A great series, for a European (British) who's family arrived here 1849, there is not much spoken history that has been told in our school systems to help us understand what has happened prior to European settlers arriving, it helps me to understand the Mana of the people who stand on these lands.
Shot brother 50 year old MAORI boy from Bunbury western Australia been here 25 years anyways LOVE your work look forward for your next video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Acknowledge your work brother. I always wanted to know where abouts this magnificent battle tok place as I have iwi links to both sides of the battle I'm born and bred from waipā so much māori history right under our noises!thanks to you for igniting my passion for our history once agen! I've read a lot about the battle its self also heard a really amazing 3 part audio about it was really detailed and can take your imagination away!I think it was on radio live : named Te wherowhero episodes there is a total of like 20 parts all about 20min long. not sure who was talking but was a māori tohunga. Hard to find now but you would love it! Talks about everything b4 during after the battle tactics, terrain, leaders speeches etc even talks about how Waikato-maniapoto and allies made a decoy or deception move in making the enemy think that they had more warriors held in reserve to the rear of 1 of the lakes so they wouldn't come around the back and flank and also to hide the true amount of warriors defending and were exactly the main force were located. They had makeshift imaginary warriors with sticks n feathers 🪶 thru out the bush 2 create the illusion. Also had some chiefs make speeches to the imaginary warriors also to drive it home. Also it says Waikato-maniapoto forces numbering around 3,000 with support from allies from ngati whatua and hauraki iwi. With the invading forces numbering 7 to 10,000 from pretty much every other tribe in aotearoa. What a great story of survival against all odds and using great military tactics from the very elite leaders of the time with terrain advantage and battle formations along with great fearless warriors and chiefs willing to die to protect there home lands family and blood lines.... Rest In peace to all our warriors who died on the battle field regardless of what side they fought on.. the life of the Māori warrior was to kill/die for the land and people...ka whawhai tonu matou mo ake ake ake!
Kia ora, yes this battle was a real doozy. If you are in the Waipa then you have history coming out of your ears. Follow some of the references, will give you a great place to launch further research....cheers
Oral history handed down spoke about Pikauterangi having been wounded many times and as a master in the Taiaha with a small elite group actually broke the main lines of Waikato before his death. Te Rauanganga name came about as the result of another battle near Taupiri when their enemies were caught after attacking Te Pepepe village and a number of other Pa sites of Waikato. Over 100 enemy warriors were bury up to their heads....Te Rauanganga,the 100 heads!. Along what is known today as Taupiri state highway one...along the Waikato river. Some elders said that Te Wherowhero attended and watched the battle of Hingakaka but was to young to fight, that it he that carry Te Rauanganga weapon's.
Wow what great oral history you shared there. I haven't seen anything like this in written form from historical records. Pei says that Te Rauangaanga killed Pikauterangi in the battle, but you have the feeling that they should have been directing such a large battle, not participating in it.... maybe near the end when the result was not in doubt they could have fought for an honourable death, maybe that's when Pikauterangi broke through? The putting to death of the defeated would have been terrible.... I don't believe they would have been given a quick death by the Waikato forces.
Apa karba Dave, I hope all is going well in Bali, I guess you are still there? Say hello to the Kiwi Pie man, I have recommended a couple of Kiwis going to Bali to patronise his shop. Not sure if they did. All the best
@@kiwicodger I’ve been back in bali for a week. I spent 5&1/2 months renovating my house on the Sunshine Coast. I went past the Kiwi pie shop yesterday but it’s been demolished. His pies are still around, I’m having one tonight. Keep up the great work. The more I see the more interested I’m getting
Every time I go to lake ngaroto i always pay tribute to my ancestors sad to see people fishing in the lake not knowing the history about the lake or how many people are buried underneath 💯
Another big thumbs up for a graphic portrayal of a moment in history. In the book, is there any indication (even as a guestimate) as to how long the battle raged?
In his book Pei says that the armies started forming up after dawn and that the battle was over the 'early afternoon'. Seems a bit too long to me.... but there you go :)
And good to see my old contact, Pei Te Hurunui, wrote the definitive account of this battle. Spent some time with him c. 1974-75 on historical research; very nice, refined hospitable man. An amazing scholar.
His book 'King Pōtatau' was his greatest literary achievement. His accounts may be romantic but at least they have some coherence to them. Wow, you met one of the greats!
I have been enjoying your comments over the last period. This was not a musket wars battle so perhaps my research was not so good. I have never heard of the battle you refer to. 20k, that number is staggering when compared to the population at the time, also 20k warriors... probably that equates to 30-50% of fighting age men. I will look into this, it sounds too amazing to me...Hingakaka pushed my limits 😯
@@kiwicodger the main pa in nga puhi at the time was pouerua which was visited by a french painter from memory he said 50 thousand people there they say nga puhi would of had way more population but ten off thosunds off men in this battle
@@ghettotech9617 I have ordered the book from the library. Thanks for the heads up on it...are you sure your not just trying to get one up on Tainui...lol
What a sight this would have been to see, and tha Haka on the day, brutal times. Sort of dissapointing that there are houses built on the Battle SIte, got to be some bad mojo living on top of all that blood shed.
Appreciate the time you take to research the history and geography, makes a big difference
A great series, for a European (British) who's family arrived here 1849, there is not much spoken history that has been told in our school systems to help us understand what has
happened prior to European settlers arriving, it helps me to understand the Mana of the people who stand on these lands.
I found your video after trying to figure out the geography of the battle myself with Google Earth. Brilliant work mate.
Envisaging the battle site and figuring it all out was a sigificant journey for me also. Glad to have made your jourey easier.
Shot brother 50 year old MAORI boy from Bunbury western Australia been here 25 years anyways LOVE your work look forward for your next video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spent a few years in Perth back in my oil field days. W.A is my favourite state in AUS. Glad you are enjoying the videos.
I Acknowledge your work brother. I always wanted to know where abouts this magnificent battle tok place as I have iwi links to both sides of the battle I'm born and bred from waipā so much māori history right under our noises!thanks to you for igniting my passion for our history once agen!
I've read a lot about the battle its self also heard a really amazing 3 part audio about it was really detailed and can take your imagination away!I think it was on radio live : named Te wherowhero episodes there is a total of like 20 parts all about 20min long. not sure who was talking but was a māori tohunga.
Hard to find now but you would love it!
Talks about everything b4 during after the battle tactics, terrain, leaders speeches etc even talks about how Waikato-maniapoto and allies made a decoy or deception move in making the enemy think that they had more warriors held in reserve to the rear of 1 of the lakes so they wouldn't come around the back and flank and also to hide the true amount of warriors defending and were exactly the main force were located. They had makeshift imaginary warriors with sticks n feathers 🪶 thru out the bush 2 create the illusion. Also had some chiefs make speeches to the imaginary warriors also to drive it home.
Also it says Waikato-maniapoto forces numbering around 3,000 with support from allies from ngati whatua and hauraki iwi. With the invading forces numbering 7 to 10,000 from pretty much every other tribe in aotearoa.
What a great story of survival against all odds and using great military tactics from the very elite leaders of the time with terrain advantage and battle formations along with great fearless warriors and chiefs willing to die to protect there home lands family and blood lines....
Rest In peace to all our warriors who died on the battle field regardless of what side they fought on.. the life of the Māori warrior was to kill/die for the land and people...ka whawhai tonu matou mo ake ake ake!
Kia ora, yes this battle was a real doozy. If you are in the Waipa then you have history coming out of your ears. Follow some of the references, will give you a great place to launch further research....cheers
Can we still find this audio
Well done. Thank you.
Oral history handed down spoke about Pikauterangi having been wounded many times and as a master in the Taiaha with a small elite group actually broke the main lines of Waikato before his death.
Te Rauanganga name came about as the result of another battle near Taupiri when their enemies were caught after attacking Te Pepepe village and a number of other Pa sites of Waikato. Over 100 enemy warriors were bury up to their heads....Te Rauanganga,the 100 heads!. Along what is known today as Taupiri state highway one...along the Waikato river. Some elders said that
Te Wherowhero attended and watched the battle of Hingakaka but was to young to fight, that it he that carry Te Rauanganga weapon's.
Wow what great oral history you shared there. I haven't seen anything like this in written form from historical records.
Pei says that Te Rauangaanga killed Pikauterangi in the battle, but you have the feeling that they should have been directing such a large battle, not participating in it.... maybe near the end when the result was not in doubt they could have fought for an honourable death, maybe that's when Pikauterangi broke through?
The putting to death of the defeated would have been terrible.... I don't believe they would have been given a quick death by the Waikato forces.
Just re watched this. Thanks very much for making such a coherent account. Also good to read some of the comments by others
Apa karba Dave, I hope all is going well in Bali, I guess you are still there? Say hello to the Kiwi Pie man, I have recommended a couple of Kiwis going to Bali to patronise his shop. Not sure if they did. All the best
@@kiwicodger I’ve been back in bali for a week. I spent 5&1/2 months renovating my house on the Sunshine Coast. I went past the Kiwi pie shop yesterday but it’s been demolished. His pies are still around, I’m having one tonight. Keep up the great work. The more I see the more interested I’m getting
I've been to that site. Today it is peaceful rural setting & its hard to believe that a battle of that magnitude occurred there.
Good easy information to understand by the narrator. The drone has a good camera to record a panoramic view.
Luv this channel
Every time I go to lake ngaroto i always pay tribute to my ancestors sad to see people fishing in the lake not knowing the history about the lake or how many people are buried underneath 💯
Another big thumbs up for a graphic portrayal of a moment in history. In the book, is there any indication (even as a guestimate) as to how long the battle raged?
In his book Pei says that the armies started forming up after dawn and that the battle was over the 'early afternoon'. Seems a bit too long to me.... but there you go :)
Brilliant. Many thanks.
And good to see my old contact, Pei Te Hurunui, wrote the definitive account of this battle. Spent some time with him c. 1974-75 on historical research; very nice, refined hospitable man. An amazing scholar.
His book 'King Pōtatau' was his greatest literary achievement. His accounts may be romantic but at least they have some coherence to them. Wow, you met one of the greats!
Is this the great battle spoken of in Tom Connors book "Tides of the Kawhia"
Another great vid - Nga mihinui kia koe KC
Beautiful
Very Useful TYSM!
Another very interesting video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for sharing and I like your take on this battle
Cheers Rick :)
@@kiwicodger sorry I have to share this in a few days my friend
No worries, I'm developing a thick skin!
@@kiwicodger lol I do hope you don't mind? but no one in NZ is doing this and your vids are fantastic and your knowledge :)
Go for it Rick, there is little that is controversial in this episode
Lovely video 👍🏽
Thank you! Cheers!
Good staff my man
Cheers Kino..... Iooking forward to catching up... probably in the spring.
i have to dispute this war as being the largest te wai whi ariki is the largest battle 20thousand plus involved
I have been enjoying your comments over the last period. This was not a musket wars battle so perhaps my research was not so good. I have never heard of the battle you refer to. 20k, that number is staggering when compared to the population at the time, also 20k warriors... probably that equates to 30-50% of fighting age men.
I will look into this, it sounds too amazing to me...Hingakaka pushed my limits 😯
@@kiwicodger this battle in the book puriri trees are laughing pre musket between nga puhi and ngati pou
@@kiwicodger the main pa in nga puhi at the time was pouerua which was visited by a french painter from memory he said 50 thousand people there
they say nga puhi would of had way more population but ten off thosunds off men in this battle
@@ghettotech9617 I have ordered the book from the library. Thanks for the heads up on it...are you sure your not just trying to get one up on Tainui...lol
@@kiwicodger no love tanui cuzzys and like to thank you for the videos ive lernt a lot thanks
What a sight this would have been to see, and tha Haka on the day, brutal times. Sort of dissapointing that there are houses built on the Battle SIte, got to be some bad mojo living on top of all that blood shed.
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The audacity
I’d punch someone out if I didn’t get my share of the fish
f#cken oath...lol!
😂😂😂😂😂