Evony Ultimate Defense Guide PART 1

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  • @IrisCoffeeFox
    @IrisCoffeeFox ปีที่แล้ว +8

    OMT!!! People use to laugh at me for my obsession with traps. Thank you for helping explain the mechanics. And your excel sheets!!! Drool worthy!!!!

    • @Jonathan-bv7qs
      @Jonathan-bv7qs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Traps are good the problem is that they are disposable. Once it's destroyed you need full price to replace it.

  • @Kate-hh5dv
    @Kate-hh5dv ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the mechanics of the game. The way you explain the mechanics is helping me make different more effective decisions. Numbers don’t lie!

  • @MrYours
    @MrYours ปีที่แล้ว +15

    before this i always used every trap lvl layed evenly, once these are gone ill be stacking just one, thank you derrick.

    • @phacialoveskakashi2119
      @phacialoveskakashi2119 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, i'm exactly the same way. I thought layering traps was similar to layering a defense march.

    • @jdsilvaca
      @jdsilvaca ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I can build a total of 826,000 traps. When they are gone, I will build T1 traps only

    • @jdsilvaca
      @jdsilvaca ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have Leo III and Dewey on my wall

  • @DerrickDefies
    @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I just wanted to explain a few things I might have missed.
    You have limited space for traps (otherwise they would be super overpowered if you could make a billion T1s)
    Therefore you should delete layers you don't use that are stuck in the 400s
    Also my recommendation of using Abatis (spelled like the game) is merely a meta strategy. It may be better to focus exclusively on Rock or Arrow. This is all new information.
    Lastly. if you are ghosting and you want your traps/archer tower to get a few more kills. you can heal 1 of every troop. This will make the battle last a little longer and allow your tower and traps to gain more kills.
    Part 2 will be about T1s! and how to counter them. You wont want to miss it!
    As always, feel free to ask questions! Thank you for your support.

    • @Keyboard.Warrior.
      @Keyboard.Warrior. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't release part 2😂

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Keyboard.Warrior. Either you don't want players to use T1 defense, or you don't want player to know how to counter it 🤔🤣

    • @Keyboard.Warrior.
      @Keyboard.Warrior. ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DerrickDefies i Don't want player to know how to counter t1🤣🤣🤣

    • @edborodin8471
      @edborodin8471 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @theboweryking
      @theboweryking ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. Please do not give away the kryptonite to the t1 defense.

  • @JFHyoutube
    @JFHyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do appreciate your videos. Get to nerd out and calculate ideas. Helps a lot man thank you

  • @fuwafuwachan2799
    @fuwafuwachan2799 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a hard time reading tables people made for mechanics stuff. I like that your table has that output where it reports the calculation result in text. It's great you explain all these too. Next time I will pay more attention to the building traps quests.....Thanks for sharing!

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you need help or more explanation. You can always contact me via discord or in game DerrickDefies

    • @timjohnson2490
      @timjohnson2490 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DerrickDefiescan you help me

  • @omarbarrada8427
    @omarbarrada8427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Information as usual Derrick keep those videos coming.

  • @theboweryking
    @theboweryking ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video.
    Questions.
    1. If you do not know what traps to build. Build out over 1k at each level and see which one gets used the most? After getting a good sample size, build out the trap layer that kill the most?
    2. Should the person build out layers and retest when they hit milestones....10b, 20b, 30b. Test at every 10b or some other interval?
    3. Smaller players that ghost all high end troops - should they help traps by using a wall combo like Ly Kiet/Tran. with both you get a trap trigger rate of 80% when specialty two of Tran is done.
    or should a debuff combo be better. Given there are no high-end troops a conventional in-city wall combo is wasted.

    • @Triggerfish70
      @Triggerfish70 ปีที่แล้ว

      In response to your plan to figure out which trap to build.... I think your plan may be flawed. For example, If you're hit with ground, the vast majority of the triggered traps will be the ones that target ground, since they are the numerically largest target. Your test will just show you results based on what your opponents used to hit you with during your sample period.... Beyond that and more importantly, if attacked again for example by ground, and you built massive ground killing traps, then you'll get a lot of ground kills. Fine, if you're ghosted. However if you have masses of troops defending, the number killed by traps will be small in comparison to troop v troop kills. Better that the limited number of trap kills be targeted to take out a specific troop type that is not the main troop type. If the traps (and archer tower) take out all of a supporting troop's layers, then the enemy march is weakened by much more than the loss of those numbers of troops. They've lost the benefit of covering troops provided by proper layering and the march will succumb to your defending forces more easily.... Hopefully. Please let me know if I understand this correctly. Also, if archer tower attacks mounted first, then it would make sense to build the trap that also targets mounted. Take them out in the first round or two and layered benefit is gone.

  • @tacoeater_3309
    @tacoeater_3309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks God for blessing us with knowledge

  • @maxxxduel
    @maxxxduel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful Video - Thank you :)

  • @BabyBearSings
    @BabyBearSings ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Derrick 🎉🎉

  • @NekoEspada
    @NekoEspada ปีที่แล้ว +2

    holy crap 2B T1 cavs, that's the most I've seen.

  • @amirnegarestani2329
    @amirnegarestani2329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you prefer 500M t1 cave wall or 100m each for t1, t2 and t3 caves. Why?

  • @SpenceStan888
    @SpenceStan888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what.. there is no "R" in Achaemenidae? 😂, I have been mispronouncing it the whole time !!!
    good video

  • @andreasRyu
    @andreasRyu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work bro, thanks.. 🙏

  • @josephhaaa
    @josephhaaa ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Please make more videos

  • @jameswithrow1685
    @jameswithrow1685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait for part 2

  • @erikvdv2779
    @erikvdv2779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any advice for how to have a mass of of traps and not have them melt down in Battle of Constantinople when the Knights Hall troops hit?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, its very simple. The two things you can do are ensure you always have the knights hall, or two dont play BoC. 😜But being serious, High tier traps are a heavy investment. I dont recommend it unless you have a ton of rss for your disposal or you are participating in Allstars, Chalons, or SvS

  • @mikep509
    @mikep509 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does trap damage affect trap kills? And what tier trap kills what tier troop... example does a T1 rock only target T1 ranged?

  • @HalNinethousand-u8m
    @HalNinethousand-u8m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Derrick. I need to watch this again and take notes, but I get the basics. One thing I’m not sure about is layers. You never really explained why layers are bad. As I’ve grown, I’ve accumulated traps of every level, but I only replace the highest level ones I can build, so the lower levels are all too small in number to activate, but they’re still there. Does that mean there will be turns where no traps activate? Should I dismiss everything below Level 7?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry for the late reply. Layers of traps are not techincally "bad" tbh, its mostly a clickbait title. The reason why I said they are bad is because you have a limited amount of traps that you can hold. Also any traps below a certain amount wont activate and therefore are useless. You should not dismiss any traps, unless you are full on traps.
      Building traps are still expensive on resources, so if you are not competing for allstars or Chalons, I recommend for now, building T1 traps and T6 traps for the gathering event focusing on traps that you have the most spare rss for.

  • @aroncoleman3074
    @aroncoleman3074 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Before this video i figured out that t1 troops alone is not enough. The archer tower/Ban Chao and Traps/Ly Kiet/Russian subs are two things needed to accompany t1 troops.
    This video just validate my thought process. those that said getting Ly Kiet from the tavern is a waste of gold can kiss my 😮.
    Finally...the blacked video art in the video..😅😂😂😂. I bet a few will go back into video to find what im talking about.

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 70,000,000 archer attack is only equivalent to 1000 T15 archers with 1500% attack buff (though with range longer than a T15 siege)
      However, the point is to kill off those protective layers the enemy has. Every time your 3m million T12 archers attack a 1000 troop layer vs a the 2,000,000 main troops layer is a wasted turn.

    • @aroncoleman3074
      @aroncoleman3074 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerrickDefies my thinking exactly. Traps/archer tower and sub troops take out some enemy counter troops. Debuff weaken rest that your in city troops go after. Layer defense like an attack march.

  • @christianrevilloza205
    @christianrevilloza205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the buff( trap attack) given by the Russian Sub City will still work if the sub city is not connected to the Keep?

  • @El.Pollo.Loco.s985
    @El.Pollo.Loco.s985 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't wait for your next video on how to deal with the t1 meat shield keeps...I'm a heartbeat away from turning my k40 10B power keep into a 2B t1 Cav defensive keep. As I have realized that if you can't beat them, join them. After last week's battlefield, I now refuse to attack a trap/t1 keep, that goes double for svs. I really hate it when these smug t1 traps port next to my keep with their hands out begging for me to attack them. I also to my alliance that I won't even rally them anymore.

    • @YurinanAcquiline
      @YurinanAcquiline ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it depends. I have seen some good traps on my server get solo zeroed recently in svs.

    • @El.Pollo.Loco.s985
      @El.Pollo.Loco.s985 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YurinanAcquiline Thx for the words of encouragement. It's not that I can't, it's more of I won't anymore. I can smell a trap a mile away. They are all over the place, like dead fish washed up on the beach.

    • @dondavis8588
      @dondavis8588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop crying 😂 play game

    • @El.Pollo.Loco.s985
      @El.Pollo.Loco.s985 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dondavis8588 You're the kind of dead fish I would attack. Lol, remember you trap types need us to attack you, not the other way around. I will do just that. Stop crying as you put it...I will say the same to you beggars lined up next to my keep with your crappy t1 traps begging for me to attack. I can not wait to see Derrick Defies now video. If is video shows a better way to run you t1s off the map. I'm all for it.

    • @Badme292
      @Badme292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should hit us we f2p so that’s how we get by 😁

  • @4ce5bf154
    @4ce5bf154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm very interesting, never occur to me to use traps to kill the layers, how many lvl8 traps do you recommend having?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally recommend maxing out on a specific one. You can decide based on what you get attacked the least with or what you have the most disposable rss in. My wall is lv 36 and I can only hold 635,000. That is just enough to kill layers of 1000 consistently. This is something that you would want to do more for Allstars/Chalons as its still a bit pricey rss consumption
      Also feel free to experiment with the calculator I made and determine what kind of enemies you expect to attack you.

  • @senorblanco1975
    @senorblanco1975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only k35, should only do 1 type of 7? Dont plan to go k36 for awhile. Thanks!

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  หลายเดือนก่อน

      At K35, I would suggest only building T1 (for efficiency) and T6 for the Gathering event. Building High level traps should be reserved for Allstars/Chalons as they are pricey in resources

    • @senorblanco1975
      @senorblanco1975 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DerrickDefies appreciate that!

  • @lljones0
    @lljones0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, We just zeroed you for entering Hunter Temple on 834. Come again. Thanks 🖖

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lljones0I'll be back tomorrow 😅

  • @mikeredman8758
    @mikeredman8758 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @ckevinch
    @ckevinch ปีที่แล้ว

    Will it be effective to train the fire arrow instead? My thought process being if the trap take out the attacking siege layers before my own siege have to fight them, my siege can instead target the other troop types

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! I am merely giving an example of a troop type to focus on. If most of your defensive strength is in siege, then you want those siege layers to die as quickly as possible so your siege can focus on enemy range. In a battle, Your top tier siege will target enemy siege but your mid/low tier siege wont because they don't have the range to reach them. This will leave the arrows killing off the enemies mid tier/ low tier siege. So yes its absolutely viable. This video is the first time trap mechanics have been released and by no means does anyone (including me) have the best strategy for them.

    • @ckevinch
      @ckevinch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DerrickDefies another question, would it be wise to forego the buffs given by sub city attack in monarch talent in order to make way for about 60% trap triggering chance

  • @priyanshrathore4855
    @priyanshrathore4855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey derrick i have a t1 trap keep usually it alw works good but lest battlefield i got zeroed in one hit by 2m t15 player used and with 2.6 k attack buff how do i counter it as i also got some rumers that building more t2 troops helps t1 to defend against t15 please do help with this I'll share my report and wall general in evony

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you are able to see my new video

  • @colingoodwin661
    @colingoodwin661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had my traps kill more than was destroyed. That number isn't always mirrored.

  • @smh7422
    @smh7422 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not sure if there are any real differences between attacking from inside the hive (to use alliance science buffs) and attacking from outside hive. Can you teste it and share ?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      Alliance buffs work inside and outside of the hive.
      If you want to know the buffs the hive affects, tap on your alliance city and then tap detail.

  • @RiotGrrrrlEvony
    @RiotGrrrrlEvony 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Damn" 😂

  • @hhhhggggggg68
    @hhhhggggggg68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it worth having Ly Thuong Kiet? Or waste of space?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It completely depends on your defensive units, If you are making a defense that focuses heavily on range with very little in siege, than Ly Thoung Kiet is great. As far as using him for trap activation, his 60% along with a 20% from the other wall general will give you a 2.8% activation rate which will lead to your traps capable of taking out layers quite consistently. I can't say whether or not its a viable strategy.
      however, for a small player, I suppose you could put a level 10 dragon on Kiet and ghost just to have your traps give you free points in SvS 🤔
      But, my recommendation is to not base your general on traps. Use the mechanics and come up with your own strategies.

    • @edborodin8471
      @edborodin8471 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why a lvl 10 dragon?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edborodin8471 lvl 10 dragon will keep your wall general alive while ghosting.

    • @edborodin8471
      @edborodin8471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DerrickDefies seriously? Daaaang, I've been missing out. I'll have to work on the dragons then.

    • @hhhhggggggg68
      @hhhhggggggg68 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerrickDefies Which dragon are you using?

  • @ArtinGashi-qg9bx
    @ArtinGashi-qg9bx ปีที่แล้ว

    Question for the next video, how to survive a ground attack as a t1 cav keep??

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Add me in game and share your battle report and wall general. My name is currently DerrickDefies

    • @ArtinGashi-qg9bx
      @ArtinGashi-qg9bx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerrickDefies i wasn't able to find you, did you change your name or something...

    • @kingofbytes
      @kingofbytes ปีที่แล้ว

      Cavs are kryptonite to a ground attack. I eat them for breakfast. What are you having a problem with?

    • @InfamousJYD
      @InfamousJYD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assume one of two things. 1. You have a tiny cav wall. 2. Your refines aren’t right. Make sure you have 8 HP flats for cav and 8 for attack. T1 wall should eat those ground for a snack

  • @gh05t5n1per
    @gh05t5n1per ปีที่แล้ว

    t1 trap days are numbered. K45 update completely obsoletes t1 traps.... new march sizes coupled with 3k% plus buffs and a ground solo = t1 trap death

    • @skrufsterk5802
      @skrufsterk5802 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So what tier is best to build now? No player close to k45 on my server thought, but Im curious 😁

  • @phd3337
    @phd3337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has the link to the file changed? I am unable to open it 😢

  • @xkillerghost4649
    @xkillerghost4649 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve seen reports where a trap killed more units than traps used. It happens. Idk why or how but it has and does happen

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, this happens when strong traps are killing low tier troops.
      If your single T8 trap is strong enough to kill 300 t1s, then you will only lose 1 Trap.
      The traps loss will not exceed the number of troops killed, but it can be less.

  • @chadshelton4348
    @chadshelton4348 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can we get a copy of the spread sheet lol

  • @cdm1949
    @cdm1949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the range of Archer tower?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is an excellent question. with one small issue. I havent figured out where the archer tower is on the battlefield. I dont know if its next to the wall or somewhere in the middle. This is a project I have been working on for a while to come up with the exact range mechanics and formulas. It is really the last piece to the puzzle.
      I can tell you that a T14 Siege with no range buffs will get hit by the archer tower if you were to solo attack an empty keep, however if you add a ring/bracer that gives siege range buffs, you can burn someone without losing any troops to the archer tower.
      However, knowing WHAT happens is different from knowing WHY. The ranges dont make sense in this game and I am still investigating it. Once I figure it out. I will certainly expose it and possibly make a fully usable battle simulator.
      Archer tower has more range than traps but less range than buffed T13-T15 siege.
      My archer tower at its current attack power is equivalent to having 1000 T15 range reinforcements with 1500% buffs.
      I realize that sounds like nothing, but it has insane range and is useful in killing mounted layers.

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nvm. Archer tower has a range of 1500. I just made a huge discovery on range

    • @cdm1949
      @cdm1949 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerrickDefies hey, will it be possible for you to have a look at a battle report? Can't make out how it would have proceeded. Thanks.

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cdm1949 I plan on streaming an teaching people how to read reports. I can take a look at it after my next video 😁

    • @cdm1949
      @cdm1949 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerrickDefies thanks, will wait for it then. I was tying to apply the theories you shared so far but the battle report seemed so random I am left scratching my head.

  • @smh7422
    @smh7422 ปีที่แล้ว

    Btw, do you have a discord channel?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't have a discord channel for me specifically. But you can find me on the Evony Mechanics Discord Channel and Mr. Yours Evony Discord

  • @ryanwilson5222
    @ryanwilson5222 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want PvP, split your Russian and Japan sub cities equality. That’s as simple as it can be. You will almost certainly lose but it’s a PVP stradegy

  • @RoosterII
    @RoosterII ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find you on discord?

  • @jacekb4352
    @jacekb4352 ปีที่แล้ว

    T8 traps could be expensive. I guess I could send low hp 500k t1 troops so they all die and destroy all wall traps as well.

  • @wherethetatosat
    @wherethetatosat ปีที่แล้ว

    9:34 Every pronunciation is correct.

  • @rickywebster6935
    @rickywebster6935 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is this tool obtained

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can find it in my video description

  • @dalehembree1024
    @dalehembree1024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Derrick, I am a spreadsheet fanatic and have been making my own from scratch for Evony mechanics. Would love to contribute what I can to the mechanics discord if you could shoot me an invite. Would greatly appreciate it brother.

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว

      find me on discord and I can send you an invite

  • @NuttyButtery846
    @NuttyButtery846 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... what youre saying is we should use Ly as a defense general 😂

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😬😬😬 not my words. 😅
      I'll let you guys make your own strategies with these mechanics.

    • @NuttyButtery846
      @NuttyButtery846 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have Leo III so i think his triggering is sufficient. 😊

  • @slydog55
    @slydog55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ultimate defence guide, really? I got nothing from that, sorry. Since I don't know what will attack me, what traps do I build?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This video was just trap mechanics
      I recommend only building traps only for Chalons/Allstars/SvS and after rss are something you can expend as they can be expensive.
      If you don't know what traps to build, I recommend focusing on traps you have plenty of RSS for. If you have a lot of food, make traps vs ground, lots of stone? Make rock traps.
      Also, if you defense is a particular troop heavy, you should make traps that kill what they will target.
      If your keep is full of archers, you are unlikely to get rallied with mounted. You will want abatas traps to kill those mounted layers so your archers can target the ground and archer troops.

  • @RoyGJones
    @RoyGJones ปีที่แล้ว

    You spend way too much time on this😳😳

  • @seantan9506
    @seantan9506 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You will lose your traps during BOC

  • @beppe7753
    @beppe7753 ปีที่แล้ว

    Se metti la traduzione dei video in italiano...🙏

  • @ramyahmed9170
    @ramyahmed9170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you translate it in Arabic my friend

  • @ryanwilson5222
    @ryanwilson5222 ปีที่แล้ว

    I left it for this reason. You will never win

  • @salam_gamerreal
    @salam_gamerreal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ngl useless guide basically making every type of trap is more useful because i dont see the point in targeting a single layer since all layers attack you i just wanna debuff em all by a bit and troops do real dmg and traps literally do maximum of 2% dmg in every battle anyways

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@salam_gamerreal the point of traps is not to kill large sums of troops. They are to kill small enemy layers so that your defensive troops can attack the main forces.
      It's similar to when someone send an attack at you without full layers.
      But I agree, this guide is not a full comprehensive guide on defenses and only focuses on traps. I plan on making a part 3 that is more useful for players that discusses defense strategies.

  • @TheDonis01
    @TheDonis01 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your discord?

    • @DerrickDefies
      @DerrickDefies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can contact me directly on discord at DerrickDefies