I've taken several cars over 200,000 miles with nothing but Supertech oil, filters, gear oil, coolant and such... I've used them since the name was Tech 2000 with no issues. The key is regular service intervals...
I agree and have had great DIY success with Supertech oils and coolant. Regular maintenance is the key. Currently have over 257,000 on Expedition and 284,000 on Taurus.
The key is several things, regular maintenance, oil from any decent mfg and carrying the latest API rating, which now would be "SN" or "SN+", and a reasonable time/distance limit. I don't care if the oil costs $12 qt and is pure liquid magic. It's not going beyond 7500 miles or 1 year in my engine. A half century of driving, being a muscle car enthusiast and a DIY'er tells me that is enough. And Supertech and Supertech filters will take you there if you don't start imagining yourself going very long/high mileage drain intervals.
Rob B The main key is I dont trust anyones advice or answer and unless you break down that engine, youll never know the damage youve done because an engine doesnt whine until something breaks.
@@businesscritic5365 Within certain limits, I understand and agree with your p.o.v. In the early '70's, the best oils available were API "SF" rated. Ford recommended change intervals of 6K miles. Quaker State Super Blend 10W-30 (SF) was on sale frequently (loss leader)for 35 cents a qt. and filters were typically $3, so a change was about $5. I started out with 3K change intervals and eventually settled on 2K intervals with my '71 Mustang hotrod. In 1976, at 129K miles, I pulled the engine heads to replace the dried out, cracked and falling apart valve seals. While apart, I "miked" the valve stems and found them well inside of new production tolerances. Replacing the seals, the heads were in very good condition. Inside the cylinder bores in the block, where there should have been bore wear sufficient to leave a ridge at the bore tops, there was no ridge. That experience convinced me that a 2-3K change interval would lead to extremely long engine life. How long? Who knows? Certainly at least hundreds of thousands of miles. I drove that Mustang well into the 180K range before it was "totaled" from the rear around 1979/80. Never had an occasion to be back inside the engine. Oh, there was no sludge buildup inside that engine! Fast forward to today and a good number of API oil spec upgrades to, now, SN/SN+. No longer just conventional, we now have synthetic too. Been using synthetic in everything for 20 years, small engines, cars, trucks, etc. My change intervals have grown longer. I will accept 7500 miles or 6 months but that is because my driving remains very little city, stop and go, almost no dirt road driving, little idling, etc. Since retirement, my driving is typically 6000-7000 miles annually, split between 2 vehicles, a 2003 Trailblazer (222K miles)& a 2013 Challenger R/T 5.7L/6 speed manual/3.73 limited slip differential (11K miles). The longest interval it has experienced was 1 year/3800 miles. It's your vehicle, your money, your call, but unless you are trying to set a million mile record, you're wasting your money. At least consider 5000 miles, 5 months!
yes. i did this once when i was 15 and saw the leak. my friend did this at 35 and i was shocked. although at 18 i had a dodge truck come in and it had 3 stacked together on it and it did not leak. freak miracle.
Really? I had a professional shop have a gasket stick and they installed the new filter right over it. It pinched and leaked when at higher oil pressure, blowing all the oil out, eventually. The engine was ruined. (Ford Ecoboost). Fortunately, the shop took responsibility and their insurance covered a Ford factory remanufactured engine to the tune of around $11,000. Ouch. If I'd changed it myself, it would not have happened.
I've watched a few breakdowns and reviews of the supertech filter due to a concern about the low price. The gasket not being captured tightly does not bother me at all. I clean the metal surface anyway so there is zero chance that I'd leave the old gasket on and find it hard to believe that's a concern for anyone with any common sense. I like the combination of more flow holes and the plastic cage as that is clearly less restrictive than other designs. I like the thinner outer shell as the thicker ones just create more waste. Your points about the identical metal and caps and razor thin margins are valid. I've used these filters and supertech full synthetic oil on my crv for 160,000 miles and have inspected the filters and found them to have no issues. Yes, they are cheap, but I think they are actually very good products and they've performed really well on my Honda. Thanks for your breakdown.
SuperTech oil filters are manufactured by Champion who also makes STP and Mobil 1 oil filters. Champion Labs makes also makes OEM Motorcraft, OEM GM on some applications, AC, Valvoline, AutoZone oil filters. There are only a hand full of oil filter companies and each company makes several brands of oil filters.
This isn't an apples-to-apples comparaison! The Mobil 1 filter you use was top of the line, NOT where this Super Tech is! As for the Fram, you used an entry-level model, on par with Super Tech line-wise, but an older, not current, design. Comparing high-end Mobil 1 to the low-end Fram is unfair, you should have compared with Fram Ultra Synthetic.
If the gasket stays on your engine when you remove it that’s a person error not a filter error . You should always check to make sure the gasket came off
Wal-Mart oil and filtered a really good I worked at citgo petroleum bottling in Oklahoma city they bottled supertech,Harley davidson,Briggs and Stratton, mobil,and many house brands👌
If if they all come to the same place why even buy name brand. Just buy the Walmart brand and spend the savings on a nice filter...never understood why people are so attractive to brands like Mobile...they feel so offended when they hear Walmart oil is just as good as their mobile one but half the price.
I have been using Super Tech oils and oil filters on all my vehicles since Walmart comes to life and I never had an failure as of today 2020. Works as intend at an affordable price.
I've prett much used exclusively Supertech and Fram extra guard filters the entire life of a 1994 Chevrolet Suburban and it's still running smooth since 1994. But That's considered the beater car, but I have to say, this Supertech oil filter is of high quality.
Steven Sevek. I avoid any company that makes dangerous junk. If half of a companies products are garbage marketed as the best and a few are pretty good, how can you trust the company? Fuck Fram.
due to a thing called the magnuson-moss warranty act, your warranty must stay intact no matter what filter you use, if the auto manufacturer wants to blame your filter for a failure they would have to prove that it is the case. It is not legal for manufacturers to require you to use their house brand to maintain your warranty unless they supply the materials.
Yet they do that with ATF all the time and some even design the CVT so that only the dealership can easily service it. Nissans for example have a dip-stick tube but no dip-stick in it. They will not sell you a dip-stick and they will not sell one to your independent mechanic either. It's probably illegal but they are getting away with it so far.
@@christophervanzetta According to www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0138-auto-warranties-routine-maintenance "Do I have to use the dealer for repairs and maintenance to keep my warranty in effect? No. An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work. The manufacturer or dealer can, however, require consumers to use select repair facilities if the repair services are provided to consumers free of charge under the warranty. That said, there may be certain situations where a repair may not be covered. For example, if you or your mechanic replaced a belt improperly and your engine is damaged as a result, your manufacturer or dealer may deny responsibility for fixing the engine under the warranty. However, according to the FTC, the manufacturer or dealer must be able to demonstrate that it was the improper belt replacement - rather than some other defect - that caused the damage to your engine. The warranty would still be in effect for other parts of your car."
@@christophervanzetta If the manufacturer required you to use their filter to maintain the warranty then they would have to provide the filter for free. Any filter THAT MEET MANUFACTURERS SPECS CAN BE USED AND WILL NOT VOID WARRANTY
Laws are only good if you can enforce them and unfortunately you average Americans doesn’t have the means to sue a dealership for voiding warranty. Companies know this which is why they don’t care and it’s usually cheaper for them to pay out fines than too actually follow the law
This exact ST filter was $1.95 at my Walmart. It's a no-brainer. I worked with modern plastics in my first career and they're extraordinary. One of the major reasons the wonder material Graphene has struggled from a cost/performance standpoint are modern plastics that evolve continually. They've become wonder materials themselves. I have ZERO issues with it being used in a filter or most anything else that inst entering my body. Cheap modern plastics can easily outdo modern metals in temperature & tensile/flextural strength. Almost certainly this is PTFE which in various forms has been used by your grandfather or great grandfather in many ways since before WW2.
MAN!! Thank you for all the detail. It's also really cool how you segmented the video. You need to do a tutorial on THAT and make every UTuber in the world watch it!! LOL
My philosophy is to change pile and filter quite often compared to people who spend more and trust they can go super long intravals....I just feel better spending less but changing more often....has worked very well for me so far....
I have used Supertech, Fram, STP over the years. If you change your oil and filter every 3 to 4.5 months all will work ok even basic Fram. However, I currently have a BOSCH premium filter in one car and that oil after yes 8 months is still very clear and clean. Bosch is more expensive however.
The famous 95 MERC runs Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, 5-W-20; Bosch Premium Oil Filter # 3410; and a FILTERMAG #SS365PR Magnet Lit. Oil & Filter changes at 5,000 miles. The BOSCH # 3410 is reasonably priced. It's NOT cheap shit !!
My dad did that once and it all ran down our driveway into the street, and of course the nosy ass grumpy old lady a few doors down had to call the cops (she called the police for the stupidest reasons every chance she got probably just so she had somebody to talk to, they eventually stopped taking her calls lol) The cop who showed up was a badge heavy prick and came like 20 minutes after it was all cleaned up, but there was no reasoning with that guy. Pops had to pay a pretty hefty fine after that...
a, No shit? Your a fucking Genius! How do you get your divine wisdom? Please don’t tell me my local grocery store doesn’t make its own salad dressing! Lol
People come to you for a review or ADVICE because they don’t have a clue for themselves and just because you don’t give them the answer straight forward and bluntly they begin to leave you negative comments for babbling too much or whatever. I appreciate you taking the time to put this video together and Educate is on different filters and quality. For all you impatient ass people out there part of learning is listening. If your not willing to take a few minutes out of your (more important schedule than everyone else’s) then go the hell on somewhere with your impatient bullshit. Getting tired of seeing you perfect people blast everyone that is helping people out. What have you done to help someone lately??? Probably nothing because your to busy being impatient because the world is holding you back!
On my second oil change with a supertech filter. Did my last oil change at around 3500 miles and the oil didnt even look that dark. Must've filtered pretty good.
From what I have found supertech is now being made by the folks that make ACDelco. When it comes down to it, it is made by a company that makes oil filters already for another label and it doesn't have paper endcap on it so I'm ok with it
If you live in northern cold climates, and start your vehicle in the cold, i have noticed the plastic support tube can fail and i typically stay away from them. They can break in extreme cold temperatures when the oil is thick and the plastic is brittle, allowing the filter to collapse, and the plastic pieces to enter the oil galleries. The cheap frams are no better the filter media tears off the cardboard end caps. I have been using wix filters for years, mostly the xp version. I have however came across 2 separate instances in our recent -40c cold snap where the wix xp filters appeared to have leaked at the case seem. This has motivated me to revisit my filter of choice and even consider the fram ultra synthetic. Until i find a quality replacement within my budget it will however still be xp's for me, for now.
@@SlikLizrd We did experience a string of broken oil filter cartriges in both mercedes and gm ecotec engines due to the collapse of the center support of the filter, this was a few years ago now. The failures always seemed to follow heavy cold during the winter, and it was a pain to have to pick all the plastic out of the oil feed from the filter housings when the filters really broke up badly. Had some long term engine failures as well, which no one could prove but i figure it had to do with the crappy platistic center support oil filters failing so badly. Eventually so much fuss was made about it we switched from the cheapo napa filter line to whatever was a more premium and available filter, sometimes we even ordered oem to avoid the problem. I dont recall having much trouble after that. I could not say exactly what the core material was/is made of i aint no smancy enginenerd, however if i had to guess some kind of cheap thermoplastic, maybe PP or PBT. Early examples apeared to not have any GF re-enforcement in them, they were just cheap thermoplastic which really didnt do well with all the thermocycling and heavy load from engine oil pressure bearing down on the filter media. The later and higher end filters that still had plastic cores Did/do appear to be some kind PA6 or other nylon with glass fiber re-enforcement as you could see the swirls in the plastic. Personally after seeing all the ones i saw broken however, i just stay away from any plastic cored filters and go with metal whenever possible.
These filters are great for the money. I would just follow the change intervals what the owners Manuel say. I do 3500 oil changes on my car and never had a problem.
I've used super tech oil and filters for years. I always get two filters and change the filter 2-3000 miles and get 5k off of one oil change and that's with their regular oil
Just a data point from someone who knows, this model of supertech filter is made by champion filters. They had a drop in quality when Walmart changed oil filter manufacturers back in early 2018
Yes I stamp metal as a toolmaker , 30 years, that is a manufacturer engineered ID stamp, that identifies the Die that that plate came from so if there is a large rejection they can track down the mfg. Tooling it came from to pull it from production and make the appropriate repairs and revisions
The answer is, the $5-6 Fram filters you buy are really $1.50 oil filters with $4-5 markup. Supertech filters are sold near cost of manufacture. Cheap filters, cheap price. I prefer to spend $6-7 and get a filter that's actually worth $6-7: Bosch Premium.
YES !! The BOSCH Premium Oil Filter performs perfectly in the famous 95 MERC's V-8 engine -- I like the Silicone ADBV, the Spiral-wound Metal Core, the large media area, and, ESPECIALLY the 20-Micron rating. I change oil & filters at 5,000-mile intervals.
SuperTech oil filters are made in the USA by Champion Labs. They are manufactured in six different states through the collaboration of Wix and Walmart.
I've used Walmart oil brand just a little more than 8 years now. Never had any motor failure and that is including my 2005 STI, 86 Caprice V8, 2013 Impala, 2004 MDX with over 150k, 92 celica and 2012 Kia soul. Guess what filter brand I use??? I trust the Walmart filter over fram. I had chunks of paper once in my Caprice and that did it for me!!! I used Mobile and Delco filters but than moved to Supertech, cheaper and it simply works!
thanks for doing that video...i liked it and i think you did an excellent job. i appreciate that you conducted it in an unbiased / independent and professional manner. please do a comparison of OEM Harley and Indian Oil filters vs Supertech. i think it would be very interesting...there are a lot of Big Twin motorcycle owners out there who would really appreciate it.
That center tube (we call them cores) is strong enough I can tell you that. I make these filters and may have actually made that element (part with the paper and plastic tube) although I don't think so. The inkblot is in the wrong place. If I stand on a metal core laid on its side it will crush. The same with the plastic core (we call them cores not center tubes). I weigh 175 pounds and can stand on the plastic core if it is standing upright and it will not crush. I do not know how much it will actually hold but it is above 2oo pounds. The caps are identical and are fed from the same hopper. The paper, core and endcaps are bonded together with a hotmelt glue and it is very very strong.
There have been reports lately of Mobile one getting sloppy with their glue inside the filter media area and also some reports of sticking bypass springs/valves that are causing cold starts to be oil deprived I’ve stopped using them after I read the report.
@9:00 that's a E Core ,it's technically a GM designed part that's used in Delco filters, & used in many other filters including SuperTech that are built by Champ Labs
My 2002 dodge ram has 256'000 miles on the odometer. I have run super tech oil and filters since it's first oil change. It still runs as goid today as when i bought it new. I change my oil every 3 to 4 thousand miles. Good enough for me.
With full synthetic motor oil you can go up to at least7000 miles now the oil filter it all depends upon what you get which brand the fram ultra is a good won the STP maximum life is good the super tech one is not bad the mobile one is good the Purolator boss is good
I'm lucky if I do 3000 in 6 months as I dont drive much other than to work and Home Depot/Grocery Store. My trucks maintenance in the manual says 5000 between changes but gets changed WAY more often than that.
Luckily all the oil filters you have fit my Honda Civic and I actually love this current Supertech oil filter. It's cheap and I do relatively short oil change intervals and I would imagine this has good flow. I am going to stock up on these Supertech oil filters.
Don't care if it was a Louis Vuitton oil filter, you always check that the gasket came off with the filter. Another thing is you are comparing a top line extended performance filter to a regular filter. Why not use a regular mobile 1 filter
FRAM is the worst filter to buy ..WIX filter are better I worked for a auto parts warehouse for 17 years and we had no trouble cone back on the filters
Dan, the Supertechs have two styles. One with the PAPER end-caps like the orange can of death, and the metal. You can tell the difference BEFORE you buy when at the store, so open the package and see the end of the filter that screws onto the car. If it looks like there's a REALLY THIN EXTRA layer of flat metal then that's the paper end-cap culprit! WHY??? I was considering buying these filters for my old f-150 but not now. I'll just stick with napa gold or motorcraft if I was going to cheap out. I can't find the efficiency/micron rating on the motorcraft.
Funny thing is, Walmart's TLE, or tire, lube express, does NOT use supertec in the shop. They use stock Fram filters. That speaks volumes as to what Walmart thinks of their own brand of filters. If you want a filter other then a stock Fram, you have to request one at the time you take it in for the oil change. Otherwise, you get a POS Fram filter....
Walmart super tech filters are basically a slightly reworked Wixx,,, Walmart had a deal with Wixx for a little while to make super tech filters however Walmart was studying them when they learned all they could know about making oil filters they struck out on their own with champion laboratories and that’s the Supertek filter you’re getting today from Walmart,,, if they were bad filters they wouldn’t be selling them anymore because they sell millions and millions of those filters a lot of people use them and I’m one of them I’ve never had a problem with one,,,I also use their OW 20 synthetic oil and some of their Dino oil conventional including two-stroke and 10w30 and 5w30 and Straight 30 never had any trouble with the house brands at Walmart,,, i’ve also used their equivalent to WD 40 and brake parts cleaner and carburetor cleaner and brake fluid and antifreeze and transmission and power steering fluid‘s gear oil‘s grease never one single problem and the price is always right
Exact filter for my car, good to see this review. Gona get the filter and oil and change the oil for the 1st time on my 2012 optima.. Changed it all the time on my truck but my car is "new" and always took it to get done and then i am releasing my car is gona be 8 years old and its time to start DIYing it again like my truck.
Thank you for another great video👍. In regards to the plastic center tube im sure your aware of how strong plastic is when it’s in a circular or circle shape and I to would think that the super tech would have better oil flow because of the numerous and larger openings in the plastic center. For its intended usage it’s probably fine. I used a super tech oil filter many years ago and when it was time for the oil change I hard a very hard time getting the filter off. Since than I have never used one again. Also on this last oil change i used the fram ultra on my wife’s car and the tough guard on my truck, for the first time in many years I decided to give them a try again. So far so good👍, years ago all I would use is fram and never thought anything about it lol.
Hi well I jusy used 1 on a jeep 4.0 and the filter was defective had a small cut on side due to the pressing of the top then painted so couldn't see put on filled jeep with synthetic primed mtr and pulled out to change oil in Durango just to see a trail of fluid pulled off went to Walmart showed manager he gave me a replacement and a quart of syn Castrol .. 1st filter to do that in my 35yrs of owning rides ...
I've come to the conclusion that cutting open filters doesn't add a ton in evaluating performance or reliability. You need to perform actual tests with oil and stress tests like a lab or manufacturer would.
I agree. The bottom line is ... 1. Which filter filters the best 2. Which filter maintains a healthy flow rate the best. These visual comparisons are a total waste of time.
I would like to know if the plastic inner tube of an oil filter doesn't weaken and deform under operational stress and temperature. Thank you for your clarity and on-point analysis of your presentations.
No it does not. I run 1 of the 3 machines that make the element (paper with the metal endcap piece). I may have actually made that element although I don't think so due to the position of the inkblot. If I stand on a metal core laid on its side it will crush. The same with the plastic core (we call them cores not center tubes). I weigh 175 pounds and can stand on the plastic core if it is standing upright and it will not crush. I know because when they drop out of the machine I have to sweep them up and I crush them under foot to make them sweep easier. If they are upright I have to knock them over to crush them. The endcaps are attached to the paper with a hotmelt glue poured into the endcap. This glue is at 430 degrees and I have never seen a core melt when put into the hotmelt.
The end cap material is cellulose, and microglass. Its technically stronger than the filter media which is primarily cellulose but can conform to the same degree. Also from a design standpoint its better, when under pressure it will more or less flex/give to the same degree as the filter media. Metal end caps are nice to look at but they are much stronger, resulting in the filter tearing under high pressure. It puts more stress on the weakest part of every filter. I do get though folks like it, from a tear down point of view it looks higher quality but it has its own downsides. This is why most synthetic filters are multilayered, and generally include wire backing. It makes up for the structural load a metal end cap will place on them.
My filter philosophy: oem filters through the warranty period. Thereafter Supertech full-syn/Kirkland full syn and Supertech/Napa/Purolator/Wix/Bosch filters. 5,000 mile oil changes.... I would choose one brand and use if thereafter, your change of getting reimbursed if a fold of filter paper breaks loose and ends up stuck in a piston ring are much better if you don't give the filter maker room to claim it was some other brand of filer.
What I hate about the Supertechs is the gaskets swell up so bad you have a hell of a time getting it off without crushing the case. And that after being careful not tightening too much. Thin cases too.
I have a 96 Olds 88 with a 3800 V6. Car has 150,000. Runs like a clock. I change my oil and filter every 3,000 miles. I use Master Tech Synthetic High Mileage oil and a cheap ass Master Tech filter. Never had a problem yet. Your right about that O ring. I always look up there to make sure the old oil filter ring isn't left on the engine.
BE ADVISED - I just bought and cut open a SuperTech ST10575. It has cardboard end caps! Also NO pressure relief valve in the leaf spring. The AC Delco equivalent (PF63) DOES have a PRV! Buyer Beware
Yes sir. I was very surprised myself. All other filters for my application have the PRV, but not the SuperTech. For fun, I’ve ordered an AC Delco UPF63R that will be dissected also. Just can’t understand that SuperTech.
I changed my oil on my 19 Silverado The oil filter that came with the truck is not the same acdelco pf63e that’s on shelves in Walmart. From the chevy dealer, the oil filter has the By-Pass spring you can visually see looking into the filter. I would purchase acdelco filters from dealer
I used to buy these Supertech filters for my 2000 Explorer, up until I bought one and it was the new design and extremely small compared to the Motorcraft for $1 more. I wasn't impressed and returned it immediately, considering the Motorcraft is smaller than it was 15 years ago.
I’ve had 2 engine failures with Fram oil filters. Super Tech is not owned by Walmart. Super Tech tear apart tests were done years ago and they beat out most of the oil filter brands.
=Little grease on the gasket to stick it on during assembly. =A few cheap NEO MAGNETS on the end of the can will remove ferris particles from zero to 20 microns [super bad] also... =good for hanging tools up on box, fridge, &c. =Hold a handful of screws together. = fun to play w/. Nice vid man. Best at ~1.5X playback speed.
I just read that Wal-Mart bought Wix manufacturing facility to make the Super Tech filters. That doesn't make it a Wix by any means, but it's still better than a Fram. I personally prefer Purolator Plus filters, but will use a Wix or NAPA Gold as well.
Walmart don't make there own filters or lubricant like most company's they have a major manufacturer does this they themselves engineer these products I believe they just sell them under their name
Mobil 1 Oil filter with rebate is only cost $5. Then the difference is $1. Why do I have to choose this oil filter? Or PurolatorOne cost around $6. I just need to pay $2 extra. It is too cheap to upgrade to better one.
Tearing them apart and looking at them and showing all the different components is really cool however that doesn’t really show us if the filter does it’s job and which one removes more contaminants over a long period of time that’s the test we need someone to run on these filters so we’ll know conclusively I would say run several different filters with the same oil in the same car and send everyone of them to Blackstone for an oil analysis then you’ll know what you got,,, hint hint anyone out there interested I would be glad to watch your video
I've been using Fram filters for years and if I knew that they were made of cardboard I would not have, but the Supertech filter that I saw in another video had a coil spring.
Steven, all full flow engine filters have end caps. Some are cartridge types for putting into a housing, and some have a "can" made over the cartridge and have threads... which is then called a spin-on filter.
@@tarquineous They all have end caps, do they? Some have nothing but glue sealing the ends of the pleated media. I don't call that an end cap. Some have cardboard*, plastic, or metal end caps but they all have to be glued. The glue is what seals the ends of the filter media. The end caps are unnecessary. If they were necessary then the OEM filter would have them. I do change my own oil and filter, and I've been doing so for 66 years, and you think I don't know? Wow! parts.olathetoyota.com/oem-parts/toyota-oil-filter-04152yzza1 *Actually the end caps on the base Fram filters are not cardboard regardless if that's what it looks like. Fram does NOT use cardboard endcaps but resin impregnated endcaps which are arguably better than metal end caps which are harder to bond to a paper filter media. And even the OEM Toyota spin-on filter has no end caps... th-cam.com/video/pMYILSpFCA4/w-d-xo.html
The rule of thumb is, keep your oil change regularly and not wait until 10k or more in most cases. You can used any filter. It’s all about marketing and perception most people think… oh expensive always good. If you can makes 3x oil changes compare to 1x oil change with expensive filter.
Quite good overall. You just put the gasket upside down when you put it back on the filter. The only problem with this is that looks like it has beveled surface, which it does not.
When you use Amsoil products as prescribed it is the least expensive that can be found for what it does. Google for a local dealer near you. Advance may have them, Bumper to bumper, some NAPA
An old airplane trick is to use copper anti seize on the gasket and thread. Comes off as easy as it goes on. FYI .....ALL Fram filters are silicone rubber. Filters meet warranty requirements.
Talk to most mechanics that have 30+ years in the business which includes oil changes and/or engine rebuilds. As them what is the most common oil filter brand which they see fail and result in engine destruction.
FilterKingz thanks for doing some Updates on the filter for SuperTech. I always Run conventional Oil on these Filter and Every 5K do my usual oil change. Im gonna Run Synthetic Next Time. I will try SuperTech Oil Synthetic High Mileage.
figured fram made them for having the same part number, but i wouldn't trust either for 10K miles. toyota genuine is 2 bucks more (if you don't buy it at walmart, and their limited selection of toyota filters doesn't include mine anyway). supertech is good enough for 4 bucks / 5K miles / now
I can aprove I’ve been using fram and supertech oil filters on my 2000 civic ex for a while n I’ve had no problems till this day 👍🏼 I prefer supertech because I love a little challenge in taking the filter off since it has no grip , but I switch it up to fram whenever I want to get a good grip n not struggle I know I knoe it’s weird but idc I love working on my cars ...oh! N I use supertech 10w-30 👍🏼 no problems as Well....
I do understand what are you trying to say👍👍But for me I'm thankful on this company for selling their brand cheaper than the other brands and help us save at least a fraction of the price.Ive been using Super Tech oil and filters last year and I see no issues switching from mobil 1 synthetic, replacing my oil every 3000 miles without any issues thats it! Thanks SuperTech and I hope you don't increase and continue helping people like us on the tight budget specially this pandemic...👍👍🤟🤟👌👌Stay Safe Out There...
personally until I seen thse camparative issues ,I was surprised to see that a brand I thought was one of the best used cardboard end caps instead of metal
I've taken several cars over 200,000 miles with nothing but Supertech oil, filters, gear oil, coolant and such...
I've used them since the name was Tech 2000 with no issues. The key is regular service intervals...
I agree and have had great DIY success with Supertech oils and coolant. Regular maintenance is the key. Currently have over 257,000 on Expedition and 284,000 on Taurus.
The key is several things, regular maintenance, oil from any decent mfg and carrying the latest API rating, which now would be "SN" or "SN+", and a reasonable time/distance limit. I don't care if the oil costs $12 qt and is pure liquid magic. It's not going beyond 7500 miles or 1 year in my engine. A half century of driving, being a muscle car enthusiast and a DIY'er tells me that is enough. And Supertech and Supertech filters will take you there if you don't start imagining yourself going very long/high mileage drain intervals.
Rob B The main key is I dont trust anyones advice or answer and unless you break down that engine, youll never know the damage youve done because an engine doesnt whine until something breaks.
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Ok, so what oil change interval do you adhere to and is it ST or?
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Within certain limits, I understand and agree with your p.o.v. In the early '70's, the best oils available were API "SF" rated. Ford recommended change intervals of 6K miles. Quaker State Super Blend 10W-30 (SF) was on sale frequently (loss leader)for 35 cents a qt. and filters were typically $3, so a change was about $5. I started out with 3K change intervals and eventually settled on 2K intervals with my '71 Mustang
hotrod. In 1976, at 129K miles, I pulled the engine heads to replace the dried out, cracked and falling apart valve seals. While apart, I "miked" the valve stems and found them well inside of new production tolerances. Replacing the seals, the heads were in very good condition. Inside the cylinder bores in the block, where there should have been bore wear sufficient to leave a ridge at the bore tops, there was no ridge. That experience convinced me that a 2-3K change interval would lead to extremely long engine life. How long? Who knows? Certainly at least hundreds of thousands of miles. I drove that Mustang well into the 180K range before it was "totaled" from the rear around 1979/80. Never had an occasion to be back inside the engine. Oh, there was no sludge buildup inside that engine! Fast forward to today and a good number of API oil spec upgrades to, now, SN/SN+. No longer just conventional, we now have synthetic too. Been using synthetic in everything for 20 years, small
engines, cars, trucks, etc. My change intervals have grown longer. I will accept 7500 miles or 6 months but that is because my driving remains very little city, stop and go, almost no dirt road driving, little idling, etc. Since retirement, my driving is typically 6000-7000 miles annually, split between 2 vehicles, a 2003 Trailblazer (222K miles)& a 2013 Challenger R/T 5.7L/6 speed manual/3.73 limited slip differential (11K miles). The longest interval it has experienced was 1 year/3800 miles.
It's your vehicle, your money, your call, but unless you are trying to set a million mile record, you're wasting your money. At least consider 5000 miles, 5 months!
If you don't check to see if the gasket is on the filter when you remove it tou have no business changing your own oil
LOL That's true. Good point!
yes. i did this once when i was 15 and saw the leak. my friend did this at 35 and i was shocked. although at 18 i had a dodge truck come in and it had 3 stacked together on it and it did not leak. freak miracle.
Amen.
Really? I had a professional shop have a gasket stick and they installed the new filter right over it. It pinched and leaked when at higher oil pressure, blowing all the oil out, eventually. The engine was ruined. (Ford Ecoboost). Fortunately, the shop took responsibility and their insurance covered a Ford factory remanufactured engine to the tune of around $11,000. Ouch. If I'd changed it myself, it would not have happened.
Yeah I always check for that regardless
I've watched a few breakdowns and reviews of the supertech filter due to a concern about the low price. The gasket not being captured tightly does not bother me at all. I clean the metal surface anyway so there is zero chance that I'd leave the old gasket on and find it hard to believe that's a concern for anyone with any common sense. I like the combination of more flow holes and the plastic cage as that is clearly less restrictive than other designs. I like the thinner outer shell as the thicker ones just create more waste.
Your points about the identical metal and caps and razor thin margins are valid.
I've used these filters and supertech full synthetic oil on my crv for 160,000 miles and have inspected the filters and found them to have no issues. Yes, they are cheap, but I think they are actually very good products and they've performed really well on my Honda.
Thanks for your breakdown.
SuperTech oil filters are manufactured by Champion who also makes STP and Mobil 1 oil filters. Champion Labs makes also makes OEM Motorcraft, OEM GM on some applications, AC, Valvoline, AutoZone oil filters. There are only a hand full of oil filter companies and each company makes several brands of oil filters.
The Walmart filter is still better than a Fram.
@Steve Silvas true but it depends what you have i guess. my toyo at 299 thousand miles hasn't complained yet.
This isn't an apples-to-apples comparaison! The Mobil 1 filter you use was top of the line, NOT where this Super Tech is! As for the Fram, you used an entry-level model, on par with Super Tech line-wise, but an older, not current, design. Comparing high-end Mobil 1 to the low-end Fram is unfair, you should have compared with Fram Ultra Synthetic.
@Steve Silvas You sure??? Watch this: th-cam.com/video/Auu95lU4P1Q/w-d-xo.html
Which model of Fram Sherri ?
Check out the Fram UltraGard !
If the gasket stays on your engine when you remove it that’s a person error not a filter error . You should always check to make sure the gasket came off
Well said. Sloppy work is no excuse and shouldn't effect ones view of the product.
Wal-Mart oil and filtered a really good I worked at citgo petroleum bottling in Oklahoma city they bottled supertech,Harley davidson,Briggs and Stratton, mobil,and many house brands👌
If if they all come to the same place why even buy name brand. Just buy the Walmart brand and spend the savings on a nice filter...never understood why people are so attractive to brands like Mobile...they feel so offended when they hear Walmart oil is just as good as their mobile one but half the price.
@@lorenfok1097 Because they are not FORMULATED the same ;)
Marketing
I have been using Super Tech oils and oil filters on all my vehicles since Walmart comes to life and I never had an failure as of today 2020. Works as intend at an affordable price.
SuperTech, just basically a basic AC Delco oil filter, both are built in the same factory 🏭& use the same blue Delco paint as well
94 Ranger 250k miles use Supertech filters and oil still passes emissions no problem
Yes with regular oil changes super tech is perfectly good oil
Oil is made by Warren Oil the largest independent oil co in north America.
Filters are Champion.
@@hotrodray6802 Same with Costco (Kirkland Signature) oil
I've used ST every now and then. I can say they are decent filters. I change my oil every 5k miles and haven't had any issues with them
Cool
I've prett much used exclusively Supertech and Fram extra guard filters the entire life of a 1994 Chevrolet Suburban and it's still running smooth since 1994. But That's considered the beater car, but I have to say, this Supertech oil filter is of high quality.
The only thing Fram has going for it is the grip coating !
And that's the truth
That and my dad's dad used Fram type of people is the bulk of people who shop at Walmart
How can you possibly make such a statement without saying which Fram filter you are referring to. THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME.
Agreed!!!!!!
Steven Sevek. I avoid any company that makes dangerous junk. If half of a companies products are garbage marketed as the best and a few are pretty good, how can you trust the company? Fuck Fram.
due to a thing called the magnuson-moss warranty act, your warranty must stay intact no matter what filter you use, if the auto manufacturer wants to blame your filter for a failure they would have to prove that it is the case. It is not legal for manufacturers to require you to use their house brand to maintain your warranty unless they supply the materials.
That's not true. Read the warranty. Deviating outside of oem products COULD void your warranty. Depending on the warranty though. Read the act
Yet they do that with ATF all the time and some even design the CVT so that only the dealership can easily service it. Nissans for example have a dip-stick tube but no dip-stick in it. They will not sell you a dip-stick and they will not sell one to your independent mechanic either. It's probably illegal but they are getting away with it so far.
@@christophervanzetta
According to www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0138-auto-warranties-routine-maintenance
"Do I have to use the dealer for repairs and maintenance to keep my warranty in effect?
No. An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work. The manufacturer or dealer can, however, require consumers to use select repair facilities if the repair services are provided to consumers free of charge under the warranty.
That said, there may be certain situations where a repair may not be covered. For example, if you or your mechanic replaced a belt improperly and your engine is damaged as a result, your manufacturer or dealer may deny responsibility for fixing the engine under the warranty. However, according to the FTC, the manufacturer or dealer must be able to demonstrate that it was the improper belt replacement - rather than some other defect - that caused the damage to your engine. The warranty would still be in effect for other parts of your car."
@@christophervanzetta If the manufacturer required you to use their filter to maintain the warranty then they would have to provide the filter for free. Any filter THAT MEET MANUFACTURERS SPECS CAN BE USED AND WILL NOT VOID WARRANTY
Laws are only good if you can enforce them and unfortunately you average Americans doesn’t have the means to sue a dealership for voiding warranty. Companies know this which is why they don’t care and it’s usually cheaper for them to pay out fines than too actually follow the law
This exact ST filter was $1.95 at my Walmart. It's a no-brainer. I worked with modern plastics in my first career and they're extraordinary. One of the major reasons the wonder material Graphene has struggled from a cost/performance standpoint are modern plastics that evolve continually. They've become wonder materials themselves. I have ZERO issues with it being used in a filter or most anything else that inst entering my body. Cheap modern plastics can easily outdo modern metals in temperature & tensile/flextural strength. Almost certainly this is PTFE which in various forms has been used by your grandfather or great grandfather in many ways since before WW2.
He goes into so much trivial minutia, I actually fell asleep!
Tell me about it! Im like GET TO THE DAMN POINT!
This is great. I watch this when i have trouble sleeping.
I like it...just bit long winded.
Loose gasket shouldn't be a problem, if you're careful when you install it, it's not going anywhere after it's mounted.
Used KMart oil and filters back in the 70"s for 13 years, no oil related problems..............
K- Mart motorvator were pretty decent products !!
MAN!! Thank you for all the detail. It's also really cool how you segmented the video. You need to do a tutorial on THAT and make every UTuber in the world watch it!! LOL
My philosophy is to change pile and filter quite often compared to people who spend more and trust they can go super long intravals....I just feel better spending less but changing more often....has worked very well for me so far....
I have used Supertech, Fram, STP over the years. If you change your oil and filter every 3 to 4.5 months all will work ok even basic Fram. However, I currently have a BOSCH premium filter in one car and that oil after yes 8 months is still very clear and clean. Bosch is more expensive however.
The famous 95 MERC runs Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, 5-W-20; Bosch Premium Oil Filter # 3410; and a FILTERMAG #SS365PR Magnet Lit. Oil & Filter changes at 5,000 miles.
The BOSCH # 3410 is reasonably priced. It's NOT cheap shit !!
The o ring sticking is a hard lesson learned when I was a teenager. 4 quarts of oil sprayed out in seconds
did a double oring on a bus 20 plus all over the floor worst part besides cleaning it up is getting my balls broke all day haha
My dad did that once and it all ran down our driveway into the street, and of course the nosy ass grumpy old lady a few doors down had to call the cops (she called the police for the stupidest reasons every chance she got probably just so she had somebody to talk to, they eventually stopped taking her calls lol) The cop who showed up was a badge heavy prick and came like 20 minutes after it was all cleaned up, but there was no reasoning with that guy. Pops had to pay a pretty hefty fine after that...
Learned early-on to always put a thin film of fresh oil on the gasket. Never have had an issue...
supertech doesn't "make" or design anything, no? they're just rebranded products from various manufacturers afaik.
a, No shit? Your a fucking Genius! How do you get your divine wisdom? Please don’t tell me my local grocery store doesn’t make its own salad dressing! Lol
Lmfaooooo
Coastal is the rebrand. Just so everyone knows. Lol
People come to you for a review or ADVICE because they don’t have a clue for themselves and just because you don’t give them the answer straight forward and bluntly they begin to leave you negative comments for babbling too much or whatever. I appreciate you taking the time to put this video together and Educate is on different filters and quality. For all you impatient ass people out there part of learning is listening. If your not willing to take a few minutes out of your (more important schedule than everyone else’s) then go the hell on somewhere with your impatient bullshit. Getting tired of seeing you perfect people blast everyone that is helping people out. What have you done to help someone lately??? Probably nothing because your to busy being impatient because the world is holding you back!
I agree, to long winded. Fell asleep, woke up and your still talking.
Just play-back at 1.5x.
Falling asleep... added bonus. Many people in modern society have trouble sleeping.
This guy is just the opposite,,,, th-cam.com/video/zwqt5vI0o1A/w-d-xo.html
At least he’s not stopping every 2 minutes to mention sponsorships
He's technical and informative. Obviously you're looking for a tiktok video.
On my second oil change with a supertech filter. Did my last oil change at around 3500 miles and the oil didnt even look that dark. Must've filtered pretty good.
I use supertech oil & filter. No problems
From what I have found supertech is now being made by the folks that make ACDelco. When it comes down to it, it is made by a company that makes oil filters already for another label and it doesn't have paper endcap on it so I'm ok with it
yes CHAMPION
If you live in northern cold climates, and start your vehicle in the cold, i have noticed the plastic support tube can fail and i typically stay away from them. They can break in extreme cold temperatures when the oil is thick and the plastic is brittle, allowing the filter to collapse, and the plastic pieces to enter the oil galleries. The cheap frams are no better the filter media tears off the cardboard end caps. I have been using wix filters for years, mostly the xp version. I have however came across 2 separate instances in our recent -40c cold snap where the wix xp filters appeared to have leaked at the case seem. This has motivated me to revisit my filter of choice and even consider the fram ultra synthetic. Until i find a quality replacement within my budget it will however still be xp's for me, for now.
Have you actually SEEN a plastic center tube (core) that was broken by cold oil !??
Do you know the NAME of the material that the core is made from ?
@@SlikLizrd We did experience a string of broken oil filter cartriges in both mercedes and gm ecotec engines due to the collapse of the center support of the filter, this was a few years ago now. The failures always seemed to follow heavy cold during the winter, and it was a pain to have to pick all the plastic out of the oil feed from the filter housings when the filters really broke up badly. Had some long term engine failures as well, which no one could prove but i figure it had to do with the crappy platistic center support oil filters failing so badly. Eventually so much fuss was made about it we switched from the cheapo napa filter line to whatever was a more premium and available filter, sometimes we even ordered oem to avoid the problem. I dont recall having much trouble after that. I could not say exactly what the core material was/is made of i aint no smancy enginenerd, however if i had to guess some kind of cheap thermoplastic, maybe PP or PBT. Early examples apeared to not have any GF re-enforcement in them, they were just cheap thermoplastic which really didnt do well with all the thermocycling and heavy load from engine oil pressure bearing down on the filter media. The later and higher end filters that still had plastic cores Did/do appear to be some kind PA6 or other nylon with glass fiber re-enforcement as you could see the swirls in the plastic. Personally after seeing all the ones i saw broken however, i just stay away from any plastic cored filters and go with metal whenever possible.
These filters are great for the money. I would just follow the change intervals what the owners Manuel say. I do 3500 oil changes on my car and never had a problem.
I've used super tech oil and filters for years. I always get two filters and change the filter 2-3000 miles and get 5k off of one oil change and that's with their regular oil
Just a data point from someone who knows, this model of supertech filter is made by champion filters. They had a drop in quality when Walmart changed oil filter manufacturers back in early 2018
Yes I stamp metal as a toolmaker , 30 years, that is a manufacturer engineered ID stamp, that identifies the Die that that plate came from so if there is a large rejection they can track down the mfg. Tooling it came from to pull it from production and make the appropriate repairs and revisions
The filters are made by Champion under the SuperTech brand.
The answer is, the $5-6 Fram filters you buy are really $1.50 oil filters with $4-5 markup. Supertech filters are sold near cost of manufacture. Cheap filters, cheap price. I prefer to spend $6-7 and get a filter that's actually worth $6-7: Bosch Premium.
YES !! The BOSCH Premium Oil Filter performs perfectly in the famous 95 MERC's V-8 engine -- I like the Silicone ADBV, the Spiral-wound Metal Core, the large media area, and, ESPECIALLY the 20-Micron rating.
I change oil & filters at 5,000-mile intervals.
@@SlikLizrd
That engine will last forever. 👍🏻
The Super Tech is made by Champ Labs (Champion) its basically an AC Delco!
SuperTech oil filters are made in the USA by Champion Labs. They are manufactured in six different states through the collaboration of Wix and Walmart.
Watch project farm test Walmart super tech synthetic oil,,,Very interesting test
So, the Walmart filter flows better than a Mobile 1. It has steel ends and cost less than 3 bucks. What a deal!
I just bought a mobil1 and it looks identical to the supertech filter on the outside.
I've used Walmart oil brand just a little more than 8 years now. Never had any motor failure and that is including my 2005 STI, 86 Caprice V8, 2013 Impala, 2004 MDX with over 150k, 92 celica and 2012 Kia soul. Guess what filter brand I use??? I trust the Walmart filter over fram. I had chunks of paper once in my Caprice and that did it for me!!! I used Mobile and Delco filters but than moved to Supertech, cheaper and it simply works!
thanks for doing that video...i liked it and i think you did an excellent job. i appreciate that you conducted it in an unbiased / independent and professional manner. please do a comparison of OEM Harley and Indian Oil filters vs Supertech. i think it would be very interesting...there are a lot of Big Twin motorcycle owners out there who would really appreciate it.
Supertec filters work great on lawn mower engines! St3614!
That center tube (we call them cores) is strong enough I can tell you that. I make these filters and may have actually made that element (part with the paper and plastic tube) although I don't think so. The inkblot is in the wrong place. If I stand on a metal core laid on its side it will crush. The same with the plastic core (we call them cores not center tubes). I weigh 175 pounds and can stand on the plastic core if it is standing upright and it will not crush. I do not know how much it will actually hold but it is above 2oo pounds. The caps are identical and are fed from the same hopper. The paper, core and endcaps are bonded together with a hotmelt glue and it is very very strong.
Thanks for the insight.
Do you KNOW what material is used in molding the core !??
It LOOKS LIKE a fiberglas-filled plastic, such as Nylon.
There have been reports lately of Mobile one getting sloppy with their glue inside the filter media area and also some reports of sticking bypass springs/valves that are causing cold starts to be oil deprived I’ve stopped using them after I read the report.
@9:00 that's a E Core ,it's technically a GM designed part that's used in Delco filters, & used in many other filters including SuperTech that are built by Champ Labs
My 2002 dodge ram has 256'000 miles on the odometer. I have run super tech oil and filters since it's first oil change. It still runs as goid today as when i bought it new. I change my oil every 3 to 4 thousand miles. Good enough for me.
if you change your oil 3k-4k miles this filter with walmart supertech oil price wise this can't be beat
With full synthetic motor oil you can go up to at least7000 miles now the oil filter it all depends upon what you get which brand the fram ultra is a good won the STP maximum life is good the super tech one is not bad the mobile one is good the Purolator boss is good
@@roycurtis5669
I use Super Tech full synthetic oil and next oil change I'm using Super Tech oil filter. I do change ours every 5,000 miles.
@@roycurtis5669 how is one better than the other for your engine?
I'm lucky if I do 3000 in 6 months as I dont drive much other than to work and Home Depot/Grocery Store. My trucks maintenance in the manual says 5000 between changes but gets changed WAY more often than that.
I stick with a WIX or Bosch oil filter.
Castrol Full Synthetic oil or Kendall Motor oil.
Luckily all the oil filters you have fit my Honda Civic and I actually love this current Supertech oil filter. It's cheap and I do relatively short oil change intervals and I would imagine this has good flow. I am going to stock up on these Supertech oil filters.
Changing your oil too much is bad! .... Just kidding lol
Richard Ojeda
I have good flow when I’m taking a dump
Plastic melts at temperatures higher than 400F. This filter is junk
Don't care if it was a Louis Vuitton oil filter, you always check that the gasket came off with the filter. Another thing is you are comparing a top line extended performance filter to a regular filter. Why not use a regular mobile 1 filter
SUPER TECH is made by Champion, as is KN and some parts store house brands.
Champion also makes airplane filters with a hex top and safety wings.
Plastic melts at high heat. Wtf are they thinking?!
Nope...champion was bought by purolator/mann company so these are identical to ac delco, mobil 1, k@n and a few others...identical inside and outside
I've heard from several sources that Wix makes ST filters. I've never had a problem with them. I did with Fram, back in the old days.
FRAM is the worst filter to buy ..WIX filter are better I worked for a auto parts warehouse for 17 years and we had no trouble cone back on the filters
Dan, the Supertechs have two styles. One with the PAPER end-caps like the orange can of death, and the metal. You can tell the difference BEFORE you buy when at the store, so open the package and see the end of the filter that screws onto the car. If it looks like there's a REALLY THIN EXTRA layer of flat metal then that's the paper end-cap culprit! WHY??? I was considering buying these filters for my old f-150 but not now. I'll just stick with napa gold or motorcraft if I was going to cheap out. I can't find the efficiency/micron rating on the motorcraft.
The last super tech filter I bought not long ago had metal and not plastic inside
Could depend on the part #
@@Big_Ben1988 it really probably depends on application. Pressures etc so yeah different part numbers as well.
SuperTech - “Insist on it!”
This should be a 5 minutę video....Jim
I killed the sound at 10.
This video is a total waste of time... In no way does it compare the actual performance of any of the filters.
GET TO THE POINT!
Funny thing is, Walmart's TLE, or tire, lube express, does NOT use supertec in the shop. They use stock Fram filters. That speaks volumes as to what Walmart thinks of their own brand of filters. If you want a filter other then a stock Fram, you have to request one at the time you take it in for the oil change. Otherwise, you get a POS Fram filter....
Walmart super tech filters are basically a slightly reworked Wixx,,, Walmart had a deal with Wixx for a little while to make super tech filters however Walmart was studying them when they learned all they could know about making oil filters they struck out on their own with champion laboratories and that’s the Supertek filter you’re getting today from Walmart,,, if they were bad filters they wouldn’t be selling them anymore because they sell millions and millions of those filters a lot of people use them and I’m one of them I’ve never had a problem with one,,,I also use their OW 20 synthetic oil and some of their Dino oil conventional including two-stroke and 10w30 and 5w30 and Straight 30 never had any trouble with the house brands at Walmart,,, i’ve also used their equivalent to WD 40 and brake parts cleaner and carburetor cleaner and brake fluid and antifreeze and transmission and power steering fluid‘s gear oil‘s grease never one single problem and the price is always right
Don't think I would not change the oil before the mileage listed on the filter box. Cheap oil, cheap filter. Both work good from Walmart.
Exact filter for my car, good to see this review. Gona get the filter and oil and change the oil for the 1st time on my 2012 optima.. Changed it all the time on my truck but my car is "new" and always took it to get done and then i am releasing my car is gona be 8 years old and its time to start DIYing it again like my truck.
Walmart filters are made by an outside manufacturer, not by Walmart. SuperTech is just a private brand.
Yes that is correct
I have no doubt that for any ordinary driving, the Walmart filter is just fine.
Ac delco...k&n, Mobil 1, and super tech are identical now inside
Thank you for another great video👍. In regards to the plastic center tube im sure your aware of how strong plastic is when it’s in a circular or circle shape and I to would think that the super tech would have better oil flow because of the numerous and larger openings in the plastic center. For its intended usage it’s probably fine. I used a super tech oil filter many years ago and when it was time for the oil change I hard a very hard time getting the filter off. Since than I have never used one again. Also on this last oil change i used the fram ultra on my wife’s car and the tough guard on my truck, for the first time in many years I decided to give them a try again. So far so good👍, years ago all I would use is fram and never thought anything about it lol.
I'd stay far from Fram stick to ST
Plastic melts. How is that good?
Hi well I jusy used 1 on a jeep 4.0 and the filter was defective had a small cut on side due to the pressing of the top then painted so couldn't see put on filled jeep with synthetic primed mtr and pulled out to change oil in Durango just to see a trail of fluid pulled off went to Walmart showed manager he gave me a replacement and a quart of syn Castrol .. 1st filter to do that in my 35yrs of owning rides ...
The plastic cage is actually really good cuz it doesn't restrict oil flow. It is the same filter as the acdelco
Plastic melts...
I've come to the conclusion that cutting open filters doesn't add a ton in evaluating performance or reliability. You need to perform actual tests with oil and stress tests like a lab or manufacturer would.
That would require time, effort and money. Hacksaw and a GoPro seem to satisfy most on YT...
I agree. The bottom line is ...
1. Which filter filters the best
2. Which filter maintains a healthy flow rate the best.
These visual comparisons are a total waste of time.
@@TakeDeadAim Just goes to show that a lot of peeps are too easily satisfied with just shit for information.
I would like to know if the plastic inner tube of an oil filter doesn't weaken and deform under operational stress and temperature. Thank you for your clarity and on-point analysis of your presentations.
No it does not. I run 1 of the 3 machines that make the element (paper with the metal endcap piece). I may have actually made that element although I don't think so due to the position of the inkblot. If I stand on a metal core laid on its side it will crush. The same with the plastic core (we call them cores not center tubes). I weigh 175 pounds and can stand on the plastic core if it is standing upright and it will not crush. I know because when they drop out of the machine I have to sweep them up and I crush them under foot to make them sweep easier. If they are upright I have to knock them over to crush them. The endcaps are attached to the paper with a hotmelt glue poured into the endcap. This glue is at 430 degrees and I have never seen a core melt when put into the hotmelt.
@@duncanevy What material is that core made of !??
It APPEARS to be a fiber-filled polymer resin.
@@SlikLizrd It is some sort of nylon. I will have to ask the molding machine operators what is actually in it.
@@duncanevy A glass-filled Nylon would be the choice -- for the strength and rigidity that's needed in a "Hot Oil" environment.
The Subaru brand oil filter is designed just like the Fram & ST.
The end cap material is cellulose, and microglass. Its technically stronger than the filter media which is primarily cellulose but can conform to the same degree.
Also from a design standpoint its better, when under pressure it will more or less flex/give to the same degree as the filter media. Metal end caps are nice to look at but they are much stronger, resulting in the filter tearing under high pressure. It puts more stress on the weakest part of every filter.
I do get though folks like it, from a tear down point of view it looks higher quality but it has its own downsides. This is why most synthetic filters are multilayered, and generally include wire backing. It makes up for the structural load a metal end cap will place on them.
My filter philosophy: oem filters through the warranty period. Thereafter Supertech full-syn/Kirkland full syn and Supertech/Napa/Purolator/Wix/Bosch filters. 5,000 mile oil changes.... I would choose one brand and use if thereafter, your change of getting reimbursed if a fold of filter paper breaks loose and ends up stuck in a piston ring are much better if you don't give the filter maker room to claim it was some other brand of filer.
What I hate about the Supertechs is the gaskets swell up so bad you have a hell of a time getting it off without crushing the case. And that after being careful not tightening too much. Thin cases too.
Why worry about crushing a used filter?
I have a 96 Olds 88 with a 3800 V6. Car has 150,000. Runs like a clock. I change my oil and filter every 3,000 miles. I use Master Tech Synthetic High Mileage oil and a cheap ass Master Tech filter. Never had a problem yet. Your right about that O ring. I always look up there to make sure the old oil filter ring isn't left on the engine.
BE ADVISED - I just bought and cut open a SuperTech ST10575. It has cardboard end caps! Also NO pressure relief valve in the leaf spring. The AC Delco equivalent (PF63) DOES have a PRV! Buyer Beware
Yes sir. I was very surprised myself. All other filters for my application have the PRV, but not the SuperTech. For fun, I’ve ordered an AC Delco UPF63R that will be dissected also. Just can’t understand that SuperTech.
I changed my oil on my 19 Silverado
The oil filter that came with the truck is not the same acdelco pf63e that’s on shelves in Walmart.
From the chevy dealer, the oil filter has the By-Pass spring you can visually see looking into the filter. I would purchase acdelco filters from dealer
I used to buy these Supertech filters for my 2000 Explorer, up until I bought one and it was the new design and extremely small compared to the Motorcraft for $1 more. I wasn't impressed and returned it immediately, considering the Motorcraft is smaller than it was 15 years ago.
I’ve had 2 engine failures with Fram oil filters. Super Tech is not owned by Walmart. Super Tech tear apart tests were done years ago and they beat out most of the oil filter brands.
I use super tech and very satisfied
=Little grease on the gasket to stick it on during assembly.
=A few cheap NEO MAGNETS on the end of the can will remove
ferris particles from zero to 20 microns
[super bad] also...
=good for hanging tools up on box, fridge, &c.
=Hold a handful of screws together.
= fun to play w/.
Nice vid man.
Best at ~1.5X playback speed.
I just read that Wal-Mart bought Wix manufacturing facility to make the Super Tech filters. That doesn't make it a Wix by any means, but it's still better than a Fram. I personally prefer Purolator Plus filters, but will use a Wix or NAPA Gold as well.
Walmart don't make there own filters or lubricant like most company's they have a major manufacturer does this they themselves engineer these products I believe they just sell them under their name
Thats basically how it works for everyone, its not a secret.
Duh...
Mobil 1 Oil filter with rebate is only cost $5. Then the difference is $1. Why do I have to choose this oil filter?
Or PurolatorOne cost around $6.
I just need to pay $2 extra. It is too cheap to upgrade to better one.
Rebate? I've been paying like $10 for my m110a's at Walmart.
@@Mrcoolnerfstuff mobil has rebates every year. Buy 5 quarts and a filter get back 17 bucks
OR...Just buy a $4.58 Wix and be done with it.
Ac delco filters have the plastic center tube. Over the years you can tell ac delco went from high quality tap to stamped out cheap taps.
Get my oil changes at wall mart ... at my local store , they charge the same for synthetic - regardless of brand ! so I just go with with Mobil 1.
The guy talking is having one hellva problem just getting the point across and isn't worth crap doing this.
Very classy comment. Must be RH is a very classy individual.
Tearing them apart and looking at them and showing all the different components is really cool however that doesn’t really show us if the filter does it’s job and which one removes more contaminants over a long period of time that’s the test we need someone to run on these filters so we’ll know conclusively I would say run several different filters with the same oil in the same car and send everyone of them to Blackstone for an oil analysis then you’ll know what you got,,, hint hint anyone out there interested I would be glad to watch your video
Watch project farms videos, you won’t be disappointed.
I think performance is about all that is desired. Cost may be a factor also. All the technical whiz is pretty much redundant, I think.
I've been using Fram filters for years and if I knew that they were made of cardboard I would not have, but the Supertech filter that I saw in another video had a coil spring.
Dude ,an extra 2 bucks for a good filter twice a year isn't gonna effect your age of retirement
FYI: Fram makes the Toughgard and Ultragard filters. Both have metal end caps like the Supertech, Wix, Motorcraft and many others. Walmart has these.
The OEM filters I use don't even have end caps.
Steven, all full flow engine filters have end caps. Some are cartridge types for putting into a housing, and some have a "can" made over the cartridge and have threads... which is then called a spin-on filter.
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They all have end caps, do they? Some have nothing but glue sealing the ends of the pleated media. I don't call that an end cap. Some have cardboard*, plastic, or metal end caps but they all have to be glued. The glue is what seals the ends of the filter media. The end caps are unnecessary. If they were necessary then the OEM filter would have them.
I do change my own oil and filter, and I've been doing so for 66 years, and you think I don't know? Wow!
parts.olathetoyota.com/oem-parts/toyota-oil-filter-04152yzza1
*Actually the end caps on the base Fram filters are not cardboard regardless if that's what it looks like.
Fram does NOT use cardboard endcaps but resin impregnated endcaps which are arguably better than metal end caps which are harder to bond to a paper filter media.
And even the OEM Toyota spin-on filter has no end caps... th-cam.com/video/pMYILSpFCA4/w-d-xo.html
Did he ever check Toyota OEM oil filters ? I heard they have a special check valve. Whatever that means.
The rule of thumb is, keep your oil change regularly and not wait until 10k or more in most cases. You can used any filter. It’s all about marketing and perception most people think… oh expensive always good. If you can makes 3x oil changes compare to 1x oil change with expensive filter.
Quite good overall. You just put the gasket upside down when you put it back on the filter. The only problem with this is that looks like it has beveled surface, which it does not.
When you use Amsoil products as prescribed it is the least expensive that can be found for what it does. Google for a local dealer near you. Advance may have them, Bumper to bumper, some NAPA
An old airplane trick is to use copper anti seize on the gasket and thread. Comes off as easy as it goes on.
FYI .....ALL Fram filters are silicone rubber.
Filters meet warranty requirements.
Talk to most mechanics that have 30+ years in the business which includes oil changes and/or engine rebuilds. As them what is the most common oil filter brand which they see fail and result in engine destruction.
FilterKingz thanks for doing some Updates on the filter for SuperTech. I always Run conventional Oil on these Filter and Every 5K do my usual oil change. Im gonna Run Synthetic Next Time. I will try SuperTech Oil Synthetic High Mileage.
I would use the Fram Synthetic or a Wix
how good does a filter have to be to last 3ooo miles or even longer
Not a clear question Bob. Please re phrase your question.
figured fram made them for having the same part number, but i wouldn't trust either for 10K miles. toyota genuine is 2 bucks more (if you don't buy it at walmart, and their limited selection of toyota filters doesn't include mine anyway). supertech is good enough for 4 bucks / 5K miles / now
Looks pretty flimsy to me! I’ll stick with Purolator.
I can aprove I’ve been using fram and supertech oil filters on my 2000 civic ex for a while n I’ve had no problems till this day 👍🏼 I prefer supertech because I love a little challenge in taking the filter off since it has no grip , but I switch it up to fram whenever I want to get a good grip n not struggle I know I knoe it’s weird but idc I love working on my cars ...oh! N I use supertech 10w-30 👍🏼 no problems as Well....
I do understand what are you trying to say👍👍But for me I'm thankful on this company for selling their brand cheaper than the other brands and help us save at least a fraction of the price.Ive been using Super Tech oil and filters last year and I see no issues switching from mobil 1 synthetic, replacing my oil every 3000 miles without any issues thats it! Thanks SuperTech and I hope you don't increase and continue helping people like us on the tight budget specially this pandemic...👍👍🤟🤟👌👌Stay Safe Out There...
personally until I seen thse camparative issues ,I was surprised to see that a brand I thought was one of the best used cardboard end caps instead of metal
Good coverage , looks like it`s as good or better than a Western Auto oil filter , sounds good to me for this price .