.
6. What If Goku Mastered Kaioken after the Saiyan Saga.
7. What If Toei Verse/Z Goku vs Canon/Super Goku for Zen Oh's fun to see who is stronger.
8. What If Future Piccolo fuse with Kami in the Afterlife and was chosen by Whis due his potential and trains in the God Realm? Leads to Piccolo destroying 17 and 18 and leads to Piccolo vs Beerus and Piccolo vs Jiren.
9. What If Kid Buu Won and adapts to his dormant God Ki?
10. What If Hercule was actually Strong?
I need a what if Vegeta locked in and killed Cell before his perfect form.
Vegetas too dumb for that😂😂😂
I need them to pull a Raging Blast and have Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta be a thing again. 🔥
True bro ssj3 vegeta was so cool looking
Came here looking for Future Gohan, you did not disappoint Minato Flash. For what you were saying about Gohan surviving and fighting Black etc… there is a piece of dialogue at the end of his trailer which implies that this will happen. "Whoever you are, I won't let you ruin what's left of our Future" Deffo looking forward to it, FG beating the Androids with actual dialogue will go tuff.
Very cool video!
it's probably cell mate.
I just wanna see my boy Yamcha get some love
What If Yamcha Killed The Saibaman and beat the Saiyans? 🤔
@@Minatos_Flash Yea, I was thinking what if he survived the Saiyan encounter and went to Namek with the others. I'm hoping every character gets their little stories similar to what the game Dragon ball supersonic did
What if Yamaha defeats the saibaman. Conclusion- he dies to napa.
Oooh what if piccolo didn’t sacrifice himself for Gohans safety!!!
What if Beerus went back to sleep and GT happened or have him awaken in GT and he overslept
What if Vegeta was in the final three of the TOP
What if Goku black went Ssj
What if Cooler showed up during ROF!
Broly showed up against Broly once again he overslept during the Buu saga and heard goku screaming during super Broly and they box over who kills these two (The semi brain dead one from second coming that only says Kakarot for the entire movie until the literal end of the movie)
What if Future Gohan and Trunks as Ssjs fought them at the last stand and they won.
Tapion showing up in the future timeline.
I want some wild ones.
What if Gohan tripped in the middle of goku and vegeta while using the potara fusion. The 1st accidental 3 way fusion
Probably wouldn't work, but an interesting concept
To counter your Vegito vs Broly. I would like to see Gogeta vs Fused Zamasu.
That tenkaichi track you played at the start is such a classic. I play it when using K.O. Actives in Dokkan and it goes so well haha
That was a track called Challengers that was in the Budokai trilogy before Budokai Tenkaichi 1.
I'd say these ideas would interest me.
1. What if the Saiyans(all three Nappa, Raditz, and Vegeta, not just Vegeta) slowly turned good?
2. What if Beerus woke up in the GT Era?
3. What if Vegeta turned Super Saiyan first?
4. What if Frieza and Cooler teamed up on Namek?
5. What if Tarble was exiled to Earth?(this one could easily be DLC)
6. What if Chi-Chi stayed a fighter?
7. What if King Cold had his own Saga?(again, could work as DLC)
8. What if Dr. Gero awakened 13, 14, and 15 instead of 17 and 18?
9. What if King Vegeta successfully killed Frieza and took over?
10. What if King Cold, Cooler, and Frieza were on Namek together?
Im surprised the first hasnt been done. Theyre working for the guy who destroyed their planet, the fact that they never teamed up is actually surprising.
I like the future trunks in the top idea, what if after goku and vegeta reject to fuse gohan asks to fuse with trunks ??
Here’s my list of what’s if’s
What if Goku and vegeta fused against Jiren
What if Goku went MUI against Broly
What if gohan defeated Buu
Imagine if they took notes from cc2 doing story dlcs and the next season pass they add more what if stories.
That’s most definitely what they do eventually….just imagine, this game will be out for years….developers could have so much time to literally create their own STORIES and then release as DLC…kinda like Xenoverse but BETTER
@@geomejia8946 basically
The devs should also give us many versions of Black that isn't a Goku clone so the devs can get the actors of the characters to voice Black, just imagine a Chris Sabat's Vegeta Black becoming British when in Super Saiyan Rosé.
What you'll read next is just my idea of a what-if I just came up in my mind if the devs gave us more versions of Black that isn't a Goku Clone.
Just imagine Vegeta Black killing Bulma and just doing more emotional and mental damage to Future Trunks as Bulma's last gaze would be her looking into the face of the man she loved before Black kills her and he then continues to torment Future Trunks, resulting Trunks returning to the past but instead of attacking Goku, he attacks Vegeta and shouting that Vegeta killed Bulma which shocks everyone there especially Vegeta. Also, just imagine the rage boost Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta would get once Vegeta Black and Zamasu reveal how Vegeta Black came to be and what he did to Vegeta and his family from a different timeline, I bet not only will Vegeta get a rage boost after hearing what Black did but him unlocking Blue Evolution far earlier than he did in the timeline and unlike what Goku did in the original timeline against Goku Black, Vegeta would straight up murder Vegeta Black thus we wouldn't get a Merged Zamasu in that What-If scenario and by the time we get to the Tournament of Power Arc, Vegeta would have fully mastered his Blue Evolution that when he uses his final atonement move against G.O.D Toppo, Vegeta wouldn't be as exhausted as he was, he'd still have more gas in his engine to last much longer against Jiren until one of four things happens, those being,
One: Vegeta lasts for a few more minutes to try to damage Jiren more until Vegeta gets eliminated but gives Goku more energy.
Two: Vegeta and Goku team up to either fuse into Vegito to elimate Jiren since Jiren would never let them fuse to Gogeta unless Jiren got distracted so Gogeta can appear.
Three: Vegeta and Goku team up to try eliminate Jiren by working together without fusing, kinda like how Goku and Frieza teamed up to eliminate Jiren in the main timeline, Goku's and Vegeta's teamwork would make Whis very proud that his message to the Saiyans worked.
Four: Vegeta lasts longer till he is up against a Jiren who's finally gotten exhausted, Vegeta will surprisingly get through Jiren's thick skull and tells him that he was once like Jiren in that he thought power is all he ever needed but he gained trust from his fellow Z Warriors and realised that his friends and family give him power, Jiren could ask what Vegeta would wish for if he won and Vegeta would say that he would wish everyone in the tournament to be brought back to life, Jiren will finally see that there is someone who is prideful but would do the right thing and he let's Vegeta eliminate him thus Vegeta wins and wishes for everyone to be revived
@@geomejia8946i rather not get a bunch of paid dlc 😭
@@Marlinkz_ cuz you broke???👀👀
i think omega shenron vs beerus would be a better fight but im not sure how they would put a story behind
What if omega shenron wanted to destroy the earth but beerus doesnt allow it because he likes their food
Some ideas I had was for the potential Super Hero dlc. One of them was Z Broly appearing out of a wormhole on Beerus’s Planet and you had to fight him as Super Broly. Another was Piccolo failing to save Gohan and him going to Namek, getting his potential unlocked by Guru, and maybe turning Orange against either Frieza or Imperfect Cell
I wonder if what ifs can lead to other what ifs, or if it’s just a onetime thing. Either way I’m still pumped
Waiting to see if dlc packs get what ifs as well. Like what if Goku and Vegeta actually went to fight cell Max
It would be a missed opportunity if not, but this ain’t Xenoverse so we might get such
1.what if goku was lssj
2.what if goku and vegeta were born as gogeta and vegito
3.what if ginyu swap body with vegeta
4.what if zamasu swap body with vegeta/beerus
5.what if goku unlock ssj4 or blue in the battle of god
6.what if goku kill frieza
7.what if buu absorbed or defeat vegito
8.what if gotenks kill buu
9.what if gogeta vs zamasu
10.what if gogeta vs kid buu/buuhan
11.what if vegeta turn ssj when fighting frieza
12.what if vegeta turn ssjg in the battle of god
13.what if goku black didn't kill goku in zamasu body or goku survive the attack
14.what if gohan kill android 17-18
15.what if jiren won the tournament of power
16.what if goku have a 3rd child
17.what if cell turn good
18.what if goku teach caulifla how to turn ssj3
19.what if android 17 die in the tournament of power
20.what if gohan caught the potara
"What if Goku goes SS2 against Cell instead of Gohan. Like Goku still gives up, but then once Piccolo gives him the speech, he steps back in after Cell steals the senzu beans and goes ssj2".
It would be cool if you could choose whether or not to fuse into vegito against super buu and just fight with vegeta
What if DLC would be great maybe for the perspective of the villains maybe that would be insane 🔥🔥
What if in the cell ark when Gohan was fighting cell he was killed while Goku was still alive so he saw his son get killed, would he go SSJ2 And mop cell on the floor
I think they definitely will add what if forms. We’ve seen great ape forms of characters like Raditz and Nappa in BT and other games and FighterZ even had super saiyan Bardock as his level 3 and dramatic finish
super saiyan vegeta vs super saiyan goku on namek actually happened in a really old DBZ rpg card game. it would be sick to see that happen in this game as a scenario as well. of course it has to share the name of the game to complete the reference, "super saiyan legend"
just remember that: what ifs transformations exclusive will not happen (probably) bc they would need to add a chacter, and we only got like 40-50 space left for GT (that will most likely happen) classic, maybe movies, super and Z
What if one of the tournament options is tournaments of power, what if you could have massive t.o.p. online matches like a battle royal
Hope so, 5 Teams of 10 people, that will be interesting.
We know the story mode will be branched off by chatacters, so imagine if Yamcha or Tien gets an episode in the Buu Saga and gives us the return of Tiencha instead of Gotenks or Goku having an option to fuse with Hercule into Gokule.
Probably not going to get any custom/original characters unfortunately.
True, but out of pocket moments that differ from the norm are what people like about the what-ifs, and it would also give more to do for fodder characters like Yamcha and Tien.
I would love to see a what if where Gohan kept training after the cell saga to at least stay in fighting shape to see him fight Dabura properly
What if the hyperbolic time chamber got trapped inside goku
well with the custom battle creator you can make all of these
What if Gohan Turned Super Saiyan 2 in the first Broly movie
I personally hope we get what if vegeta got blue evolution against goku black and what if beast gohan was awoken during the tournament of power when everyone thought goku had died durning his first battle with jiren
Man so hyped at the possibilities, they are literally endless. I know its potatoes potahtoes in terms of beerus ordering the destruction of planet vegeta but i think it was just that he approved it lol
Since they have game exclusive characters such as ss3 vegeta what if they made a fusion dance fusion for kale and caulifla another thing what if they bought in dragon ball fusion characters like the beers and whis fusion
After the new breakdown of gamemode, every story on this list is possible. im so hype
Haven't seen the list but custom original characters are off the table unfortunately. Doubt we're gonna get stuff like SSJ3 Vegeta or SSJ4 Vegito, as much as I'd love. Probably no manga stuff either unfortunately.
@@Xeno_Solarus Definitely no manga stuff. Bandai only has rights to make stuff from the anime, not the manga.
@@LgHeccyboi Oh you poor fool, Gamma Burst Flash is one of Vegeta(Super)'s Ultimates and Trunks knows Solar Flare, Manga Content is already in. >:]
Future Gohan winning is something we need. He got his good ending in Dokkan Battle through the k.o. screen of his LR active skill.
red vegeta vs beerus would be interesting if he kills bulma. Then we really get to see vegeta unleashed, especially when he finds out planet vegeta was beerus's plan
At 9:40 isn’t goku ssj3 vs making vegeta teased as a what if there?
What is we got the og voice actor for kid goku and teen gohan
What if Goku and vegeta fused in the tournament of power would go crazy
From what I gathered the what If mode is mario maker like I can't wait
What if instead of goku fighting freiza on namek he fights cooler?
You basically described Limit Breaker SSJ4 from Dragon Ball Heroes 😂
I kinda hope they bring back the old what ifs too. I'd love to see the good Raditz or Zarbon betraying Frieza story lines in this new art style.
A what-if scenario that introduces a Sparking: Zero exclusive character. Gohkan! What if the potara fusion between father and son actually happened?
If fused beings have the memories of both characters wouldn't that mean Gohan would have Goku's memories of banging ChiChi
the what if i want the most is what if gohan caught that potara
I really wanna see super vegeto vs beerus as a what if during battle of gods
We are getting a Ginyu switched with gohan or krillin. each game he switches with different people, so he is going into one of them this time.
There are a few what-ifs I really wanna see in the game, but I doubt those would ever see the light of day in the console versions of Sparking! ZERO and those being what if Black wasn't Goku, basically how we see what-ifs on TH-cam of Zamasu wishing to swap bodies with someone that isn't Goku, such as a Vegeta or a Gohan or that fan theory that a lot of people had of Black's identity being that of Goten, but issue is, the voice acting lines since we never heard a Black being voiced by another actor that wasn't the voice actors of English and Japanese Gokus
I think a good what if is Vegito vs Broly (Super) would be a good one
What if beerus was an angel instead of whis? :0
What if they turned Goku black on his counter part and made him a semi good guy and made him join the TOP he was crazy with the power ups and was getting stronger by the minute it would be crazy to see how far he could go in the TOP maybe we even see Rosé SSJ2 or SSJ3
What if SSJ4 was in the Tournament of Power and ulock ui
This with Kakarot is a true marvel
What would be cool is if they paid tribute to previous games What If scenarios like Cell accidentally absorbing Krillin instead of Android 18 from Budokai 1, the villains banding together to fight the Z Fighters from Budokai Tenkaichi 1, Raditz suffering amnesia and fighting with Goku against Piccolo and Zarbon turning on Frieza and summoning Cooler to Namek from Budokai Tenkaichi 2.
What if ssjb goku vs ssj4 goku to see wich is stronger
I'm sick because no way we talking about god goku being more tactical as a fighter when this the same guy who shouted in beerus ear and chewed on his tail
That's more of a gag than anything. What about Goku vs Frieza with the underwater kamehameha blasts? Or Goku Vs Jiren with the destructo disc trick? Or the Instant Transmission Kamehameha?
Goku has SO many moments of being an incredible fighter through Z and Super, not even bringing up the fact that he was even more so during the Original Series
I don’t think that if will be as in depth as we hope. And the little scenario will ultimately have the same results and it won’t continue down an alternate path that the player made with all choices counting
Really exciting stuff i have 3 what if i really like to see if not not huge deal 1 what if goku black was in top we know he was basically unstoppable in his own arc the fusion what really killed him zamasu in goku body hust keep getting more powerful i think it be really interesting if we get top of him in it he massively change tide imo 2 i think if they do movies a what if janumba vs vegito and buuhan vs gogeta would be interesting what if i know lot people would like to see it 3 i think 3rd be really interesting is what if instead of gohan going ss2 in cell games it was goku or vegeta it be interesting finale fight to see i think it really fascinating those 3 i have i like could add more but i end it here love the video btw
I'd like to see a What If Vegito never unfused.
Vegito's my favorite character
I’d like to see gohan go beast in TOP or Broly movie
If they allow you to choose either the jp or english soundtrack
Whooooo baby
What if in the cell ark Goku and Gohan didn’t leave the HTC early
What if krillin wished for the power to save goku and now he gets a new power hat he has to fight to control because hes always as strong as goku
What if goku was the legendary super sayian, I know that it won’t happen but it’ll be cool
UI Goku vs Broly is way more interesting than it sounds.
The speed and dodges of Goku
The absolute power and destruction of Broly
This shit would be fye
people have to use their heads on theese what-ifs. They are not going to make fan characthers in a main DB game. So something like Goku fusing with Gohan against Buu is not going to happen cuz thats not an existing characther or model for the game. It has to be done with the forms and techniques we already have like the ssj Goku vs great ape vegeta or Trunks going ssj before Gohan dies to the androids or trunks dying to the androids and Gohan is the one to face Goku black. Its not going to be like ssj3 Majin Vegeta.
And if we don't see them, *We'll make them*
What if goku defeated frieza with spirit bomb and that leads into cooler's revenge
What if gotenks killed super buu and that leads into fusio' reborn
the only one we want to see is future gohan clapping 18 and 17 asses
What if Goku didn't reject Raditz's offer to join him and turn Evil
What if F Gohan went SSJ2 And had to fight Goku black, would he get a new form
What if when trunks came back to the past to get Gokus help vs Goku black they all came together and did the SSG ritual on trunks to give him SSG went to the HTC and trained him till he learned how to master the form and get stronger sent him back to the future to fight Goku black
What if vegito never unfused and they add a ego instinct vegito to the game 💪
I need a what if all the sayians and human z warriors were reversed and krillian and yamcha are the main. Also need a Ultra instinct krillin and Chatzhou
what if goku did not get sick during his fight with 19
What if goku becomes possessed by babidi instead of vegeta?
I hope we have specific character intros like in Raging Blast where characters would react to Broly and such
What, you mean like custom voicelines? We already got that. Vegeta has one with Broly. He says something like "Whatever my father has done to you and yours, it's no concern of mine." Or something like that. Pretty cool.
Yeah, those have already been confirmed. One is Future Trunks (Super) congratulating Gohan on becoming a scholar, to which Gohan thanks him but asks to train due to him becoming rusty.
If they add gt as a dlc pack I hope they add goku jr and vegeta jr
Yes please
Why would you want even more goku and vegeta clones?
@andreaspapadopoulos1328 with this people would be able to do la lot of things
What if Shenron didn’t know about the God transformation and actually explained how to go SS4 instead.
Imagine if in the super saiyan god ritual you can choose out of anyone there to go god to fight beerus
Ssg Gohan would be epic asf
That would be fun
Since they will cover OG Dragon Ball, I want to see what if Arale stayed with Goku.
I hope we get a manga story mode that at least stops at the T.O.P!
What if vegito blue vs full power broly
best part about the game is if you dont get the what ifs you want , just make em yourself
Imagine goku missed the frog toss. Tpk?
What would be fire is if gohan and Goku fused against super boo instead that would be hype asf
Goku fused with gohan needs to happen ngl
Hopefully it’s like budokai and it influences the whole story not just one and done
My hopes as well.
I hope the what ifs we are presented are much more diverse and complex than this, I like your ideas but they definitely feel more fan-fiction esque, and mostly consist of “what if character X used this form or fusion” I don’t want to be able to predict the outcomes we get. A great example is vegeta and trunks being the ones the finish cell. This is much more interesting because of its story implications, and is not just a fan fiction showdown
Nah that's fair. I plan on doing more videos in this fashion where I go more into specifics rather than just simplicity. I just wanted the first video to be more of the obvious choices and big exciting fanficy moments :)
@@Minatos_Flash that would be awesome for you to follow up with another video bro looking forward to it
If their is no new transformation what ifs they could make a whole dlc's about them, including
Ssj3 vegeta and majin vegeta
Ssj3 gogeta ( could have big bang kamehameha)
Ssj3 vegito ( could have unique move called the final dragon flash which would look like the final flash but much cooler)
Ssj4 bog goku and ssg4 bog goku difference being his hair color would look like ssj4 gogetas ( plus that could be a substitute for goku to go ssj4 while looking like gt goku before shrinking) he would probably have a special moveset for that
It's either that or they could add an adult gt goku that can go super saiyan 4 and ust change the outfit to dbz goku's
LSsj3 dbz broly
Ssj2 futer gohan
Ssj4 vegito
Ssj early vegeta
Teincha
Super kioken goku other world ( wouldn't be a transformation but an ability like blue)
Gokan (goku + gohan) potara buu saga
Califla ssj3 ( could be a what if after top) and yes kale would be their
Ssj4 dbz broly
Ssj3 rage futer trunks
Ssr2 and 3 goku black
Ssj hurcule ( could be an outfit)
Ssj bardock, ssj2, and/or ssj3 bardock
Teen gotenks what if from dbs superhero
Ssj3 teen gohan both cell saga and buu saga
Distruction powered up Ssb(ev) vegeta ( could happen when toppo throws the hakia blast ) could be a substitute for ultra ego but would look like ssb(ev) but ue colors
Ultimate kid gohan (cell saga) random idea but would probably look cool
Ssj5 goku as an omash to AF could just be a outfit change with some differences like his ssj2 transformation would look like ssj3 and his ssj3 transformation would look like ssj4 and his ssj4 transformation would look like ssj5
When we get a gt dlc would could get baby vegito black which would be cool
Maybe ssj and ssj3 gt gogeta
Ssj turles would look pretty cool considering the major difference from goku being his aura
Gt ssj3 vegeta
I can just picture the Final Dragon Flash being the Final Flash that fires a golden dragon
@@PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay agreed that would be pretty cool
What if Zamasu goes after Vegeta instead of goku
Seeing Future Trunks interacting with Vegeta Black
And Zamasu fused with Vegeta
Imagine they pull some shit like beast gohan vs jiren
My picks:
Super Saiyan Bardock vs Frieza
Super Saiyan Vegeta vs Frieza (Namek)
Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Perfect Cell
Super Saiyan 3 Goku vs Majin Vegeta
Vegito vs Beerus (Battle of Gods)
Vegito vs Kefla (Tournament of Power)
Beerus vs Broly (Super: Broly)
Goku / Vegeta vs Cell Max (Super Hero)
8 characters means that there are going to be 8 storylines
What if Vegeta never achieved god form and learned how to go Super Saiyan 4? (What-if scenario) there could only be one super saiyan God to exist at a time in one universe and it’s a form that Vegeta couldn’t obtain. So he trains hard, caps out his super saiyan form, gets his to tail back then learns how to become Super Saiyan 4 instead.
What if Goku Black traveled to the GT timeline and fought Baby Vegeta
What if Broly & Kale got together perhaps even have a baby together what kind of potential will that baby have. And would Broly move too Universe #6?