A Subaru with a Toyota Hybrid System
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- See the amazing TH2A transmission of the 2019 and above Subaru Crosstrek Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV). This all-wheel drive (AWD) vehicle and transmission use the impressive Toyota Hybrid System (THS). A special thank you goes to Subaru of America for the vehicle donations and support for technician training at Weber State University.
TIMELINE:
0:00 Start
0:07 Introduction
1:26 Integrated Toyota Hybrid System (THS)
2:37 Mechanical All-Wheel Drive
3:20 A 2019 Toyota RAV4 P710 Transaxle to compare
4:30 Motor/Generator 2 (MG2) Rotor and Stator
5:08 Motor/Generator 1 (MG1) Rotor and Stator
6:00 8.875 kWh High Voltage Li-Ion Battery
6:14 Electric Vehicle (EV) Driving Mode Components
7:00 MG2 Torque and Power Specifications
8:12 EV Driving Mode Operation
9:23 The front differential ring and pinion gearset
10:33 MUST SEE: EV Driving Mode Power Flow
11:18 Hybrid Electric Vehicle (HEV) Driving Mode Components
12:09 The three functions of MG1
15:33 HEV Driving Mode Operation
17:44 MUST SEE: Obtaining Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Gear Ratios
19:45 MUST SEE: Three Types of CVTs
20:30 See the combined gear stack for EV and HEV operation
24:18 Parallel Hybrid operation and Series Hybrid Operation
25:55 Front-Wheel Drive is the default mode
26:20 Additional Components needed for All-Wheel Drive (AWD)
27:27 Electromagnetically Activated AWD Clutch Pack
29:57 MUST SEE: The Ball Ramp Clutch Actuator for AWD operation
32:33 See the two shafts the AWD clutch connects together
34:42 See the Complete combined gear stack for EV, HEV, and AWD operation
35:16 The oil pump
36:28 MUST SEE: The complete transmission assembly and cutaway operation
39:55 Video Summary
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As a Subaru tech, I found this very informative! I wish they would make more of these, as the eCVT through gear action is much more reliable than the pull chain CVTs in all of our other vehicles. PHEV is a great transition to full EV adoption as it gradually increases the load on the power grid for charging. Thank you professor, I enjoyed the video and the cutaway transmission.
totally agree with you
To help avoid the disaster of the total electric grid collapse if and when the incorrect politically mandates in the future hybrid vehicles are the intelliigent realistic choice.
O*U*T*S*T*A*N*D*I*N*G*! A model demonstration, clear, concise, accurate, logical, and on a personal note, I found it quite delightful! Thank you very much Professor Kelly for showing the rest of the world how it is done!
Thank you so much!
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This is a really neat application of the e-CVT. The cutaway you and Nash put together is fantastic. Thank you!
Thank you, I will tell Nash.
Amazing how rhe "NEW" is always just an inovation of old tech that transmission looks just like an old manual gear box with electric motors an amazing video thank you for your servive 👏👏👍
I was weirdly STUCK to my TV screen watching this specific video... the rear drive clutch is a truly fascinating engineering design... using a low power /low torque electromagnet clutch to trigger a high-force mechanical "ball-ramp" actuator that utilizes the high-power system to actuate the "real" clutch-pack... so cool!
Apparently as the clutch friction disc's wear and become thinner, the balls will travel farther up the ramp to compensate for the wear... nice.
I design small electro-mechanical systems, I'll have to remember this trick!
Every body realize that Synergy drive and plug-in from Toyota Prius is a genius design 😎
Thanks John.
Thank you!
You're putting more effort in editing the videos and it really shows. I like that you've made it look a lot fancier yet not changed the base style, makes it feel much more personal and genuine. Keep it up.
I appreciate that!
Fascinating video. These Subaru hybrids seem to be incredibly rare, so even during my time working at a Japanese car specialist, I’ve never worked on one of these. I just assumed that, given Toyota’s substantial influence on Subaru and their recent parts/vehicle sharing, Subaru was using a hybrid system with a similar design to the THS. I did not expect it to be basically an exact clone, just repackaged for the unique drivetrain layout Subaru uses. I’m also surprised to learn that the older Subaru hybrid vehicles were parallel hybrids. I look forward to seeing a video on the older setup.
Honestly, if I were in the market for a Crosstrek, I’d be much more interested in the PHEV version. The light-duty Subaru CVTs are trash, the power split CVTs like the THS uses are practically indestructible with basic maintenance.
The AWD system looks to be very similar in theoretical operation as the system they’ve used in their automatics since the early 90s. The system has always been electronically activated, and they’ve always been FWD if the AWD actuation is off. They used to call it the transfer clutch. This one is different from at least the old 4 and 5 speed autos (and I assume the CVTs) in the sense that it is fully electromechanical. In the 4 and 5 speeds (and probably the CVT) it is electrohydraulic, using a solenoid to control fluid pressure to the transfer clutch (just like any other clutch pack in an automatic). Makes sense that they would make this an electromechanical system instead since this style of hybrid system does not necessarily require a high-pressure fluid pump like an automatic or CVT would.
just curious what did you study since you worked as a Japanese car specialist?
Thank you, and thanks for the information.
Very impressive!
Super job on that cutout of the case.
I’d recommend auto journalists watch your channel. They will learn why this CVT feels so much better than the ‘older’ CVTs 😎
I have recommended this channel several times to specific journalists after reading errors in their work.
Thank you very much!
@@Miata822 right on, Bill 👏🏼
Professor Kelly is the best, without a doubt.
Just look at all the P-Touch labelling! Details, details…
Good luck. Motoring "journalists" these days don't seem very interested in understanding how cars work beyond the interior of the cabin 😒
@@WeberAuto I have recommended this video and sent links to three automotive technicians that I know.
My wife and I each own one of these vehicles (2022 and 2023) and love them. There does seem to be something special about them and watching your video shows one more reason why. Thank you for the education! I’m always trying to learn more about this new world we all live in.
All these years later since I first started watching this channel for technical information and it's still masterclass stuff! Better than ever actually.
Thank you very much Rick!
Dr Kelly -- You are a truly talented instructor! Clear, complete, and concise!
When Professor John talks, I learn.
Thanks man.
You are welcome!
This guy is absolutely awesome teaching... At beginning didn't want to watch the full but after the second minute I didn't want to stopped he made so interesting
Hi, Professor John Kelly,
I would like to salute you, your hard work and explaining style. Actually you teach like a respected primary school teacher which is amazing for me. I am a civil engineer but now I know many things about mechanical technology specially EVs and their transmission systems. Keep it up, be blessed with such teaching power. Thank you.
The CVT distinctions, ball ramp demonstration, and cutaway were most helpful. Thanks!
Thank you John Kelly for all that you have done through the years. I just noticed in the GM emerging issues that you have been a GM world-class technician for over 20 years. I want to thank you for sharing all your knowledge with us! I love learning about hybrid and electric vehicles so I am very thankful for your videos.
Thank you Aaron!
such a great channel! Thanks Professor for all those great masterclasses over the years.
You deserve to be a professor, but more than that because of your simplified explanation and your great knowledge
I purchased a 2013 Ford Cmax PRIOR to discovery of this channel. And I SOLD it based on the information from this channel. The car still operated ok at 138,000 miles, but based on this channel I felt either the CVT or the battery pack were on borrowed time. I didn’t like how violently the car shook when the gas engine started when cold. Even after a spark plug/coil pack change, it didn’t improve much(was still running original plugs/coil packs). I sleep much better now😁
Thank you for your distinct videos explaining driving technology meticulously. Looking forward to more videos.
Exceptional demonstration! Thank you for your enthusiasm and willingness to share your talents. 👍
What an impressive video, I was impressed about this technology, now I am in love of it. This system is so simple yet so smart made.
Thank you ! You do such a good job explaining how things work, always love your videos.
You make incredible videos andI appreciate what you do. Every video is a masterclass. Thank you for what you do and I hope TH-cam is kind to you because you are giving away years and years of training and education with every video. Saint like automotive education charity you offer to the world.
Thank you so much!
Your shares are very valuable. I congratulate you for your hard work, professor.
I love your explainings, good to understand. Thanks Professor Kelly
Great video professor Kelly 👍🏼 Really enjoy watching these and still miss being in class!
Thank you!
Thank you for the simplified explanation. Although it is complex, it differs from the previous Toyota hybrid system. However, re-explaining several times is easy. Thank you
Incredible video, watched it twice. Thank you
Hey Prof, thanks for yet another great disassembly video. I hope you enjoy making them even half as much as I enjoy watching them. BTW, I like the new graphics! 🖖
Thank you very much! It is a lot of fun for me to explore these. Thanks for the feedback on the graphics too!
Thank you, Professor Kelly, you make it interesting and easy to understand.
Great video! Thank you so much for breaking all of this down in such detail! I own a 2023 Crosstrek PHEV and absolutely love it. Great to see what is going on inside.
Thank you!
@@WeberAuto My pleasure! I can drive all around Montreal on an 80-90% charge typically since there are a lot of lights and traffic. The regen braking and "B-Mode" down hills and coming to stops squeezes out a little more range each commute. I never use petrol in the city and the Atkinson' cycle boxer gets me between 6.5 and 7.5 L / 100km mileage on my weekly 400km roundtrip that I must do to and from Gatineau. This is quite impressive considering I always make this longer trip packed heavily (clothes, tools and camera gear) with both my bike and kayak racks on the roof. In other words, I am not driving long distance efficiently as I am adding considerable weight and significant drag. This route is also prone to very heavy winds and yet my mileage is still really good. This vehicle is truly a fantastic example of great AWD technology and it keeps me safe in all weather (heavy storms, snow and wind) and lets me go off road or bum about the city :) I am even trying to document my PHEV life a little bit for others who might want to take the leap into PHEV's or even full EV's: raven7818.zenfolio.com/blog It is not even close to how informative that your video was in just 40 minutes, but it is enjoyable to do when I get the time!
@@WeberAuto Really love this video and have watched it multiple times through! I have a question about the oil pump since I want to care for my PHEV in the best way possible. I live in Montreal and it can get quite cold (-25 C at times) and when I do things like hit the highway or turn on the defrosters the Boxer will kick in when I am in EV Mode. My question is this: Does the Oil pump pre-prep the boxer engine at all when I am driving in EV mode only? I ask this since I find it a bit harsh that the Boxer will kick in "cold" while driving in EV mode under these specific conditions. When this happens, I force it into charge mode until the motor warms sufficiently and only after that drop it back into EV only or Save Mode. If the oil pump is circulating oil through the actual motor, even when only under EV drive then that would explain why the Subaru can support starting the engine mid-drive. Thanks for your time and great explanations!
Very impressive presentation. You have allayed all me fears about going this way.
Absolutely great education! Still wainting for your next video!
Thanks a lot for your work. Very interesting and professionally presented content.
amazing video with so much details. Thanks
Awsome Introduction to the ? electrtic tr580 , Very Well Done Sir
We all appreciate what youre doing. Well explained as always. Thank you for your work.
Thank you very much!
Awesome video and explanation! Thank you.
my favorite professor. Thank You for the video!!!
Thank you Prof. Kelly again
Great explanation, you seem to be a really good professor, really nice video!
This was a great video. I never knew that Toyota owned part of Subaru.
I also never knew/seen an electric (or magnetic) clutch.
Great Job!
Excellent video Professor Kelly!
Amazing video save explain. And genius design of the cvt system that avoids all the reliability problems with few belt version
@WeberAuto I just like cars. I have not school on mechanics. But You are a wanderfull Teacher. Thank You
I love your very instructive videos, and can hardly wait until you get your hands on the 2023 Prius and Prius Prime! ;)
Thank you Mr. Kelly
What a cool and informational video :) Really awesome!
What a great way to learn about new mechanical methods to transmit a power band... I'm a mechanical engineering student from frankfurt germany and I feel privileged to have such great professional source of information just one click away. I hope I can take a visite some day.
Great to see you, John!
I was literally just watching your Honda E-CVT video (again) and this Subaru video appeared 👍🏼
Awesome timing, thanks.
Cool, thanks!
Really find your videos interesting. Thanks a lot.
Very good video and excellently explained
Great video. Thank you.
Incredible, Thank you
Excellent video
Hi Professor, just want to re-iterate most other comments regarding your excellent explanation and presentation on this transmission. I'm an ex-mechanic and remember pulling
apart manual 3 speed transmissions which only had 5 or 6 gears in total and were so simple. Hats off to the mechanical and electrical engineering team of these types of
transmissions that are able to get complex systems seemingly working in harmony. Thanks again and really enjoy the content you and your team create !!!!
Thanks for that!
I have the 2020 Crosstrek PHEV. It has been a great vehicle. I have over 73k on it and it has only had oil changes, filters and tires. I average about 60 mpg over a tank of gas and sometimes go 715 miles between fill ups with very low electric charging cost. I use 120v at home and slightly faster charging at charging stations.
Thanks for sharing
I can't find actual specs anywhere, could you answer my questions?
What is the battery only range, and what is the actual MPG after the battery is depleted? You can easily figure this out by starting a trip odometer after the battery is dead.
I'm wondering because I have a Chevy Volt and it is far from the advertised specs, because of course it depends on how long your trips are and how often you charge. You can't give a PHEV a generic MPG rating like that.
@@TheYonderGod The advertised EV range is 17 miles, that’s what it will show available unless you turn on the heat or a/c, in which case it will show 15 miles range. You drive a mile before the capacity drops from 17 to 16 so in my book that equates to 18 miles.
If I ran by battery down and just continued under gas/hybrid mode the advertised mpg is 30-35mpg. That is what I usually get when we take the car on a trip of several hundred miles. I am always looking for a free place to charge along my way even though this car has a slow charging speed. It takes about 2hrs 10min at a level 1 charging stating for a full charge; the last couple miles take the longest to top off. I charge whenever I’m at home so over a tank of gas my average recorded mpg tends to be anywhere from 50-70mpg. It varies greatly depending on daily miles and route.
@@rkymtnrsx thanks, that's the info I was looking for. Crazy that nobody has improved on the technology from that came out in the Volt 10 years ago, other than the small upgrade on the gen2 in 2016.
@@TheYonderGod
😊👍 When I test drove used Volts (great car BTW!) one car had lifetime average of 39mpg, and the other's lifetime was 260mpg.
Guess which one was a fleet car for an insurance company?
The other was privately owned & garaged nightly.
I ended up with an i3 REx.
24k miles on 25 gallons last year.
1 speed series hybrid.
PHEVs & range extenders are great.
Love how you can do this without getting your hands dirty!
New and cleaned parts
Such a great Instructor
Thank you very much for this video!
Great job ! 👍
I 'm watching you video from Ukraine. Very cool. I'm bad undenstanding, but I'm learning English.
Thank you!
Wonderful, interesting video as always. Still waiting for the day I will see the Lexus IS300h transmission video :)))))
Again and again good cognitive lesson. Thank you professor John Kelly -you are my distance learning teacher. if possible make video abot Volksvagen ID4 and ID six please . Watching all your videos-Take care dear mr. Kelly .
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I really like the transfer case solution! It’s like an electrical relay, it would take an enormous amount of energy to squeeze the clutch pack directly, instead this solution uses a small clutch that regulates the ramp system that uses the output torque from the transmission.
Thanks for your feedback!
Yes, it is servo actuation approach.
fascinating and even I could understand it all!
You are the BEST!
Thank you for great job!
Thanks for watching!
I wish we could find one of these in our area. We love our Impreza and have previous experience with plug-in hybrids and it'd be great to get an awesome combo of both of those.
this channel is gold ... top notch explanation been watching you for years ...
Thank you very much
This video is incredible. I’ve learned so much. I’d like to highly encourage you to do the 2016 Crosstrek Hybrid as you mentioned you’d do so I can learn how that one differentiates. Well done! This is *so* informative. I’m coming from a non-mechanically inclined mind but watching this just to learn how the Subaru/Toyota hybrid systems work.
Thank you!
Man your shop assistant is a lucky
Thank you!
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be blessed thank you prof
This video makes me want to get into drivetrain engineering
Excellent clear-cut and simplified (as much as possible) explanation of this transmission. How much of the transmission components are bathed in oil? Is the rear drive a dry clutch?
Fantastic!
Thank you for the effort to bring us the news. Outstanding presentation.
It's quite an impressive configuration. More than the regular toyota one
Great stuff as usual! Thank you for all your work, and for sharing it with us!
My pleasure!
Thanks a lot for another great explanaión.
Glad you liked it!
Awesome !
I can't believe your channel is free.
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the explanation, it's really interesting. Could also you make a video about hyundai\kia hybrids ?
Thanks
Thank you @bosmanx!
Top video! Thank you for all your efforts Professor Kelly!
Thank you very much!
Another amazing video John!
We recently bought a 2022 KIA Sorento PHEV. I would like to see a video on the transmission.
I have driven the 2017 Chevy Volt PHEV, and A 2020 Rav4 Hybrid, but the 2022 KIA PHEV Sorento is different.
I notice that in EV Only mode it still shifts the 5 speed Automatic transmission, Kinda neat as this gives plenty of torque in 1st gear and also eases the RPM at highway speeds.
MFG states 32 miles on EV, but in Phoenix with the A/C on driving the freeways I can go 37 miles on EV only.
Thank you and Thanks for the suggestion!
Professor Kelley, outstanding video of the highest quality. If you get time, could you please do the Corolla Cross Hybrid? There's a lot of information I would love to learn about the eAWD system (amount of torque split and such) as well as the smaller Toyota 2.0L hybrid system used in the newer Prius, corolla, and corolla cross.
My frustration with trying to own/purchase one of these was Crosstrek Hybrids was the dealerships lack of support with these on maintenance but also parts. If you didn't live in CA or OR in an emissions control state, Subaru dealerships would not do any basic maintenance on them. Worse was trying to find parts for them in 10 years as Subaru is notorious for upselling the parts and the availability of these would difficult to find. I went with a more affordable Impreza as it seemed reliable even though I do not like the CVT system compared to the newer direct drive ECVT. They rolled out an awesome package but the Subaru North American support for the maintenance could have been better.
Clear concise and easily understandable 👌
As always good job thank you
Thank you
Your videos are next level to all the other "how does it work" ones!
Thank you very much!
Danke!
You are welcome
VOLTEC GEN2 is waiting for you😁
Yes, it is still on my list. Thanks for watching
Not all CVTs are the same. Great to know the eCVT from the Prius is on some of the hybrid Subarus as well. Great for parts sourcing
I doubt that the parts interchange.
Thanks for the video, very informative. I have one question. How does the reverse work on the e-CVT? I don't see how it can be provided through gear action. I guess it must be provided by the electric motor/generator Number 2 only? Very ingenious transmission, and very clear explanations. Thanks.
Awesome. Very similar to the Lexus GS450h hybrid gearbox, but instead of a neat spragge clutch to drive the oil pump from two sources it uses an electric oil pump for electric only mode.
Fantastic transmission and a fantastic explanation from you. Thank You very much.
You are very welcome
Awesome