@@MrUlaris he's manipulative so even tho he may be telling the truth, it is probably to better control and create an order similar to the sith empire before the rule of 2 on a smaller scale.
@@jakereis1491 Possibly but as we saw with Master Sora Bulq only certain Jedi can use Vaapaad and stay in the light. I don't know if it would be wise to teach all Jedi the form. At the same time I think that the Jedi Order should be more like the ancient Je'daii order and maintain a balance between light and dark. Strictly adhering to any one side of the force is dangerous. I think Malicos is right. Cal could have had a strong alliance with him if Malicos hadn't gone insane.
When he says "Leave you? Alone? Lost and defenseless in this dangerous place? Never" I actually felt it. Sure he had his motives but he also genuinely wanted to embrace Cal as his apprentice like a little brother I think. You could hear pain in his voice.
honestly with this guy I feel like some player choice would be welcome. I honestly went to dathomir first because I wanted to get some dark side abilities and I didn't see this guy as a bad person. I think it would be cool if you has two options for this planets final boss. option one: you see interest in gaining power and trust malicros but then merrin would get pissed off and would "deal with this jedi scribe, herself!" afterwords malicos would join the team. cannon option: go through the route that the actual game takes you on where merrin kills your buddy in a super disturbing way and then joins the group and you start to feel like you can't trust her too well but you also think she looks pretty cute without a hood on and then you start to look through the comics to see if necromancy is a real thing in-
@@dragonkight64dragonslayer62 If I were Cal, I'd join him. Though then it would take him dying, or being severely injured for me to fall to the Dark Side.
Taron Malicos probably lost his sanity being strandard on Dathomir for so long. Thought he was gonna he be a Grey Jedi like Ahsoka , but I guess he is similar to Darth Maul being an outcast and he seeks to build a new order between the Jedi and Sith to fight the Empire?
John Cena It’s not so black & white. The Jedi code is dogmatic and it’s playing safe not giving into your deeper and dark impulses since it leads to the dark side but I always felt like their so restrictive and self imposing , they rather make you an emotionless servant of the light then training their students on how to suppress their emotions . The Dark side is as we know it, the opposite and embracing those negative feelings and converting em into your strength & raw power , it’s the much easier to embrace your feelings and unleash em altogether then it is resisting control over em. For me,personally , I choose the Light side always. The Sith has a long bloody history of betrayal , lusting for power, stepping and preying on the weak and defenseless , if it wasn’t for Darth Bane who tore down the weak fundamentals of the Sith teachings and revamped em , the Sith would’ve been stuck in their old ways. The Jedi was, they didn’t evolve past their old teachings thus falling. If you want more in depth of the force, philosophies of the Light & Dark side, there are always the KOTOR 1 & 2 games. KOTOR2 is a deconstruction of the SW mythology and answers what long -standing questions any SW fan has. The balance of the force have always been the accountability on both the Light and Dark sides, throughout SW history, both the Jedi and Sith faced near extinction.
John Cena Ehh, your point is? Everybody knows the whole story thread of 1-6. SW doesn’t just revolve around the movies. Those SW games are cannon to Legends and they were legendary . Several force users like Darth Revan, Starkiller, Kriea ,etc were able to cross both lines of the Light & Dark side. Also, it’s way better then the Sequel trilogy we been forced fed.
Cal fails to see that in a planet of darkness and violence like Dathomir there's going to be some damage to the sanity and purity of even the strongest Jedi. I even thought Malicos could've ended up an ally had he not been so blinded and deceived by the dark side.
I don't know why everyone wants a dark side path in this game. This is a CANON game, this is about Cal kestis and his story, i have no problem whatsoever with playing the game how the developers intended
Man, at least once, I wana see someone fall to the dark side out of logic. I mean, that's how it happened for Revan. And at least Malicos here is at least occasionally making sense. "Look past your own soul's wellbeing. You are willing to let hundreds of millions suffer, just so you can claim a clean conscience? Such arrogance."
Oh that quote is amazing. Nice choice. Never heard it before. I think Malicos had some weak writing, but he did feel like a charscter from an old Lucasarts game. I can't help but be drawn to him. And yes, I love how Revan turned to the Dark Side out of logic.
@@LeftytheGansterGremlin I made that quote up, actually. It's the sort of thing I WISH would be in a SW game. (to be fair, the sentiment is adapted from the last few episodes of Avatar the Last Airbender).
@@spehizle Oh shit dude. That's nice! You know what? Play the original KoToR games. Especially 2. Because it tackles themes like your quote about the Jedi all the time.
@@LeftytheGansterGremlin I played KOTOR 1, and tried to do a Dark Side playthrough, but it was just cartoonishly evil. I've heard KOTOR 2 is better for DS playthroughs, and you've given me an excuse to finally go get it.
@@spehizle Trust me dude. The game has such good writing, it really puts these new canon materials to shame imo. It breaks down our conceptions of the Jedi and Sith, and shows how even the smallest of deeds can create a chain of events that affect individual's lives. It's baxically WAAAAY better than the last Jedi. And if you're struggling to appreciate it? Simply look up "The Philosophy on Kreia" By a channel with Legit no name. He breaks down the greatest character written in Star Wars.
Reminds me a little of when Maul met Ezra on Malachor and Yoda's first meeting with Luke, Malicos is acting all mysterious and a little frail, but in reality is very powerful.
@Dovah kid Interesting, I've never read King Arthur, I know it definitely influenced all fantasy stories after it especially in the west. I know the basic stuff like Anduril/Narsil from Lord of the Rings and of course Anakin's Lightsaber were analogues of the sword in the stone and of course Gandalf and Obi Wan being analogues of Merlin.
Shes talking about general grievous when she said a armored attacker killed her sisters Edit:1.6k.. i guess people have theories about my comment Edit 2: 4.5K Well That’s Pretty cool
@@MrSamsicbing That can't be though. The Nightsisters were exterminated DURING the Clone Wars, not after. Plus, in the TCW cartoon, we see their slaughter on-screen, no less at Grievous's hands.
Taron Malicos and Luke Skywalker went to the same conclusion about the Jedi Order. Yet the difference is that Taron tried to have more power by being an asshole, were Luke decided to retreat as an hermit because he was afraid that he would make things worse and harm the one he loved.
That wan NOT,I repeat NOT, Luke. That was Jake Skywalker,a creation by that pretentious bellend Ruin Johnson. Stop perpetuating this shitty fanfiction.
Props to Cal, even though he would have eventually lost without Merrin's help, he's done well for a padawan who stopped his training halfway through. Putting up such a valiant fight against a former jedi MASTER who learned the dark side of the force and nightsister magick secrets is pretty impressive.
Well to be fair, the witches of Dothomir were her only family so of course she'd see them as good people. The last thing she remembers is them being hacked to bits by Grievous (while laughing) and his Droids slaughtering her sisters as they tried to protect the sanctuary.
9:04 He's very right., the Jedi were playing the old game of hit sticks together. And while Palatine distracted them with war, he eroded the Republic's values from underneath them. They lost before they even started.
Kind of a shame what happened to Taron, he was betrayed through Order 66 and stranded on a hostile world that also had strong dark side influence. Couple that with how he must have been feeling post Order 66 with his struggle for survival and I'm not surprised he embraced the dark side.
I see a lot of people commenting that a dark side version would be cool and I agree. You could join Malicos before the fight, and you would both have to fight Merrin instead as a boss. And then the plot would change so that Malicos and Cal want the Holocron to start their new order, imprisoning your friends so you could do it. Then the end mission would be the same, except you would attack Second Sister out of rage and hatred for Prauf and the Order.
So much wasted potential for these characters. Malicos could've deadass become this Disney Canon's Darth Krayt and Cal as their version of Cade Skywalker...
True, Tarons damage is too little and he literally never parries. Im on Jedi Master and 1 hit was almost half of my hp bar and whenever i tried to attack Malicos he would parry instantly.
on grandmaster this fight almost broke me,everything before was kinda easy so i only had 4 stims didnt care to get more,and i was too stuborn to quit and come back... took me 7 hours and one hurt hand.
Fulcrum 67 More like lamer. Exists for all of 15 minutes, gets his ass kicked, then dies. Least Jorus actually had the respect of Anakin. And his clone Jedi army idea was genius.
@@JXZX1 Now I wonder who really had that idea first? Since in Force Unleashed 2, Vader was planning to Clone Starkiller, and he used tons of clones of him to kill the Rebel Starkiller on Kamino.
Love the subtlety in the script. When Cal first asks who he is he says “you don’t... no one to fear”. A nice hint towards Taron being a Jedi and also his arrogance of thinking Cal should know him.
Why do when Jedi turn the Dark Side, they automatically seek out ‘red’ lightsaber crystals - even if cut off from the rest of the galaxy’s civilization?
They don’t seek out crystals anymore. In canon they make their crystals change color based on their aura in the force. But a red crystal is when someone takes a Jedi crystal and makes it feel pain, and does what they call “bleeding” it. Until it turns a crimson red.
MrFuggleGuggle most lightsabers crystals came from Ilum, but mace windu’s came from a different planet where they’re purple instead of the regular colours
I don't really understand why she thought Grievous was a Jedi. The nightsisters knew of the Separatists and the Sith. Even if she was a child she should know who destroyed their village.
@Ch Pe I did consider that but it really doesn't hold up once you think about it. He was surrounded by separatist droids with separatist markings on them and was a infamous separatist leader. They weren't directly involved in the clone wars but they help fund the sith with warriors (at least 3) so they should have an understanding of what is going on.
Easter Egg. Notice how Spartacus uses two swords. Taron does as well. Notice how Spartacus has scars from whips in the same areas as Taron does. Taron also speaks how Spartacus would.
I had to turn off my ps4 and come back to it later that night just because this guy beat me so many times. Felt good to be on the verge of throwing a controller again, just like my younger days lol
I dont understand why so many people are saying talon abused his power or was power hungry and evil, he was forced to take over the night brothers or they would have never stopped hunting him. It shows in many logs and in the clone wars that the night brothers were already all about power and strength and would not hesitate to kill outsiders, his only hope at repairing his ship or trying to find any means of escape off the planet was to take over the only intelligent population and it just so happens that he meets merrin around the same time, now in his eyes it made sense to lie to her about the jedi, not only was he just betrayed by his trusted friends and allies but he was abandoned and believed to be alone so its only reasonable that he held some distain towards the republic and jedi and merrin also being alone and believing that lightsaber wielders killed her family he saw this as an opportunity to bond or yes manipulate her to gain her favor, he had no way of knowing he was going to stay there for as long as he did at the time only that he needed help and was confused and possibly angry, only after he became leader of the clan and heal did he begin to sense the power dathomir emitted, and with no way off the planet as most likely no one ever ventured there as dathomir was know as a galaxy wide deathtrap as greez would always say how scared he was of it so him being a force user feeling the energy he was naturally curious as anyone would be and merrin was willing to teach him or guide him to the sources and he didnt want to ruin the already uneasy relationship by saying oh yeah i lied bc then he would have to explain the history of jedi and sith when its clear he wants that in the past and he wants to start something new. This is why he not only attempts to comfort cal but tells him of his plan to control the evil instead of being corrupted by it, but Cal being young and hopeful and plagued by his ptsd of his master and order 66 has vowed to completely replicate the jedi order bc light=good and dark=bad so when he sees that a force user has used his abilities to come into control of a group, even though that group is by nature and tradition focused on being the strongest and the better warrior, he sees it as a violation of jedi code. Talon was obviously not crazy or corrupt with power as those who were example being the emperor, vader and even maul when he began his story in the clone wars, they all specifically said “join me or die” talon was no wear near that evil, he showed control over the power, he did not have yellow eyes nor was bound for greatness or domination, he just wanted to learn to control and possibly teach this historically evil power in a way that would be beneficial and non corrupting like so many others have preached or fell victim too. The only reason he attacks cal and has red lightsabers is for plot and another boss fight to show an “evil” character bc red=bad. his character leading up to the fight shows compassion and willing to learn he even asks cal why hes so interested in the tombs if its not power and cal doesnt respond initiating the fight. Yes he was a good character and villian but he was also not evil or crazy or in the wrong, everything was justifiable and sane of him to do in his situation. Talon was undeniably too unique and complex to kill off they could do so much more with him and i hope to see him again bc i dont think such a unique situation could arise again in the universe with so much backstory already written without making a new planet race history etc.
Why are people always moaning about grey jedi? Neutral force users are a rarity for a reason, only a few exception were able to get in this state after a loong process during which the person in question often go from side to side until he/she stabilize. The rest? They will fall deep in the dark side since it will tempt them constantly to use it more and more.
i played it all on jedi master, and damn was it intense, sure i died 20 times to this dude. but hey i learned all his moveset , beating this dude again would be cakewalk now.
Vikrampic Loenally yeah but dark side users and sith all they talk about is their everlasting quest for power and more. It’s sort of their whole reason for doing what they’re doing.
For those that are curious, the "Armored warrior" is General Grievous. (No, It's *NOT* Darth Vader, as he still was Anakin Skywalker at the time. It also isn't any other Sith. We see Grievous murdering them ON SCREEN in The Clone Wars TV Show).
Honestly in terms of sheer strength Malicos felt like the true villain to me he was way harder then both then both the sisters and it showed as you even need help from Merrin to beat him.
Malicos was a great take on Dark Jedi in the sense that he truly believed he conquered the dark side. He never used Dark Side attacks during the fight like choke or lightning. Besides his Lightsabers and savage ways he still believed he was a Jedi.
Fun fact for any of your Spartacus fans out there. The voice actor and model for Taron Malicos is Liam McIntyre (Spartacus himself) from the second season onward!
Fallen Order crafted a great villain, Taron Malicos used to be a Jedi master and after order 66 and his time in Dathomir embraced the dark side and also saw the truth of the Jedi, they had fallen long before the Clone Wars and long before he had joined the order himself, he wanted to make a new order, something which he thought was better, if Malicos had his way he would've made an order probably worse than the Jedi. Taron was a very real character and fell to the dark side out of isolation and the presence of the dark side on Dathomir, not many people would've been able to resist the dark side.
I don’t know why but I freaking love 10:53 it’s the fastest you see Cal fight someone in the game I think and it just reminds me of clone wars fights for some reason
Well, just like anakin, he was right to not like the jedi. Its just that all of their other faults make them loose any credibility, even though they were right.
At this point we should just have a videogame company make a 2 hour cutscene and have that be a new Star Wars movie. If Bioware can make cinema quality commercials for KOTOR then it can be done.
TmanTheTdog so what are they two entirely different cultures/ or groups now? Seems like a loop hole to be a traitorous back stabbing, fog sniffing, OZLings! I ain’t buying what she’s selling!
Greater Grievobeast 55 I mean, don’t the two groups only interact when they want to breed or are recruiting a person for the Sith? (going by the Clone Wars episodes)
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 You obviously didnt watch the clone wars TV series and therefore are a star wars fan wannabe. Yes they are two entirely different culture, they even look like different species
"Leave you? Alone? Lost and defenseless in this dangerous place? Never." That actually sounds like a pretty awesome good guy line. I was kind of sad he turned out to be a villain after he said that.
Its pretty amazing that Taron Malicos is voiced by non other than Liam Mcintyre who played Spartacus in season 2-3. And on that show he fought with 1 sword in each hand. What a great homage to a powerful character.
That awkward feel when you listen the the antagonist's speech and he lowkey making sense
Yeah I feel like this game should have had different choices. I honestly agree with malicos in most of what he was saying
@@xSharpW Same as me.
@@MrUlaris he's manipulative so even tho he may be telling the truth, it is probably to better control and create an order similar to the sith empire before the rule of 2 on a smaller scale.
@@xSharpW He isn't wrong about the Jedi, sure, but that doesn't mean he was right to use Merrin and the Nightbrothers the way he did.
Ch Pe he was controlling them
the game: *gives you the choice of having any colour of lightsaber you want*
everyone: "i'll have the purple one"
I do like the purple color, but I also like the green one
I like orange and cyan
And that is exactly why i chose Yellow.
Bastilla Shan would fuck up Mace Windu anyday.
@@Telos1807 i love your color tradition as ive always chosen yellow for its underdog glow to it. Plus who wouldn't wanna have a Sentinel title
Cyan
I gotta say Taron Malicos is an epic Star Wars name
idk.. for me it sounds like tacos
@@enma9359 lmao
Malicios is actually Greek.
Yea so cool like Space Hannibal Lecter.
Cal Kestis is also an epic name
He was right, the jedi were blinded by tradition and weak when it came to actually protecting the people
Yeah and jedi may join empire or choice their own path. But it is like they say. You died as a hero or live long enough to become a villain.
They should make vaapad the standard form for all jedi and they wont have this problem sheesh
Caleb Smith Batman is fake dragon ball has taught me the opposite
@@jakereis1491 Possibly but as we saw with Master Sora Bulq only certain Jedi can use Vaapaad and stay in the light. I don't know if it would be wise to teach all Jedi the form. At the same time I think that the Jedi Order should be more like the ancient Je'daii order and maintain a balance between light and dark. Strictly adhering to any one side of the force is dangerous. I think Malicos is right. Cal could have had a strong alliance with him if Malicos hadn't gone insane.
They were only say 25,000 tho in galaxy of trillions..
9:42
“We can build something better”
Cal: No
9:44
Taron: -graphics lowered-
xd
RynlikesFood That happened to me when I was playing on PS4.
War Hounds that’s what’s supposed to happen. The quality of the game graphics are much lower than the cutscene graphics
Snpaul But these cutscenes are in game, not pre-rendered.
@@Snpaulie not on pc lol stays the same for me. the cutscenes are rendered in game
i love this games respect for the lore in the clone wars and it's expansion on it
Yeah, it feels like home to be back on Darthomir. Brings a tear to your eye.
Carly Crays especially that now that traditions had to change the last night sister and the last few of the Jedi now allies and it feels amazing.
Disney respecting SW lore?
@@xanthippus3190 George Lucas didn't even respect Star Wars lore. It was always influx.
@@rosesweetcharlotte wasnt him who made the lore ?
"Lucky hit!" *gets hit like five times*
Rinse and repeat
yeah and they were all lucky
The fact he was playing on low difficulty didn't help :p He is way more agressive in max difficulty :)
@@croumir also a very stupid game diminishing the power of a light saber. no dismember whatsoever!
Lol player
When he says "Leave you? Alone? Lost and defenseless in this dangerous place? Never" I actually felt it. Sure he had his motives but he also genuinely wanted to embrace Cal as his apprentice like a little brother I think. You could hear pain in his voice.
More like a son I'd say, given the age difference, but yeah
honestly with this guy I feel like some player choice would be welcome. I honestly went to dathomir first because I wanted to get some dark side abilities and I didn't see this guy as a bad person. I think it would be cool if you has two options for this planets final boss. option one: you see interest in gaining power and trust malicros but then merrin would get pissed off and would "deal with this jedi scribe, herself!" afterwords malicos would join the team. cannon option: go through the route that the actual game takes you on where merrin kills your buddy in a super disturbing way and then joins the group and you start to feel like you can't trust her too well but you also think she looks pretty cute without a hood on and then you start to look through the comics to see if necromancy is a real thing in-
God the voice acting in this game is amazing
It amuses me how many of the actors they had for this game were fairly well known tv actors.
So basically a dark side version of General Kota?
Hermit Kota
Who is also Shirtless, and Hot.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 old man swole 💪🤣
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@@dragonkight64dragonslayer62 If I were Cal, I'd join him. Though then it would take him dying, or being severely injured for me to fall to the Dark Side.
Taron Malicos probably lost his sanity being strandard on Dathomir for so long.
Thought he was gonna he be a Grey Jedi like Ahsoka , but I guess he is similar to Darth Maul being an outcast and he seeks to build a new order between the Jedi and Sith to fight the Empire?
Yeah and the power he seeked corrupted him
He regained his sanity
Yeah I think he would build like a Grey Jedi order but closer to the ways of the Sith by using the power to protect by control
John Cena
It’s not so black & white. The Jedi code is dogmatic and it’s playing safe not giving into your deeper and dark impulses since it leads to the dark side but I always felt like their so restrictive and self imposing , they rather make you an emotionless servant of the light then training their students on how to suppress their emotions . The Dark side is as we know it, the opposite and embracing those negative feelings and converting em into your strength & raw power , it’s the much easier to embrace your feelings and unleash em altogether then it is resisting control over em.
For me,personally , I choose the Light side always.
The Sith has a long bloody history of betrayal , lusting for power, stepping and preying on the weak and defenseless , if it wasn’t for Darth Bane who tore down the weak fundamentals of the Sith teachings and revamped em , the Sith would’ve been stuck in their old ways. The Jedi was, they didn’t evolve past their old teachings thus falling.
If you want more in depth of the force, philosophies of the Light & Dark side, there are always the KOTOR 1 & 2 games.
KOTOR2 is a deconstruction of the SW mythology and answers what long -standing questions any SW fan has. The balance of the force have always been the accountability on both the Light and Dark sides, throughout SW history, both the Jedi and Sith faced near extinction.
John Cena Ehh, your point is? Everybody knows the whole story thread of 1-6. SW doesn’t just revolve around the movies.
Those SW games are cannon to Legends and they were legendary . Several force users like Darth Revan, Starkiller, Kriea ,etc were able to cross both lines of the Light & Dark side.
Also, it’s way better then the Sequel trilogy we been forced fed.
Taron was actually a pretty interesting character. Not quite your run of the mill dark jedi. I could almost see him as a protagonist anti-hero type.
dreadrath If he didn’t get so angry, I could’ve even seen him be a potential ally
InsaneTacoz It would’ve been cool if we had more choices in this game, like, what if I do wanna ally with Taron Malicos?
You don’t want to ally with him, or Merrin will see you as her enemy. You’ll have wanted to convince him to join your cause
@Emmerich August what? Mailocos made several appearances throughout... And hes hands down the best boss fight
Cal fails to see that in a planet of darkness and violence like Dathomir there's going to be some damage to the sanity and purity of even the strongest Jedi. I even thought Malicos could've ended up an ally had he not been so blinded and deceived by the dark side.
Malicos: “The darkness here... it almost took me.”
Almost? Lol
rockman10020 More like it deluded him
Clearly thought he was still in control when he obviously wasn't.
Um. Then why did Palpatine try to kill Luke?
That's why Grey Jedi concept barely works. Darkside is like drug. When you use it, you will need more.
@Ch Pe It just sounds cool in theory but it doesn't work.
9:39
This would've been the perfect point for a "dark path" for the game
I hope they give that option in the sequel
honestly I disagree with literally everything that cal says and does here
For me, it was when the Inquisitor took off her helmet and I realized she was cute.
I don't know why everyone wants a dark side path in this game. This is a CANON game, this is about Cal kestis and his story, i have no problem whatsoever with playing the game how the developers intended
@@imnotreal0763 there was KOTOR though I don't know how that was. All I know is that it's apparently amazing and you got to be jedi or sith.
Man, at least once, I wana see someone fall to the dark side out of logic. I mean, that's how it happened for Revan. And at least Malicos here is at least occasionally making sense.
"Look past your own soul's wellbeing. You are willing to let hundreds of millions suffer, just so you can claim a clean conscience? Such arrogance."
Oh that quote is amazing. Nice choice. Never heard it before. I think Malicos had some weak writing, but he did feel like a charscter from an old Lucasarts game. I can't help but be drawn to him.
And yes, I love how Revan turned to the Dark Side out of logic.
@@LeftytheGansterGremlin I made that quote up, actually. It's the sort of thing I WISH would be in a SW game. (to be fair, the sentiment is adapted from the last few episodes of Avatar the Last Airbender).
@@spehizle Oh shit dude. That's nice! You know what? Play the original KoToR games. Especially 2. Because it tackles themes like your quote about the Jedi all the time.
@@LeftytheGansterGremlin I played KOTOR 1, and tried to do a Dark Side playthrough, but it was just cartoonishly evil. I've heard KOTOR 2 is better for DS playthroughs, and you've given me an excuse to finally go get it.
@@spehizle Trust me dude. The game has such good writing, it really puts these new canon materials to shame imo. It breaks down our conceptions of the Jedi and Sith, and shows how even the smallest of deeds can create a chain of events that affect individual's lives. It's baxically WAAAAY better than the last Jedi.
And if you're struggling to appreciate it? Simply look up "The Philosophy on Kreia" By a channel with Legit no name.
He breaks down the greatest character written in Star Wars.
Reminds me a little of when Maul met Ezra on Malachor and Yoda's first meeting with Luke, Malicos is acting all mysterious and a little frail, but in reality is very powerful.
Its a very old story element, one of the best examples I can think of as its earliest recorded use is the arthurian legend.
@Dovah kid Interesting, I've never read King Arthur, I know it definitely influenced all fantasy stories after it especially in the west. I know the basic stuff like Anduril/Narsil from Lord of the Rings and of course Anakin's Lightsaber were analogues of the sword in the stone and of course Gandalf and Obi Wan being analogues of Merlin.
No wonder Darth Sidious was beyond tricky in the First Place.
he was the textbook case of tricky, no one knew what he truly was until it was too late.
@@iceomistar4302 Snowwhite too, with the witch.
Shes talking about general grievous when she said a armored attacker killed her sisters
Edit:1.6k.. i guess people have theories about my comment
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That may be one of the few times in canon where his mere mention (or reference) actually strikes fear into the audience.
It makes sense because greivous was ordered by dooku to kill them and mother talzan
ARMORED WARRIOR. Could also be referring to Darth Vadar. If she meant Grievous she could've said a mechanical warrior.
@@MrSamsicbing That can't be though. The Nightsisters were exterminated DURING the Clone Wars, not after. Plus, in the TCW cartoon, we see their slaughter on-screen, no less at Grievous's hands.
Vader wasn't alive when it happend it was anakin skywalker not vader
The transition at 9:42 gets me when it just suddenly changes quality.
Some games still have that cutscene to in-game disparity problem...
It wasnt that noticable for me when i played it
i think its because of the graphics they had. mine was on high and i didn't notice the transition
It’s just the lightning.
I only noticed until you pointed it out.
Taron Malicos is a pretty good "villian" as i agreed with many of the things he said.
From a quote I saw on another star wars video comment section
"As children we cheer the heros"
"As adults we understand the villains"
@@diegohall8733 GAMERS RISE UP
Have you ever heard of Senator Armstrong?
the armored warrior was general greivous when he was ordered to kill the witch cursing count dooku
no shit
@@XxiPoisonZxX I saw some people in the comments arguing if it was Grievous, Vader, Maul, Inquisitors, no one watched the show apparently.
Feral Changeling
How did anyone think it was maul?
@@autisticduck3071 I don't know, people have the attention span of a gnat.
@@feralchangeling97 *womp rat
Taron Malicos and Luke Skywalker went to the same conclusion about the Jedi Order. Yet the difference is that Taron tried to have more power by being an asshole, were Luke decided to retreat as an hermit because he was afraid that he would make things worse and harm the one he loved.
The new films aren't canon. 😉
Enterthemind1 Amen
Toxic Boxic not yet
George Rodger lmaooooo
That wan NOT,I repeat NOT, Luke.
That was Jake Skywalker,a creation by that pretentious bellend Ruin Johnson.
Stop perpetuating this shitty fanfiction.
Taron: “ThAt BrOkEn LiGhTsAbEr”
*Lightsaber is clearly repaired*
Cal: *visible confusion*
It was broken.
why couldn't you just fix it without going to the snow planet for half an hour. you have like five spare hilts at this point!
Props to Cal, even though he would have eventually lost without Merrin's help, he's done well for a padawan who stopped his training halfway through. Putting up such a valiant fight against a former jedi MASTER who learned the dark side of the force and nightsister magick secrets is pretty impressive.
personally I disagree with everything cal said
Darth Malicos and Lord Kestiss as the newly acting Sith Lords of the revived Sith Empire...
Cal: Okay, enough of this. Who are you really?
Wanderer: I. AM. SPARTACUS!
i shat a brick when i found that out hah
I'M SPARTACUS!
Jupiters cock! it IS Spartacus!
It's kinda stupid that she tries to paint the night sisters as good people when mother talzin in was just as evil as sidious
Well, she was a child when Dathomir was attack. So of course she would've thought that the Nightsisters and mother were good & innocent people
Well to be fair, the witches of Dothomir were her only family so of course she'd see them as good people.
The last thing she remembers is them being hacked to bits by Grievous (while laughing) and his Droids slaughtering her sisters as they tried to protect the sanctuary.
Many of the truths we cling too depend greatly on our point of view.
@Peasant Then you are lost!
Sure they are evil, but not as evil as sidious, good old palps is almost comically evil
9:04 He's very right., the Jedi were playing the old game of hit sticks together.
And while Palatine distracted them with war, he eroded the Republic's values from underneath them.
They lost before they even started.
Kind of a shame what happened to Taron, he was betrayed through Order 66 and stranded on a hostile world that also had strong dark side influence. Couple that with how he must have been feeling post Order 66 with his struggle for survival and I'm not surprised he embraced the dark side.
Battle of Dathomir, Grievous.
Good use of the Clone Wars and other various SW stories.
Cal: We built better order.
Taron: No, we built something better
Cal: No...
WTF?
Liberty Prime Cal: no this is not how you’re supposed to play the game
Better order...
Best order...
First order...
Final order...
Time to cancel my order of new star wars disney spinoffs.
Malicos saying the jedi were dead long before the purge isn't entirely inaccurate is the funny part.,..
Yep
What did he mean by that?
@@aristogan the Jedi lost their way before and during the Clone Wars. Palpatine masterfully played both sides of the war
I see a lot of people commenting that a dark side version would be cool and I agree. You could join Malicos before the fight, and you would both have to fight Merrin instead as a boss. And then the plot would change so that Malicos and Cal want the Holocron to start their new order, imprisoning your friends so you could do it. Then the end mission would be the same, except you would attack Second Sister out of rage and hatred for Prauf and the Order.
and then die from Vader instead of running
For an unknown reason, "Darth Malicos" sounds great...
So much wasted potential for these characters. Malicos could've deadass become this Disney Canon's Darth Krayt and Cal as their version of Cade Skywalker...
Darth Merrin
This guy is playing on easy, on "GrandMaster" he doesn't stop attacking. Ever!!
Sounds too hard.
True, Tarons damage is too little and he literally never parries. Im on Jedi Master and 1 hit was almost half of my hp bar and whenever i tried to attack Malicos he would parry instantly.
just force push malicos lol
on grandmaster this fight almost broke me,everything before was kinda easy so i only had 4 stims didnt care to get more,and i was too stuborn to quit and come back...
took me 7 hours and one hurt hand.
@@ppsarrakis 😂😂, sounds like a SoulsBorn player to me. Respect!
When she said, “I will join you.” I was literally thinking to myself, “I don’t remember inviting you.”
This guy was harder to beat for me than The Second Sister
This game is everything every Star Wars fan has been wanting.
12:20 when you try to outpizza the hut
"It's like you said... Pizza Hut will be your GRAVE"
@@meh106 RIP Papa John
Malicos was just a MaliBro and wanted you to join his frat
Oh look, it's Canon Jorus C'baoth.
Darth Sigma 86 But way better. Like seriously, he was like a burger you’d get from McDonalds while Thrawn was 5 star steak.
Plus Emperor Sidious’ Cloak.
that was my first thought too
Fulcrum 67 More like lamer. Exists for all of 15 minutes, gets his ass kicked, then dies.
Least Jorus actually had the respect of Anakin. And his clone Jedi army idea was genius.
@@JXZX1 Now I wonder who really had that idea first? Since in Force Unleashed 2, Vader was planning to Clone Starkiller, and he used tons of clones of him to kill the Rebel Starkiller on Kamino.
Love the subtlety in the script. When Cal first asks who he is he says “you don’t... no one to fear”. A nice hint towards Taron being a Jedi and also his arrogance of thinking Cal should know him.
The moment where you realize you’re fighting Spartacus.
Was waiting for Gannicus to jump out
Yeees ! The eyes gave it away , man I miss that show .
That moment when you realize you are fighting weather wizard
@@seandaly8943 Or if we are being more accurate Joker vs Weather Wizard.
@ANTHONY THOMAS This is actually a different Spartacus. This one is Liam McIntyre.
Why do when Jedi turn the Dark Side, they automatically seek out ‘red’ lightsaber crystals - even if cut off from the rest of the galaxy’s civilization?
I think in the new Disney Canon it's more so that the power of the Darkside causes a lightsaber crystal to "bleed" and turn red
They don’t seek out crystals anymore. In canon they make their crystals change color based on their aura in the force. But a red crystal is when someone takes a Jedi crystal and makes it feel pain, and does what they call “bleeding” it. Until it turns a crimson red.
Anakin Skywalker Why was Mace Windu’s purple?
MrFuggleGuggle most lightsabers crystals came from Ilum, but mace windu’s came from a different planet where they’re purple instead of the regular colours
MrFuggleGuggle it’s the color of his aura
"Only cowards run"
**Abandons the Jedi and runs from the Empire**
The republic became the empire
Love the grievous reference but sad she thought he was a jedi
Well, she was just a child when it happened so its understandable
I don't really understand why she thought Grievous was a Jedi. The nightsisters knew of the Separatists and the Sith. Even if she was a child she should know who destroyed their village.
@Ch Pe I did consider that but it really doesn't hold up once you think about it. He was surrounded by separatist droids with separatist markings on them and was a infamous separatist leader. They weren't directly involved in the clone wars but they help fund the sith with warriors (at least 3) so they should have an understanding of what is going on.
She thought having a light saber makes em jedi. That's why the main character said "having a light saber doesn't you are a jedi"
That’s Spartacus!!!!!
Nima Ameli Thank you. I wondered when someone would notice
@@jamesellis6822 you're welcome mate!
Easter Egg. Notice how Spartacus uses two swords. Taron does as well. Notice how Spartacus has scars from whips in the same areas as Taron does. Taron also speaks how Spartacus would.
I am so happy to see more spartacus fans! Second he spoke It clicked I was made up
He even has two swords!
Is it just me or does he kinda speak like he's still in the show? Lol
I had to turn off my ps4 and come back to it later that night just because this guy beat me so many times. Felt good to be on the verge of throwing a controller again, just like my younger days lol
Derek JCG I had that experience with trilla. Man it felt good
Ibeat him the first time..lol
Also was playing on easy😂
Eddie Morales I was about to say...
Today i literally almost snapped trying to beat the ninth sister😡😠
"dodging won't save you"
Dark souls player : " *observe* "
The animation and facial movements might be some of the best ive seen in a game.
I dont understand why so many people are saying talon abused his power or was power hungry and evil, he was forced to take over the night brothers or they would have never stopped hunting him. It shows in many logs and in the clone wars that the night brothers were already all about power and strength and would not hesitate to kill outsiders, his only hope at repairing his ship or trying to find any means of escape off the planet was to take over the only intelligent population and it just so happens that he meets merrin around the same time, now in his eyes it made sense to lie to her about the jedi, not only was he just betrayed by his trusted friends and allies but he was abandoned and believed to be alone so its only reasonable that he held some distain towards the republic and jedi and merrin also being alone and believing that lightsaber wielders killed her family he saw this as an opportunity to bond or yes manipulate her to gain her favor, he had no way of knowing he was going to stay there for as long as he did at the time only that he needed help and was confused and possibly angry, only after he became leader of the clan and heal did he begin to sense the power dathomir emitted, and with no way off the planet as most likely no one ever ventured there as dathomir was know as a galaxy wide deathtrap as greez would always say how scared he was of it so him being a force user feeling the energy he was naturally curious as anyone would be and merrin was willing to teach him or guide him to the sources and he didnt want to ruin the already uneasy relationship by saying oh yeah i lied bc then he would have to explain the history of jedi and sith when its clear he wants that in the past and he wants to start something new. This is why he not only attempts to comfort cal but tells him of his plan to control the evil instead of being corrupted by it, but Cal being young and hopeful and plagued by his ptsd of his master and order 66 has vowed to completely replicate the jedi order bc light=good and dark=bad so when he sees that a force user has used his abilities to come into control of a group, even though that group is by nature and tradition focused on being the strongest and the better warrior, he sees it as a violation of jedi code. Talon was obviously not crazy or corrupt with power as those who were example being the emperor, vader and even maul when he began his story in the clone wars, they all specifically said “join me or die” talon was no wear near that evil, he showed control over the power, he did not have yellow eyes nor was bound for greatness or domination, he just wanted to learn to control and possibly teach this historically evil power in a way that would be beneficial and non corrupting like so many others have preached or fell victim too. The only reason he attacks cal and has red lightsabers is for plot and another boss fight to show an “evil” character bc red=bad. his character leading up to the fight shows compassion and willing to learn he even asks cal why hes so interested in the tombs if its not power and cal doesnt respond initiating the fight. Yes he was a good character and villian but he was also not evil or crazy or in the wrong, everything was justifiable and sane of him to do in his situation. Talon was undeniably too unique and complex to kill off they could do so much more with him and i hope to see him again bc i dont think such a unique situation could arise again in the universe with so much backstory already written without making a new planet race history etc.
I love how every time someone is on the verge of creating a Grey Jedi order , a Jedi comes in with their mOrAls and messes it up
pretty much a sith order looking at the sabers
Why are people always moaning about grey jedi? Neutral force users are a rarity for a reason, only a few exception were able to get in this state after a loong process during which the person in question often go from side to side until he/she stabilize. The rest? They will fall deep in the dark side since it will tempt them constantly to use it more and more.
Taron only wanted power
Yeah man, screw those pesky morals. Always stopping us from descending into animalistic impulses and chaos
@@arkrilen2243 Amen! There is a reason there are almost no truly neutral groups in the real world to begin with.
I wish we got more of Malicos. He was an interesting character.
Indeed lord vader
idk what difficulty is this but it looks much more epic on jedi grand master. That dude is a beast. :D
I think it's story mode.
Because look at for the damages, that's is the reason‼
i played it all on jedi master, and damn was it intense, sure i died 20 times to this dude. but hey i learned all his moveset , beating this dude again would be cakewalk now.
took me 6hours or so to beat in GM my mistake is to have only 4 stims... after that i got a couple more and the last boss was easy...
Democritus86 you were probably better off grabbing the other stimpacks. That may have saved you some time.
We'll yeah. You would have died if not for the intervention of the Nightsister.
When I first met malicos I was like "Stranger Danger"
LunaOfTheDarkestNight wow you’re so quirky
LunaOfTheDarkestNight same
Sketchy man on a sketchy planet made Cal remember stranger danger
Drinking game: take a shot every time Malicos says 'power' or 'control'
Do it while driving a car😂
@@Jhering0 Screw that, I'm going to do it while flying a plane!
that's a asith thing. They always say power.
LudicrousKid he’s not a sith
Vikrampic Loenally yeah but dark side users and sith all they talk about is their everlasting quest for power and more.
It’s sort of their whole reason for doing what they’re doing.
Liam Mcintrye did a truly spectacular job voicing Taron Malicos! Takes me back to the days of Spartacus!
Cal is like a Star- Wars Harry Potter i can't explain
For those that are curious, the "Armored warrior" is General Grievous.
(No, It's *NOT* Darth Vader, as he still was Anakin Skywalker at the time. It also isn't any other Sith. We see Grievous murdering them ON SCREEN in The Clone Wars TV Show).
Yep.
So this is what that’s like to fight Darth Sidious,too bad he didn’t have his Sith Lightning..
@@shyenjitngo2322 And died...
@@ghostchannel4766 but starkiller would have killed sidious if kota hadn't stopped him tho
Honestly in terms of sheer strength Malicos felt like the true villain to me he was way harder then both then both the sisters and it showed as you even need help from Merrin to beat him.
Lowkey my favorite character in the game, his lightsaber design is magus in jedi fallen order if you want to have it.
I believe you do acquire set on Dathomir, when you visit a certain Workbench there.
I loved the character of Malicos. Hope some more light is shed on him, he was so cool.
Malicos was a great take on Dark Jedi in the sense that he truly believed he conquered the dark side. He never used Dark Side attacks during the fight like choke or lightning. Besides his Lightsabers and savage ways he still believed he was a Jedi.
I love how taron malicos was my favourite character in the whole game and hes only a small part of the story. Also his boss battle was dope.
The voice actor is Spartacus (Liam McIntyre)
I love how the Voice actor of Taron (Liam from Spartacus) even has two swords like in Spartacus
Taron Malicos seems like an awesome character to expand upon, wish he didnt die or have his fate more ambiguous
lol,i love how his droid just rolled off his back when he got dropped.
BD-1
Reward after battle: Love interest unlocked
Not enough likes.
Malicos' voice actor was amazing. Cal's was awesome too, but just listening to Malicos is like music to my ears.
Fun fact for any of your Spartacus fans out there. The voice actor and model for Taron Malicos is Liam McIntyre (Spartacus himself) from the second season onward!
The bringer of rain:-)
Damn right!
Fallen Order crafted a great villain, Taron Malicos used to be a Jedi master and after order 66 and his time in Dathomir embraced the dark side and also saw the truth of the Jedi, they had fallen long before the Clone Wars and long before he had joined the order himself, he wanted to make a new order, something which he thought was better, if Malicos had his way he would've made an order probably worse than the Jedi. Taron was a very real character and fell to the dark side out of isolation and the presence of the dark side on Dathomir, not many people would've been able to resist the dark side.
i wish she had joined sooner in the story, the game was pretty much done after this
I don’t know why but I freaking love 10:53 it’s the fastest you see Cal fight someone in the game I think and it just reminds me of clone wars fights for some reason
Jedi Learn? That my favorite part just like the way he say that😂
Well, just like anakin, he was right to not like the jedi. Its just that all of their other faults make them loose any credibility, even though they were right.
Taron Malicos looks so badass!
This boss fight made me go insane
Im on my 9th try
Julian Roth final boss fight with second sister is way worse
@@taron1868 the final boss fight is really easy just Dodge and slow with a bit of parry
I feel your pain on grandmaster 5 times. You suffer with me
Trademark treyarch
Black ops 2
I beat it in like 5 minutes with one try
9:52
that lightsaber sound is sick
When I first saw this guy, I thought it would be a plot twist that he’s actually Cordova.
Same here
At this point we should just have a videogame company make a 2 hour cutscene and have that be a new Star Wars movie. If Bioware can make cinema quality commercials for KOTOR then it can be done.
I was wondering why this voice actor sounded so epic, it turns out he voices some of the Warhammer 40000 audiobooks.
This is a huge Spartacus nod and Im loving all of it
When I first heard him speak I was like "is that Spartacus?!" then I saw his face was also modeled after Liam Mcintyre.
thanks for posting this. its awesome.
1:42 WHY IN STAR WARS IS EVERYBODY SO WIDE
HE LOOK LIKE KYLO REN
TARON SWOLICOS
What year is this
4:33 BS, Assage maul and savage turned on each other like packs of feral beasts.
Greater Grievobeast 55 *technically* Assage was a Nightsister, Maul&Savage were Nightbrothers
Yea she said nightsisters u stupid shat
TmanTheTdog so what are they two entirely different cultures/ or groups now? Seems like a loop hole to be a traitorous back stabbing, fog sniffing, OZLings! I ain’t buying what she’s selling!
Greater Grievobeast 55
I mean, don’t the two groups only interact when they want to breed or are recruiting a person for the Sith? (going by the Clone Wars episodes)
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 You obviously didnt watch the clone wars TV series and therefore are a star wars fan wannabe. Yes they are two entirely different culture, they even look like different species
That feeling when you just want to say “yes I will join you”...
Getting sliced into Swiss cheese: *lucky hit*
Bruh my guy Liam McIntyre really do be giving two stand out performances in two of the best games of the year
i really liked him , his speech made sence, i wish we could decide if we join him or not
He mightve been clouded by the dark but he did have a point, the jedi became warriors instead of peacekeepers and they did fall long before the purge.
Oh shit, I just realized they made him look like an old Liam, (his voice actor, aka Spartacus).
I thought he looked familiar.
Spartacus did really well with the VO work in this.
Get that man more work, I'm really impressed with it.
I would have to say out of all the bosses he was the hardest to beat
"Leave you? Alone? Lost and defenseless in this dangerous place? Never." That actually sounds like a pretty awesome good guy line. I was kind of sad he turned out to be a villain after he said that.
didn't know ulfric stormcloak was a jedi.
Boi thats Spartacus not Ulfric
@@michaellorah9051 boi i am aware thats the same actor that played our dude Spartacus. Guess Taron's character design doesn't remind you of Ulfric.
@@exclvsiv no not really. I don't see a resemblance.
Taron's voice actor is the man playing the second Spartacus in the Spartacus series
13:18 "I did not have x for a long time.."
Its pretty amazing that Taron Malicos is voiced by non other than Liam Mcintyre who played Spartacus in season 2-3. And on that show he fought with 1 sword in each hand. What a great homage to a powerful character.
2:38 this line somehow reminded me of spartacus, and then it hit me. It IS Liam lol
Thank you for doing the research, I was listening to the video while reading comments thinking he sounded a lot like Spartacus