Bill wasn’t wrong in a lot of his points. Most job losses can be contributed to trade and company’s literally outsourcing employment. I think a lot of politician use immigration as easy answer to a tough problem.
Bill Kristols rude remark about Japan (and denying that their standards are way above the US or most first world countries for a fact) show that he is just a talking head, not based on reality.
Japan is a dying society. The people who live outside of Tokyo have a low standard of living. Americans with only a high school degree can live in a big house and drive a new truck while a college educated Japanese salary man in a mid-size industrial city makes half and lives in a closet.
@@Cuyt24 Japanese median wealth per capita is 119,999 while US is 93,271, thats about 30 percent more. The US has more super wealthy, no question, but also a lot more poor people - it is the most corrupt country on earth today.
@@Cuyt24 What provinces did you goto? When I was in the mountains in Gifu people were living pretty well compared to people out in the boondocks back home in the States.
@pootytang2872 I didn't say weren't living well, Japan is a first world country. There is just limited job opportunities in the countryside of Japan the wages are lower. Unless, you come from a wealthy family of landowners and farmers, you will have to move to Tokyo and live in a closet.
"It's not clear that people lose jobs to immigrants" Lol that old canard. Yes no immigrants will mug you for your job. But the labor has supply and demand aspects.
Indeed. Imagine if there was an enormous influx of cattle across the border. Of course you would expect that to cause the price of beef to drop. But switch cattle for workers and you're expected to believe wages won't budge.
I have an aunt that works in jewniversity in Maine and her job is to teach people not to compliment Somalian English as to not commit a micro aggression.
Early life and education William Kristol was born on December 23, 1952, in New York City, into a Jewish family, the son of Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb.
I’m closer to BAPs point of view on this topic but he clearly came off as stupid in this clip and was just regurgitating simple statements not unlike you would see in the comment section of some trashy blog. He’s reduced to just saying Kristol is wrong about everything (even if it may be somewhat truthful) but can’t apply any merit to his own arguments or refute anything. Also lol at citing Anne Coulter, embarrassing.
What exactly is BAP's argument at the end there? That some Somali community in Minnesota somehow reduce the living standards for suburbanites? Is this more a claim about crime?
Importing third world immigration, ignoring all cultural and social negative impacts, ultimately just undervalues a community. This is why those small towns in USA kids can't just work at the local tobacco farm because its all been outsourced to third world immigrants. So now those kids are basically jobless and don't get to build experience in regular work, etc.
Bap got owned in this. We do have history of taking in folks from all over and there are problems of course. Bap is apparently from Romania which is not quite 3rd world but they live as second class citizens in Europe and I saw their conditions in Geneva Switzerland, not so good. Bap is fighting an uphill battle with this argument. Immigrants, whether you like them or not are a part of the United States of America’s fabric. Going against it has never ended well. Furthermore, working class whites aren’t exactly signing up to work in big agriculture or going into trades either .
Working class whites wont do those jobs as it doesnt pay well enough, because the wages have been supressed by mass uncontrolled immigration of cheap labour. "Immigrants" who were the foundation were from largely western Europe until only the the last century (if that). These were culturally close enough for the creation of a cohesive and great society. The current mass waves are not.
How much of that statement do you actually believe? US didn’t even take Jews fleeing hitler. Romanians don’t live as second class citizens. They live consummate with their class, behavior and education. There is no long history of immigration to us. It stopped and started. The history of assimilation was hard and dirty but it worked and that was with Europeans. Assimilation is not being tried with the third world because it doesn’t work. American is being asked to assimilate to them. Big ag? Yeah whites would want to be running the farms not day laborers on modern day latifundia. That’s a policy by the way. Easily reversible.
Can't belive I'm gonna side with Kristol. I see hivemind in comments. "Do you think Skmalis fit very well in Minnesota?" Damn, I thought this dude was jokingly racist.
That “yes” is unmistakable
Most levelheaded response from an academic when you suggest the economy is more than just the GDP
Bill wasn’t wrong in a lot of his points. Most job losses can be contributed to trade and company’s literally outsourcing employment. I think a lot of politician use immigration as easy answer to a tough problem.
Fascinating to see how Kristol's face immediately turned bright red. Very interesting indeed.
How make u feel?
Bill Kristols rude remark about Japan (and denying that their standards are way above the US or most first world countries for a fact) show that he is just a talking head, not based on reality.
Japan doesn't have high standards. Stop having a weird fetish for Japan. Have you even been there?
Japan is a dying society. The people who live outside of Tokyo have a low standard of living. Americans with only a high school degree can live in a big house and drive a new truck while a college educated Japanese salary man in a mid-size industrial city makes half and lives in a closet.
@@Cuyt24 Japanese median wealth per capita is 119,999 while US is 93,271, thats about 30 percent more. The US has more super wealthy, no question, but also a lot more poor people - it is the most corrupt country on earth today.
@@Cuyt24 What provinces did you goto? When I was in the mountains in Gifu people were living pretty well compared to people out in the boondocks back home in the States.
@pootytang2872 I didn't say weren't living well, Japan is a first world country. There is just limited job opportunities in the countryside of Japan the wages are lower. Unless, you come from a wealthy family of landowners and farmers, you will have to move to Tokyo and live in a closet.
Yes Hello
“You’ve been wrong on everything for decades.” And then he lost it. What a child. Throws a tantrum when criticized.
"It's not clear that people lose jobs to immigrants"
Lol that old canard. Yes no immigrants will mug you for your job. But the labor has supply and demand aspects.
Indeed. Imagine if there was an enormous influx of cattle across the border. Of course you would expect that to cause the price of beef to drop. But switch cattle for workers and you're expected to believe wages won't budge.
It's literally supply and demand. I don't understand why people don't understand, mass immigration pushes wages down, full stop.
Weren’t some tech workers given few weeks to train their Indian replacements?
Costin strike with vehemence and the eloquence of wrath
The somali line had me crack up haha BAP is really one of a kind 4:40
The people will learn
I have an aunt that works in jewniversity in Maine and her job is to teach people not to compliment Somalian English as to not commit a micro aggression.
This is like groyper wars for old jewish people
it’s like groyper wars but without the afros and brown skin lmao
@@mildass6173 and also jewish
Look at the smugness of Bill Kristol.
Costin is Correct
yes hello. i have sugars.
Yes hello? Is this ok
Muh name Jamal
Early life and education
William Kristol was born on December 23, 1952, in New York City, into a Jewish family, the son of Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb.
"No, you're helping the globalists by spreading grug antisemitism you wignat!"
@ezrapoundinghoes Regardless of Costin having some ashk ancestry, it’s clear from clips like this that he’s a dedicated reactionary.
@@douglasmacarthur702nothing new for the Jewish revolutionary spirit.
World class chickenhawk.
bap is also jewish, the "early life" meme is confirmation bias
Costin 👑
'Maybe people don't tell pollsters the truth' 😂😂😂 🤮 oh boy
What means?
BAP is king always
king. kristol nervous laughs his way through a total L. TOTAL WAR
Where is this from? And is that really BAP's voice asking the questions?
Definitely BAP, not sure where this is from though.
Do u like this
Lol is this Jiu Jitsu Joe on an alt?
Wat means?
2016
Is that BAP?
@@carlosfajardo9461 "they say", yeah he only has the exact same voice and everything as BAP lol.
Yes obviously
Bill Kristol never has to live with consequences of his own politics. He can live well away from that which he advocates , like most talking heads.
Yes Hello friend I have sugar
X is for beginners, being racist in a public forum is hard. Mainstream Republicans don't want to associate themselves with racism.
Strong jewish accent
Another win for the Jews
why Kristol mean to lgbt people?
Open Borders For Israel, william.
Yes hello
Costin told the truth in a question and got a lie in the answer.... brilliant
Total macrobian victory
I’m closer to BAPs point of view on this topic but he clearly came off as stupid in this clip and was just regurgitating simple statements not unlike you would see in the comment section of some trashy blog. He’s reduced to just saying Kristol is wrong about everything (even if it may be somewhat truthful) but can’t apply any merit to his own arguments or refute anything. Also lol at citing Anne Coulter, embarrassing.
Groyped, lol
What exactly is BAP's argument at the end there? That some Somali community in Minnesota somehow reduce the living standards for suburbanites? Is this more a claim about crime?
"reduce the living standards" Yes. By increasing the labor pool this decreases wages. And that is just the economic argument.
Importing third world immigration, ignoring all cultural and social negative impacts, ultimately just undervalues a community. This is why those small towns in USA kids can't just work at the local tobacco farm because its all been outsourced to third world immigrants. So now those kids are basically jobless and don't get to build experience in regular work, etc.
"How does this affect you personally?"
A bad showing for both men, I would say.
Somalis made Minnesota
😂 🤡
Bap got owned in this. We do have history of taking in folks from all over and there are problems of course. Bap is apparently from Romania which is not quite 3rd world but they live as second class citizens in Europe and I saw their conditions in Geneva Switzerland, not so good.
Bap is fighting an uphill battle with this argument. Immigrants, whether you like them or not are a part of the United States of America’s fabric. Going against it has never ended well.
Furthermore, working class whites aren’t exactly signing up to work in big agriculture or going into trades either .
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Working class whites wont do those jobs as it doesnt pay well enough, because the wages have been supressed by mass uncontrolled immigration of cheap labour. "Immigrants" who were the foundation were from largely western Europe until only the the last century (if that). These were culturally close enough for the creation of a cohesive and great society. The current mass waves are not.
How much of that statement do you actually believe?
How much of that statement do you actually believe? US didn’t even take Jews fleeing hitler. Romanians don’t live as second class citizens. They live consummate with their class, behavior and education. There is no long history of immigration to us. It stopped and started. The history of assimilation was hard and dirty but it worked and that was with Europeans. Assimilation is not being tried with the third world because it doesn’t work. American is being asked to assimilate to them. Big ag? Yeah whites would want to be running the farms not day laborers on modern day latifundia. That’s a policy by the way. Easily reversible.
Do you think Pakistanis integrate well in the UK? Grooming gangs etc?
Can't belive I'm gonna side with Kristol. I see hivemind in comments. "Do you think Skmalis fit very well in Minnesota?" Damn, I thought this dude was jokingly racist.
Lol loser
Lmao
Racism is good.