Taylor is the Dad, protector, loving man a lot of ppl needs as a child. I love the way he stood up for Bentley because Ryan’s parents are definitely enablers. Maci did a damn good job.
Some men need a lot of growing up to do and they end up dependent on Mama at age 21 - older!!!! Taylor and maci have the right to be upset!!!! Listen Grow up MAMA BOYS
Jen and Larry have showed their TRUE COLORS!!! Explains why Ryan is the way he is!!! Taylor and Maci are protecting their son. That's what a TRUE PARENT DOES!!!
I agree that taylor and maci are protecting Bentley and Larry and jen don't take responsibility on how they raised Ryan because they have showed their true colors and they don't care about anyone but themselves.
@@nrdifyI disagree. If the grandparents are guilt tripping the child then there’s a reason Maci and Taylor went off on them. Bentley should be put first, not Ryan.
@@nrdify they aren’t being blamed for his actions but Bentley has made clear statements that he’s not comfortable around Ryan and then Jen and Larry say things like we can’t have a party without your dad, go give him a hug, talk to him, take a picture with him, ect. That’s guilt tripping and making the child feel responsible for a relationship with Ryan. They pretend Ryan doesn’t do anything wrong and his addiction is the all covering excuse. I know addiction is a disease but if Ryan really wanted a relationship with his son he would be sober, admit his mistakes, and try to improve the relationship on Bentleys terms. That’s what a parent does expessially when they are the ones who have messed up.
When you hear Jen telling Taylor to sit down but isn't saying anything to Larry that truly speaks to how she probably parented Ryan and that he can do no wrong...
The passion this man has for a child that’s not his is amazing!! They are lucky that macie even allows them to have a relationship with Bentley! She don’t trust that they will do the right thing for Bentley because of how they stick up for Ryan and make excuses for him. I am 100% on Macie and Taylor’s side with this one!
I agree but fortunately and unfortunately, they can go to court for grandparent rights for visitation. I guess if anything, a court can decide if the environment would be fit for Bentley.
@@jamesanthony4946 wanting to have control isn't caring, its narcissist behavior. Grandpa has some anger issues and misplaced accountability. His behavior is not caring its concerning and scary.
Briana gets on my nerves. Devoin is a good father to Nova and bonus dad to Stlella. Briana always wants to call out Devoin and blame Devoin for everything but baldy that never does anything for Stella never catches heat. 🙄
When Larry came for Macy, I immediately thought if that guy doesn't shut him down real quick-like, divorce him, and as soon as it left my mind EVERYTHING got REAL. EVEN Macy broke character and I'm here for it. 😭😭😂😂💀👀
we all know why Briana doesn't want to go to court. its bc she knows that as soon as she does she's gonna have to give devoin a certain amount of time with nova and can't just take her away the second he does something that she doesn't like. its not bc she's such a great person lol
Child support doesn't mean he gets established time with Nova. He would still have to go through a judge, which he needs to, he needs to take that control from her! Luis doesn't absolutely nothing, except giving her stds an she let's that man get away with it, devoin does for his daughter and stella and she treats him like shit!
Bless Devon heart! He has never swayed from his struggle of his financial situation and not having a job! He was always trying to be there for His daughter but she put that space in between them because he couldn’t provide financially. Which really sucks because of course money is needed but the bond is just as important.
Right. Imagine how happier Briana would be with her life had she not been a petty, airhead. Devon would’ve had equity via time spent with Nova and now that he has the funds. He and Nova would be even more wealthy in love and bond. But, we all know this has nothing to do with money, or parenting it has everything to do with Briana having control. She’s a ding bat and knows she isn’t wealthy in intelligence, or self confidence and only has financial security bc MTV so she manipulates mens dicks and their seed. Sad excuse for a “strong, independent woman.” Hateful chick.
Well Im with Taylor on everything he was saying. It’s no wonder Ryan has the attitude he’s got in life. Look at the attitude his dad has. He instigated by bucking up and sat up on the end of that couch with attitude before Taylor did and they didn’t like Taylor standing up for what the facts were. Taylor is fed up and I don’t blame him. There’s absolutely NOTHING wrong with him having Maci and Bentleys back in all that was going on. That’s what good husbands parents and step parents do.
Yea but he need to be talking to Ryan not the grandparents Ryan is a grown man they can't force him to do right but Jen and Larry are good grandparents to Bentley and that's not cool for Taylor to try to fight Bentleys granddad
More like Amber is lucky that Gary's wife doesnt spill the beans on her ass. 🤣🤣🤣 She could make a fortune, too. Shes already raising her daughter without thanks or payment. Shes confusing Kristinas quiet disposition for meekness...one day shes gonna snap! 🤯
Brianna truly is the worst of the worst. She is a terrible female example for her daughters. That being said, Devon is EVERYTHING. He even considers the girls from her "And me, being the KiNd pErSoN that I am." & "EVERYTIME WE TALK ABOUT ish YOU GET SOO OFFENSIVE! SHUT THE
I think Ryan's parents are very manipulative and refuse to see that their son is at fault. You cannot force a child to have a relationship with the parent if the parent doesn't try. That is a no no.
I don’t either unfortunately. Old boy dipped out on her when she was pregnant with Stella, she makes the best decision SHE can and decides to put her up for adoption, tells old boy and he convinces her things will be different and that he’ll be there for her and his daughter, then dips AGAIN. And yet she’s over here worried about how much De’Voin is spending on his jeans like he hasn’t been paying you steadily for months. My old roommate has a baby mom like this, and he’s always there for his son, and they were doing child support outside the courts and he gave her $400 EVERY WEEK. I covered what rent he couldn’t and the bills he couldn’t make because he was supporting his son. One week she asked for more money and he told her no so she took him to court. He had a full time mechanics position and had a roof over his head and food in the fridge for this boy. He turned in all the receipts for anything that was for his son, and when it came time for her to turn in her receipts they were mostly from fine wine and good spirits. She went in getting $400/WEEK and came out with getting $52/MONTH. It was probably the best karma I had ever heard of someone getting.
My brother pays 1000$ a month in child support for his 2 boys and his baby mom is the fuckin worst!! Shes with some guy that has 2 daughters he only sees one and barely sees her and never pays his child support! My brother gets his kids every other weekend because that's all she allows him. When he ask for more time she says no. But tells everyone he is a deadbeat and that her bf is there dad and all kinds of nasty shit. Like the shit she says makes me see red !!!!! I hate those type of mothers
Taylor is a true father. Coming from someone with a dad just like Ryan, I would have killed to have Taylor when I was Bentleys age. He really loves that boy. He stepped up when Ryan wasn’t there.
Jen, Larry, and Ryan blame all of Bentley’s feelings on Maci. That way they don’t have to take any responsibility for anything they do wrong. It also trivializes Bentley’s feelings which is disgusting and dehumanizing.
Bravo again for Taylor stepping up for Bentley!! Jen and Larry are so out of touch with reality. You DO NOT have to abandon your support for Ryan while shielding Bentley from his poor choices. You can do both but you have to see how Ryan's behavior impacts Bentley and makes him uncomfortable to be around him. I think Bentley has chosen himself not to spend as much time with Jen and Larry.
That's exactly what happened. Maci and Taylor are just advocating for him and they're willing to look like the bad guys for Bentley b/c we already know Jen and Larry will guilt trip tf outta Bentley if he tried to voice his own feelings.
Luis is Latino and Devion is Black. Just cause you have a baby with someone does not mean anti-blackness does notvexist within you and your family @@orionb5217
Taylor is by far one of the best things to happen to Macy and Bentley ❤️ I’m so glad he stands up to Ryan’s parents. They’re so delusional. Jen going “okaaay” when Macy and Taylor walked off, shows up fucked up his parents are. They don’t even see what they’re doing wrong!!
Taylor is more a dad to Bentley than Ryan. Parents don't want to admit when they in the wrong. The way Taylor fought for Bentley showed his love and commitment to that boy and Im sure its mutual.
Kristiana called herself a bonus mom, not Amber. The relationship that Amber has with her daughter is a reflection of the effort that put into the relationship.
Exactly. Idk why everyone keeps saying she called Amber a bonus mom! Thats not what she said at all. She's way more then a bonus mom to Leah, shes been there for her way more then amber has. Amber's blames everything on her mental health and Kristina and Gary and take no responsibility for anything shes done. She has put men before Leah and has skipped important moments for absolutely nothing
Yeah I still don't get how or why that pissed Amber off. It's not Kristinas responsibility to take up for Amber. If she were a mom that was PRESENT in her life... there would be zero issues, nor would there be a reason for any of them to have to "take up for" her. It is what it is. Amber loves her kids... but she can't get past herself to BE there.
I like how Maci and Taylor stand up for Bently and tell Ryan’s parents what’s really up. Taylor is a great dad to all his kids and Maci is such a great mom
FR!! Ryan has always had issues with being a dad… yeah he was somewhat around when Bentley was young but you have a teen now and he needs you the most! Thank God Bentley has Taylor
Amber is such a selfish person. Kristina has been very supportive of her and leahs relationship. Its not Kristinas fault Leah feels the way she feels. Thats Amber's fault and problem and she just wants someone to blame for it.
I totally understand and agree, however I see how Amber would feel that way and not like Kristina because of it. If my daughter was living with another woman that called me a bonus mom I would be hurt and it would come out as anger 100%
@@Aprilann871 oh, okay... I didn't catch that. Then her behavior quite awful ( as usual ) even if she has these feelings. grow up and take it like a woman, don't make it everyone else's business, we don't care. She really just can't see things from any other perspective than her own.... I bet her feelings hurt to watch someone else raise her daughter, but I can't imagine what it would feel like for Leah, and amber just doesn't seem to think about her feelings at all
Taylor did a great honor of taking in Bentley as his own child & being the better Father Figure for him. Ryan is a shallow person that have parents that baby him 24/7 look where he is now..
Larry started the fight and Taylor was speaking on Bently and his wife. Jen telling Taylor to stop and not Larry shows the type of person jen and Larry are. They can do no wrong.
Devoin is right, she isn’t getting a bag from a regular 9-5 so she can’t speak about a normal persons finances. You get a check from having children, one of which he helped you produce!
Yes! Amber has been nothing other than a horrific parenting example for that little girl. Thank god Larry found Kristina! That poor baby would have grown up in a shithole if she was left with Amber.
Let’s get it straight Briana didn’t want to put Devion on child support because she wanted more than he could afford (before MTV money) and the courts wouldn’t make him him pay what she wanted. She can only afford Loubs now because of MTV money. Bet she couldn’t afford them when she was working her 9-5 at least talk about your struggles🙄
@@RealTalk1411 EXACTLY! She talks down to him and degrades him, but his money is sure good enough to pay for her red bottoms and all the other bs she wants to flaunt around. She's disgusting. And her attitude makes her the nastiest person ever. If she cleaned up that mouth, attitude and shitty personality, maybe men wouldn't sleep with her and then dip afterwards. They might actually stick around.
At the end of the day, Maci and Taylor are protecting Bentley. Yes Ryan might be his biological father however he really hasn't been there for his son. Taylor took that role over once he stepped into Maci's life. I believe Jen and Larry need to take a step back and realize how Taylor has been there for Bentley when their son wasn't. Taylor showed Bentley unconditional love, support and has helped Bentley grow up into the young man he is today. Jen and Larry need to take a step back and see all the damage they've done enabling Ryan. Bentley shouldn't have to do anything he doesn't want to. He is a great kid who knows who is there for him no matter what! Ryan needs to grow up!
@JazzyNeCole. And his father denies the things he said to the tabloids, probably needed money by just telling lies about Macy. They also act like they are the victims. They have spoiled their son rotten and they can't change anything about it now.
I think Macie has been being the bigger person for years, wanting what’s best for Bentley and making sure he knows his other family, half-trusting her son is safe with his grandparents, whom she doesn’t even know well enough, to be quite honest, and who have put Bentley in situations that are far from ideal, and often uncomfortable for him. Macie is THE mom. She doesn’t have to let them see Bentley at all. If she wanted to manipulate or keep Bentley in a certain mindset, she wouldn’t send him to visit the grandparents AT ALL! And she DOESN’T HAVE TO!
She doesn't want to go thru the court because she did her best to keep devoin off novas birth certificate since novas birth. If she filed for child support, then he would have to do a paternity test and he would be put on novas BC. Shes petty and wants it ALL her way
The manipulation is real with Jen and Larry. They like to manipulate the situation to be the victim after the fact. Larry was heated before the conversation even started. Best believe , Maci and Taylor are probably the best parents on there.
Maci don't you ever let that man go he is amazing I wish more step-dads loved their step kids the way he loves and advocates for Bentley. I would say Bentley is lucky but he deserves to have a father like Taylor and I'm glad he has him, finally. Bentley is going to be ok with him having his back and mama bear Maci too.
We all hate Briana at this point . Give her spot on the show to her baby daddy lol . I follow him on Instagram. He’s really trying to be in his bag with cooking , living his best life with his pretty ass girlfriend. I can’t wait til they have a kid 🤣🤣. Briana needs to figure out how to work her issues out with men because she can’t keep one to save her life honestly.
Briana so full of crap. She has this attitude that she's the only one that wanna show off and date all these men and he can't. She gotta get it together
In my opinion they should kick Brianna off teen mom 2 . She complained about money drama but she went to Disney cruise or Disneyworld . YO MTV KICK BRIANNA OFF THE SHOW PLEASE .
There is a difference between a dad and a father. Ryan is a father and Taylor is a dad to Bentley . A father is a man that just has a baby with a woman that doesn’t take care of that child. A dad loves , nurtures , has fun and does all the right this a loving man should do with his child.
@@ellexo0988 waaa! Wrong answer in my book! My daughter has a father and he’s not in her life. If he were in her life he would be her daddy and she would call him dad. She is now a teenager and prefers not to call him dad , but her “father.” A dad cares, loves , nurtures his child , not leaves and never calls or sends a birthday card in the mail. I never talked bad about him to her as I knew one day she would grow up a see for herself that he isn’t and wasn’t here for her and she knows that she doesn’t need him in her life on her own.
@@amosmoses8402 a father and dad aren’t that different lol. A biological father is the word you’re looking for. “Father” has so much more meaning. There’s a reason why people say we need good father figures.
This right here is the main reason why Ryan is not going to get sober. His parents are enablers and blaming everyone for his behavior and mistakes. Zero accountability.
What does Briana want him to do pay her bills? That man is trying if I was chris I would put myself on child support. He might get lucky and pay less then 250 and what will her complaint be. He been paying 250 to you why are you making it seem like he ain't doing anything. Briana is a loud mouth with not bite.
I think that's what's going on. In Briana's mind, she believes that Devoin should be helping her with bills and he is not obligated to do this. She believes that he should be helping her with her bills because she is taking care of his daughter but he is not obligated to do that. There are many baby mamas out there like Briana who feel that it is the baby daddy's responsibility to take care of them too and its not. Their obligation is the child. Devoin is not obligated to pay Briana's bill. He does not live with her nor are they married so he is not obligated to help her with her bills. Briana is a grown ass woman. Her bills are her responsibility. Its not Devoin's fault that Briana is living in a house that she cannot afford to maintain.
@@darealveezy1267 Briana is always complaining that she has no money that all of her money went into the house but when the time comes for the reunion she is well dressed. She is decked out in designer brands. She's wearing Louboutins. Last reunion she had a whole Gucci belt that was probably someone's entire rent but she has no money. Last season she took a trip to Puerto Rico with her "secret bae" but she claims to have no money. I don't ever see any of the other Teen Moms wearing designer brands to the reunion. They come to the reunions looking pretty basic. Briana is the only one that shows up wearing designer brands. Kail wears jeans and sneakers. Leah might put on a nice top or dress but that's it. Briana comes dressed like she is attending a red carpet event.
@@darealveezy1267 She's mad annoying. She didn't have to tell Devoin that he isn't a real man. So because he isn't giving you $20 000 dollars every month he isn't a real man. Devoin isn't a real man but he is the only stable male figure in your other daughter's life. Devoin is the only father Stella knows at this point. She doesn't even know Luis. Luis is a complete stranger to her.
I would love for Briana to actually articulate exactly what it is that she wants from Devoin. He pays child support, he picks up and drops Nova off at school, he has her on the weekends, and he would even take Stella too if Brianna allowed it. Yet she's constantly insulting him and telling him he doesn't do enough! What the heck else does she want??
She's emotionally immature. Shows her feelings but doesn't communicate what she wants ,reacts like a child when she doesn't get her way ,threatening legal action, withdrawing emotionally, giving the silent treatment
Brianna doesn't want to put him on child support. Because that's going to give him right to Nova. She won't be able to control that so she rather complain about it. Talk about it but there's a reason why she hasn't put him on child support. She likes that control it was the same thing with Stella's Dad. They start paying they automatically get rights and there's nothing she can do about it.
Taylor told them how he feels too. Taylor has been there for Bentley since he was little. If Taylor wasn't putting Bentley first, he wouldn't be standing up for him on that stage. Love Taylor so much! He's amazing! What a great dad figure. That's a dad standing up for his son against a drug addict and his enablers. Period.
Jen and Larry are such enablers! Totally toxic..you can tell Larry was itchy to start a fight because they don't get their way, they should be ashamed of themselves. Smh
I mean, it doesn’t matter how much money she has. As a father, Devoin should also be financially caring for his child. However, she’s going extremely hard knowing his circumstances.
@@cecee_x3391 he said let’s get on child support lmao… that women just wants to complain and doesn’t want the father to have visitation rights BUT wants all the money, it doesn’t work like that… Brianna is SELFISH
Good for taylor. Taylor is an incredible person. Maci ought to just go to court and get full custody of Bentley. Ryan can have visits and if he shows up fine if not forget him.
@@Bee-lieve623 Yeah talking about just give your time. He does not give time or money to Stella but Devoin gives money for Nova and time to both Stella and Nova. Stella even said she prefers Devoin over Louis.
Jen and Larry blames everyone except for Ryan. Absolutely ridiculous. They should be ashamed of themselves and be grateful for the fact that Bentley has an amazing mother and stepfather.
Ew - I had the most respect for Jen and Larry when Macy was pregnant and just had Bentley. It seems like fame went to their head. Jen looks so fake in this interview. When Larry started to lose his cool, look at her face - she's shocked, then she immediately starts to 'tear' up. I loved the Taylor stood up for Bentley - they do put this kid in situations where he's forced to be around Ryan. Taylor is more a father than Ryan ever was/is.
I do not like BRIANNA anymore like Devon be there for HIS child & HER other child too let’s not forget ✍🏽 she need to be on LOUIS or whoever her other BD is tail like she always on Devon tail
It makes me laugh that Amber tried to say Kristina is a horrible person. She literally raised your daughter, Amber. Get yourself on some different meds and get yourself in a good place, cause your recent activity towards your baby girl is absolutely horrible. If you ever want a chance of a mother daughter relationship in the future, you better figure out what you need to do, cause it's not on Leah. Gary and Kristina have done wonderful raising her.
Jen and Larry are the biggest enablers ever. They think Ryan is an angel. They are so lucky they have someone to look after their grand kid properly because Ryan can't even look after himself
If Brianna goes to court (which she won’t) for child support let’s be honest she will be the one to pay to Devoin because she makes way more money than he does!!!
taylor and maci were not wrong . taylor was 100% point on every single thing he said , he may be just a stepdad to bentley but he acts more like a dad then ryan does . jen and larry were not putting bentley first entire conversation , they were making excuses for their own son . and their trying to make maci the escape goat for all the issues . maci is certainly one lucky women to have taylor .
Taylor snapped. And this was classic narcissism. Get someone so so so mad that they snap, then act like they’re crazy. Taylor snapped and I don’t blame him for anything he did here.
Brianna is a true example why i tell my sons to be CAREFUL who they lay with !! Because if they get pregnant their gonna deal with a baby ro raise and a grown woman child for 18 yrs !
Briana literally can’t control herself. She’s always a victim and brings up the past to be the victim. ALWAYS. When now it’s completely irrelevant to what Devion is doing now. Unfortunate.
Taylor is the Dad, protector, loving man a lot of ppl needs as a child. I love the way he stood up for Bentley because Ryan’s parents are definitely enablers. Maci did a damn good job.
Some men need a lot of growing up to do and they end up dependent on Mama at age 21 - older!!!! Taylor and maci have the right to be upset!!!! Listen Grow up MAMA BOYS
Maci and Ryan have rekindle for Bentley and he's clean and sees Bentley again
It seems Briana is the one more flustered about money then Devon, she's not listening to him when he said let's get a set number with the court .
100
She’s trying to make him look like the bad guy, always.
Who want mtv to fired briana
And it shouldn't matter if he wasn't able to before at least he is trying now..
I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS
Jen and Larry have showed their TRUE COLORS!!! Explains why Ryan is the way he is!!! Taylor and Maci are protecting their son. That's what a TRUE PARENT DOES!!!
Well said love that you called Taylor a father to Bentley
Taylor and Maci are outstanding parents. Always protect your child especially from emotionally manipulative people like these two.
I agree that taylor and maci are protecting Bentley and Larry and jen don't take responsibility on how they raised Ryan because they have showed their true colors and they don't care about anyone but themselves.
FACTSSSSS
The “Golden Child”.
Jen and Larry. They kept digging their own grave. Lol absolutely no class. “It’s not Ryan birthday party” BEST LINE EVER.
Ok, but why are they being blamed for Ryan’s actions?
@@nrdify because they caused and created Ryan’s entitled attitude and never taught him to be better. And they defend his behavior.
@@jamieisradical3137 Ryan is an adult and he is responsible for his own actions. Maci is wrong to be taking it out on the grandparents.
@@nrdifyI disagree. If the grandparents are guilt tripping the child then there’s a reason Maci and Taylor went off on them. Bentley should be put first, not Ryan.
@@nrdify they aren’t being blamed for his actions but Bentley has made clear statements that he’s not comfortable around Ryan and then Jen and Larry say things like we can’t have a party without your dad, go give him a hug, talk to him, take a picture with him, ect. That’s guilt tripping and making the child feel responsible for a relationship with Ryan. They pretend Ryan doesn’t do anything wrong and his addiction is the all covering excuse. I know addiction is a disease but if Ryan really wanted a relationship with his son he would be sober, admit his mistakes, and try to improve the relationship on Bentleys terms. That’s what a parent does expessially when they are the ones who have messed up.
When you hear Jen telling Taylor to sit down but isn't saying anything to Larry that truly speaks to how she probably parented Ryan and that he can do no wrong...
@,Austin Utillie SO TRUE
Yeah
Exactly what I was thinking
You hit the nail on the head there bud
-You Are So Right!!!
The passion this man has for a child that’s not his is amazing!! They are lucky that macie even allows them to have a relationship with Bentley! She don’t trust that they will do the right thing for Bentley because of how they stick up for Ryan and make excuses for him. I am 100% on Macie and Taylor’s side with this one!
I agree but fortunately and unfortunately, they can go to court for grandparent rights for visitation. I guess if anything, a court can decide if the environment would be fit for Bentley.
@@sinderella23 not necessarily and I doubt Maci was ever worried about that. They have replacement grandchildren now anyway. They don't care.
@@Hustler7227 They clearly do care and are clearly trying.
I think if you add up all the tattoos these girls have they have enough for a lifetime please no more ink lol
@@jamesanthony4946 wanting to have control isn't caring, its narcissist behavior. Grandpa has some anger issues and misplaced accountability. His behavior is not caring its concerning and scary.
I loved how Taylor stuck up for Bentley, that is not easy, he cares so much for that boy, your one lucky woman Maci 💙
Briana gets on my nerves. Devoin is a good father to Nova and bonus dad to Stlella. Briana always wants to call out Devoin and blame Devoin for everything but baldy that never does anything for Stella never catches heat. 🙄
Boom! Exactly! He does for both of them girls when he doesn't have to do anything for stella. Luis is the true definition of a deadbeat
Egghead is still hitting that that’s why.
@@FaffyPika an gave her a std smh
PERIOD to baldy notttttt doing anything for Stella 🗣🗣lol cause he don’t
@@FaffyPika she was and he even gave her the clap…and she still wanted to sleep with him after
Somebody give Taylor an award bc FINALLY THEY SAID IT! 🥰
When Larry came for Macy, I immediately thought if that guy doesn't shut him down real quick-like, divorce him, and as soon as it left my mind EVERYTHING got REAL. EVEN Macy broke character and I'm here for it. 😭😭😂😂💀👀
Standing ovation for Taylor!!!
Taylor is the definition of a TRUE MAN!!!!!❤🇨🇦❤🇨🇦❤
Taylor was actually being a Dad for Bentley. Ryan has never been a Dad to any of his kids.
Taylor ain't no punk, he just seems like it sometimes because he's ex Amish, and they have a very different culture compared to normal Americans.
we all know why Briana doesn't want to go to court. its bc she knows that as soon as she does she's gonna have to give devoin a certain amount of time with nova and can't just take her away the second he does something that she doesn't like. its not bc she's such a great person lol
Child support doesn't mean he gets established time with Nova. He would still have to go through a judge, which he needs to, he needs to take that control from her! Luis doesn't absolutely nothing, except giving her stds an she let's that man get away with it, devoin does for his daughter and stella and she treats him like shit!
Brianna will never do the child support Bc than she will still try to make it out to be he don’t anything
Devi on does a lot for Stella as well
So true
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Bless Devon heart! He has never swayed from his struggle of his financial situation and not having a job! He was always trying to be there for His daughter but she put that space in between them because he couldn’t provide financially. Which really sucks because of course money is needed but the bond is just as important.
Right. Imagine how happier Briana would be with her life had she not been a petty, airhead. Devon would’ve had equity via time spent with Nova and now that he has the funds. He and Nova would be even more wealthy in love and bond. But, we all know this has nothing to do with money, or parenting it has everything to do with Briana having control. She’s a ding bat and knows she isn’t wealthy in intelligence, or self confidence and only has financial security bc MTV so she manipulates mens dicks and their seed. Sad excuse for a “strong, independent woman.” Hateful chick.
I hope he reads all the comments online so he knows he’s on the right track and she’s psycho.
Even Brittany knew briana was wrong because she never talks to Devoin calmly like that
I was just about to say, wow, they’ve come a long way!
Well Im with Taylor on everything he was saying. It’s no wonder Ryan has the attitude he’s got in life. Look at the attitude his dad has. He instigated by bucking up and sat up on the end of that couch with attitude before Taylor did and they didn’t like Taylor standing up for what the facts were. Taylor is fed up and I don’t blame him. There’s absolutely NOTHING wrong with him having Maci and Bentleys back in all that was going on. That’s what good husbands parents and step parents do.
On point
💯💯💯💯💯 PERIOD
Absolutely
Yea but he need to be talking to Ryan not the grandparents Ryan is a grown man they can't force him to do right but Jen and Larry are good grandparents to Bentley and that's not cool for Taylor to try to fight Bentleys granddad
@@jarricah7920 that’s not loool honey how old are you?
Amber is lucky that Gary’s wife doesn’t *actually* say anything snarky or malicious, because she’d be more than dang justified.
Exactly, Amber is so delusional
Amber had no business having kids. She needs to really reflect on her actions and she has no one to blame but herself.
Amber is high AF
Facts.
More like Amber is lucky that Gary's wife doesnt spill the beans on her ass. 🤣🤣🤣 She could make a fortune, too. Shes already raising her daughter without thanks or payment. Shes confusing Kristinas quiet disposition for meekness...one day shes gonna snap! 🤯
Brianna truly is the worst of the worst. She is a terrible female example for her daughters. That being said, Devon is EVERYTHING. He even considers the girls from her
"And me, being the KiNd pErSoN that I am." & "EVERYTIME WE TALK ABOUT ish YOU GET SOO OFFENSIVE! SHUT THE
Briana = 0 class
I think Ryan's parents are very manipulative and refuse to see that their son is at fault. You cannot force a child to have a relationship with the parent if the parent doesn't try. That is a no no.
I don't see briana going hard on Luis 🙄
I don’t either unfortunately. Old boy dipped out on her when she was pregnant with Stella, she makes the best decision SHE can and decides to put her up for adoption, tells old boy and he convinces her things will be different and that he’ll be there for her and his daughter, then dips AGAIN.
And yet she’s over here worried about how much De’Voin is spending on his jeans like he hasn’t been paying you steadily for months.
My old roommate has a baby mom like this, and he’s always there for his son, and they were doing child support outside the courts and he gave her $400 EVERY WEEK. I covered what rent he couldn’t and the bills he couldn’t make because he was supporting his son.
One week she asked for more money and he told her no so she took him to court. He had a full time mechanics position and had a roof over his head and food in the fridge for this boy. He turned in all the receipts for anything that was for his son, and when it came time for her to turn in her receipts they were mostly from fine wine and good spirits.
She went in getting $400/WEEK and came out with getting $52/MONTH. It was probably the best karma I had ever heard of someone getting.
My brother pays 1000$ a month in child support for his 2 boys and his baby mom is the fuckin worst!! Shes with some guy that has 2 daughters he only sees one and barely sees her and never pays his child support! My brother gets his kids every other weekend because that's all she allows him. When he ask for more time she says no. But tells everyone he is a deadbeat and that her bf is there dad and all kinds of nasty shit. Like the shit she says makes me see red !!!!! I hate those type of mothers
Cause she still messing with devoin 😂😂
@@Aprilann871 I don’t see how someone can date someone who doesn’t take care of their own children
Taylor was 100% right.
And notice how they told him to give them an example and when he did they had nothing to say except "okayyyy" 🤦🏼♀️
All Devon i think was tryna say is when he didn’t have any income he didn’t get any grace. Maybe he didn’t pay because he really didn’t have it..
Taylor ❤ what a legend proving how a 21st century step dads should be. 10/10 morals and passionate about his stepsons wellbeing
Taylor is a true father. Coming from someone with a dad just like Ryan, I would have killed to have Taylor when I was Bentleys age. He really loves that boy. He stepped up when Ryan wasn’t there.
Jen, Larry, and Ryan blame all of Bentley’s feelings on Maci. That way they don’t have to take any responsibility for anything they do wrong. It also trivializes Bentley’s feelings which is disgusting and dehumanizing.
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Well said.
AMEN!!!!
Go TAYLOR!
that’s what a true father looks like!
Bravo again for Taylor stepping up for Bentley!! Jen and Larry are so out of touch with reality. You DO NOT have to abandon your support for Ryan while shielding Bentley from his poor choices. You can do both but you have to see how Ryan's behavior impacts Bentley and makes him uncomfortable to be around him. I think Bentley has chosen himself not to spend as much time with Jen and Larry.
Exactly
Yup💯💯💯
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 well said
I honestly don't blame Bentley for making that choose because Jen and Larry both are pushing him to far and Ryan has become more unsafe to be around
That's exactly what happened. Maci and Taylor are just advocating for him and they're willing to look like the bad guys for Bentley b/c we already know Jen and Larry will guilt trip tf outta Bentley if he tried to voice his own feelings.
Briana had no reason to talk. She went to the club and caught something from her other baby daddy 😂
Lmaooo fr!!!!😂😂😂😂
Right she trash giving devoin so much grief and not Luis
Luis is Latino and Devion is Black. Just cause you have a baby with someone does not mean anti-blackness does notvexist within you and your family @@orionb5217
the clip of maci, taylor, and ryans parents will never get old. jen and larry are sooo toxic.
Maci always has iconic scenes for some reason 😂
Taylor is by far one of the best things to happen to Macy and Bentley ❤️ I’m so glad he stands up to Ryan’s parents. They’re so delusional. Jen going “okaaay” when Macy and Taylor walked off, shows up fucked up his parents are. They don’t even see what they’re doing wrong!!
Agreed, but Macy did a damn fine job with Bentley all on her own before she met Taylor. She's been the standout teen mum from day one. Class act.
Taylor is more a dad to Bentley than Ryan. Parents don't want to admit when they in the wrong. The way Taylor fought for Bentley showed his love and commitment to that boy and Im sure its mutual.
Kristiana called herself a bonus mom, not Amber. The relationship that Amber has with her daughter is a reflection of the effort that put into the relationship.
Yeah
Exactly. Idk why everyone keeps saying she called Amber a bonus mom! Thats not what she said at all. She's way more then a bonus mom to Leah, shes been there for her way more then amber has. Amber's blames everything on her mental health and Kristina and Gary and take no responsibility for anything shes done. She has put men before Leah and has skipped important moments for absolutely nothing
Literally ! Amber is delusional & is defensive because accountability equals being uncomfortable …
Yeah I still don't get how or why that pissed Amber off. It's not Kristinas responsibility to take up for Amber. If she were a mom that was PRESENT in her life... there would be zero issues, nor would there be a reason for any of them to have to "take up for" her. It is what it is. Amber loves her kids... but she can't get past herself to BE there.
amber isnt the brightest bulb in the tanning bed, coupled with being selfish it makes sense if she assumed "bonus mom" was about her
I like how Maci and Taylor stand up for Bently and tell Ryan’s parents what’s really up. Taylor is a great dad to all his kids and Maci is such a great mom
FR!! Ryan has always had issues with being a dad… yeah he was somewhat around when Bentley was young but you have a teen now and he needs you the most! Thank God Bentley has Taylor
Amber is such a selfish person. Kristina has been very supportive of her and leahs relationship. Its not Kristinas fault Leah feels the way she feels. Thats Amber's fault and problem and she just wants someone to blame for it.
You hit it right in the nail
I totally understand and agree, however I see how Amber would feel that way and not like Kristina because of it. If my daughter was living with another woman that called me a bonus mom I would be hurt and it would come out as anger 100%
@@horror_wendafromsprunki she didnt call amber a bonus mom she called herself a bonus mom
UGHHHHHH I HONESTLY CAN'T STAND AMBER ANYMORE!!! IT'S ALWAYS POOR POOR AMBER!!!!!!
@@Aprilann871 oh, okay... I didn't catch that. Then her behavior quite awful ( as usual ) even if she has these feelings. grow up and take it like a woman, don't make it everyone else's business, we don't care. She really just can't see things from any other perspective than her own.... I bet her feelings hurt to watch someone else raise her daughter, but I can't imagine what it would feel like for Leah, and amber just doesn't seem to think about her feelings at all
Taylor did a great honor of taking in Bentley as his own child & being the better Father Figure for him. Ryan is a shallow person that have parents that baby him 24/7 look where he is now..
Larry started the fight and Taylor was speaking on Bently and his wife. Jen telling Taylor to stop and not Larry shows the type of person jen and Larry are. They can do no wrong.
Gary has the patience of a saint…
Devoin is right, she isn’t getting a bag from a regular 9-5 so she can’t speak about a normal persons finances. You get a check from having children, one of which he helped you produce!
Amber please stop trying to blame Gary's wife for YOU not being a mother to Leah. Be mad at YOU.
Yes! Amber has been nothing other than a horrific parenting example for that little girl. Thank god Larry found Kristina! That poor baby would have grown up in a shithole if she was left with Amber.
My name is Leah ambers daughters name is Leah and one character is named Leah lol my name was never popular before
@@leahflower9924 Leah is a lovely name!
Let’s get it straight Briana didn’t want to put Devion on child support because she wanted more than he could afford (before MTV money) and the courts wouldn’t make him him pay what she wanted. She can only afford Loubs now because of MTV money. Bet she couldn’t afford them when she was working her 9-5 at least talk about your struggles🙄
Thank you !
Absolutely. This show is her meal ticket. Teen Mom 2 pays for her Louboutins, her LV bags, all her surgeries, her vacations.
@@RealTalk1411 yessssss!!! And she wants to act like she's better than him and I absolutely cannot stand that
@@CecilCountyBornAndRaised She loves to talk down to Devoin but that same Devoin is literally the only father that Stella knows.
@@RealTalk1411 EXACTLY! She talks down to him and degrades him, but his money is sure good enough to pay for her red bottoms and all the other bs she wants to flaunt around. She's disgusting. And her attitude makes her the nastiest person ever.
If she cleaned up that mouth, attitude and shitty personality, maybe men wouldn't sleep with her and then dip afterwards. They might actually stick around.
Gary, Corey, Taylor, Cole, are amazing fathers!! Seriously 👏👏👏
And Devon
And Devoin thank you.
Tyler also!
At the end of the day, Maci and Taylor are protecting Bentley. Yes Ryan might be his biological father however he really hasn't been there for his son. Taylor took that role over once he stepped into Maci's life. I believe Jen and Larry need to take a step back and realize how Taylor has been there for Bentley when their son wasn't. Taylor showed Bentley unconditional love, support and has helped Bentley grow up into the young man he is today. Jen and Larry need to take a step back and see all the damage they've done enabling Ryan. Bentley shouldn't have to do anything he doesn't want to. He is a great kid who knows who is there for him no matter what! Ryan needs to grow up!
Totally agree with everything U said 100%!
Larry & Jen don't want to accept that their son is toxic lol. They love their baby boy and nobody else cares about Ryan lol.
@JazzyNeCole. And his father denies the things he said to the tabloids, probably needed money by just telling lies about Macy. They also act like they are the victims. They have spoiled their son rotten and they can't change anything about it now.
Period Taylor. His parents LOVED to manipulate Bentley.
Jen and Larry are toxic grand parents.. Bentley will thank it's stepdad later in life for steeping up for him.
I think Macie has been being the bigger person for years, wanting what’s best for Bentley and making sure he knows his other family, half-trusting her son is safe with his grandparents, whom she doesn’t even know well enough, to be quite honest, and who have put Bentley in situations that are far from ideal, and often uncomfortable for him.
Macie is THE mom. She doesn’t have to let them see Bentley at all. If she wanted to manipulate or keep Bentley in a certain mindset, she wouldn’t send him to visit the grandparents AT ALL! And she DOESN’T HAVE TO!
Exactly! This!
Devon is honestly trying. Briana is trying to make this more difficult than this should be
She had a kid with a poor guy who's trying and she's making lots of money now and she just wants to pick him apart sad
I would hate to have Brianna has BM!! She’s so miserable!!
She doesn't want to go thru the court because she did her best to keep devoin off novas birth certificate since novas birth. If she filed for child support, then he would have to do a paternity test and he would be put on novas BC. Shes petty and wants it ALL her way
its so funny when devoin is over it he really tolerates it until he cant and i feel so bad
"it's not Ryan's birthday party." YUPPPPP, go off, taylor!
The manipulation is real with Jen and Larry. They like to manipulate the situation to be the victim after the fact. Larry was heated before the conversation even started. Best believe , Maci and Taylor are probably the best parents on there.
Exactly!
Maci upgraded, w/ Taylor. 🙌🏽😻.
Maci don't you ever let that man go he is amazing I wish more step-dads loved their step kids the way he loves and advocates for Bentley. I would say Bentley is lucky but he deserves to have a father like Taylor and I'm glad he has him, finally. Bentley is going to be ok with him having his back and mama bear Maci too.
We all hate Briana at this point . Give her spot on the show to her baby daddy lol . I follow him on Instagram. He’s really trying to be in his bag with cooking , living his best life with his pretty ass girlfriend. I can’t wait til they have a kid 🤣🤣. Briana needs to figure out how to work her issues out with men because she can’t keep one to save her life honestly.
When they have a kid Bri is gonna lose her marbles 😂
@@desireemassiah8560 Watch them have a boy 🤪 Oooh I can’t wait.
Briana so full of crap. She has this attitude that she's the only one that wanna show off and date all these men and he can't. She gotta get it together
@Glendolyn Minxalyn Cause Bri only had girls
I have just been waiting for somebody to knock her sloppy ass out 😂 I cannot wait for him to marry his new girl !!!!
Taylor is the definition of a Stand up Man💯
I felt Taylor & Maci on that. 💯
Why she won’t have the same energy with Lewis Devon step up a whole lot
Thank you
Because Louis is not Black.. they aren’t even pronouncing his name right
That’s the one
Briana is so fricking annoying . Constantly harping to Devon about 💰. Louis needs to step up
Briana is the epitome of “there’s weakness in being the loudest”
In my opinion they should kick Brianna off teen mom 2 . She complained about money drama but she went to Disney cruise or Disneyworld . YO MTV KICK BRIANNA OFF THE SHOW PLEASE .
Thank you Taylor for stepping up because their son couldn’t. THATS A REAL DAD
Ryan’s parents being enablers as usual…
That’s right Taylor you are Bentley’s father👏🏾👏🏾
There is a difference between a dad and a father. Ryan is a father and Taylor is a dad to Bentley . A father is a man that just has a baby with a woman that doesn’t take care of that child. A dad loves , nurtures , has fun and does all the right this a loving man should do with his child.
@@amosmoses8402 no it’s the difference between a dad/father and a biological father.
@@ellexo0988 waaa! Wrong answer in my book! My daughter has a father and he’s not in her life. If he were in her life he would be her daddy and she would call him dad. She is now a teenager and prefers not to call him dad , but her “father.” A dad cares, loves , nurtures his child , not leaves and never calls or sends a birthday card in the mail. I never talked bad about him to her as I knew one day she would grow up a see for herself that he isn’t and wasn’t here for her and she knows that she doesn’t need him in her life on her own.
@@amosmoses8402 a father and dad aren’t that different lol. A biological father is the word you’re looking for. “Father” has so much more meaning. There’s a reason why people say we need good father figures.
@@ellexo0988 That’s your opinion and I respect that.
I can't stand Brianna sorry. Her way of speaking/screaming makes her look horrendous
Right like eww lol
This right here is the main reason why Ryan is not going to get sober. His parents are enablers and blaming everyone for his behavior and mistakes. Zero accountability.
brianna saying devoin does the “bare minimum” when he is a dad to both her daughters, one of which is not even his, is wild.
Bríonna NEVER SHUTS UP.
Devoin 😂 my dude! She just hates being wrong!!
Briana is the most immature mom on this show, she didn't even let him get 10 words in before she started attacking him and calling him a liar.
What does Briana want him to do pay her bills? That man is trying if I was chris I would put myself on child support. He might get lucky and pay less then 250 and what will her complaint be. He been paying 250 to you why are you making it seem like he ain't doing anything. Briana is a loud mouth with not bite.
I think that's what's going on. In Briana's mind, she believes that Devoin should be helping her with bills and he is not obligated to do this. She believes that he should be helping her with her bills because she is taking care of his daughter but he is not obligated to do that. There are many baby mamas out there like Briana who feel that it is the baby daddy's responsibility to take care of them too and its not. Their obligation is the child. Devoin is not obligated to pay Briana's bill. He does not live with her nor are they married so he is not obligated to help her with her bills. Briana is a grown ass woman. Her bills are her responsibility. Its not Devoin's fault that Briana is living in a house that she cannot afford to maintain.
@@darealveezy1267 Briana is always complaining that she has no money that all of her money went into the house but when the time comes for the reunion she is well dressed. She is decked out in designer brands. She's wearing Louboutins. Last reunion she had a whole Gucci belt that was probably someone's entire rent but she has no money. Last season she took a trip to Puerto Rico with her "secret bae" but she claims to have no money. I don't ever see any of the other Teen Moms wearing designer brands to the reunion. They come to the reunions looking pretty basic. Briana is the only one that shows up wearing designer brands. Kail wears jeans and sneakers. Leah might put on a nice top or dress but that's it. Briana comes dressed like she is attending a red carpet event.
@@RealTalk1411 yea its crazy! I really hope they drop her.
@@darealveezy1267 She's mad annoying. She didn't have to tell Devoin that he isn't a real man. So because he isn't giving you $20 000 dollars every month he isn't a real man. Devoin isn't a real man but he is the only stable male figure in your other daughter's life. Devoin is the only father Stella knows at this point. She doesn't even know Luis. Luis is a complete stranger to her.
Go Taylor! He had every right to tell Larry off.
I would love for Briana to actually articulate exactly what it is that she wants from Devoin. He pays child support, he picks up and drops Nova off at school, he has her on the weekends, and he would even take Stella too if Brianna allowed it. Yet she's constantly insulting him and telling him he doesn't do enough! What the heck else does she want??
She's emotionally immature. Shows her feelings but doesn't communicate what she wants ,reacts like a child when she doesn't get her way ,threatening legal action, withdrawing emotionally, giving the silent treatment
Brianna doesn't want to put him on child support. Because that's going to give him right to Nova. She won't be able to control that so she rather complain about it. Talk about it but there's a reason why she hasn't put him on child support. She likes that control it was the same thing with Stella's Dad. They start paying they automatically get rights and there's nothing she can do about it.
Sooo Luis can get away with actually doing THE bare minimum, but Devoin needs to do more? He does enough but it's never enough for YOU.
Bare minimum? He does absolutely nothing
@@SJones-Myself that is accurate af, he's a bum.
Oohh how much admiration I feel for Taylor and of course Maci 💜
Taylor told them how he feels too. Taylor has been there for Bentley since he was little. If Taylor wasn't putting Bentley first, he wouldn't be standing up for him on that stage. Love Taylor so much! He's amazing! What a great dad figure. That's a dad standing up for his son against a drug addict and his enablers. Period.
Jen and Larry are such enablers! Totally toxic..you can tell Larry was itchy to start a fight because they don't get their way, they should be ashamed of themselves. Smh
Taylor was like catch me outside how bout dat.
Is she complaining about money, and showing off her red bottoms?? 😂
Lol
Regardless of what she is wearing he is her daughters father and he should help her financially 💁🏽♀️
I mean, it doesn’t matter how much money she has. As a father, Devoin should also be financially caring for his child. However, she’s going extremely hard knowing his circumstances.
@@cecee_x3391 he said let’s get on child support lmao… that women just wants to complain and doesn’t want the father to have visitation rights BUT wants all the money, it doesn’t work like that… Brianna is SELFISH
@@KatelynnNicole8 GIRL because he said that you gonna actually believe him? 😂😂 yea ok sis
Good for taylor. Taylor is an incredible person. Maci ought to just go to court and get full custody of Bentley. Ryan can have visits and if he shows up fine if not forget him.
Omg Briana 🤦♀️! Her attitude! Atleast he does try.. What does louis do??
I know. Actually she told Luis that he doesn't have to help financially. Smhhh
@@Bee-lieve623 Yeah talking about just give your time. He does not give time or money to Stella but Devoin gives money for Nova and time to both Stella and Nova. Stella even said she prefers Devoin over Louis.
Jen and Larry blames everyone except for Ryan. Absolutely ridiculous. They should be ashamed of themselves and be grateful for the fact that Bentley has an amazing mother and stepfather.
Ew - I had the most respect for Jen and Larry when Macy was pregnant and just had Bentley. It seems like fame went to their head. Jen looks so fake in this interview. When Larry started to lose his cool, look at her face - she's shocked, then she immediately starts to 'tear' up.
I loved the Taylor stood up for Bentley - they do put this kid in situations where he's forced to be around Ryan. Taylor is more a father than Ryan ever was/is.
Shoutout to Taylor. It's abt time.
I think the way Ryan turned out tells us all we need to know abt their parenting skills.
I do not like BRIANNA anymore like Devon be there for HIS child & HER other child too let’s not forget ✍🏽 she need to be on LOUIS or whoever her other BD is tail like she always on Devon tail
Now I totally understand why Ryan ended being like he is. I mean look at how his parents acts
Jen and larry dont deserve a relationship with bentley
Taylor & Macy were and are absolutely right!
I know that’s right Taylor ! The dad was mad aggressive. You better stand beside your wife !! Respect is earned.
It makes me laugh that Amber tried to say Kristina is a horrible person. She literally raised your daughter, Amber. Get yourself on some different meds and get yourself in a good place, cause your recent activity towards your baby girl is absolutely horrible. If you ever want a chance of a mother daughter relationship in the future, you better figure out what you need to do, cause it's not on Leah. Gary and Kristina have done wonderful raising her.
Devion is taking care of HIS daughter and a bonus daughter like whaaaaaa?
Lol when did Devon actually be a real father to nova? Lol he wasn't really in her life for the first five years of her life
Jen and Larry are the biggest enablers ever. They think Ryan is an angel. They are so lucky they have someone to look after their grand kid properly because Ryan can't even look after himself
Wow Taylor really loves Bentley you can see the passion he has when he talks about him
If Brianna goes to court (which she won’t) for child support let’s be honest she will be the one to pay to Devoin because she makes way more money than he does!!!
Taylor is a REAL MAN and DAD!
taylor and maci were not wrong . taylor was 100% point on every single thing he said , he may be just a stepdad to bentley but he acts more like a dad then ryan does . jen and larry were not putting bentley first entire conversation , they were making excuses for their own son . and their trying to make maci the escape goat for all the issues . maci is certainly one lucky women to have taylor .
Ain’t no misunderstanding.. I can’t stand Dr. Drew… Taylor is right.. Larry and Jenn know they raised a aint shit son…
Taylor snapped. And this was classic narcissism. Get someone so so so mad that they snap, then act like they’re crazy. Taylor snapped and I don’t blame him for anything he did here.
Taylor is so right
She told him to shut up about 20 times lol.
Brianna is a true example why i tell my sons to be CAREFUL who they lay with !! Because if they get pregnant their gonna deal with a baby ro raise and a grown woman child for 18 yrs !
Taylor is so good with Bentley he a good step dad to him Ryan never cared about Bentley
Briana literally can’t control herself. She’s always a victim and brings up the past to be the victim. ALWAYS. When now it’s completely irrelevant to what Devion is doing now. Unfortunate.
Taylor is so right his kinda the first person to step up for Bentley
Taylor is the definition of a DAD blood or not
Maci did amazing raising Bently, and picking an amazing man by hers and Bentlys side!
Everyone just rolled their eyes at Amber lol.