I would be interested in what you used for the attack on the arctic barbarians you used, layers and quantities. I know it was siege and range only. Thanks
Your videos are so helpful! Thank you for sharing your hard work and results with us! In this video, at about the 8 minute mark, when you talk about the “Thicc” ground layer, I did not follow which layer you are talking about. Is this referring to the top attacking layer? (Implying that generally the top 3 attacking layers should be made of about the same number of troops? But that the ground march should be more top tier heavy?) Or is this talking about all the lower tier protective layers?
I am not big enough to use only top tier attack layers for barb so I usually just send my PVP march. Some of the bigger folks in my alliance seem to have figured out top heavy march works best for them. I just like to figure out how things work and what people thinks. I tried rallying with my alt on barbs I know I am almost killing the other day and it worked great and reduced injuries by quite a bit. Wasn't enough to kill some bigger ones but was a lot of fun to test out Derick's method.
@@barraberson I do it and have a general understanding of what I see. But I definitely didn't understand certain things until I watched Derrick's videos. A lot of it still flies over my head tbh.
On the 3:37 second mark , i am not sure if I am not sure if i am doing something wrong or not. But in all simulations i ran with different archer range skill book and , it always attacked mounted . As a test , I had enough archers on the attacking side to kill atleast a few ground if they got even 1 turn and on the defender i sent 10k mounted and 10k ground , so whoever hits first will kill the archers in 1 hit In all my battles with different skill books , archers always targetted the mounted , no matter what and then the ground came close and wiped it out
Hmm, that is interesting. I just did this test and saw wounds on ground first (when using range skillbook). come to my discord and we can share our results and see what the difference is. discord.gg/Ufk5GGQx
I do not. It is something I am currently investigating at this moment. I can tell you who attacks first, but I can't tell you the distance, how speed or range works
You ain't gonna absorb anything, because author is not certain of what he is talking. Himself he is still on the journey.. I just hope one day he will get "aha!" moment, and we all gonna be able to extract something from it..
haha. it really depends on what you are attacking. its it a keep? is it a building in Battlefield? There are many factors. I was trying to cover what affects each one.
I don't think I got it.. because I believe you not entirely sure of yourself.. What I have extracted from this video is, basically, if you attacking with range use more range in protective layers and hope for the best. Somehow I believe in you and I believe one day I will get it. Keep working 💪
Basically, all your protective layers are preventing enemies from directly attacking your ranged for 1-2turns. If you use more ground units, it "could" protect your units for additional turns. I hope that simplifies it.
Hi. I'm learning a lot from your video. This is the 4th time I watch it and I would like to understand better what you said on minute 3:35 of the video. I thought archers ALWAYS attacked mounted first because they are always the fastest type of troops. But here you said they attack ground first. I know you've mentioned the Ranged troops range bonus, but I still think mounted is faster. Could you please explain it further?
Old age Evony did have a mechanic where archers will attack the fastest troop. It also has the fastest troop of the same type to attack first. However, I am still testing the mechanics of range/speed as they also have their own variables. As for why ranged attack ground first if the have a lv2 skillbook, this is because the mounted troops are not yet in range. The current theory is that the troops start in staggered positions with ground in the front and mounted in the rear, however another real possibility is that mounted are slower than ground. I am currently in the middle of testing these mechanics and will release a video soon of my progress, what I know and what I do not.
Thank for the Video. Quick question if I may, the link to the Google spreadsheet doesn’t seem to work on my end, it doesn’t open anything specifically…just the generic Google spreadsheets …not a specific one. Thank you
My alliance members and I are always trying to decipher battle reports on barbarians.. is it possible to do a video that focuses on battle mechanics when you rally?
Hey Derrick. So I've watched multiple vids a bunch of times and I just want to to summarize two questions from what I have gathered and figure to be the correct thing to do. 1) I will build 150 mill t1 mounted, it seems everything says I need it, bare minimum. Can you explain why not archers? I'm dying to have an archer meat wall but nothing points to it being good. 2) would building 300 million t1 archers make for a useful defense along with the mounted wall or should I just make a bajillion mounted and forget the other t1? Just 1 million for the other layers and never stop the t1 mounted wall?
Building T1 archers will make for a terrible meat wall. Not only because of their base stats, but also because they are the last troops to be attacked. If you are attacked by ground/Mounted, ranged won't be attacked until your mounted and ground are dead (there is a rare exception that I will cover in a future video) If you are attacked by archers, you will lose all your mounted and higher tier archers before your T1s can protect you. And siege will kill siege and the archers. However, I do recommend making T1 archers (actually big layers of every archer) because they are safe and can destroy enemy layers.
All 5 layers of the attacker (assuming they are the same troop type) will attack the highest tier of the enemy. Those 5 layers will receive counterattack damage if they do not fully kill that layer in one turn. The defending troops will then attack the highest tier of the 5 layers. Does that help?
@@DerrickDefies Derrick, at 4:05 minute that picture (with less attacking layers than defenders) shows in turn 1, 4 layers of attackers attacking corresponding 4 layers of defenders. Then in turn 2, attacking next 4 layers 1 to 1. So, in attacker > defender layer scenario why would all attacking layers attack only a single layer of defender? And then again a single layer in the next turn? (In both scenarios i am assuming same troop type)
@@cdm1949 in this picture, it is assuming that you kill each layer in one hit. T14 will usually attack first. If they kill the top layer, T13 will kill the next later and so on.
@@DerrickDefies ah so if the enemy t14 is not completely killed by the attacking t14 then in the next turn t13 attacks the t14 (and then t12 and so on so forth)? And once we reach t1 and let's say enemy t14 is still not completely killed yet then roll back to t14 to attack rest of defending t14?
@@DerrickDefies i was thinking single player sending two waves in quick succession to a single keep. But two different players sending troops simultaneously to a single keep scenario is relevant to the question too. Does the game treat them in order of arrival regardless of the animation?
@DerrickDefies i got your whisper. thanks for the reports on Barbs. I asked a big player in my alliance to test results on Monday after KE. Hope to make a video on the subject. My team loves Barbs but get a good amount of wounded. Hope after using your info they will significantly reduce there troop wounded. Your reports was for range. We are also going to test if Siege get the same results. Again thanks for the info and continue to post video. Knowing the Evony Mechanics is a game changer. Thanks for breaking the code and giving the info to the Evony world. We are forever grateful.
@@DerrickDefies I have finished my research for siege hp, defense and attack in the academy. Before i start using siege for the barbs event i will also get Grant + Phillip II done to a good level. I also plan to use a combo gear ach/ares/ to get siege attack buffs and set attributes buffs. The ach/ares will have flat refines. civ ring for march size or range bonus? I will test to see which is better.
The things is that all of these mechanics might only based on some observation and there were lot of hidden algorithms that we don't know. One can only just speculate nd evony has the control to change publicly disclosed mechanics.
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Liked and subbed. Best evony creator rn. None of that dumb event overview bs. Thanks for the content!
Thanks! I appreciate the support! I haven't even got the good stuff
I knew I was going to subscribe when I saw the perfection of a cake that you pulled out of the oven.
The video we have all been waiting for 🥳
You are doing gods work
I plan on making 3 videos today 😅
@@DerrickDefies godspeed my friend
Praise him!!! and keep him safe.
@@DerrickDefies Yes, mixed rallies work good. Nice cooking bro (Laki from discord)
I would be interested in what you used for the attack on the arctic barbarians you used, layers and quantities. I know it was siege and range only. Thanks
I have been asked this a lot. I will share it in a video.
@@DerrickDefies Are there viable low-ish wound marches for mounted attacking layers? Us poor PVE players
@@DerrickDefies Still looking for your Barbs layering video!
@@SteveAdeff did you watch my YT short video?
It has a pretty good tip
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Your videos are so helpful! Thank you for sharing your hard work and results with us! In this video, at about the 8 minute mark, when you talk about the “Thicc” ground layer, I did not follow which layer you are talking about. Is this referring to the top attacking layer? (Implying that generally the top 3 attacking layers should be made of about the same number of troops? But that the ground march should be more top tier heavy?) Or is this talking about all the lower tier protective layers?
Thank you big homie for this video... love the ending 🤣🤣🤣
Great content. Keen to see how far you can develop it all. I have some complex numbers I'd like to crunch
Since Barbs only had one top tier attacking layer, Does it make sense to have top heavy marches and the rest protective layers then?
For Barbs, heavy top tiers works the best but be careful not to drag you in top tier pile up. You will suffer later in PvP...
I am not big enough to use only top tier attack layers for barb so I usually just send my PVP march. Some of the bigger folks in my alliance seem to have figured out top heavy march works best for them. I just like to figure out how things work and what people thinks. I tried rallying with my alt on barbs I know I am almost killing the other day and it worked great and reduced injuries by quite a bit. Wasn't enough to kill some bigger ones but was a lot of fun to test out Derick's method.
@@whateverdudes Always look at reports and learn from them...
@@barraberson I do it and have a general understanding of what I see. But I definitely didn't understand certain things until I watched Derrick's videos. A lot of it still flies over my head tbh.
Mostly yes, but make sure you have enough in your lower attacking layers to defeat their 10/11 troops layers quickly
On the 3:37 second mark , i am not sure if I am not sure if i am doing something wrong or not. But in all simulations i ran with different archer range skill book and , it always attacked mounted .
As a test , I had enough archers on the attacking side to kill atleast a few ground if they got even 1 turn and on the defender i sent 10k mounted and 10k ground , so whoever hits first will kill the archers in 1 hit
In all my battles with different skill books , archers always targetted the mounted , no matter what and then the ground came close and wiped it out
Hmm, that is interesting. I just did this test and saw wounds on ground first (when using range skillbook). come to my discord and we can share our results and see what the difference is. discord.gg/Ufk5GGQx
Do higher tiers start behind, with, or in front of lower tiers?
Hello, do you know what is the distance between the attacker and defender when the battle start?
Is it the range of highest tier seige?
I do not. It is something I am currently investigating at this moment. I can tell you who attacks first, but I can't tell you the distance, how speed or range works
Looking forward to content about keep defense! Also - does aptoide work on blue stacks? Thank you!
Defense is My next video, hopefully it comes out soon. And YES it works on any Android emulator. I just made a video on how to install it.
@@DerrickDefies ok I’m going to set it up tonight!! REDWIFI ftw lol
so basically we need at least 15 presets.....lol. again awesome content, but gonna need to watch a few time to fully absorb.
You ain't gonna absorb anything, because author is not certain of what he is talking. Himself he is still on the journey.. I just hope one day he will get "aha!" moment, and we all gonna be able to extract something from it..
haha. it really depends on what you are attacking. its it a keep? is it a building in Battlefield? There are many factors. I was trying to cover what affects each one.
I have watched all of his videos over 20 times, so I completely feel what you are saying. It's not a puzzle game, but it's extremely complex.
I don't think I got it.. because I believe you not entirely sure of yourself.. What I have extracted from this video is, basically, if you attacking with range use more range in protective layers and hope for the best.
Somehow I believe in you and I believe one day I will get it. Keep working 💪
Basically, all your protective layers are preventing enemies from directly attacking your ranged for 1-2turns. If you use more ground units, it "could" protect your units for additional turns. I hope that simplifies it.
Hi. I'm learning a lot from your video. This is the 4th time I watch it and I would like to understand better what you said on minute 3:35 of the video. I thought archers ALWAYS attacked mounted first because they are always the fastest type of troops. But here you said they attack ground first. I know you've mentioned the Ranged troops range bonus, but I still think mounted is faster. Could you please explain it further?
Old age Evony did have a mechanic where archers will attack the fastest troop. It also has the fastest troop of the same type to attack first. However, I am still testing the mechanics of range/speed as they also have their own variables.
As for why ranged attack ground first if the have a lv2 skillbook, this is because the mounted troops are not yet in range. The current theory is that the troops start in staggered positions with ground in the front and mounted in the rear, however another real possibility is that mounted are slower than ground. I am currently in the middle of testing these mechanics and will release a video soon of my progress, what I know and what I do not.
@@DerrickDefies with range bonus don't you think hitting mounted would be easier? Also why would mounted be slower than ground?
Thanks Derrick...I love your work!! ❤
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
Thank for the Video. Quick question if I may, the link to the Google spreadsheet doesn’t seem to work on my end, it doesn’t open anything specifically…just the generic Google spreadsheets …not a specific one. Thank you
Love your videos 🤗🤗🤗
I am a fan of yours as well!
Excellent videos man. Love the detail
"i know, im a monster" lol
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I tried your trick for kill traps. Used a dead keep, regular range march with just 1 troop in each cav layer. Took no wounded, but killed no traps. ??
If the keep is low in traps, they won't trigger any. I haven't done the mechanics to see what exactly determines this.
My alliance members and I are always trying to decipher battle reports on barbarians.. is it possible to do a video that focuses on battle mechanics when you rally?
Sure. I plan on doing a barb video at some point
@@DerrickDefies awesome thanks!!
Hey Derrick. So I've watched multiple vids a bunch of times and I just want to to summarize two questions from what I have gathered and figure to be the correct thing to do. 1) I will build 150 mill t1 mounted, it seems everything says I need it, bare minimum. Can you explain why not archers? I'm dying to have an archer meat wall but nothing points to it being good. 2) would building 300 million t1 archers make for a useful defense along with the mounted wall or should I just make a bajillion mounted and forget the other t1? Just 1 million for the other layers and never stop the t1 mounted wall?
Building T1 archers will make for a terrible meat wall. Not only because of their base stats, but also because they are the last troops to be attacked.
If you are attacked by ground/Mounted, ranged won't be attacked until your mounted and ground are dead (there is a rare exception that I will cover in a future video)
If you are attacked by archers, you will lose all your mounted and higher tier archers before your T1s can protect you.
And siege will kill siege and the archers.
However, I do recommend making T1 archers (actually big layers of every archer) because they are safe and can destroy enemy layers.
1:38 You can call him "Aka" 😂😂😂
Please help me with some defence strategy. What can i do except t1 trap . ( I am k37)
Another great video, thank you
How do the turns look like when attacker has more layers than defender and defender has more than 1? Say, 5 vs 2? Or 5 v 3?
All 5 layers of the attacker (assuming they are the same troop type) will attack the highest tier of the enemy.
Those 5 layers will receive counterattack damage if they do not fully kill that layer in one turn.
The defending troops will then attack the highest tier of the 5 layers.
Does that help?
@@DerrickDefies Derrick, at 4:05 minute that picture (with less attacking layers than defenders) shows in turn 1, 4 layers of attackers attacking corresponding 4 layers of defenders. Then in turn 2, attacking next 4 layers 1 to 1.
So, in attacker > defender layer scenario why would all attacking layers attack only a single layer of defender? And then again a single layer in the next turn?
(In both scenarios i am assuming same troop type)
@@cdm1949 in this picture, it is assuming that you kill each layer in one hit. T14 will usually attack first. If they kill the top layer, T13 will kill the next later and so on.
@@DerrickDefies ah so if the enemy t14 is not completely killed by the attacking t14 then in the next turn t13 attacks the t14 (and then t12 and so on so forth)? And once we reach t1 and let's say enemy t14 is still not completely killed yet then roll back to t14 to attack rest of defending t14?
@@cdm1949 exactly.
Hi Derrick! I’d love some coaching from you!
How about layers for defense?
Also are you still coaching if aptoid is used?
What happens when two generals attack a keep at the same time?
Do you mean in a rally or do you mean when two separate players send individual attacks at a single player?
@@DerrickDefies i was thinking single player sending two waves in quick succession to a single keep. But two different players sending troops simultaneously to a single keep scenario is relevant to the question too. Does the game treat them in order of arrival regardless of the animation?
Hi. TheHound from s592. i sent you a friend request. Interested in the layers used to attack Barbarian Palace....lv4 and lv5. Thanks in advance.
@DerrickDefies i got your whisper. thanks for the reports on Barbs. I asked a big player in my alliance to test results on Monday after KE. Hope to make a video on the subject. My team loves Barbs but get a good amount of wounded. Hope after using your info they will significantly reduce there troop wounded. Your reports was for range. We are also going to test if Siege get the same results.
Again thanks for the info and continue to post video. Knowing the Evony Mechanics is a game changer. Thanks for breaking the code and giving the info to the Evony world. We are forever grateful.
@@theboweryking Be careful when attacking barbs with siege. If your siege are not strong enough, you will spend a lot of gems to heal them.
@@DerrickDefies I have finished my research for siege hp, defense and attack in the academy. Before i start using siege for the barbs event i will also get Grant + Phillip II done to a good level. I also plan to use a combo gear ach/ares/ to get siege attack buffs and set attributes buffs. The ach/ares will have flat refines. civ ring for march size or range bonus? I will test to see which is better.
Id like to get some coaching. Im making too many mistakes
The things is that all of these mechanics might only based on some observation and there were lot of hidden algorithms that we don't know. One can only just speculate nd evony has the control to change publicly disclosed mechanics.
Finallyyyyyy. Let's go
I'm 18.4b and in C1. Small server so I focus on defense
I didn't understand a word of this.
As much as I keep going back to Ebony, I think it's time to just call it a day.
You don't get points for killing traps in Battlefield, but you're funny anyway lol
good stuff
Fantastic
Your slight shade towards other tubers/guides is killing me. ☠
thank you so much
I think you lied about baking a cake. Derrick deLIES
Hey man. Can upload more often ? This is taking a little long. I also would like to say thank you for the good content
I am working everyday on testing the mechanics. I have some big videos coming soon. I promise it will be with the wait
Lol. Your a monster lol
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