Windows 10 1803 OPTIMIZATION Guide For GAMERS & POWER USERS!
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Today we are going to optimize windows 10 for power users and gamers with the 1803 update, there are a few more services that rear their heads and somethings to look out for.
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This will be lost in the other 800 comments BUT... Update Orchestrator - the description says you can't get updates without this. I had a fresh install of windows and couldn't figure out why Windows Update would not work at all, just the loading bar forever. Turned orchestrator back on and viola, updates worked again.
This has to get more upvotes. Would have been great if Brain gave more information in the video regarding what disabling this service might actually do.
Yeah I commented about this a month before your post, and no one even saw it.
You need to be warry following the advice of some youtube guy... especially when he doesn’t even bother to tell you what stuff does.
Sounds like he was doing you a favor, ever known a Windows update that made something better? I'll wait. Windows 7 is the last real OS of a generation
Calapse Sathir actually yeah, there are a number of good things th-cam.com/video/BYx8ofnM_hU/w-d-xo.html
I actually couldn't turned it off. I has the grey bar blocked when I tried to click and change it to off. I think Microsoft made an update so you cant turn it off. I opened services as an administrator and STILL couldnt change that Update Orchestrator.
Love the new intro, it really does go with the feel of your channel. Making old things new again. Keep up the good work!
start -> winver in run box gives much clearer indication to version number and build
I love how he gets to the point and he’s so fast he deserves a like
Yes finally! Desktop and Laptop are now snappy AF ;) Yes man delivers again!
You shouldn't need to disable Distributed Link Tracking, it's a service which ensures shortcuts work correctly even when the source files are moved. You'll end up with lots of broken shortcuts in your startmenu over time with this disabled. I'm assuming you were spooked by it because it has "tracking" in the name, but it's not sending anything on your network, it "tracks" the relationship between shortcuts and source files.
I also don't understand why you disabled Update Orchestrator, you say you "don't use it" - but you must have used it in order to update to the latest Windows build?? It's required to be running in order for Updates to be installed, regardless the Windows Update service will re-enable it anyway.
The only service I agree with on disabling is Telemetry, the others have no impact on performance at all.
Just did this on my new install of Windows on a Samsung 970 Evo. I don't think it's ever felt this quick. Glad I remembered you did this! Thanks Bryan!
I was waiting for you to finally make this..I have followed all you tutorials and as Usual you came thru..AWESOME!
tech yes city. is there a new verson of this video out for newer versions of windows 10? :)
How do you disable delivery optimization? It's saying access denied Everytime I try it
facing this too...
I'm very appreciative of this video, I as a rule turn off most stuff that slows down Windows 10 but I learned a few extra things here that made a noticeable difference beyond my normal routine.
Keep the great content coming.
This guide is amazing, closing all the junk in the background made my computer so much faster. Great video Brian!
Nice guide... However, for the next one you absolutely need to explain what the services you disable actually do and what they can harm
I like this video and appreciate it... I'm about halfway thru watching it but I'm quickly realising that you're saying to uncheck this and uncheck that but you're not telling us what they are. I think it would be better if you explain to your viewers what each thing is. Not everyone it there knows what all those things are and if they're going to turn something off, it would be better if they knew do they could then decide if they want then off or not. Thanks for the video.
Chris Dennis I think this would be important, I do IT for a living and things like Telemetry are actually important to a functioning computer but you want to kill off user experience stuff. Would be nice to hear an explanation, but still a good video nonetheless.
most of the things he is unchecking, if not all, have a description so you can pick and choose, and decide what makes your pc experience better for you. This was mainly for performance and a smoother gaming experience. It's still a real good idea to go in to these areas of your system he mentioned and fine tune your settings to accommodate your needs.
J D I wasn't really asking for myself..I am very tech savvy but I know there are many who would benefit from this who might not do any of it because they are unsure or uneasy about changing settings without knowing exactly what they are doing. But it is a very useful video.
Matthew that's highly presumptuous
Matthew I only recently got into tech stuff and don't know a lot about it. Yet I'm here trying to speed up my system for gaming. This guy isn't telling what he's doing does, so I'm here left scratching my head.
Yes, it is.
Thanks for this video Brian. I did this last time you did this video, and found some of the setting still as they were set last time.
Looks like that even though Win10 updates from time to time, it doesn't always change all these setting from what I've set them too last time. :)
Keep the great content coming dude.
Thanks, I already had my Windows Optimized, but your video made me notice I had some few more to do!
Awwwww maaate! Why the CDkey add right in the middle :(
Simply Austin Austin? What are you doing here?! (btw i love your videos)
Negro lol
much prefer that than annoying wait 5 secs adverts every 30 seconds, at least if its no use to me i can skip through it.
this killed my audio jack recognizing my headphones, great. Now I'm rewatching where I may have fucked up
Gonna leave this comment here just in case someone goes through the same
I fixed it by updating drivers pretty easily, reply to this comment if you need help so I can be more in depth
Awesome guide! I had done almost all of it but you found a few more items for me to take care of. Best tech channel
For years and years, your videos made my PC more powerful. Thank you so much.
I like to leave all animations on, that gives the OS a better look and makes it feel more modern, and costs almost no performance in games...
Also The High performance mode is not really needed on anything beyond a core 2 Quad / phenom2. The CPUs are changing their Frequency fast enogh to be almost not noticable, but this saves A LOT of power when the PC idles
TheRailroad99 If you are using a desktop, the power saving is irrelevant.
OK if you are using a lappy on battery
Not really no, some people have to pay their bills
Having animations on makes if feel so slow i will instantly go turn them off.
@TheRailroad99 Exactly.
@g8ymw no it isn't, there's also much less heat output
Also, it automatically applies less voltage to your cpu when it's idling. That can significantly increase the lifetime of your components
How to find out what version of Windows you're running.
Windows button + R.
[Run]
Enter: Winver
Press ok
Immediately gives you that info.
Press: Windows button
Enter: winver
Press: enter
Thank you very much! Your method made my computer feel much more snappy and responsive.
Thank you man, I've used your previous optimizations and they really gave me alot of FPS. 8-15 in average on GTX 1060 in 1080p etc. Games like GTA V, Dirt Rally. Thank you for making another one!
Good video! Didnt remember to do all of these on last install, so fixed a bunch. One thing to keep in mind with the high/balanced power setting is Ryzen chipset driver includes its own Ryzen Power optimized setting so that should stay on, not high. Is apparently quicker and better than the high setting. Maybe do a video on this power setting and see if it still holds true? Of course, only applies to more or less brand new PCs with Ryzen cpus.
Svenna would love to see that as well. My AMD sata drivers gave me a stutter fest, so I installed the default Microsoft one ... smooth as butter again.
i didn't understand i have ryzen 2700x what to do now???!!
Drake did you build your PC yourself? If so, you need chipset drivers from the AMD website. They include a power setting in Windows that works the best for Ryzen.
Svenna ok will see tomorrow
I installed the chipset but still no ryzen power plan idk why my pc is trolling prob cuz my win10 says it has expired...
Brian you should make this a weekly series 😂
Louis lol new update every week 😂😂😂
Windows 10 makes the series possible! Fixing....M$ optimization every weekly update.
His videos would be too long lol
Finally, an Australian TV show that isn't about spiders :xD
I have a solution. Just dont use win 10 xD
Holllllyshit this made my windows 10 2009 work laptop soooo much better, going to try this on my even older 2004 laptop at home and see what it can do, cheer Brian.
Yes I've been waiting on this one Brian, cheers mate.
".. to know that no bogeymen, are gonna be after the Yes-man!" - Bryan 2018 😂
Yeah... Brian. As much as I love your videos, you really need to explain these settings in more detail, rather than just going "disable this, disable that". Some of those are fairly important for a healthy Windows Environment, both personally and as a whole.
Which are "fairly important for a healthy Windows"?
As far as I could see on mine, they're all superfluous. Certainly had no adverse effects
Automatic Sample submissions is a great example - They are essential to keeping Windows Defender remotely useful for users.
Only useful if you actually use windows defender.
Which... most people do.
only because they don't know how to disable it.
Thank you so much Bryan. My PC was okay as it was. But after using this. Holy hell it's alot more smoother, snappier and just feels alot quicker. and some games even get a 10fps gain from this. This'll probably even help with video editing since those background processes arent running now. Thanks man!
I run the latest and greatest hardware (Ryzen 5 1600, a 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD, and 16GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz) and I still used this tutorial. Been meaning to figure out how to turn off telemetry, as I've done it, before, but I wasn't sure how to do it, since I forgot. Thanks for including that step.
Great video, however most of those settings do NOT do anything. Disabling them does not stop the data sending. I have external firewall and log every single bit of data leaking to MS servers and trust me most of these settings have 0 effect.
jawbreaker Telemetry is unremovable without 3rd party hacks
Pihole helps to block some of it.
jawbreaker what they do actually do continuously is nibble ram and CPU usage. Each on takes its tiny bite. Add them all together and you end up wishing your computer was using 32 gigs of ram with a 28 core processor and a titan v . its ridiculous.
I am talking about the sending of data, for the performance they have small effect.
jawbreaker each one is actually a tiny affect , but go into task manager and look at total usage . it makes you go , "who on earth is chewing 15% of my CPU and 12% of my ram idling !?
Thnx a lot bro
my pc ran in 400 kmh speed
Many many thnx
Thanks for this man!!! Tried it on my slow and old laptop and it improved a lot!
Waiting for last 4-5 weeks. Finally this video. Love You Man
If only devs could/would get games to work as well with Linux as they do for Windows. I am noticing that Linux support is improving, though. Maybe the YES Man could bring us some content featuring Linux gaming in 2018???
Chris Fraser I'd be off of windows in a heart beat if it would play all the new titles and allow krita, unity, unreal engine rendering , streaming. That's all I need in one seamless package , no spying.
Good stuff. Bloody legend content 👌🏼
Thanks @Tech YES City from Italy!
Majority of this optimisation guide helped eliminate CPU related stutter on GTA V, thankyou
anyone know where that wallpaper is? 1440p preferred
most of this is fine, but dumbing down windows' visual looks cause its "faster"? maybe on a pentium 4 with onboard video and 4gb ram.. turning off auto time sync cause it "could use resources"? yes ok it may use cpu, about 0.00000001% & 200kb ram.. not worth having time slowly drift. high performance power plan.. that old thing that never dies.. there is ZERO difference between balanced and high performance, the ONLY exception to that is pci express power saving, *IF* ur UEFI is set to native aspm so the OS controls it, if it does then set it to off in windows, if its UEFI controlled then it doesnt matter, basically u just want no aspm for the graphics card, the rest of the system can have it on, helps nvme drive temps alot.
overall, not bad guide, better than most. u forgot to touch on the page file, it defaults to dynamic controlled, but manual fixed is better, gamers will want a bare minimum of 2.5gb or risk "running out of swap space", as its happened to me, so i now run 5gb fixed (i have 16gb ram). an ssd IS better for page, as when its accessed no matter how rarely, it NEEDS to be fast as possible, it WONT wear down ur ssd so dont put it on a HDD unless u absolutely have no SSD space left. u should make a separate video for "advanced" ways of disabling as much telemetry as possible without breaking any apps (skype, bing search etc). i use my router in combo with spybot antibeacon, with some microsoft domains blocked by dnsmasq in this format:
address=/DnsNameHere/0.0.0.0
address=/DnsNameHere/::
ipv4
ipv6
respectively. 0.0.0.0 is faster than 127.0.0.1 as 0.0.0.0 is globally recognized as invalid and devices instantly give up, with localhost, several devices hang, attempting to connect before giving up. this way as opposed to 0.0.0.0 in hosts is microsoft cant override it no matter what, they can override hosts file in OS only for it to hit the router and not be resolved, this also covers all devices on the network at once, zero config on their end, just be using the router as the dns server. doing this blocks everything on a domain so if /doubleclick.net/ is entered, x.x.x.x.doubleclick.net is all blocked. sometimes there is one or a few good subdomains u want or need to unbreak a service, but want to block as much as possible of the main domain like doubleclick.net, this is achieved by "server=/l.doubleclick.net/#" so now x.x.x.x.x whatever.l.doubleclick.net is not blocked, but the rest of doubleclick.net is (g.doubleclick.net etc).
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windows 10 1809 optimization pls ... thank you :D
I'm working on it. ;)
PLUS, I've got some Secret Software, which when used correctly, can do wonders to cleanup the system.
So much good info in here! Thanks Bryan!
Hi man i like ur videos
Thanks Brian - this video is great - you make it fun as well.
YES MAN
You should've done a benchmark before and after for proof of concept matters. I'm kind of a benchmark nerd and I can asure you with those and even more tweaking you can gain 5-10% performance depending on the benchmark tests and also the cpu core count.
IF this would give a 5% boost would be groundbreaking, but instead, if any, would give you a 0,5% boost, and only in few moments. Most of that stuff he disabled don't do anything, and while the services are shown on services tab, if they are not active (not running, they can be running but inactive - running only means they're open to receive instructions, not that they are using more than the few kbytes in memory it's process uses), is the same thing as disabling it (open task manager and look those various svchost each one of them - almost each one actually - represent a service. Keep looking at all of them for 5 minutes. Those that stay with memory size unchanged, AREN'T DOING SHIT to your PC, so disabling them will not give you any boost). Now, open task manager, go into Services tab, get into each service Tech Yes Guy said to disable, right-click it, anc choose 'go to details'. It will get you in the especific svchost process related to that service. You will realize most of them are only a few kbytes. So, I just checked them, on MY PC, they use about 27Mb, their memory usage was static, meaning they weren't consuming any CPU power, they were there, idling. Seriously, if your PC is getting any improvment by cleaning 27Mb in RAM, you need to change it ASAP. By doing this kind of stuff your essentially dictating that future you that yells 'Windows 10 is bullshit nothing works properly, give 100 errors every 10 seconds! I'm going back to Windows 98!!'
I think the point of the video is to remove all unnecessary things that gives headache for a clean and notification free windows and for a stress free windows when you need em.
Awesome. I will be trying this in the morning! Thanks man for another great video.
super thank you... my pc runs smooth now... triple thumbs up
Turning off those updates for defender is not wise.
It's not all updates, and defender is trash, you have to honestly be trying to get infected
No, you.
never had defender miss on anything MWB found, so I dont see where your proof for saying its crappy
Sorry. I have to disagree with you there.
Defender is not the best but it's far from the worst and a million times better than nothing at all. If you're running a gaming rig, it's also one of the better ones to that eat's CPUs less than the rest. Also, you're looking at old stats. Defender has caught up dramatically over the last year or so. There's barely any difference between any of the obvious AV providers over the last 6 months and that includes Defender.
I run Defender on my PCs. I also run a Malwarebytes scan one a week ( I don't use the realtime protection of Malwarebytes because that has no benefit). Other than some low risk adware cruft pop up once or twice a year I've never had a problem and I don't know a single AV product that doesn't let some sort of low level crap through (Just run ADWcleaner on your PC to see if your favourite AV product is working properly). In fact I could probably do with just Defender and run ADWcleaner once a month.
Putting any 'consumer' AV software on your PC will tank performance. The business ones are better because they assume the user is a little more sensible but to be honest there's so little in it on any of the AV products these days, it's just not worth the bother installing anything else. Sure Kaspersky has more features but it's not really that much better and I'd rather not have a bucket loads of ads from AVG .
In my experience of supporting a lot of Windows PCs, if there's something playing up, there's a good chance it's a third party AV programs causing the problem. Also, many AV products make things worse. Don't believe me. Check out this.
arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/antivirus-is-bad/
The number one way of keeping safe is to be aware of what you're clicking on. You only need a moderate amount of a fullback position for those times when you take your eye off the ball.
Yusuf Nayab defender is not bad actually...
This "optimization" is more like custom personal PC configuration, than optimization...
With this "optimization", on normal computers, with SSD's and etc., 99% of users WON'T notice the difference.
The only things that DO make the difference (on old computers), is lowering settings witch affect graphics.
Awesome! I didn't have to but I did this guide on my i7 7700k build. That command prompt worked for me. System definitely feels snappier. Great video, especially to have stored in a hard drive for future use. This guide is definitely a must on pentium, i3 and i5 systems.
been using this video too many times! Thank you for the good work!
I'm still using win7 and after seeing this I'm dreading upgrading.
windows 10 is really not that bad. i hated it for so long. up until a few months or so ago i was still refusing to upgrade but decided to do the free upgrade on another clone drive and tbh i wouldnt go back to 7 if you paid me. win 10 is much faster booting and just feels more up to date and trouble free. not to mention now having DX12 support i dont have to worry about compatability for the future. once you optimise win 10 and get rid of the crap you can its the better OS. just make sure you get atleast the Pro version to avoid some annoying security issues with games not being allowed access to certain disk locations
Don't do it, you'll regret it ... i literally installed win7 and 10 back and forth and i always regret using 10
10 is mostly tolerable with Classicshell as the start menu, and with Automatic Updates neutered.
Stay with 7 If you like setting your stuff freely instead of being imposed a bunch of crap you don't want. I had 8.1 and recently upgraded it for some reason and I hate it, It's like it's fighting you.
" it's fighting you" yup!
What about deleting "System32" folder, I heard it can boost FPS to a thousand... --"
Man , I haven't heard that one in a long time
L'Ami Kal IT WORKS!!!
A gazzillion FPSs!!
OMG!!
OH MAN WHAT A GOOD IDEA.
Is this trolling?
Is this dumbness ? Of course its trolling. But what I do did not differ too much of what Bryan is doing in his vid. He just say "uncheck this, unchek that, erase this and that" without explaining really much what he is doing. So I thought "dang, why not ?"
Best Birthday present :D a video from good old brian :D
Great video Bryan! I'm optimising my win10 always a bit differently like in your video, but I think I'll adapt some practices as I wasn't really disabling some of the things I don't use (I noticed that while you were showing everything ;) )
Step 0: upgrade RAM and Graphics
Almost none of those tips can't actually improve the performance to noticeable level.
No Hibernation , so when I'm going to start actually playing games if I'm waiting forever for my pc to boot up?
True
Dark GT What are your spec's?
Dark GT My PC loads up in a few seconds. Get an SSD
Burning HDD's hours and crushing automated TDP reduction is a good idea to performance . (?)
@ techyes ... i have a question ... i saw a program in my background apps in settings and its called @{windows.Miracast.View_6.3.0.0_neutral_ne...) what is this thing? and it has no icon... the icon box is just white colour box....
nice tutorial, should add that Disk cleanup on administrative tools for finishing up
When seeing all the crap Microsoft has integrated into Windows 10, I really want to go back to Windows 2000.
I'm honestly too lazy to do all this, plus I don't have any problems with windows now.
So who cares about you ?
Milaan Dahiya The services and theme preferences are rly the only ones that will give u better preformance if u disable them. All the others are purely for the privacy and looks. I would suggest that u go look at the privacy settings tho. There are legit services that log ur keystrokes u type and ur history in ur browser and overall pc etc... Idk why Brian didnt mentione this in first place?
I have a software yes/no to deactivated all the crap they stuffed you by force in your troath.
Marcus Anonymous Ohh yea i have that too but they still find ways to install/ enable them selves again in time.
This is awesome just what I needed! .. You rock Tech YES City!
Great advice, thank you! Also might want to recommend spybot anti-beacon; automates some of these settings every time you reboot.
man I love this channel but videos like these are terrible. None of these "optimizations" improve performance at all, and worse, disabling random stuff in services can actually cause more harm than good.
Just install Linux. Install Steam for Linux. Enable Steam Play/Proton from Settings and you are good. Linux is already far more optimized than Windows. Steam Play/Proton will let you play Windows games on Linux OOTB.
Linux made my CPU and fan go crazy. The thermal goes upto 65° C. I had to come back to windows 10.
CSGO is available native on Linux.
You can try updating the Linux kernel to latest version and see if same CPU and fan problem persist. If your hardware is recent/newer, you should use Arch based rolling Linux distro like Manjaro instead of Ubuntu or Debian based distros. Rolling model distros support newer hardware faster than LTS model due to being bleeding edge.
The temperature I mentioned is when my laptop is on idle (I was using Linux Mint). And yes, I'm using Intel CPU (Core i5 7th Gen).
@Cuzeg Spiked I'm using Nvidia 940mx 4GB. Changed the performance from max to power saving in Nvidia control panel and now it's down to around 50°C. I didn't see any change in performance though. I'm also new to Linux. I wish every laptop comes with pre-installed with open source OS like Ubuntu or something. Thanks.
Finally a complete guide, now im updating to w10 withouth issue on my main pc.
I would like to see a before and after on a high end pc on performace...
Keep up with the good work!
I have been waiting this god tier guide!
Or just install Linux and have worry free life
same here.
gaming only on win10 anything work/;ife related done on linux
Great idea but not for gaming though.
"Linux" and "worry free" never go together, lol.
Cas I can! I'm only playing Rust/gmod and CSGO occasionally and my Linux distro (Manjaro XFCE) does a great job for that. I regret I haven't ditched m$ bloatware earlier...
Fals3Agent yes it does go together in 2018 believe it or not!
Thank you , Great video, as usual! That video have help me with stuttering issue , its a nice improvement for my windows. Have a nice day !
you do some of the best series of vids tech dundee, thanks!
Cheers Bryan only just got to this, take it you saw my comment asking if the older one was still relevant ;)
Thanks for the video. These setting really helped me with my fps stutters. Thanks.
Awesome, I had been waiting for this!
I have been waiting for this!
Nice and comprehensive video
For gaming, what do you use for recording since you dont use the XBox Game DVR?
ty , i wait this tutorial from a long time
Love your content Brian! Could you possibly show some benchmarks/gameplay comparing pre and post optimization? Thanks!
These are always super helpful thank you!
Brian I Love You For Making these Video's, I hate this 1803 Build.. I have noticed maybe like a 2 to 3 percent performance hit since I updated like 2 months ago... This new Blury Feature has been messing with my gaming... WOW got my 1808 CB Score Back haven't hit that high in a while.. Seriously thanks I thought I had Most everything off That needed to be But there did seem to be something up.. Seriously thank's a Ton..
massive difference in performance !!! thank you
hey Brian, during 5:29 clicking "virus & threat protection" it says
"your it administrator has limited access to some areas of this app, and the item you tried to access is not available. Contact IT Helpdesk for more information."
but this is a private computer why would that show up? know any fix?
This is what i waited for. Thank you Brian.
This guide is amazing !
I watched the whole thing at 0.5x (drunk ty man mode)
It was very funny but I managed to keep up during the services section.
Incredibly helpful mate!!!
hey tch yes city at 12:40 when you say that you need to click on show additional plans. what do i do if i dont have that button?
When i try to disable the UpdateOrchestrator service, I am unable to do so as it is greyed out. Not having too much luck in my google search on how to fix this. Any idea?
so I followed this video and now my mic doesn't work in my blizzard app. I've since re-watched the video to change this back still doesn't work can you help?
Hi Brian. Love the new vid of course. Just wondered why you don't strafe into powershell and remove package options eg getting rid of cortana etc
Sir i love how u making this. I follow your method. And it very helpful.
This is some add to bookmarks stuff. Awesome video.
Thank you brother, from another mother, be blessed-all the best
in my build of windows 10 orchestrator cannot be disabled it says it is essential to the windows update service.
Thanks buddy i luved it. I went trough all the way long and difference after restart was obvious ;) Peace
I actually didnt think this would make a difference, thanks for the tutorial brian :D.
Great tips! Especially for an older machine.
It's been 3 weeks, and I just want to say thanks heaps for this guide! My OCed Ryzen 5 1600 with 16gb ram and 1060 6gb actually feels like it's running properly for the first time! Previous to this I thought I'd made a huge mistake not buying Intel because relatively speaking when multitasking, it wasn't running much better than my old Intel dual core. I was even still having some lag problems in Excel with the huge files I run. But now I don't have to worry about thinking about saving money to upgrade again anytime soon!
another great tutorial from the YESMAN!!!
Thanks a lot man! Helped me out a lot!!
When you sell computers you build, do you apply these settings and what do you do if the customer needs one of the services such as xbox that you disabled?
That was brilliant Brian. So do you think i would still need to this with ryzen1700x and 500gb nvme ssd