Nice reference to Matt. Yup he does seem to do some sketchy stuff now & again. The 1080 looks much better now. Never thought undressing a tractor would be fun to watch, go figure. Thanks for sharing.
Diesel Creek is one of my favorite channels, always entertaining. Well I think it is to do with peeling back the layers to find that there is something clean and original underneath. Thanks for watching.
Go for it. Once more, I have absolutely no idea on the state of the transmission. I haven't even tried to start it since you had it running last. If it drives I will need to move it into the shud.
Tractors starting to look good mate. Just shows taking a little off here and there makes a difference plus a little heavy steel to use on other projects...👍
Thanks for watching. I am amazed by the state of everything. Before the crane was fitted it must have been arable top work only, it's in superb condition!
Great video, good to see you back, that sound interference is lord mucks drone watching what your up to. She's starting to look better, will you put cab back on ?
Now it really look like a proper tractor now!! So so much nycier but.. i'm pretty sure that it will be much better for the next time you do something new in it!! It surely deserves ir!! Cheers!!
Looking good , yes !!! Totally with you on the bolt all sorts , know the frustration will , I reckon the “special place in hell “ is getting a bit full as I ve sent a lot there my self 😂 . Look forward to seeing the 1080 in her full glory, well done 👍
Starting to take on the look of an American style platform tractor 🤔 never having seen one without a cab before 👍 that subframe is made of some good metal 💪 have a safe and successful trip👍
Well it was built as an American open platform, that particular cab was an after market thing and it looks like an afterthought to me. Thanks for watching
Genuine Agco seem a bit hit and miss at the moment. You could see the remains of the sparex label they’d peeled off on the bag and stuck their own label on in one of my orders recently… Nice video
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I know that Agco really don’t value anything that was made at Banner Lane anymore. You’d think they would keep a bit of an eye on market values of their older machines and see that there is a demand for them. Have you got their online parts book though? That is brilliant
@@davidrushworth3218 I use the online parts books a lot, they are a really useful resource to have, or they were until they had a ransomware attack a few months back now my account doesn't seem to work like it used to. Unfortunately Massey Ferguson are not the company they once were. A lot of very good reproduction parts are available from Turkey for the 100 series, where a lot of the production equipment went when Banner Lane closed, but you need a container load at a time before they will ship to the UK. I have bought from them in the past, but customs and import duties are getting to be more and more of a problem. They still make some obscure and really hard to find parts though and are a good backup if you can put together a big enough order. John Conaty in Ireland uses them and may be able to source odd things if required. Also I make regular trips to the US where tractor recyclers are much better organized than they are here. Pity we seem to care so little about our agricultural heritage.
That’s got me thinking now because some of the Agco stuff I’ve had recently has said made in Turkey on it and it was some of the far better parts too. I brought a 399 recently that was putting coolant into the engine oil down to timing case issues and the new timing case is Agco from Turkey. Perkins had no stock of that sort atall. Lovely part and then they let it down by supplying a cork gasket for the timing cover which I’m sure you can guess is almost impossible to keep in place without it squashing out so now got a perkins gasket coming for it thats that dark grey stuff they use now. Cheers for that advice, I’ll try John Conaty next time, my girlfriend isn’t keen on him though, she rang him about a pick up hitch recently and he put the phone down on her!!! Another customs job getting stuff from Ireland though
That's looking alot better. My friend had one and the PTO was stuck on so we put it under load with the clutch down but wouldn't release. It required a bit more investigation but we never had time to do unfortunately.
Would be interesting to get a look at the forward side of the clutch bell housing to see if the additional cast in attachment bosses have been incorporated yet. The addition of these items was in anticipation of the September 1970 legislation that required all tractors in England (and possibly mainland Europe too ?) to have Safety Frames fitted to prevent injury or death. The bosses were added late 1969 at least on Banner Lane (and presumeably Beauvais) produced tractors. The brief look at the forward side of the clutch bell housing on this particular tractor does not appear to have them incorporated yet further reinforcing my own view that this may have been a development 'mule' sent to France from the US for development/homologation purposes
My pointless comment. It must have been around that time, 1969/70 a neighbour farmer got crushed and killed as his DB 990 rolled over on him. I remember walking past his farm and saw all 3 emergency services in attendance. Shortly after my folks fitted that really crude angular "safety cab" to our MF135 - now that was ugly!
This is a Detroit built tractor, serial number points to early 1968. I am 99% sure that this was a pre-prod model shipped to France for evaluation or training or whatever whatever and sold off afterwards.
Good stuff, nice to see the 1080 liberated from the French blue belly frame. It was probably used for scraping stinky cheese off the floor in some artisan cheese factory. Diesel Creek, a really great channel. They have a lot of old abandoned gear in the US of A. Have a top trip across there young man!
I wish we had so much abandoned stuff over her, but unfortunately it either gets scrapped or the owners "know what they've got" and want silly money for it. Thanks for watching.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Very true. I know of a few rare tractors rotting away and a very early Land Rover (1949) that is sat almost rotten away and has a tree growing up through the remains of the chassis next to the gearbox. Will the old bugger sell it? No. But his distant relatives will when he drops dead. He is 85, lives alone, no immediate family and his farm is also run down too. He is sat a very chunky fortune and yet live in a semi derelict house. He admits, neither he or his parents spent any money on the house. Stupid, saving and scrimping for relatives he never sees. Such is life.
@@JonDingle I have never understood the mentality that would rather see something rot away beyond use than let it go for a reasonable price to somebody who can make use of it. Surely getting something for it is better than getting nothing at all?
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately others don't. An old farmer said to me once on a visit to see if he would sell an old Land Rover he had, "We have been on this farm since 1950 and never sold any tackle only livestock". He died within the year and he didn't get to take any tackle with him! I don't know what it is with some folk. They cannot stand the thought of someone doing something where they have failed.
Good job. Serious subframe.. obviously designed for lifetime warranty 😆. Looks better already 😉. Best thing to come out of finding extra long bolts is they just snap off that is unless there captive then it a double feck 😆🙄 stay safe 🏴
There's a multi power filter in front of the radiator and on a round axle tractor, the strainer is on top of the pump, you need to take the lift cover off to get to it. On a square axle, it can be removed from underneath the gearbox.
Every time I’ve seen that cab It makes me wonder if the sugar beet plant it came from employed midgets It sort of looked a bit squat. Time well spent getting shut of it and all that excess ironmongery looking all the better for it. How’s about painting the old air cleaner top red with white spots and putting on the 7810🤔 just for the reaction 🍄?
Using a load of different sized fastners must be a french thing, their cars are the same, need half your toolbox out just to do a straight forward job. Is the cab going back on or are you leaving it off
Good question. I'm not one of those people who takes cabs off classics because it makes them somehow more "authentic", I spent too long driving tractors without any cab at all. If they are factory or dealer, I usually leave them, but since the 1080 is US made and US spec, the factory cab is completely different. I just think this particular cab is ugly and the flat fenders look better without it.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I agree with you there, it does look nicer without it. Would a cab off a similar sized massey be an option or would that be too much hassle
@@weegrant1980 I have seen a 1080 with a supercab off a 595 which looked ok, and I think the Duncan from a 200 could be made to fit. There were some other Continental cabs for the 1080 that didn't look too bad as well. But that thing I took off wasn't even ROPS, it was just weatherproofing.
Hello, can you help me my mates mf135 hydraulics are playing up the draft lever works the hydraulics ok but the positition lever does nothing any ideas many thanks
If draft control still works, it's less likely to be a control valve problem and more likely to be a problem with the linkage inside the top cover. I have seen the end fall off the position control lever shaft too which causes something like what you describe. The bad news is that it's probably going to be top cover off to fix it. The good news is that it's all pretty simple when you get inside.
I was familiar with Wengers back in the+1980s yes, if you need it they no doubt have it. Like that 1080 series. I used the 100series which I liked too. She is going to be nice when finished. MF always in my book.
Wenger's is always a good place to visit and great people to deal with. Absolutely straight up family business. I've always liked MF but I king of fancy a big Allis or maybe an Oliver next. Thanks for watching.
Hi Love the Diesel Creek ref👍
One of my favorite channels. Thanks for watching.
Yes, the uglyness is removed and it is looking better. I'll be waiting for the next one. You have a lot of scrap metal there now.
A lot of scrap metal that might get turned into something else at some point.
Thanks for watching.
Looks like i,m going somwhere special.ha ha.
Good vid.Cheers.
Thanks for watching
Remines me alot of a 188, keep up the good work.
Only not nearly as good! Thanks for watching.
I kinda liked that cab!🤣🤦♂. After this weeks weather, you’d need it 🤦♂
You want it?
@@ClarenceFudWeasel not sure it’ll fit my mb trac 🤪🤣
Looks so much better ! And the telehandler ! The universal tool we all need !
Life would definitely be hard without one. Thanks for watching.
Nice reference to Matt. Yup he does seem to do some sketchy stuff now & again. The 1080 looks much better now. Never thought undressing a tractor would be fun to watch, go figure. Thanks for sharing.
Diesel Creek is one of my favorite channels, always entertaining. Well I think it is to do with peeling back the layers to find that there is something clean and original underneath. Thanks for watching.
I agree, it’s looking more like a farm tractor again. As far as a cold snack we call it a hydraulic lunch or a pork chop in a can!
A Surly West Coast IPA usually does the job for me. Thanks for watching.
Looks 200 times better without the cab and the under body kit. A lovely project now. Have a good time in America
Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Looking better now. 👍
Thank you for watching.
Good stuff Clarence, the more she is shedding, the prettier she is getting, good work, and safe travels👌👍🙏🙂
Thank you, and thanks for watching.
I will do a 'Will It Move ?' video on that next week and if it does, I will send it into next month 👌🏼😎
Go for it. Once more, I have absolutely no idea on the state of the transmission. I haven't even tried to start it since you had it running last. If it drives I will need to move it into the shud.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel If it drives, I will drag that 175 out and park it in its place.
Love your work, Fudster.
Thank you for watching.
Tractors starting to look good mate. Just shows taking a little off here and there makes a difference plus a little heavy steel to use on other projects...👍
I think you might see that steel in another project over the next few months.
Congratulations on a Great transformation. Less of an ugly duckling - more of a mucky swan. Tin work looks amazingly solid.
Thanks for watching. I am amazed by the state of everything. Before the crane was fitted it must have been arable top work only, it's in superb condition!
Looking great!!
Thank you for watching
Great video, good to see you back, that sound interference is lord mucks drone watching what your up to. She's starting to look better, will you put cab back on ?
If it was I'd have dropped a fucking cluster bomb by now...
And then you would never find out what happened to your mother's Clarice Cliff Lotus tea set.
Now it really look like a proper tractor now!! So so much nycier but.. i'm pretty sure that it will be much better for the next time you do something new in it!! It surely deserves ir!! Cheers!!
Thank you for watching
It's looking alot better now. Alot of hard work gone on there hope your not in to much pain with your shoulder nothing worse. 👍
Thanks for watching. Back at the doctor next week.
Looking a lot better. 👍
I just need to get the lights and linkage sorted out and I think it's going to look fine.
Thanks for watching.
great video as always it to see you back making videos
Thanks for your support.
Looking good , yes !!! Totally with you on the bolt all sorts , know the frustration will , I reckon the “special place in hell “ is getting a bit full as I ve sent a lot there my self 😂 . Look forward to seeing the 1080 in her full glory, well done 👍
Thank you for watching. We'll get there!
Starting to take on the look of an American style platform tractor 🤔 never having seen one without a cab before 👍 that subframe is made of some good metal 💪 have a safe and successful trip👍
Well it was built as an American open platform, that particular cab was an after market thing and it looks like an afterthought to me.
Thanks for watching
The old girl has 'character', just not the looks but you'll get there! Enjoy your time stateside.
Definitely. Really starting to grow on me. Thanks and thanks for watching.
Genuine Agco seem a bit hit and miss at the moment. You could see the remains of the sparex label they’d peeled off on the bag and stuck their own label on in one of my orders recently… Nice video
Thanks. It's true unfortunately, AGCO parts for older machines do seem a bit hit and miss these days.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I know that Agco really don’t value anything that was made at Banner Lane anymore. You’d think they would keep a bit of an eye on market values of their older machines and see that there is a demand for them. Have you got their online parts book though? That is brilliant
@@davidrushworth3218 I use the online parts books a lot, they are a really useful resource to have, or they were until they had a ransomware attack a few months back now my account doesn't seem to work like it used to. Unfortunately Massey Ferguson are not the company they once were. A lot of very good reproduction parts are available from Turkey for the 100 series, where a lot of the production equipment went when Banner Lane closed, but you need a container load at a time before they will ship to the UK. I have bought from them in the past, but customs and import duties are getting to be more and more of a problem. They still make some obscure and really hard to find parts though and are a good backup if you can put together a big enough order. John Conaty in Ireland uses them and may be able to source odd things if required. Also I make regular trips to the US where tractor recyclers are much better organized than they are here. Pity we seem to care so little about our agricultural heritage.
That’s got me thinking now because some of the Agco stuff I’ve had recently has said made in Turkey on it and it was some of the far better parts too. I brought a 399 recently that was putting coolant into the engine oil down to timing case issues and the new timing case is Agco from Turkey. Perkins had no stock of that sort atall. Lovely part and then they let it down by supplying a cork gasket for the timing cover which I’m sure you can guess is almost impossible to keep in place without it squashing out so now got a perkins gasket coming for it thats that dark grey stuff they use now. Cheers for that advice, I’ll try John Conaty next time, my girlfriend isn’t keen on him though, she rang him about a pick up hitch recently and he put the phone down on her!!! Another customs job getting stuff from Ireland though
I'll send you some links to some of the suppliers in Turkey that might be useful.
That's looking alot better.
My friend had one and the PTO was stuck on so we put it under load with the clutch down but wouldn't release. It required a bit more investigation but we never had time to do unfortunately.
IPTO clutch pack and brake are weak points on these. Thanks for watching.
Got love mat from diesel creek he a good lad.
Certainly one of my favourite channels.
Thanks for watching.
Would be interesting to get a look at the forward side of the clutch bell housing to see if the additional cast in attachment bosses have been incorporated yet. The addition of these items was in anticipation of the September 1970 legislation that required all tractors in England (and possibly mainland Europe too ?) to have Safety Frames fitted to prevent injury or death. The bosses were added late 1969 at least on Banner Lane (and presumeably Beauvais) produced tractors. The brief look at the forward side of the clutch bell housing on this particular tractor does not appear to have them incorporated yet further reinforcing my own view that this may have been a development 'mule' sent to France from the US for development/homologation purposes
My pointless comment. It must have been around that time, 1969/70 a neighbour farmer got crushed and killed as his DB 990 rolled over on him. I remember walking past his farm and saw all 3 emergency services in attendance. Shortly after my folks fitted that really crude angular "safety cab" to our MF135 - now that was ugly!
This is a Detroit built tractor, serial number points to early 1968. I am 99% sure that this was a pre-prod model shipped to France for evaluation or training or whatever whatever and sold off afterwards.
Looks better with out that frame. i do like your pickup very jealous haha
Really does look better doesn't it. And thanks!
Sir where is the stainer of hydraulic for massey 1080 thanks
Good stuff, nice to see the 1080 liberated from the French blue belly frame. It was probably used for scraping stinky cheese off the floor in some artisan cheese factory.
Diesel Creek, a really great channel. They have a lot of old abandoned gear in the US of A.
Have a top trip across there young man!
I wish we had so much abandoned stuff over her, but unfortunately it either gets scrapped or the owners "know what they've got" and want silly money for it. Thanks for watching.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Very true. I know of a few rare tractors rotting away and a very early Land Rover (1949) that is sat almost rotten away and has a tree growing up through the remains of the chassis next to the gearbox. Will the old bugger sell it? No. But his distant relatives will when he drops dead. He is 85, lives alone, no immediate family and his farm is also run down too.
He is sat a very chunky fortune and yet live in a semi derelict house.
He admits, neither he or his parents spent any money on the house.
Stupid, saving and scrimping for relatives he never sees. Such is life.
@@JonDingle I have never understood the mentality that would rather see something rot away beyond use than let it go for a reasonable price to somebody who can make use of it. Surely getting something for it is better than getting nothing at all?
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately others don't. An old farmer said to me once on a visit to see if he would sell an old Land Rover he had, "We have been on this farm since 1950 and never sold any tackle only livestock". He died within the year and he didn't get to take any tackle with him!
I don't know what it is with some folk. They cannot stand the thought of someone doing something where they have failed.
Like you said it looks like a tractor now not a wrecking ball in making
Definitely, I'm starting to like it. Thanks for watching.
Starting to look like a decent 1080 with all that crap off it now 👌👍👍
I'm starting to think that keeping it was the right thing to do. Thanks for watching.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Deff keep , its not a tractor you see that often
Hope your keeping well and working away on the Massey Fergusons
I am! Thank you
The air cleaner you took off looks exactly the same as a Ford 6810 one if you wanted to replace it but looks well with the tall one on
Thank you, I like the look too, and it was a factory option as well.
Excellent entertainment, is your shoulder strained from carrying Lord Muck?
I think it's from when he threw one of his hammers at me in a fit of ire, like a small East-Anglian Thor.
It's from him tugging me off mostly.
Don't laugh, it was written into my employment contract.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I can't help laughing - you still haven't realised it's a zero hours contract...
Seems to be a lot of tugging for zero hours
Starting to look really good, keep on doing what you do. I assume that shortly warm snacks will be possible?
Depends entirely on the snack. A cold snack warmed up isn't a good thing at all.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel However a warm snack is most welcome on a cold day when you have been fighting a recalcitrant piece of cold metal.
Thats a Lot Better Thanks again
And thank you for watching.
Good job. Serious subframe.. obviously designed for lifetime warranty 😆. Looks better already 😉. Best thing to come out of finding extra long bolts is they just snap off that is unless there captive then it a double feck 😆🙄 stay safe 🏴
I think you will be seeing parts of that subframe again in the future, especially that two foot square of 3/8 inch plate. Thanks for watching.
Sir plz help me i cant not find the strainer of hydraulic massey 1080 thanks
There's a multi power filter in front of the radiator and on a round axle tractor, the strainer is on top of the pump, you need to take the lift cover off to get to it. On a square axle, it can be removed from underneath the gearbox.
Every time I’ve seen that cab It makes me wonder if the sugar beet plant it came from employed midgets It sort of looked a bit squat. Time well spent getting shut of it and all that excess ironmongery looking all the better for it. How’s about painting the old air cleaner top red with white spots and putting on the 7810🤔 just for the reaction 🍄?
It would be an improvement on what's on it currently
So would a one way ticket to Anglian Metals
@@ClarenceFudWeasel let's put it up against that old 135 Dynashift thing of yours...
@@LordMuck You mean my 3125?
@@ClarenceFudWeasel that 135 with a better cab thing you've got
My Mrs would benefit from some ugliness deletion. What engine is in the 1080?
It's a 4.318 Perkins. What engine is in your Mrs?
The good kind!
Using a load of different sized fastners must be a french thing, their cars are the same, need half your toolbox out just to do a straight forward job. Is the cab going back on or are you leaving it off
Good question. I'm not one of those people who takes cabs off classics because it makes them somehow more "authentic", I spent too long driving tractors without any cab at all. If they are factory or dealer, I usually leave them, but since the 1080 is US made and US spec, the factory cab is completely different. I just think this particular cab is ugly and the flat fenders look better without it.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I agree with you there, it does look nicer without it.
Would a cab off a similar sized massey be an option or would that be too much hassle
@@weegrant1980 I have seen a 1080 with a supercab off a 595 which looked ok, and I think the Duncan from a 200 could be made to fit. There were some other Continental cabs for the 1080 that didn't look too bad as well. But that thing I took off wasn't even ROPS, it was just weatherproofing.
Hello, can you help me my mates mf135 hydraulics are playing up the draft lever works the hydraulics ok but the positition lever does nothing any ideas many thanks
If draft control still works, it's less likely to be a control valve problem and more likely to be a problem with the linkage inside the top cover. I have seen the end fall off the position control lever shaft too which causes something like what you describe. The bad news is that it's probably going to be top cover off to fix it. The good news is that it's all pretty simple when you get inside.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Thank you will try that
Better already sir.
I'll do another update some time soon.
You need to see if Dangerous Dave from George Sanders can come over and help whenever you need to do something sketchy.
He's been having a bit of a rough time, poor old Dave, I think he needs a break.
I was familiar with Wengers back in the+1980s yes, if you need it they no doubt have it. Like that 1080 series. I used the 100series which I liked too. She is going to be nice when finished. MF always in my book.
Wenger's is always a good place to visit and great people to deal with. Absolutely straight up family business. I've always liked MF but I king of fancy a big Allis or maybe an Oliver next.
Thanks for watching.
Five different sizes of too long by a mile fasteners?Throw in some razor sharp sheet metal stampings for that extra special torrent of profanity.
Oh yes, that's why we love this stuff. Thanks for watching.
Oh No let the original parts in the Traktor!
I mean the Air intake
I knew it would cause debate. Don't worry, I'll repair the old one and keep it so I have a choice.
🚜🚜🚜🚜😎😎😎👍
That’s better
Isn't it just! Thanks for watching.