Hey guys some comments about minus 30 being the lowest setting possible on am4. Will definitely test again in the morning as I know there was a reasonable difference between 30 and 40. Perhaps the board could be overvolting slighlty by default. Though Will look into it. Pbo2 tuner is a great program though and no harm will be done with minus settings. So nothing to fear there. All you have to fear is a crash, so just don't have anything unsaved whilst tuning.
If you set it to -40 the PBO2 Tuner acts like it has made it -40 but if you close the program and open it back up again you will see in reality it's only been set to -30. On my 5800X3D i have it set to -30 but on core 0 and core 2 i can only do -21 without it crashing and it's worth mentioning if you change to a new BIOS with a different AGESA version a previously stable undervolt can become unstable.
@@Spectrophia 5800X3D is limited to -30 i believe. Other standard models should still accept -40 even with PBO2 Tuner. PBO2 Tuner was also great for 5800X3D owners because initially AMD did not have CO in BIOS. Later when they added it, PBO2 Tuner became largely unnecessary.
Have you tested with OCCT at all??? The 57X3D SKU is clocked lower than the 58X3D and mostly consists of bad 58X3D bins so it's pretty impressive that your system is even stable with -30, let alone -50... I highly doubt that your settings will work with most 57X3D's.
@@kingeling I have tested in OCCT and even had the world records on it. I own the 5800X3D not the 5700X3D. The funny thing with these chips is you can be 100% stable in OCCT but you wont know if it's really stable until you let it idle in windows or use chrome browsers etc. The voltage is lowest in those scenarios and that is when the WHEA can strike if it's not getting enough voltage for the idle states.
That mic sounds superb. Was really refreshing to see you using Task scheduler. It was my best friend years ago, but I have been to lazy to setup for a few years now. !Cheers on another great video.
Been rocking the 5800x3D with a B550 UD AC and 3080 FTW3 12GB for a while now, with a combo of tuned b-die, PBO2 tuner -25 all core, 102 BCLK and a hefty OC on the 3080 I took #1 (for this hw combo) in timespy and gaming is buttery at 1440p, cinebench R23 ~15.4k. Great video showing off that AM4 longevity
We are twinning, same exact setup I have a FTW3 12gb 3080 non ti and 5800x3d. I am rocking a gigabyte auroa master mobo though. I didn't bother with BCLK but I may try a small 1 or 2 mhz bump like you. I had issues with an external drive messing with bclk OC on a previous PC that corrupted my drive so I am hesitant, now I have a nas so it doesn't matter.
@@jonas000111 BCLK up to 102 generally works well on most B550 boards, but if you're on a X570 Master it may not work at all. My chip is pretty good and I'm trying to source a B550 unify-x since it's one of the few boards with a properly functioning clockgen, could probably do 108 and a better IF clock since it's two dimm.
Undervolt really makes a huge difference. My Ryzen 5 5600 reaches 80c in heavy gaming, now it barely reaches 60C and barely reaches 60watts thanks to Tech YES City for teaching me how to undervolt.
@@TheTwiix hell nah. I used to have a R5 3600, used to get over 80c while gaming. Bought a nice cooler from cooler masters, a great thermal paste, and it stopped going up to over 45c on cyberpunk ( ultra )
@krosis8058 all zen3-4 are made to reach high temps with no problem. You can do some research and confrim. Of course you dont need to reach those temps
I just got a 5700x3d for like 5hours ago upgraded from a 5600 non-x. PBO2 settings tinkered and now the idle CPU power ranges from 5.4-7W @38-40C while having 5 chrome tabs and discord at the back using a Thermalright Pearless Assasin 120. Paired it with my undervolted 6800xt and runs below 60C @
@@Pawankalyan1 well for one the x3d models have more cache. it's specifically designed for gaming. x3d models are obviously quite a performance leap from a 5600 lol
just a heads up, PBO2 value is measured in "ticks", each tick roughly translates to ~3 to 5 mV. So, with 30 ticks you're actually undervolting by ~90 to 150 mV. An actual 30mV undervolt wouldn't result in a sizeable temp and power reduction.
This improved a lot my temps and performance. I'm using a ab350m-ds3h v2, a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 V2, with the 5700X 3D. The average temp without undervolting while gaming is around 70°C, but with undervolt of 30mv, temperatures decreased 5 to 10 °C. Cinebench went from 12300 to 13100 points. CPU-Z went from 5560 to 5800 points. I thank you a lot for this tip!
May I ask what temps you have in your room? I have the same cooler (actually the V1, but it should have the same performance), and I was planning to upgrade to a 5700x3d in the next weeks. The problem is that it's summer where I live and my room usually sits around 30 C°, so I'm not sure if my current setup is gonna be enough.
@@costantino9388 I think a thing that works really well for me is that i have a 120mm fan from delta(can reach about 3200RPM) on the exhaust of the case. This fan is alone, i don't have any intake fans.
@@arthurzampirolli Thanks for the help, I upgraded and used the Arctic MX2 thermal paste (I was using the MX 4 before), tried a cinebench 2024 run and the 5700x3d did not go over 80 °C, same as the 3600 I was using. Applying an undervolt of -30 mv on all cores also reduced the max temperatures of 5 °C, so I guess I'm fine :)
I decided to switch to the 5700x3d from the 5800x3d and I'm satisfied with the decision. I opted for the downgrade because my 5800x3d was unstable, and Microcenter had no replacements available. With that in mind, the video was quite helpful; it helped me save money while achieving similar performance.
I see no more 5800x3ds for sale over here, wonder if they stopped producing because of that reason, and made the 5700x3ds instead? Conspiracy theory time? :p
Google confirms these cpus have been out of production for a minute. The 5700x3d isn't long for the chopping block, so I decided to jump on one.@@twindrags1
TYSM! I picked my 5700X3D from amazon for $199 and upgraded from a 5600x. Massive uplifts , much cooler, 1%lows, and my pc is buttery smooth now. 6950XT is a beastly combo with this chip. You are doing GODS WORK!
I missed out on the sale this past cyber monday/black friday....paid 250 from amazon (but I did this because it shipped and sold by amazon, It woulf have been 30 bucks cheaper thru a third party) you lucked out!
@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder Yes, it's on the setting in bios under "Overclock". not all mobo's have it. so if you see overclock click the offset and put "-x.x" slowly add it up, and yea the max is -30.
Came from a 3700x to the 5700x3d about two months ago, great upgrade, much much smoother performance in gaming instantly noticeable. Undervolting was a huge benefit for me since i just slapped the good old wraith prism onto the thing. Works just fine for those wondering.
Not on either of mine. Took me a while to figure out what was causing crashing and stutters as everyone at the time was making out like it would be so stable as to barely be even worth testing.
underclocking has literally zero chance of damaging your CPU lol. it's literally "UNDERCLOCKING" lowering voltage.. now the only thing you'd be afraid is "OVERCLOCKING" cuz as it means. It's literally amphing up the voltage on your CPU. u shouldn't be afraid of underclocking everything. Saves Watt per second which is a huge help if ur paying electricity or using solar energy to preserve power. cuz it adds up. If everything breaks just reset the CMOS in your Motherboard lol.
Thank you TYC a lot for this video instruction, helped me a lot, my 5700x3d on -30 mV is stable in Cinebech r23, but unstable in OCCT extreme cpu test and in Prime95 maximum power heat test unstable too. But after I set up 5700x3d on -25mV , are all this test programms stable :). Cinebench R23 multicore result is 13700 points, and power CPU consumption 90Watts. Motherboard is Gigabyte B450 aorus and cooler Endorfy Fera 5. Before undervolting I was afraid to do test with OCCT and Prime95, because the temperatures are rising over 90 Celsius in this tests so I stoped this tests very quickly. Now after undervolting to -25 mV, are temperatures under 90 Celsius , with 100% load and long stable. Hurrra :-) I am satisfied with this procesor for this money :-). GOOOD update after 3 months: I set voltage to -20mV , and is perfect stable after long using :), temps are good too.
@@GrizzlyShows Hi, after using 3 months, I am still satisfied, games are smooth and system is quick and stable. Only I came to the conclusion to set the voltage -20mV (with PBO tuner) is perfect stable and the procesor has good temperatures. Everythink is fine :-)
Man i love ASRock my motherboard ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 can support Ryzen 7 5700X3D, even in lower end motherboard ASRock still manage to give support to it
I had one, it's crazy how this mobo can handle some high-end CPUs, mine was with a Ryzen 3900 (65w model). The only reason I replaced this mobo was so I could overclock it.
I just got one from the Newegg deal for $180 and it came with 32gb of ram. I didnt really need it but the deal was too go to pass up. Now I can build a pc with my 5700x and flip it! Can't wait to try out the power of X3d.
@@cooleyfc I have to confess that now I put in -30, because I find some instability in DCS at -40. But, now, -30 its really doing very well. No problems at all.
@@FelipeLameiraFierceArtworks ooh okay i just want try -40 but my motherboard won't allow it, do you have another setting like PBO Limits (PPT, EDC, etc.)? or you just set auto
I didn't think Zen3 (Vermeer) CPU's recognized a Curve Optimizer value below -30 but perhaps the 5700X3D does and/or the latest AGESA V2 1.2.0.C now supports lower CO values?
Without undervolting, my 5700x3d had temperature between 64 and 66°C, which is amazing. With undervolting, I dropped thos temps for about 10°c with even better performance. Brutal
Yo brotha, what GPU are you going to pair it with? Also, what feature in the MOBO should I be looking into? I’m planning to have this as my cpu as well. Thank you! (1080p gamer for life)
@@johndotes If you're building a system from scratch you maybe should go the am5 route and get a 7500f, costs less than the 5700x3d, will lose in some tittles, win in others but more importantly you'll be able to upgrade to 9800x3d/9700x3d or whatever in the future instead of being locked in am4 with the 5000 series. 5700x3d is a great option if you already have an older Ryzen system and you want a drop in socket upgrade, but if you're building something new (you said you're getting a motherboard as well)... Not so sure.
just got my 5700x3d from R5 3600 with update bios on asus B550 f gaming used pbo turner to -20mv and used the task schedule but i also use the startup shell cmd and put the shortcut pbo2 turner on the desktop and startup folder and it work. idle 44-40c gaming 60-70c
I just recently got my 5700x3d, followed this tutorial and i was able to get -50mv on all cores stable. I ran Cinebench multiple times with no crash, it netted me a -10c in temps and over 15 less wattage. This is actually insane lmao. I almost never win the silicone lottery.
I watched this after waiting for the release of the 9600x/9700x and reviews where in some cases, they were actually worse than their previous 7000x variants, made me think, damn! What's the point! Might as well go for the current offerings. I was then trying to choose a decent B650M/7700X/DDR5 combo. But who wants to shell out decent $$$ when there's really no need. After seeing this, I was sold on getting either the 5700X3D or the 5800X3D. I was coming from a 5700X on an Aorus Pro V2 mobo, 32GB 3200 CL14 G-Skill RAM and an undervolted 4070-Ti Super, that is just magic, running at about 50° and drawing about 135w in game. (Initially had a 3070 but it developed issues)... The 5700x however was a disappointment and could barely maintain even a stable -20 PBO2 curve. After seeing this, I thought, stuff it. Go the 5800X3D. Well I got it yesterday afternoon and? DAYUMN! I couldn't be happier. After giving it a go without any undervolting, I tried it at -25, all good. Holding steady at -30, no crashes or instability so far. The B550 Aorus Pro V2 worked just fine. The 5800X3D is running about 50° and roughly drawing about 45w 'in game' with no drop in performance... WOW! What a difference over the 5700x. No need to upgrade now, lovin' it! The AM4 platform is still one of the best platforms and still kicking, thanks to these beauties. The fact that they released the 5700X3D when AM4 was deemed EOL, is very cool, guess they had an abundance of binned 5800X3D's ;).
I undervolted mine using an offset (not curve optimizer) in the BIOS, it is still stable at -100 mV offset. HWInfo shows a max voltage of 1.15V. The temperature difference is insane and the CPU now actually boosts to 4.05 GHz during an all core stresstest. Before that it would go down to 3.8 GHz during Prime95.
I strongly disagree with setting a manual offset. You should confirm the clockspeeds with actual benchmark scores. Just because it displays 4.05GHz, doesn't mean it has the performance of 4.05GHz. Typical Ryzen problem.
Great video tutorial Brian 🥰💪👍🙂↕! It’s great to see undervolting becoming more popular in the past few years. I do a quick n dirty -30 on my Ryzen CPUs and see a great temp saving a slight boost in cpu MHz frequency for literally a few moments in the bios 😇✊💪
WOW! This. Is. Insane.!!!! It just dropped 10 C and upped the clock 200MHz on max load !!!! THANK YOU
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This tool when set run on startup is very nice, not mess with system like other apps run as "background task". It's just run, show the UI very quickly "Passed parameters...." then disappear :D. (but the effect is still applied, cool) I'm using a ryzen 5700X with b550m mobo, and this thing make it better & cooler. PBO 2.0 120W reduce to 90W without losing any performance. Good tutorial btw. 1 sub 1 like
I upgraded from 5600x to 5700X3D today. I guess I am lucky to undervolt the CPU on Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING(WI-FI) bios. Package 78.3 -> 70.1 CCD#0 80.3 -> 69.5 Cores Max 77.7 -> 68.6 L3 Cache 51.5 -> 57.8 SoC 41.4 -> 40 Results are with Cinebench R23, -30mV
I'll do that -30 when it arrives. Thanks Bryan. Update: So -30 curve works. -50 works too but there is performance regression down to default settings performance. cinebench r15 went from 2174 to 2264-2270 peak was 2280. Temps went down from 78.5c peak to 72c peak (Might have to check the mx4 thermal paste application but i was more than generous with the pea size) and power from 93w peak to 81w peak. Also set ppt to 88w and see no loss in performance or clocks. These chips are hot even nhd-15 is ramping up to 1100rpm cool it. I'll have to adjust the fan curve to around 800-900 where it's inaudible cause it's becoming audible lol. Unless it's only when all cores are pegged to 100% and not gaming, then i'll leave it as is.
Running my 5700X3D with Wraith Prism cooler. In NFS Unbound without undervold CPU temps is 82c... -30 and -40 made no difference keeping CPU temp at 70-71c. Overall I'm pretty happy with the results.
@@romandulce999 I had one wraith prism cooler in my old pc with 1700, which was not that hot and it was loud asf, even a 20€ Be Quiet Pure Rock was so much better.
Reminds me of the MSI 5000X3D feature, Kombo Strike, found on motherboards like the Unify, Ace, Godlike, etc, except Kombo Strike tops out at -30mv. Apparently, MSI agrees with your sweet spot findings.
Thanks for the tutorial man, -30 makes it so my cores in cinebench was able to boost more stable higher, and like 8-9 C lower temps. I did gained like 15ish points on cinebench 2024 multi core
People with MSI mobos can also use Kombo Strike in BIOS. Works same as PBO Tuner. Kombo Strike 3 means -30mv. Upgraded PC from 2019: Ryzen 2700 > Ryzen 5700X3D RTX 2080Ti > RTX 4080 5700X3D is insane value 😀.
Ive had 970 and i-5 4460 for years. After i took a ryzen 7 1700. Now i have a 6800xt and in waiting to get the 5700x3d in 3 days, cant wait to being able to actually play
i have a 5700X3D with a AIO CoolerMaster 240ML, without uv 13590, with -40 on PBO 13741, not a big difference in points but in temps decreased like 10 to 15 C
nice vid, mine did a 13615 on cinebench R23 with -40mV undervolt with the noctua NHD15 cooler, was stable at -50mV also but changed it back to -40 :) max 62,1 C° and 83,6 watts Edit, just got a score of 13736 on 30mV undervolt
This program is great for mobile ryzen, i tried on a Ryzen 5 5675U and set the offset to -25 the battery life went from under 3hours to over 5hours with the same task, it is amazing
I set a negative offset or -30 in my BIOS and overclocked my RAM from DDR4-3200 to DDR4-3800 (FCLK 1:1) with tightened timings and I gained a considerable amount of performance. I play eSports games like Valorant and I gained an average of 50-70fps in Valorant
Good shout out, esp the 5700x3d is low price. Been using PBO2 Tuner for ages with my 5800x3d (and other AM4 CPUs). Even if you want to bake them into the bios it still quicker to tune without rebooting, then set the bios (and do a final test). I also use corecycler to test these types of undervolting (it is a bit more finicky as need to edit the ini file). Especially useful if you have an intermittent fail, it was the only thing that spotted this on my 5800x (not the x3d) by leaving it running it overnight (back of the UV on the core by 5 and all good).
If you're really scraping the bottom with a 5700X3D using a 3-pipe Cryorig M9a or similar in a 27C room, you might only get away with a PBO offset of -15 during peaky game loads. Mine crashes on occasion at -20 when building shaders at the beginning of Hogwarts Legacy and when loading in Ark-SE. Fine at no offset and -10. Testing at -15 good so far.
Glad I found this video. I was contemplating upgrading to a 5700X3D but, the prospects of needing a bigger PSU and the increased temperatures had me on the fence. I don't have an excuse anymore now ;) I'm already undervolting my 3080RTX for better performance compared to running at 100% voltage?
This Task does not work during sleep mode, after pc wakes up PBO2 Tuner has 0, so in triggers you need also to add the additional trigger “On workstation unlock of any user”.
I think I ended up at -40, but I will probably tinker with it. I do think you went way too fast at certain segments, but all in all it seems as if you've helped me. :)
Hello Bryan, could you make the same video again, but this time with the Ryzen 5800X3D? That would be really nice, bro! Please also use the same Snowman cooler and make the same comparisons with the water cooling. My Burst Assassin (120mm fan, 6 heat pipes) air cooler should normally be sufficient for the 5800X3D, but I know that this CPU can get a bit warmer, and in that case, an AIO water cooling solution might also make sense.
Nice video man! Just for better understanding, you only set the voltage -40mV ~~ -30mV, right? Have you made something else, other than change the CPU voltage and set it on task scheduler? Did you made something more than these two steps? Do I need to enable/disable anything on motherboard bios? It works on a A520 motherboard?
Ty i hate the bios on my asus prime as well, ordered 5700x3d to upgrade my 3700x since upgrading to 6900 xt ive used a few apps for adjustments and non seem to compare to intel xtu with unlocked cpu for the user IO and settings. Ill def check this one out
Noww that the snowman is pretty much the same price as thermalright's assassin king 120 SE I basically have no reason to go with the snowman on AM4. Especially since I just prefer thermalright's mounting solution. This is pretty nice to know since I'm actually thinking about upgrading to this cpu pretty soon.
Gonna give this a try. Just installed the cpu, so I think a cmos clear and windows reinstallation is worth doing but my stress test temps shoot up to 90 degrees instantly, normal temps during gaming. This might help.
with my 5700X3D, i did my adjustments in bios (X570 chipset here), but -25 all cores it freezes the system for 10 seconds once every 3 days or so... i left at -10 now and its fine. but there is no gains in most game, sometimes 1 fps or 2 at most. so, just leave at stock on a A520 motherboard and be happy!
Just bought a 5700X3D used for $140 and sold the 5700X for $120. PBO2 I just realized is not available on my Gigabyte DS3H even with the latest March 2024 F19 bios. I usually use a negative CO from -10 to -30 range and planned on doing the same on this even though temps are no higher than 75c on C23 with 3950mhz-3975mhz all core during C23.
My Ryzen 5600 gets unstable even at -5 curve. I even tried setting numbers for individual cores thinking only 1 core is a culprit.. It's a silicon lotery..
If you got your Zen 3 CPU closer to launch, it's more likely to be bad at undervolting. I had an experience with a 2021 5600 and it wasn't stable at -15 no clock offset. But another on of my 5600 from 2024 was able to do +300mhz and -30 all cores stable. Kinda unlucky for those who bought early.
After getting 5700X3D and trying this -30 on curve optimizer (in bios) for weeks. I can conclude that my 5700X3D doesn't like the -30 setting. I keep getting constant random reboots (especially on wake on sleep). My system however is stable on no undervolt or just -10 to -15. We may all have the same chip but the binning process will really differ so we won't have the same results.
this looks to be more practical than Ryzen Master, because I can just instantly lower Voltages and then test while I am working on the PC, instead of having to go through the long and tedious RM test procedures, crash, reboot, enter values in Bios, then crash again... I think I should do RM tests anyway but AFTER figuring out my values with PBO2 tuner.
Sorry to break it down to all of you but x3d chips od am4 generation will not accept anything over -30 that's just the way those cpu works, am5 on the other and can go beyond
Just so you knoe. -40 on the curve optimizer doesnt mean -40mV, its -40 steps on the voltage requested by that particular core. Here an short explanation: "Normally people will tell you best cores do less undervolting and worse cores do more undervolting and while this is true, we cannot forget Curve Optimiser offsets are an order of magnitude and not an actual value. Just because a core does -30 and another -25 it does not mean that -30 > -20 in absolute terms because the core that is at -20 might already be requesting lower VID to begin with. "
Under volting is ok but it's top end turbo speed can be affect and most cores will tend to settle an average speed. Maybe it could prolong board life but mosfets fail boards catch fire it doesn't quite save the day
I'm not sure if this is super relevant but I suspect so for the problem at hand: would this solve issues of plateaus at 100% CPU usage during gameplay wherein an older processor, say a Ryzen 3 3100, didn't have this issue? I ask because I've recently upgraded to this very processor from said Ryzen 3 and have run into some really odd CPU usage plateaus and, at best, spikes to high 90's in percentage. Thanks in advance, awesome video! (P.S.: Running with 650W power supply, RTX 3050 GPU, water cooled.)
My 5700X3D can't when in a 27C room but my cooling is pretty minimal with a 3-pipe Cryorig M9s. -10 is fine all the time and -20 is stable when it's colder but not at 27C.
On an Asus Prime B550, for me doing a negative offset past -10 actually hindered performance on Assetto Corsa Competizione which is the only game I want max fps. Not sure if its because of its utilisation of the L3 cache. As the -10 made little difference I've just gone back to stock. Cooler is Noctua U12S.
It may be unstable on some CPU's when undervolting. I tried undervolting a AM4 chip but it's unstable for whatever reason. It doesn't want to undervolt at all. Just saying it could possibly happen.
When you set up your Task Scheduler, you told it that if there was an instance already running to queue up another instance. I don't understand that setting at all. Would you explain why you did that? Thanks... this is a very helpful video.
Hey guys some comments about minus 30 being the lowest setting possible on am4. Will definitely test again in the morning as I know there was a reasonable difference between 30 and 40. Perhaps the board could be overvolting slighlty by default. Though Will look into it.
Pbo2 tuner is a great program though and no harm will be done with minus settings. So nothing to fear there. All you have to fear is a crash, so just don't have anything unsaved whilst tuning.
If you set it to -40 the PBO2 Tuner acts like it has made it -40 but if you close the program and open it back up again you will see in reality it's only been set to -30. On my 5800X3D i have it set to -30 but on core 0 and core 2 i can only do -21 without it crashing and it's worth mentioning if you change to a new BIOS with a different AGESA version a previously stable undervolt can become unstable.
@@Spectrophia 5800X3D is limited to -30 i believe. Other standard models should still accept -40 even with PBO2 Tuner.
PBO2 Tuner was also great for 5800X3D owners because initially AMD did not have CO in BIOS. Later when they added it, PBO2 Tuner became largely unnecessary.
Have you tested with OCCT at all??? The 57X3D SKU is clocked lower than the 58X3D and mostly consists of bad 58X3D bins so it's pretty impressive that your system is even stable with -30, let alone -50... I highly doubt that your settings will work with most 57X3D's.
@@kingeling I have tested in OCCT and even had the world records on it. I own the 5800X3D not the 5700X3D. The funny thing with these chips is you can be 100% stable in OCCT but you wont know if it's really stable until you let it idle in windows or use chrome browsers etc. The voltage is lowest in those scenarios and that is when the WHEA can strike if it's not getting enough voltage for the idle states.
Que tipo de refrigeración estás usando??
Gracias, saludos y exitos from spain!
That mic sounds superb. Was really refreshing to see you using Task scheduler. It was my best friend years ago, but I have been to lazy to setup for a few years now. !Cheers on another great video.
Cool, thanks!
Been rocking the 5800x3D with a B550 UD AC and 3080 FTW3 12GB for a while now, with a combo of tuned b-die, PBO2 tuner -25 all core, 102 BCLK and a hefty OC on the 3080 I took #1 (for this hw combo) in timespy and gaming is buttery at 1440p, cinebench R23 ~15.4k. Great video showing off that AM4 longevity
We are twinning, same exact setup I have a FTW3 12gb 3080 non ti and 5800x3d. I am rocking a gigabyte auroa master mobo though. I didn't bother with BCLK but I may try a small 1 or 2 mhz bump like you. I had issues with an external drive messing with bclk OC on a previous PC that corrupted my drive so I am hesitant, now I have a nas so it doesn't matter.
@@jonas000111 BCLK up to 102 generally works well on most B550 boards, but if you're on a X570 Master it may not work at all. My chip is pretty good and I'm trying to source a B550 unify-x since it's one of the few boards with a properly functioning clockgen, could probably do 108 and a better IF clock since it's two dimm.
@@SyndicatesFollower Thanks for the heads up.
ud ac y1?
@ No it's the B550 gigabyte board, B550 UD AC
Undervolt really makes a huge difference. My Ryzen 5 5600 reaches 80c in heavy gaming, now it barely reaches 60C and barely reaches 60watts thanks to Tech YES City for teaching me how to undervolt.
80c for heavy gaming on ryzen cpu if perfectly normal. those cpu are made for that
@@TheTwiix hell nah. I used to have a R5 3600, used to get over 80c while gaming. Bought a nice cooler from cooler masters, a great thermal paste, and it stopped going up to over 45c on cyberpunk ( ultra )
@krosis8058 all zen3-4 are made to reach high temps with no problem. You can do some research and confrim. Of course you dont need to reach those temps
@@TheTwiix The problem is, the clockspeed drops with higher temps. By keeping it cooler you get more performance.
@@krosis8058 got a 3600 too, replacing thermal paste every year or so helps sooo much.
I just got a 5700x3d for like 5hours ago upgraded from a 5600 non-x. PBO2 settings tinkered and now the idle CPU power ranges from 5.4-7W @38-40C while having 5 chrome tabs and discord at the back using a Thermalright Pearless Assasin 120. Paired it with my undervolted 6800xt and runs below 60C @
Actually im thinking of buying the 5700x3d. I have the same cooler and 5600. Is the performance jump huge or at least medium better than 5600?
@@Pawankalyan1 u would have to test it out for urself
@@nexztrah3712 I dont have funds to get that cpu yet🤣
@@Pawankalyan1 well for one the x3d models have more cache. it's specifically designed for gaming. x3d models are obviously quite a performance leap from a 5600 lol
@ thanks
The task scheduler method is a huge frickin help. Thanks
just a heads up, PBO2 value is measured in "ticks", each tick roughly translates to ~3 to 5 mV. So, with 30 ticks you're actually undervolting by ~90 to 150 mV.
An actual 30mV undervolt wouldn't result in a sizeable temp and power reduction.
That definitely makes sense and is pretty interesting
i did it and it was so nice
before tuning i got 12405 pts (max temp 82c)
after tuning (-30) i got 13622 pts (max temp 72c)
thank you!
How many cores did you end up applying 30 to?
Now I can watch Tech YES City even faster!
This improved a lot my temps and performance. I'm using a ab350m-ds3h v2, a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 V2, with the 5700X 3D. The average temp without undervolting while gaming is around 70°C, but with undervolt of 30mv, temperatures decreased 5 to 10 °C. Cinebench went from 12300 to 13100 points. CPU-Z went from 5560 to 5800 points. I thank you a lot for this tip!
May I ask what temps you have in your room?
I have the same cooler (actually the V1, but it should have the same performance), and I was planning to upgrade to a 5700x3d in the next weeks.
The problem is that it's summer where I live and my room usually sits around 30 C°, so I'm not sure if my current setup is gonna be enough.
@@costantino9388 It fluctuates between 16 and 25 Celsius this season. I live in Brasil by the way
@@arthurzampirolli Thanks, I'll try with the Gammax and see, I would prefer to keep it if possible.
@@costantino9388 I think a thing that works really well for me is that i have a 120mm fan from delta(can reach about 3200RPM) on the exhaust of the case. This fan is alone, i don't have any intake fans.
@@arthurzampirolli Thanks for the help, I upgraded and used the Arctic MX2 thermal paste (I was using the MX 4 before), tried a cinebench 2024 run and the 5700x3d did not go over 80 °C, same as the 3600 I was using.
Applying an undervolt of -30 mv on all cores also reduced the max temperatures of 5 °C, so I guess I'm fine :)
I just upgraded from 5600x GPU:3060 ti to 5700x3d with same gpu. Its about 20% to 30% boost all around the board in games (With no DLSS or FSR)
i have a 3700 and a 2080super and have been debating getting a 5700 X3D for a while
@@Kagemyth it is worth. 2080 and 3060 ti both has almost the same performance. Also %1 and %0.1 dips are no longer below 50-60 FPS
totally get it 5700x3d is a beast@@Kagemyth
went from ryzen 5500 to 5600x3D with a 3060ti, 1 percent lows shot up like 10-20 frames, and my max fps is generally way better ! good call
Went from ryzen 7 1700x with 1080 to 5700x3d with 1080.
Plus 400 fps on cs2 with low settings. Incredible cpu.
I decided to switch to the 5700x3d from the 5800x3d and I'm satisfied with the decision. I opted for the downgrade because my 5800x3d was unstable, and Microcenter had no replacements available. With that in mind, the video was quite helpful; it helped me save money while achieving similar performance.
I see no more 5800x3ds for sale over here, wonder if they stopped producing because of that reason, and made the 5700x3ds instead? Conspiracy theory time? :p
@@twindrags1 probably the future 58xd3s became the 5800XT
Google confirms these cpus have been out of production for a minute. The 5700x3d isn't long for the chopping block, so I decided to jump on one.@@twindrags1
Díky!
TYSM! I picked my 5700X3D from amazon for $199 and upgraded from a 5600x. Massive uplifts , much cooler, 1%lows, and my pc is buttery smooth now. 6950XT is a beastly combo with this chip. You are doing GODS WORK!
I missed out on the sale this past cyber monday/black friday....paid 250 from amazon (but I did this because it shipped and sold by amazon, It woulf have been 30 bucks cheaper thru a third party) you lucked out!
What gpu and did u up the base boost speed from 3Ghz
Cool video showing how to use that program, my 5800x3d is already undervolted from my bios, but thats a very handy program to tell people about. 😊
so there is a way to apply all of that in the bios once im satisfied with the numbers right?
@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder no, bios actually didn't allow you to go under - 30. It's a limit.
@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder Yes, it's on the setting in bios under "Overclock". not all mobo's have it. so if you see overclock click the offset and put "-x.x" slowly add it up, and yea the max is -30.
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 are you referring to the Curve Optimizer setting?
Came from a 3700x to the 5700x3d about two months ago, great upgrade, much much smoother performance in gaming instantly noticeable. Undervolting was a huge benefit for me since i just slapped the good old wraith prism onto the thing. Works just fine for those wondering.
Thanks. This was the information that i was looking for. haha
How much did your rpm and temperature go down?
i made the exact same upgrade with the trusty old wraith prism, still cant belive that beauty came as stock cooler
I upgraded from a 2700x today
eft from 40-50fps to 130-150 🤣
@ItachiUchiha-yc9nv congrats on the upgrade
Another "Tech Yes Under Volt⚡️" tip 🎉
Very useful, I just got a 5700X3D myself.
How to download pbo2 plz help
Straight -30 has been solid on my 5800X3D for the past 2 years.
Same here. Got lucky i suppose.
Not on either of mine. Took me a while to figure out what was causing crashing and stutters as everyone at the time was making out like it would be so stable as to barely be even worth testing.
I'm using -30 on my 5800x for months now no problem
I used to use -30 on mine but it was causing crashes in darktide so i'm at -20 now and chillin.
I applied a -30 in the bios and it does seem to have helped. Very cool thanks. My first undervolt.
Given the state of the CPU market, I wouldn't touch my CPU OC without a video like this. Hopefully that changes in the future. Thanks Brian.
underclocking has literally zero chance of damaging your CPU lol. it's literally "UNDERCLOCKING" lowering voltage.. now the only thing you'd be afraid is "OVERCLOCKING" cuz as it means. It's literally amphing up the voltage on your CPU.
u shouldn't be afraid of underclocking everything. Saves Watt per second which is a huge help if ur paying electricity or using solar energy to preserve power. cuz it adds up. If everything breaks just reset the CMOS in your Motherboard lol.
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 thanks for clarifying
Just upgraded from a 1600 to this bad boy :D , ty am4!
me to, it's a beast =)
So did i
Thank you TYC a lot for this video instruction, helped me a lot,
my 5700x3d on -30 mV is stable in Cinebech r23, but unstable in OCCT extreme cpu test and in Prime95 maximum power heat test unstable too. But after I set up 5700x3d on -25mV , are all this test programms stable :). Cinebench R23 multicore result is 13700 points, and power CPU consumption 90Watts. Motherboard is Gigabyte B450 aorus and cooler Endorfy Fera 5. Before undervolting I was afraid to do test with OCCT and Prime95, because the temperatures are rising over 90 Celsius in this tests so I stoped this tests very quickly. Now after undervolting to -25 mV, are temperatures under 90 Celsius , with 100% load and long stable. Hurrra :-)
I am satisfied with this procesor for this money :-). GOOOD update after 3 months: I set voltage to -20mV , and is perfect stable after long using :), temps are good too.
what is current condition?
@@GrizzlyShows Hi, after using 3 months, I am still satisfied, games are smooth and system is quick and stable. Only I came to the conclusion to set the voltage -20mV (with PBO tuner) is perfect stable and the procesor has good temperatures. Everythink is fine :-)
Love your under-volting videos. Today's chips are too power hungry by default. Running a cool undervolted Alderlake thanks to your content.
Getting an average of 13628 (3 runs) in CBR23 at -30mV air-cooled. Absolutely pleased.
Man i love ASRock my motherboard ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 can support Ryzen 7 5700X3D, even in lower end motherboard ASRock still manage to give support to it
I had one, it's crazy how this mobo can handle some high-end CPUs, mine was with a Ryzen 3900 (65w model). The only reason I replaced this mobo was so I could overclock it.
bro how is it working now??
@@GrizzlyShows it still working until now but had to undervolt it a bit because it was running too hot
Max 55º with a cheap air cooler on Death Stranding Ultra Settings. Thats insane. Thank you!
I just got one from the Newegg deal for $180 and it came with 32gb of ram. I didnt really need it but the deal was too go to pass up. Now I can build a pc with my 5700x and flip it! Can't wait to try out the power of X3d.
Wow what a deal. The ram itself probably costs 100 alone so the cpu is 80 bucks. That's nuts. Got my 5700x3d for 185 eur which is a steal in eu.
How is it
Working here with -40 and, until now, so far so good. Thanks for the tips!
what about now still good -40?
@@cooleyfc I have to confess that now I put in -30, because I find some instability in DCS at -40. But, now, -30 its really doing very well. No problems at all.
@@FelipeLameiraFierceArtworks ooh okay i just want try -40 but my motherboard won't allow it, do you have another setting like PBO Limits (PPT, EDC, etc.)? or you just set auto
@cooleyfc not allowing u to do -40? I use a B550 MSI gaming plus and not have any problem to set this. But u can test this using Pbo2 turner
Thank you! Thats was a lot of improvement on my setup.
Great work as always. Just installed my 5700x3d last week and now its temps are down from 91 to 77 during Cinebench
I didn't think Zen3 (Vermeer) CPU's recognized a Curve Optimizer value below -30 but perhaps the 5700X3D does and/or the latest AGESA V2 1.2.0.C now supports lower CO values?
I went from 1800x to 5700X3D today. Rather than a higher FPS, the smoothness of games has increased. Also +10 FPS in Cyberpunk in general.
RTX 3070
You can never play enough Pokémon with your son. All good here
Without undervolting, my 5700x3d had temperature between 64 and 66°C, which is amazing. With undervolting, I dropped thos temps for about 10°c with even better performance. Brutal
Man you are awesome ! I cant wait to get my 5700x3d in the mail
Yo brotha, what GPU are you going to pair it with? Also, what feature in the MOBO should I be looking into? I’m planning to have this as my cpu as well. Thank you! (1080p gamer for life)
@@johndotes If you're building a system from scratch you maybe should go the am5 route and get a 7500f, costs less than the 5700x3d, will lose in some tittles, win in others but more importantly you'll be able to upgrade to 9800x3d/9700x3d or whatever in the future instead of being locked in am4 with the 5000 series. 5700x3d is a great option if you already have an older Ryzen system and you want a drop in socket upgrade, but if you're building something new (you said you're getting a motherboard as well)... Not so sure.
@@superior96 Hey, thanks for taking the time. I did get the 7500f.. I've had the build for almost a week now, no regrets :)
@@johndotes Yeah I have it with my RX 6900xt. I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3600 that my bother gave me as place holder CPU
just got my 5700x3d from R5 3600 with update bios on asus B550 f gaming used pbo turner to -20mv and used the task schedule but i also use the startup shell cmd and put the shortcut pbo2 turner on the desktop and startup folder and it work. idle 44-40c gaming 60-70c
I just recently got my 5700x3d, followed this tutorial and i was able to get -50mv on all cores stable. I ran Cinebench multiple times with no crash, it netted me a -10c in temps and over 15 less wattage. This is actually insane lmao. I almost never win the silicone lottery.
I watched this after waiting for the release of the 9600x/9700x and reviews where in some cases, they were actually worse than their previous 7000x variants, made me think, damn! What's the point! Might as well go for the current offerings. I was then trying to choose a decent B650M/7700X/DDR5 combo. But who wants to shell out decent $$$ when there's really no need.
After seeing this, I was sold on getting either the 5700X3D or the 5800X3D. I was coming from a 5700X on an Aorus Pro V2 mobo, 32GB 3200 CL14 G-Skill RAM and an undervolted 4070-Ti Super, that is just magic, running at about 50° and drawing about 135w in game. (Initially had a 3070 but it developed issues)... The 5700x however was a disappointment and could barely maintain even a stable -20 PBO2 curve. After seeing this, I thought, stuff it. Go the 5800X3D.
Well I got it yesterday afternoon and? DAYUMN! I couldn't be happier. After giving it a go without any undervolting, I tried it at -25, all good. Holding steady at -30, no crashes or instability so far. The B550 Aorus Pro V2 worked just fine. The 5800X3D is running about 50° and roughly drawing about 45w 'in game' with no drop in performance... WOW! What a difference over the 5700x. No need to upgrade now, lovin' it! The AM4 platform is still one of the best platforms and still kicking, thanks to these beauties. The fact that they released the 5700X3D when AM4 was deemed EOL, is very cool, guess they had an abundance of binned 5800X3D's ;).
I undervolted mine using an offset (not curve optimizer) in the BIOS, it is still stable at -100 mV offset. HWInfo shows a max voltage of 1.15V. The temperature difference is insane and the CPU now actually boosts to 4.05 GHz during an all core stresstest. Before that it would go down to 3.8 GHz during Prime95.
I strongly disagree with setting a manual offset. You should confirm the clockspeeds with actual benchmark scores. Just because it displays 4.05GHz, doesn't mean it has the performance of 4.05GHz. Typical Ryzen problem.
Interesting video. 5700X3D great budget banger build.
Thank you so much! This is saving my day :)
Can't wait to try this with my 5600x3d
Ps. Sonic music at the end is the shit. I love Sonic
What did you end up setting it to? Did you notice any change? I have the same CPU with Asus Tuf X570 MB
Great video tutorial Brian 🥰💪👍🙂↕!
It’s great to see undervolting becoming more popular in the past few years. I do a quick n dirty -30 on my Ryzen CPUs and see a great temp saving a slight boost in cpu MHz frequency for literally a few moments in the bios 😇✊💪
WOW! This. Is. Insane.!!!! It just dropped 10 C and upped the clock 200MHz on max load !!!! THANK YOU
This tool when set run on startup is very nice, not mess with system like other apps run as "background task". It's just run, show the UI very quickly "Passed parameters...." then disappear :D. (but the effect is still applied, cool)
I'm using a ryzen 5700X with b550m mobo, and this thing make it better & cooler. PBO 2.0 120W reduce to 90W without losing any performance.
Good tutorial btw. 1 sub 1 like
I upgraded from 5600x to 5700X3D today. I guess I am lucky to undervolt the CPU on Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING(WI-FI) bios.
Package 78.3 -> 70.1
CCD#0 80.3 -> 69.5
Cores Max 77.7 -> 68.6
L3 Cache 51.5 -> 57.8
SoC 41.4 -> 40
Results are with Cinebench R23, -30mV
I'll do that -30 when it arrives. Thanks Bryan.
Update: So -30 curve works. -50 works too but there is performance regression down to default settings performance. cinebench r15 went from 2174 to 2264-2270 peak was 2280. Temps went down from 78.5c peak to 72c peak (Might have to check the mx4 thermal paste application but i was more than generous with the pea size) and power from 93w peak to 81w peak. Also set ppt to 88w and see no loss in performance or clocks. These chips are hot even nhd-15 is ramping up to 1100rpm cool it. I'll have to adjust the fan curve to around 800-900 where it's inaudible cause it's becoming audible lol. Unless it's only when all cores are pegged to 100% and not gaming, then i'll leave it as is.
Running my 5700X3D with Wraith Prism cooler. In NFS Unbound without undervold CPU temps is 82c... -30 and -40 made no difference keeping CPU temp at 70-71c. Overall I'm pretty happy with the results.
for 30€ you get a CPU cooler like the DeepCool AK400, which is cooler, way more silent than the Wraith Prism.
@ But does not look so cool and authentic.
@@romandulce999 The cooler is inefficient, it is loud and it is not cooling enough.
@@ibobeko4309 Max i get with it is 71c under heavy load. And its not that loud in my sistem. Does the job for me. :)
@@romandulce999 I had one wraith prism cooler in my old pc with 1700, which was not that hot and it was loud asf, even a 20€ Be Quiet Pure Rock was so much better.
Reminds me of the MSI 5000X3D feature, Kombo Strike, found on motherboards like the Unify, Ace, Godlike, etc, except Kombo Strike tops out at -30mv. Apparently, MSI agrees with your sweet spot findings.
Thanks for the tutorial man, -30 makes it so my cores in cinebench was able to boost more stable higher, and like 8-9 C lower temps. I did gained like 15ish points on cinebench 2024 multi core
People with MSI mobos can also use Kombo Strike in BIOS. Works same as PBO Tuner. Kombo Strike 3 means -30mv.
Upgraded PC from 2019:
Ryzen 2700 > Ryzen 5700X3D
RTX 2080Ti > RTX 4080
5700X3D is insane value 😀.
Bro thanks! I was wondering what the heck is kombo strike,its very similar to fighting game move
Im considering upgrading my 3600 and rx 5600xt Worth? Looking at the 5700x3d with a rx 7700? How long could this upgrade run cs2 at over 240 fps?
Ive had 970 and i-5 4460 for years. After i took a ryzen 7 1700.
Now i have a 6800xt and in waiting to get the 5700x3d in 3 days, cant wait to being able to actually play
@@vidicisthegoat5444 That should last for a while
Where can I see the kombo strike, I have an older msi mobo b450 tomahawk non max
i have a 5700X3D with a AIO CoolerMaster 240ML, without uv 13590, with -40 on PBO 13741, not a big difference in points but in temps decreased like 10 to 15 C
Long time not seen, welcome back!
Dropped from around 75C to about 67C with the 30mv undervolt on my 5700X3D on full load, definitely worth doing this.
Got it all the way to -45 and see no problems with OCCT.
VRM temps on B450 DS3H drop almost 20 degrees. Nice
Thanks for the video!
very nice, but I would be interested if you would do Prime95 heat maximum test without errors, 5minuts are enough. thank you
nice vid, mine did a 13615 on cinebench R23 with -40mV undervolt with the noctua NHD15 cooler, was stable at -50mV also but changed it back to -40 :) max 62,1 C° and 83,6 watts
Edit, just got a score of 13736 on 30mV undervolt
This program is great for mobile ryzen, i tried on a Ryzen 5 5675U and set the offset to -25 the battery life went from under 3hours to over 5hours with the same task, it is amazing
Seen this before, thank you for covering it ^^
I set a negative offset or -30 in my BIOS and overclocked my RAM from DDR4-3200 to DDR4-3800 (FCLK 1:1) with tightened timings and I gained a considerable amount of performance. I play eSports games like Valorant and I gained an average of 50-70fps in Valorant
Brooo i just bought my 5700x3d and i love playing valorant, how many fps do u get?
Pretty sure most of the diff is from the cpu undervolting, there isn’t that much diff in 3200 or 3800 ram, not even noticeable in fps
nice info, thanks as always!
Thank you Christopher Walken my CPU is running much cooler now ❤
Good shout out, esp the 5700x3d is low price.
Been using PBO2 Tuner for ages with my 5800x3d (and other AM4 CPUs). Even if you want to bake them into the bios it still quicker to tune without rebooting, then set the bios (and do a final test).
I also use corecycler to test these types of undervolting (it is a bit more finicky as need to edit the ini file). Especially useful if you have an intermittent fail, it was the only thing that spotted this on my 5800x (not the x3d) by leaving it running it overnight (back of the UV on the core by 5 and all good).
Set different -30 or less depending on testing for stability. Go down -5 lower for each core until stable.
If you're really scraping the bottom with a 5700X3D using a 3-pipe Cryorig M9a or similar in a 27C room, you might only get away with a PBO offset of -15 during peaky game loads. Mine crashes on occasion at -20 when building shaders at the beginning of Hogwarts Legacy and when loading in Ark-SE. Fine at no offset and -10. Testing at -15 good so far.
Undervolting tutorials by the YES man extracting that value
Glad I found this video. I was contemplating upgrading to a 5700X3D but, the prospects of needing a bigger PSU and the increased temperatures had me on the fence. I don't have an excuse anymore now ;) I'm already undervolting my 3080RTX for better performance compared to running at 100% voltage?
This Task does not work during sleep mode, after pc wakes up PBO2 Tuner has 0, so in triggers you need also to add the additional trigger “On workstation unlock of any user”.
I think I ended up at -40, but I will probably tinker with it. I do think you went way too fast at certain segments, but all in all it seems as if you've helped me. :)
Much thanks! I find get value in this video!
Thank you so much for the explanation
fun fact if you own a steamdeck LCD or OLED you can undervolt the CPU/GPU/SOC in the bios for lower temp, noise and longer battery life.
Thank mr. TechYESCity 🤘
Hello Bryan, could you make the same video again, but this time with the Ryzen 5800X3D? That would be really nice, bro! Please also use the same Snowman cooler and make the same comparisons with the water cooling. My Burst Assassin (120mm fan, 6 heat pipes) air cooler should normally be sufficient for the 5800X3D, but I know that this CPU can get a bit warmer, and in that case, an AIO water cooling solution might also make sense.
AIO does not instantly mean better :) you'll be fine.
Brain love the sf 2 music should use it more haaaarrdoooken!! thank you great video just saved me and my fps is loads better thank you so much
Nice video man! Just for better understanding, you only set the voltage -40mV ~~ -30mV, right? Have you made something else, other than change the CPU voltage and set it on task scheduler? Did you made something more than these two steps? Do I need to enable/disable anything on motherboard bios? It works on a A520 motherboard?
Ty i hate the bios on my asus prime as well, ordered 5700x3d to upgrade my 3700x since upgrading to 6900 xt ive used a few apps for adjustments and non seem to compare to intel xtu with unlocked cpu for the user IO and settings. Ill def check this one out
Noww that the snowman is pretty much the same price as thermalright's assassin king 120 SE I basically have no reason to go with the snowman on AM4. Especially since I just prefer thermalright's mounting solution.
This is pretty nice to know since I'm actually thinking about upgrading to this cpu pretty soon.
Technically it doesn't undervolt, it just move the necessary voltage for the clock, kinda
Gonna give this a try. Just installed the cpu, so I think a cmos clear and windows reinstallation is worth doing but my stress test temps shoot up to 90 degrees instantly, normal temps during gaming. This might help.
with my 5700X3D, i did my adjustments in bios (X570 chipset here), but -25 all cores it freezes the system for 10 seconds once every 3 days or so... i left at -10 now and its fine. but there is no gains in most game, sometimes 1 fps or 2 at most. so, just leave at stock on a A520 motherboard and be happy!
its about the temps, not the fps gains primarily
The 5800x are on x570 unify boards.
Pbo, 200 over boost. Curv is -5 -5 for the two fastest cores and -18 on the rest.
Just bought a 5700X3D used for $140 and sold the 5700X for $120. PBO2 I just realized is not available on my Gigabyte DS3H even with the latest March 2024 F19 bios. I usually use a negative CO from -10 to -30 range and planned on doing the same on this even though temps are no higher than 75c on C23 with 3950mhz-3975mhz all core during C23.
Hey great video but I don't want another program running in the background. Do you also have a tutorial on how to do this through your bios?
My Ryzen 5600 gets unstable even at -5 curve. I even tried setting numbers for individual cores thinking only 1 core is a culprit.. It's a silicon lotery..
X3D chips are much better binned than the non-X3D ones.
You dont neednto undervolt 5600 its already low powered
@@zilverman7820I still PBO -30 on my 5600, clock speed went up 150 to 200mhz. It’s no much difference, but it’s free and stable for me, why not?
If you got your Zen 3 CPU closer to launch, it's more likely to be bad at undervolting. I had an experience with a 2021 5600 and it wasn't stable at -15 no clock offset. But another on of my 5600 from 2024 was able to do +300mhz and -30 all cores stable. Kinda unlucky for those who bought early.
The BIOS updates also change things.
My 5950X when I got it could do -29 CO, but a few BIOS updates later and it can only do -20 CO now.
After getting 5700X3D and trying this -30 on curve optimizer (in bios) for weeks. I can conclude that my 5700X3D doesn't like the -30 setting. I keep getting constant random reboots (especially on wake on sleep). My system however is stable on no undervolt or just -10 to -15.
We may all have the same chip but the binning process will really differ so we won't have the same results.
this looks to be more practical than Ryzen Master, because I can just instantly lower Voltages and then test while I am working on the PC, instead of having to go through the long and tedious RM test procedures, crash, reboot, enter values in Bios, then crash again... I think I should do RM tests anyway but AFTER figuring out my values with PBO2 tuner.
Sorry to break it down to all of you but x3d chips od am4 generation will not accept anything over -30 that's just the way those cpu works, am5 on the other and can go beyond
On my 7800X3D safe curve is -35 on AIO and -30 on one tower air cooler. With tight OC RAM of course.
Recommended settings for PPT, TDC, EDC?
Would like to know for bios settings to further fine tune the undervolt
Whatever motherboard can do.
PBO limits = Motherboard
Just so you knoe. -40 on the curve optimizer doesnt mean -40mV, its -40 steps on the voltage requested by that particular core. Here an short explanation:
"Normally people will tell you best cores do less undervolting and worse cores do more undervolting and while this is true, we cannot forget Curve Optimiser offsets are an order of magnitude and not an actual value. Just because a core does -30 and another -25 it does not mean that -30 > -20 in absolute terms because the core that is at -20 might already be requesting lower VID to begin with. "
Under volting is ok but it's top end turbo speed can be affect and most cores will tend to settle an average speed.
Maybe it could prolong board life but mosfets fail boards catch fire it doesn't quite save the day
I'm not sure if this is super relevant but I suspect so for the problem at hand: would this solve issues of plateaus at 100% CPU usage during gameplay wherein an older processor, say a Ryzen 3 3100, didn't have this issue? I ask because I've recently upgraded to this very processor from said Ryzen 3 and have run into some really odd CPU usage plateaus and, at best, spikes to high 90's in percentage. Thanks in advance, awesome video! (P.S.: Running with 650W power supply, RTX 3050 GPU, water cooled.)
Iv heard some can’t even run a negative 20 offset
My 5700X3D can't when in a 27C room but my cooling is pretty minimal with a 3-pipe Cryorig M9s. -10 is fine all the time and -20 is stable when it's colder but not at 27C.
if you have an msi motherboard you can enable kombo strike in bios for the same effect but on the bios side.
-30 and kombostrike 3.
On an Asus Prime B550, for me doing a negative offset past -10 actually hindered performance on Assetto Corsa Competizione which is the only game I want max fps. Not sure if its because of its utilisation of the L3 cache. As the -10 made little difference I've just gone back to stock. Cooler is Noctua U12S.
It may be unstable on some CPU's when undervolting. I tried undervolting a AM4 chip but it's unstable for whatever reason. It doesn't want to undervolt at all. Just saying it could possibly happen.
When you set up your Task Scheduler, you told it that if there was an instance already running to queue up another instance. I don't understand that setting at all.
Would you explain why you did that?
Thanks... this is a very helpful video.
Hard to get excited about 15 watts, but the better temps look great
Meanwhile your monitor uses 30-100W each :~)
great video bro