Hey guys some comments about minus 30 being the lowest setting possible on am4. Will definitely test again in the morning as I know there was a reasonable difference between 30 and 40. Perhaps the board could be overvolting slighlty by default. Though Will look into it. Pbo2 tuner is a great program though and no harm will be done with minus settings. So nothing to fear there. All you have to fear is a crash, so just don't have anything unsaved whilst tuning.
If you set it to -40 the PBO2 Tuner acts like it has made it -40 but if you close the program and open it back up again you will see in reality it's only been set to -30. On my 5800X3D i have it set to -30 but on core 0 and core 2 i can only do -21 without it crashing and it's worth mentioning if you change to a new BIOS with a different AGESA version a previously stable undervolt can become unstable.
@@Yolo_Swaggins 5800X3D is limited to -30 i believe. Other standard models should still accept -40 even with PBO2 Tuner. PBO2 Tuner was also great for 5800X3D owners because initially AMD did not have CO in BIOS. Later when they added it, PBO2 Tuner became largely unnecessary.
Have you tested with OCCT at all??? The 57X3D SKU is clocked lower than the 58X3D and mostly consists of bad 58X3D bins so it's pretty impressive that your system is even stable with -30, let alone -50... I highly doubt that your settings will work with most 57X3D's.
@@kingeling I have tested in OCCT and even had the world records on it. I own the 5800X3D not the 5700X3D. The funny thing with these chips is you can be 100% stable in OCCT but you wont know if it's really stable until you let it idle in windows or use chrome browsers etc. The voltage is lowest in those scenarios and that is when the WHEA can strike if it's not getting enough voltage for the idle states.
I just got a 5700x3d for like 5hours ago upgraded from a 5600 non-x. PBO2 settings tinkered and now the idle CPU power ranges from 5.4-7W @38-40C while having 5 chrome tabs and discord at the back using a Thermalright Pearless Assasin 120. Paired it with my undervolted 6800xt and runs below 60C @
That mic sounds superb. Was really refreshing to see you using Task scheduler. It was my best friend years ago, but I have been to lazy to setup for a few years now. !Cheers on another great video.
Been rocking the 5800x3D with a B550 UD AC and 3080 FTW3 12GB for a while now, with a combo of tuned b-die, PBO2 tuner -25 all core, 102 BCLK and a hefty OC on the 3080 I took #1 (for this hw combo) in timespy and gaming is buttery at 1440p, cinebench R23 ~15.4k. Great video showing off that AM4 longevity
We are twinning, same exact setup I have a FTW3 12gb 3080 non ti and 5800x3d. I am rocking a gigabyte auroa master mobo though. I didn't bother with BCLK but I may try a small 1 or 2 mhz bump like you. I had issues with an external drive messing with bclk OC on a previous PC that corrupted my drive so I am hesitant, now I have a nas so it doesn't matter.
@@jonas000111 BCLK up to 102 generally works well on most B550 boards, but if you're on a X570 Master it may not work at all. My chip is pretty good and I'm trying to source a B550 unify-x since it's one of the few boards with a properly functioning clockgen, could probably do 108 and a better IF clock since it's two dimm.
Undervolt really makes a huge difference. My Ryzen 5 5600 reaches 80c in heavy gaming, now it barely reaches 60C and barely reaches 60watts thanks to Tech YES City for teaching me how to undervolt.
@@TheTwiix hell nah. I used to have a R5 3600, used to get over 80c while gaming. Bought a nice cooler from cooler masters, a great thermal paste, and it stopped going up to over 45c on cyberpunk ( ultra )
@krosis8058 all zen3-4 are made to reach high temps with no problem. You can do some research and confrim. Of course you dont need to reach those temps
TYSM! I picked my 5700X3D from amazon for $199 and upgraded from a 5600x. Massive uplifts , much cooler, 1%lows, and my pc is buttery smooth now. 6950XT is a beastly combo with this chip. You are doing GODS WORK!
Thank you TYC a lot for this video instruction, helped me a lot, my 5700x3d on -30 mV is stable in Cinebech r23, but unstable in OCCT extreme cpu test and in Prime95 maximum power heat test unstable too. But after I set up 5700x3d on -25mV , are all this test programms stable :). Cinebench R23 multicore result is 13700 points, and power CPU consumption 90Watts. Motherboard is Gigabyte B450 aorus and cooler Endorfy Fera 5. Before undervolting I was afraid to do test with OCCT and Prime95, because the temperatures are rising over 90 Celsius in this tests so I stoped this tests very quickly. Now after undervolting to -25 mV, are temperatures under 90 Celsius , with 100% load and long stable. Hurrra :-) I am satisfied with this procesor for this money :-). GOOOD
This improved a lot my temps and performance. I'm using a ab350m-ds3h v2, a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 V2, with the 5700X 3D. The average temp without undervolting while gaming is around 70°C, but with undervolt of 30mv, temperatures decreased 5 to 10 °C. Cinebench went from 12300 to 13100 points. CPU-Z went from 5560 to 5800 points. I thank you a lot for this tip!
May I ask what temps you have in your room? I have the same cooler (actually the V1, but it should have the same performance), and I was planning to upgrade to a 5700x3d in the next weeks. The problem is that it's summer where I live and my room usually sits around 30 C°, so I'm not sure if my current setup is gonna be enough.
@@costantinonieddu9388 I think a thing that works really well for me is that i have a 120mm fan from delta(can reach about 3200RPM) on the exhaust of the case. This fan is alone, i don't have any intake fans.
@@arthurzampirolli Thanks for the help, I upgraded and used the Arctic MX2 thermal paste (I was using the MX 4 before), tried a cinebench 2024 run and the 5700x3d did not go over 80 °C, same as the 3600 I was using. Applying an undervolt of -30 mv on all cores also reduced the max temperatures of 5 °C, so I guess I'm fine :)
I decided to switch to the 5700x3d from the 5800x3d and I'm satisfied with the decision. I opted for the downgrade because my 5800x3d was unstable, and Microcenter had no replacements available. With that in mind, the video was quite helpful; it helped me save money while achieving similar performance.
underclocking has literally zero chance of damaging your CPU lol. it's literally "UNDERCLOCKING" lowering voltage.. now the only thing you'd be afraid is "OVERCLOCKING" cuz as it means. It's literally amphing up the voltage on your CPU. u shouldn't be afraid of underclocking everything. Saves Watt per second which is a huge help if ur paying electricity or using solar energy to preserve power. cuz it adds up. If everything breaks just reset the CMOS in your Motherboard lol.
Came from a 3700x to the 5700x3d about two months ago, great upgrade, much much smoother performance in gaming instantly noticeable. Undervolting was a huge benefit for me since i just slapped the good old wraith prism onto the thing. Works just fine for those wondering.
@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder Yes, it's on the setting in bios under "Overclock". not all mobo's have it. so if you see overclock click the offset and put "-x.x" slowly add it up, and yea the max is -30.
This program is great for mobile ryzen, i tried on a Ryzen 5 5675U and set the offset to -25 the battery life went from under 3hours to over 5hours with the same task, it is amazing
I'll do that -30 when it arrives. Thanks Bryan. Update: So -30 curve works. -50 works too but there is performance regression down to default settings performance. cinebench r15 went from 2174 to 2264-2270 peak was 2280. Temps went down from 78.5c peak to 72c peak (Might have to check the mx4 thermal paste application but i was more than generous with the pea size) and power from 93w peak to 81w peak. Also set ppt to 88w and see no loss in performance or clocks. These chips are hot even nhd-15 is ramping up to 1100rpm cool it. I'll have to adjust the fan curve to around 800-900 where it's inaudible cause it's becoming audible lol. Unless it's only when all cores are pegged to 100% and not gaming, then i'll leave it as is.
Glad I found this video. I was contemplating upgrading to a 5700X3D but, the prospects of needing a bigger PSU and the increased temperatures had me on the fence. I don't have an excuse anymore now ;) I'm already undervolting my 3080RTX for better performance compared to running at 100% voltage?
Not on either of mine. Took me a while to figure out what was causing crashing and stutters as everyone at the time was making out like it would be so stable as to barely be even worth testing.
Man i love ASRock my motherboard ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 can support Ryzen 7 5700X3D, even in lower end motherboard ASRock still manage to give support to it
I had one, it's crazy how this mobo can handle some high-end CPUs, mine was with a Ryzen 3900 (65w model). The only reason I replaced this mobo was so I could overclock it.
I just got one from the Newegg deal for $180 and it came with 32gb of ram. I didnt really need it but the deal was too go to pass up. Now I can build a pc with my 5700x and flip it! Can't wait to try out the power of X3d.
just got my 5700x3d from R5 3600 with update bios on asus B550 f gaming used pbo turner to -20mv and used the task schedule but i also use the startup shell cmd and put the shortcut pbo2 turner on the desktop and startup folder and it work. idle 44-40c gaming 60-70c
I watched this after waiting for the release of the 9600x/9700x and reviews where in some cases, they were actually worse than their previous 7000x variants, made me think, damn! What's the point! Might as well go for the current offerings. I was then trying to choose a decent B650M/7700X/DDR5 combo. But who wants to shell out decent $$$ when there's really no need. After seeing this, I was sold on getting either the 5700X3D or the 5800X3D. I was coming from a 5700X on an Aorus Pro V2 mobo, 32GB 3200 CL14 G-Skill RAM and an undervolted 4070-Ti Super, that is just magic, running at about 50° and drawing about 135w in game. (Initially had a 3070 but it developed issues)... The 5700x however was a disappointment and could barely maintain even a stable -20 PBO2 curve. After seeing this, I thought, stuff it. Go the 5800X3D. Well I got it yesterday afternoon and? DAYUMN! I couldn't be happier. After giving it a go without any undervolting, I tried it at -25, all good. Holding steady at -30, no crashes or instability so far. The B550 Aorus Pro V2 worked just fine. The 5800X3D is running about 50° and roughly drawing about 45w 'in game' with no drop in performance... WOW! What a difference over the 5700x. No need to upgrade now, lovin' it! The AM4 platform is still one of the best platforms and still kicking, thanks to these beauties. The fact that they released the 5700X3D when AM4 was deemed EOL, is very cool, guess they had an abundance of binned 5800X3D's ;).
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This tool when set run on startup is very nice, not mess with system like other apps run as "background task". It's just run, show the UI very quickly "Passed parameters...." then disappear :D. (but the effect is still applied, cool) I'm using a ryzen 5700X with b550m mobo, and this thing make it better & cooler. PBO 2.0 120W reduce to 90W without losing any performance. Good tutorial btw. 1 sub 1 like
I need 1.28v for 4.5 to be stable... seems I really lost the silicon lottery.. for 4.65 ghz my cpu needs 1.375v I can boot 4.6ghz at 1.25v but any game or benchmark will crash after 2 minutes, seems unreal that I need to push to 1.375v from just booting to get it stable in games and benches.m..
People with MSI mobos can also use Kombo Strike in BIOS. Works same as PBO Tuner. Kombo Strike 3 means -30mv. Upgraded PC from 2019: Ryzen 2700 > Ryzen 5700X3D RTX 2080Ti > RTX 4080 5700X3D is insane value 😀.
Ive had 970 and i-5 4460 for years. After i took a ryzen 7 1700. Now i have a 6800xt and in waiting to get the 5700x3d in 3 days, cant wait to being able to actually play
Yo brotha, what GPU are you going to pair it with? Also, what feature in the MOBO should I be looking into? I’m planning to have this as my cpu as well. Thank you! (1080p gamer for life)
@@johndotes If you're building a system from scratch you maybe should go the am5 route and get a 7500f, costs less than the 5700x3d, will lose in some tittles, win in others but more importantly you'll be able to upgrade to 9800x3d/9700x3d or whatever in the future instead of being locked in am4 with the 5000 series. 5700x3d is a great option if you already have an older Ryzen system and you want a drop in socket upgrade, but if you're building something new (you said you're getting a motherboard as well)... Not so sure.
Great video tutorial Brian 🥰💪👍🙂↕! It’s great to see undervolting becoming more popular in the past few years. I do a quick n dirty -30 on my Ryzen CPUs and see a great temp saving a slight boost in cpu MHz frequency for literally a few moments in the bios 😇✊💪
nice vid, mine did a 13615 on cinebench R23 with -40mV undervolt with the noctua NHD15 cooler, was stable at -50mV also but changed it back to -40 :) max 62,1 C° and 83,6 watts Edit, just got a score of 13736 on 30mV undervolt
I set a negative offset or -30 in my BIOS and overclocked my RAM from DDR4-3200 to DDR4-3800 (FCLK 1:1) with tightened timings and I gained a considerable amount of performance. I play eSports games like Valorant and I gained an average of 50-70fps in Valorant
If you're really scraping the bottom with a 5700X3D using a 3-pipe Cryorig M9a or similar in a 27C room, you might only get away with a PBO offset of -15 during peaky game loads. Mine crashes on occasion at -20 when building shaders at the beginning of Hogwarts Legacy and when loading in Ark-SE. Fine at no offset and -10. Testing at -15 good so far.
I undervolted mine using an offset (not curve optimizer) in the BIOS, it is still stable at -100 mV offset. HWInfo shows a max voltage of 1.15V. The temperature difference is insane and the CPU now actually boosts to 4.05 GHz during an all core stresstest. Before that it would go down to 3.8 GHz during Prime95.
I strongly disagree with setting a manual offset. You should confirm the clockspeeds with actual benchmark scores. Just because it displays 4.05GHz, doesn't mean it has the performance of 4.05GHz. Typical Ryzen problem.
Without undervolting, my 5700x3d had temperature between 64 and 66°C, which is amazing. With undervolting, I dropped thos temps for about 10°c with even better performance. Brutal
Good shout out, esp the 5700x3d is low price. Been using PBO2 Tuner for ages with my 5800x3d (and other AM4 CPUs). Even if you want to bake them into the bios it still quicker to tune without rebooting, then set the bios (and do a final test). I also use corecycler to test these types of undervolting (it is a bit more finicky as need to edit the ini file). Especially useful if you have an intermittent fail, it was the only thing that spotted this on my 5800x (not the x3d) by leaving it running it overnight (back of the UV on the core by 5 and all good).
Before undervolting RDR2 ran 50-56c in benchmark and now it runs 45-50c. Didnt notice higher FPS but i think i did notice 10+fps in Rust. Probably because RDR2 is GPU heavy and Rust demands more from CPU? Anyway thanks
I didn't think Zen3 (Vermeer) CPU's recognized a Curve Optimizer value below -30 but perhaps the 5700X3D does and/or the latest AGESA V2 1.2.0.C now supports lower CO values?
Just bought a 5700X3D used for $140 and sold the 5700X for $120. PBO2 I just realized is not available on my Gigabyte DS3H even with the latest March 2024 F19 bios. I usually use a negative CO from -10 to -30 range and planned on doing the same on this even though temps are no higher than 75c on C23 with 3950mhz-3975mhz all core during C23.
Hey techyescity, how are you getting 500-600 FPS on CS2? I got the 5700X3D (set the same curves/values) as well and the RX 7900 XT and it ranges from 200-400 FPS. Whenever I get into smokes, the FPS dips. (I just got the GPU yesterday and had an RTX 4060 Ti 8GB prior, where I had the same issue in case you'd assume that this is a GPU matter.)
msi b550, 5700x3d. artic cooler 360mm cores locked at 48.75. getting 16000+ scores on cinebench r32. hasn't got over 70c. no undervolting. so Im hard-pressed to see a reason to undervolt.
Reminds me of the MSI 5000X3D feature, Kombo Strike, found on motherboards like the Unify, Ace, Godlike, etc, except Kombo Strike tops out at -30mv. Apparently, MSI agrees with your sweet spot findings.
I have a question when trying this myself. PBO Tuner applies a -30, then when closing and reopening, it’s back to zero. How do I know it works past being closed? I also don’t seem to be able to see if my task scheduler works, as it brings up the window, everything is greyed out, then it closes?
Decent video but I think you need to reattempt the video and give better information. firstly Ryzen 5000 are limited to -30 offset, this a chipset limitation, only Ryzen 7000 and up can do -50 offsets. Secondly you cannot just simply go for a -30 offset and benchmark the results. You need to do EXTENSIVE testing on this for core stability and crashing. if an offset is unstable, windows more than often doesnt actually crash or BSOD (the core effected does) thats why you need to really go up using -5 intervals from 0 and test each run using something like ycruncher (or my prefered method corecycler) this tests each core in a more "idle" sense (which is where offset core crashing happens) to see if any of the cores crash which indicates an unstable offset applied. You also need to make sure your offset is not too high, even if your CPU can support it (through testing) *you need to keep an eye on your effective clock speed vs "core clock value"* it shows 2 clock values, you need to actually watch the effective clock speeds as too high an offset can lead to lower performance. not all can do -30 on all cores (i got lucky as my 5800x3d could and did several days worth of testing to validate the results)
@@autumn42762 yeah -30 is extremely rare to achieve, i must have got golden silicon on mine but almost all sources ppl barely do -20 stable with the few exceptions doing -25.
You say Ryzen 7k can do max -50 AC! Well my 7700 can do -120 on all cores without crash and at -65 in CB r23 it boost on All Cores 5025-5050mhz and gives me 19270pts at stock 60W but IMC crash! Anything above -30 right away makes Ram unstable With or without EXPO! -30 and everything is stable with tight timings cl26 so am curious wath 9k shows 😏
@@LaserDiKI might be wrong but it's possible values get ignored (for specific chips), I can't remember exactly which one that might've ignored values past-30 or -50 (the mobo may have let value be set but the chip itself would limit it or something. I read it either on AMD, overclock website or Reddit. I'm probably wrong in what I remembered though.
@@LaserDiK -120 shouldnt be possible, -50 is the limit AMD imposed on 7000, same reason Ryzen 5000 is limited too -30 in bios's (thats an actual Vermeer limit) this was a hardware limit. so unless some vendors have removed the limits with recent AGESA patches but ide be surprised if you get anything beyond -50 thats actually stable. you claim -65 in CB, you are not meant to test curve optimizer offsets in high workloads........ these need to be tested in idle/low usage states using ycruncher or corecycler because that is where core crashing primarirly happens. that -65 i can gaurantee is not stable if you bother to do the proper testing. And even IF the offset is stable, you need to ensure your effective clocks match your "actual clocks" in HWInfo readout, because your effective clocks can actually drop lower in value vs the core clock value and this reduces performance.
It may be unstable on some CPU's when undervolting. I tried undervolting a AM4 chip but it's unstable for whatever reason. It doesn't want to undervolt at all. Just saying it could possibly happen.
On an Asus Prime B550, for me doing a negative offset past -10 actually hindered performance on Assetto Corsa Competizione which is the only game I want max fps. Not sure if its because of its utilisation of the L3 cache. As the -10 made little difference I've just gone back to stock. Cooler is Noctua U12S.
When you set up your Task Scheduler, you told it that if there was an instance already running to queue up another instance. I don't understand that setting at all. Would you explain why you did that? Thanks... this is a very helpful video.
with my 5700X3D, i did my adjustments in bios (X570 chipset here), but -25 all cores it freezes the system for 10 seconds once every 3 days or so... i left at -10 now and its fine. but there is no gains in most game, sometimes 1 fps or 2 at most. so, just leave at stock on a A520 motherboard and be happy!
My Ryzen 5700X (without V-Cache) Stepping VMR-B2 is stable with "-20" all cores. I manually set the extra frequency = +200 MHz in Bios, so it's boosting up to 4850 MHz. More undervolting hurts either the performance or stability.
Hello Bryan, could you make the same video again, but this time with the Ryzen 5800X3D? That would be really nice, bro! Please also use the same Snowman cooler and make the same comparisons with the water cooling. My Burst Assassin (120mm fan, 6 heat pipes) air cooler should normally be sufficient for the 5800X3D, but I know that this CPU can get a bit warmer, and in that case, an AIO water cooling solution might also make sense.
I don't have the best silicon. I'm using -14mV on all cores. I crashed at -30 and -25. I also set a max temp threshold at 70°C which is really good to keep the pc quiet. I'm using PBO inside UEFI.
After getting 5700X3D and trying this -30 on curve optimizer (in bios) for weeks. I can conclude that my 5700X3D doesn't like the -30 setting. I keep getting constant random reboots (especially on wake on sleep). My system however is stable on no undervolt or just -10 to -15. We may all have the same chip but the binning process will really differ so we won't have the same results.
for the run on startup thing, won't just making a shortcut of pbo2tuner with the added targer line and put it in the startup folder work the same? sure it won't have the 30 sec delay but wouldn't it essentially be the same thing? EDIT: yep, works the same way. you can also do a .bat file on startup in case making a shortcut in the startup folder doesn't work as some have reported needing UAC for this to work properly on as a startup shortcut.
I'm running a 360 aio on mine. On cinebench multicore with no undervolt I got 13291 @69-70c, -20 13275 @63-64c, -30 13258 @61c. Got a lot colder with undervolting but a little less performance. I'm gonna see if I can undervolt through the bios to actually get better performance.
this looks to be more practical than Ryzen Master, because I can just instantly lower Voltages and then test while I am working on the PC, instead of having to go through the long and tedious RM test procedures, crash, reboot, enter values in Bios, then crash again... I think I should do RM tests anyway but AFTER figuring out my values with PBO2 tuner.
Under volting is ok but it's top end turbo speed can be affect and most cores will tend to settle an average speed. Maybe it could prolong board life but mosfets fail boards catch fire it doesn't quite save the day
I assume if you use this tool and set it up like in the video, you don't need to touch anything in the BIOS (except for things like RAM XMP, CSM, Resizable Bar, etc.), right?
4070ti 5800x in forza 4 i used this settings // Applying curve: -15|-10|-10|-10|-10|-10|-10|-10 // Setting PPT limit to 80 went in forza 4 preset ultra bench (1440P) from 216 to 224 fps (226fps at 142 watt limit) writing -20 in any field results in crashing
My Ryzen 5600 gets unstable even at -5 curve. I even tried setting numbers for individual cores thinking only 1 core is a culprit.. It's a silicon lotery..
If you got your Zen 3 CPU closer to launch, it's more likely to be bad at undervolting. I had an experience with a 2021 5600 and it wasn't stable at -15 no clock offset. But another on of my 5600 from 2024 was able to do +300mhz and -30 all cores stable. Kinda unlucky for those who bought early.
IN CINEBENCH R23 MULTICORE my 5800x3d goes 15500 score. PBO -30 all cores blck 102, -12mv is enaugh to push any game at max fps smothly but feels like 3200Mhz holds back in few games
Definitely upgrading my 3700x to the 5700X3D on my Asus B550. I think when he said since he doesn't use a password (like me), he had to set it to start in 30sec. I know for a fact thats true. I O.C. my CPU literally as soon as I got to the desktop. It made my screen go black, even after restart. I had to take out my CMOS Battery on my MoBo to fix the issue. I was nervous.
Just so you knoe. -40 on the curve optimizer doesnt mean -40mV, its -40 steps on the voltage requested by that particular core. Here an short explanation: "Normally people will tell you best cores do less undervolting and worse cores do more undervolting and while this is true, we cannot forget Curve Optimiser offsets are an order of magnitude and not an actual value. Just because a core does -30 and another -25 it does not mean that -30 > -20 in absolute terms because the core that is at -20 might already be requesting lower VID to begin with. "
Hey guys some comments about minus 30 being the lowest setting possible on am4. Will definitely test again in the morning as I know there was a reasonable difference between 30 and 40. Perhaps the board could be overvolting slighlty by default. Though Will look into it.
Pbo2 tuner is a great program though and no harm will be done with minus settings. So nothing to fear there. All you have to fear is a crash, so just don't have anything unsaved whilst tuning.
If you set it to -40 the PBO2 Tuner acts like it has made it -40 but if you close the program and open it back up again you will see in reality it's only been set to -30. On my 5800X3D i have it set to -30 but on core 0 and core 2 i can only do -21 without it crashing and it's worth mentioning if you change to a new BIOS with a different AGESA version a previously stable undervolt can become unstable.
@@Yolo_Swaggins 5800X3D is limited to -30 i believe. Other standard models should still accept -40 even with PBO2 Tuner.
PBO2 Tuner was also great for 5800X3D owners because initially AMD did not have CO in BIOS. Later when they added it, PBO2 Tuner became largely unnecessary.
Have you tested with OCCT at all??? The 57X3D SKU is clocked lower than the 58X3D and mostly consists of bad 58X3D bins so it's pretty impressive that your system is even stable with -30, let alone -50... I highly doubt that your settings will work with most 57X3D's.
@@kingeling I have tested in OCCT and even had the world records on it. I own the 5800X3D not the 5700X3D. The funny thing with these chips is you can be 100% stable in OCCT but you wont know if it's really stable until you let it idle in windows or use chrome browsers etc. The voltage is lowest in those scenarios and that is when the WHEA can strike if it's not getting enough voltage for the idle states.
Que tipo de refrigeración estás usando??
Gracias, saludos y exitos from spain!
I just got a 5700x3d for like 5hours ago upgraded from a 5600 non-x. PBO2 settings tinkered and now the idle CPU power ranges from 5.4-7W @38-40C while having 5 chrome tabs and discord at the back using a Thermalright Pearless Assasin 120. Paired it with my undervolted 6800xt and runs below 60C @
i did it and it was so nice
before tuning i got 12405 pts (max temp 82c)
after tuning (-30) i got 13622 pts (max temp 72c)
thank you!
That mic sounds superb. Was really refreshing to see you using Task scheduler. It was my best friend years ago, but I have been to lazy to setup for a few years now. !Cheers on another great video.
Cool, thanks!
Been rocking the 5800x3D with a B550 UD AC and 3080 FTW3 12GB for a while now, with a combo of tuned b-die, PBO2 tuner -25 all core, 102 BCLK and a hefty OC on the 3080 I took #1 (for this hw combo) in timespy and gaming is buttery at 1440p, cinebench R23 ~15.4k. Great video showing off that AM4 longevity
We are twinning, same exact setup I have a FTW3 12gb 3080 non ti and 5800x3d. I am rocking a gigabyte auroa master mobo though. I didn't bother with BCLK but I may try a small 1 or 2 mhz bump like you. I had issues with an external drive messing with bclk OC on a previous PC that corrupted my drive so I am hesitant, now I have a nas so it doesn't matter.
@@jonas000111 BCLK up to 102 generally works well on most B550 boards, but if you're on a X570 Master it may not work at all. My chip is pretty good and I'm trying to source a B550 unify-x since it's one of the few boards with a properly functioning clockgen, could probably do 108 and a better IF clock since it's two dimm.
@@SyndicatesFollower Thanks for the heads up.
Undervolt really makes a huge difference. My Ryzen 5 5600 reaches 80c in heavy gaming, now it barely reaches 60C and barely reaches 60watts thanks to Tech YES City for teaching me how to undervolt.
80c for heavy gaming on ryzen cpu if perfectly normal. those cpu are made for that
@@TheTwiix hell nah. I used to have a R5 3600, used to get over 80c while gaming. Bought a nice cooler from cooler masters, a great thermal paste, and it stopped going up to over 45c on cyberpunk ( ultra )
@krosis8058 all zen3-4 are made to reach high temps with no problem. You can do some research and confrim. Of course you dont need to reach those temps
@@TheTwiix The problem is, the clockspeed drops with higher temps. By keeping it cooler you get more performance.
@@krosis8058 got a 3600 too, replacing thermal paste every year or so helps sooo much.
The task scheduler method is a huge frickin help. Thanks
TYSM! I picked my 5700X3D from amazon for $199 and upgraded from a 5600x. Massive uplifts , much cooler, 1%lows, and my pc is buttery smooth now. 6950XT is a beastly combo with this chip. You are doing GODS WORK!
Now I can watch Tech YES City even faster!
WOW! This. Is. Insane.!!!! It just dropped 10 C and upped the clock 200MHz on max load !!!! THANK YOU
Thank you TYC a lot for this video instruction, helped me a lot,
my 5700x3d on -30 mV is stable in Cinebech r23, but unstable in OCCT extreme cpu test and in Prime95 maximum power heat test unstable too. But after I set up 5700x3d on -25mV , are all this test programms stable :). Cinebench R23 multicore result is 13700 points, and power CPU consumption 90Watts. Motherboard is Gigabyte B450 aorus and cooler Endorfy Fera 5. Before undervolting I was afraid to do test with OCCT and Prime95, because the temperatures are rising over 90 Celsius in this tests so I stoped this tests very quickly. Now after undervolting to -25 mV, are temperatures under 90 Celsius , with 100% load and long stable. Hurrra :-)
I am satisfied with this procesor for this money :-). GOOOD
Getting an average of 13628 (3 runs) in CBR23 at -30mV air-cooled. Absolutely pleased.
This improved a lot my temps and performance. I'm using a ab350m-ds3h v2, a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 V2, with the 5700X 3D. The average temp without undervolting while gaming is around 70°C, but with undervolt of 30mv, temperatures decreased 5 to 10 °C. Cinebench went from 12300 to 13100 points. CPU-Z went from 5560 to 5800 points. I thank you a lot for this tip!
May I ask what temps you have in your room?
I have the same cooler (actually the V1, but it should have the same performance), and I was planning to upgrade to a 5700x3d in the next weeks.
The problem is that it's summer where I live and my room usually sits around 30 C°, so I'm not sure if my current setup is gonna be enough.
@@costantinonieddu9388 It fluctuates between 16 and 25 Celsius this season. I live in Brasil by the way
@@arthurzampirolli Thanks, I'll try with the Gammax and see, I would prefer to keep it if possible.
@@costantinonieddu9388 I think a thing that works really well for me is that i have a 120mm fan from delta(can reach about 3200RPM) on the exhaust of the case. This fan is alone, i don't have any intake fans.
@@arthurzampirolli Thanks for the help, I upgraded and used the Arctic MX2 thermal paste (I was using the MX 4 before), tried a cinebench 2024 run and the 5700x3d did not go over 80 °C, same as the 3600 I was using.
Applying an undervolt of -30 mv on all cores also reduced the max temperatures of 5 °C, so I guess I'm fine :)
I decided to switch to the 5700x3d from the 5800x3d and I'm satisfied with the decision. I opted for the downgrade because my 5800x3d was unstable, and Microcenter had no replacements available. With that in mind, the video was quite helpful; it helped me save money while achieving similar performance.
Given the state of the CPU market, I wouldn't touch my CPU OC without a video like this. Hopefully that changes in the future. Thanks Brian.
underclocking has literally zero chance of damaging your CPU lol. it's literally "UNDERCLOCKING" lowering voltage.. now the only thing you'd be afraid is "OVERCLOCKING" cuz as it means. It's literally amphing up the voltage on your CPU.
u shouldn't be afraid of underclocking everything. Saves Watt per second which is a huge help if ur paying electricity or using solar energy to preserve power. cuz it adds up. If everything breaks just reset the CMOS in your Motherboard lol.
Just upgraded from a 1600 to this bad boy :D , ty am4!
me to, it's a beast =)
Interesting video. 5700X3D great budget banger build.
Great work as always. Just installed my 5700x3d last week and now its temps are down from 91 to 77 during Cinebench
Dropped from around 75C to about 67C with the 30mv undervolt on my 5700X3D on full load, definitely worth doing this.
Came from a 3700x to the 5700x3d about two months ago, great upgrade, much much smoother performance in gaming instantly noticeable. Undervolting was a huge benefit for me since i just slapped the good old wraith prism onto the thing. Works just fine for those wondering.
Thanks. This was the information that i was looking for. haha
How much did your rpm and temperature go down?
i made the exact same upgrade with the trusty old wraith prism, still cant belive that beauty came as stock cooler
I upgraded from a 2700x today
eft from 40-50fps to 130-150 🤣
@ItachiUchiha-yc9nv congrats on the upgrade
Cool video showing how to use that program, my 5800x3d is already undervolted from my bios, but thats a very handy program to tell people about. 😊
so there is a way to apply all of that in the bios once im satisfied with the numbers right?
@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder no, bios actually didn't allow you to go under - 30. It's a limit.
@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder Yes, it's on the setting in bios under "Overclock". not all mobo's have it. so if you see overclock click the offset and put "-x.x" slowly add it up, and yea the max is -30.
This program is great for mobile ryzen, i tried on a Ryzen 5 5675U and set the offset to -25 the battery life went from under 3hours to over 5hours with the same task, it is amazing
Another "Tech Yes Under Volt⚡️" tip 🎉
Love your under-volting videos. Today's chips are too power hungry by default. Running a cool undervolted Alderlake thanks to your content.
I'll do that -30 when it arrives. Thanks Bryan.
Update: So -30 curve works. -50 works too but there is performance regression down to default settings performance. cinebench r15 went from 2174 to 2264-2270 peak was 2280. Temps went down from 78.5c peak to 72c peak (Might have to check the mx4 thermal paste application but i was more than generous with the pea size) and power from 93w peak to 81w peak. Also set ppt to 88w and see no loss in performance or clocks. These chips are hot even nhd-15 is ramping up to 1100rpm cool it. I'll have to adjust the fan curve to around 800-900 where it's inaudible cause it's becoming audible lol. Unless it's only when all cores are pegged to 100% and not gaming, then i'll leave it as is.
Glad I found this video. I was contemplating upgrading to a 5700X3D but, the prospects of needing a bigger PSU and the increased temperatures had me on the fence. I don't have an excuse anymore now ;) I'm already undervolting my 3080RTX for better performance compared to running at 100% voltage?
Straight -30 has been solid on my 5800X3D for the past 2 years.
Same here. Got lucky i suppose.
Not on either of mine. Took me a while to figure out what was causing crashing and stutters as everyone at the time was making out like it would be so stable as to barely be even worth testing.
I'm using -30 on my 5800x for months now no problem
I used to use -30 on mine but it was causing crashes in darktide so i'm at -20 now and chillin.
Man i love ASRock my motherboard ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 can support Ryzen 7 5700X3D, even in lower end motherboard ASRock still manage to give support to it
I had one, it's crazy how this mobo can handle some high-end CPUs, mine was with a Ryzen 3900 (65w model). The only reason I replaced this mobo was so I could overclock it.
I applied a -30 in the bios and it does seem to have helped. Very cool thanks. My first undervolt.
Got it all the way to -45 and see no problems with OCCT.
VRM temps on B450 DS3H drop almost 20 degrees. Nice
Thanks for the video!
very nice, but I would be interested if you would do Prime95 heat maximum test without errors, 5minuts are enough. thank you
I just got one from the Newegg deal for $180 and it came with 32gb of ram. I didnt really need it but the deal was too go to pass up. Now I can build a pc with my 5700x and flip it! Can't wait to try out the power of X3d.
Wow what a deal. The ram itself probably costs 100 alone so the cpu is 80 bucks. That's nuts. Got my 5700x3d for 185 eur which is a steal in eu.
How is it
just got my 5700x3d from R5 3600 with update bios on asus B550 f gaming used pbo turner to -20mv and used the task schedule but i also use the startup shell cmd and put the shortcut pbo2 turner on the desktop and startup folder and it work. idle 44-40c gaming 60-70c
I watched this after waiting for the release of the 9600x/9700x and reviews where in some cases, they were actually worse than their previous 7000x variants, made me think, damn! What's the point! Might as well go for the current offerings. I was then trying to choose a decent B650M/7700X/DDR5 combo. But who wants to shell out decent $$$ when there's really no need.
After seeing this, I was sold on getting either the 5700X3D or the 5800X3D. I was coming from a 5700X on an Aorus Pro V2 mobo, 32GB 3200 CL14 G-Skill RAM and an undervolted 4070-Ti Super, that is just magic, running at about 50° and drawing about 135w in game. (Initially had a 3070 but it developed issues)... The 5700x however was a disappointment and could barely maintain even a stable -20 PBO2 curve. After seeing this, I thought, stuff it. Go the 5800X3D.
Well I got it yesterday afternoon and? DAYUMN! I couldn't be happier. After giving it a go without any undervolting, I tried it at -25, all good. Holding steady at -30, no crashes or instability so far. The B550 Aorus Pro V2 worked just fine. The 5800X3D is running about 50° and roughly drawing about 45w 'in game' with no drop in performance... WOW! What a difference over the 5700x. No need to upgrade now, lovin' it! The AM4 platform is still one of the best platforms and still kicking, thanks to these beauties. The fact that they released the 5700X3D when AM4 was deemed EOL, is very cool, guess they had an abundance of binned 5800X3D's ;).
This tool when set run on startup is very nice, not mess with system like other apps run as "background task". It's just run, show the UI very quickly "Passed parameters...." then disappear :D. (but the effect is still applied, cool)
I'm using a ryzen 5700X with b550m mobo, and this thing make it better & cooler. PBO 2.0 120W reduce to 90W without losing any performance.
Good tutorial btw. 1 sub 1 like
Yep, we have a few 5800x cpus.
All capped at 4.65 ghz @ 1.22 v
Never get hot and have the highest cbr23 scores. Idles 31 to 34 c.
Max temp 68c.
I need 1.28v for 4.5 to be stable... seems I really lost the silicon lottery.. for 4.65 ghz my cpu needs 1.375v
I can boot 4.6ghz at 1.25v but any game or benchmark will crash after 2 minutes, seems unreal that I need to push to 1.375v from just booting to get it stable in games and benches.m..
People with MSI mobos can also use Kombo Strike in BIOS. Works same as PBO Tuner. Kombo Strike 3 means -30mv.
Upgraded PC from 2019:
Ryzen 2700 > Ryzen 5700X3D
RTX 2080Ti > RTX 4080
5700X3D is insane value 😀.
Bro thanks! I was wondering what the heck is kombo strike,its very similar to fighting game move
Im considering upgrading my 3600 and rx 5600xt Worth? Looking at the 5700x3d with a rx 7700? How long could this upgrade run cs2 at over 240 fps?
Ive had 970 and i-5 4460 for years. After i took a ryzen 7 1700.
Now i have a 6800xt and in waiting to get the 5700x3d in 3 days, cant wait to being able to actually play
@@vidicisthegoat5444 That should last for a while
Where can I see the kombo strike, I have an older msi mobo b450 tomahawk non max
Man you are awesome ! I cant wait to get my 5700x3d in the mail
Yo brotha, what GPU are you going to pair it with? Also, what feature in the MOBO should I be looking into? I’m planning to have this as my cpu as well. Thank you! (1080p gamer for life)
@@johndotes If you're building a system from scratch you maybe should go the am5 route and get a 7500f, costs less than the 5700x3d, will lose in some tittles, win in others but more importantly you'll be able to upgrade to 9800x3d/9700x3d or whatever in the future instead of being locked in am4 with the 5000 series. 5700x3d is a great option if you already have an older Ryzen system and you want a drop in socket upgrade, but if you're building something new (you said you're getting a motherboard as well)... Not so sure.
@@superior96 Hey, thanks for taking the time. I did get the 7500f.. I've had the build for almost a week now, no regrets :)
@@johndotes Yeah I have it with my RX 6900xt. I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3600 that my bother gave me as place holder CPU
I just upgraded from 5600x GPU:3060 ti to 5700x3d with same gpu. Its about 20% to 30% boost all around the board in games (With no DLSS or FSR)
i have a 3700 and a 2080super and have been debating getting a 5700 X3D for a while
@@Kagemyth it is worth. 2080 and 3060 ti both has almost the same performance. Also %1 and %0.1 dips are no longer below 50-60 FPS
totally get it 5700x3d is a beast@@Kagemyth
went from ryzen 5500 to 5600x3D with a 3060ti, 1 percent lows shot up like 10-20 frames, and my max fps is generally way better ! good call
Went from ryzen 7 1700x with 1080 to 5700x3d with 1080.
Plus 400 fps on cs2 with low settings. Incredible cpu.
Great video tutorial Brian 🥰💪👍🙂↕!
It’s great to see undervolting becoming more popular in the past few years. I do a quick n dirty -30 on my Ryzen CPUs and see a great temp saving a slight boost in cpu MHz frequency for literally a few moments in the bios 😇✊💪
nice vid, mine did a 13615 on cinebench R23 with -40mV undervolt with the noctua NHD15 cooler, was stable at -50mV also but changed it back to -40 :) max 62,1 C° and 83,6 watts
Edit, just got a score of 13736 on 30mV undervolt
I set a negative offset or -30 in my BIOS and overclocked my RAM from DDR4-3200 to DDR4-3800 (FCLK 1:1) with tightened timings and I gained a considerable amount of performance. I play eSports games like Valorant and I gained an average of 50-70fps in Valorant
Brooo i just bought my 5700x3d and i love playing valorant, how many fps do u get?
Pretty sure most of the diff is from the cpu undervolting, there isn’t that much diff in 3200 or 3800 ram, not even noticeable in fps
nice info, thanks as always!
Can't wait to try this with my 5600x3d
Ps. Sonic music at the end is the shit. I love Sonic
What did you end up setting it to? Did you notice any change? I have the same CPU with Asus Tuf X570 MB
Seen this before, thank you for covering it ^^
Long time not seen, welcome back!
If you're really scraping the bottom with a 5700X3D using a 3-pipe Cryorig M9a or similar in a 27C room, you might only get away with a PBO offset of -15 during peaky game loads. Mine crashes on occasion at -20 when building shaders at the beginning of Hogwarts Legacy and when loading in Ark-SE. Fine at no offset and -10. Testing at -15 good so far.
I undervolted mine using an offset (not curve optimizer) in the BIOS, it is still stable at -100 mV offset. HWInfo shows a max voltage of 1.15V. The temperature difference is insane and the CPU now actually boosts to 4.05 GHz during an all core stresstest. Before that it would go down to 3.8 GHz during Prime95.
I strongly disagree with setting a manual offset. You should confirm the clockspeeds with actual benchmark scores. Just because it displays 4.05GHz, doesn't mean it has the performance of 4.05GHz. Typical Ryzen problem.
Without undervolting, my 5700x3d had temperature between 64 and 66°C, which is amazing. With undervolting, I dropped thos temps for about 10°c with even better performance. Brutal
Good shout out, esp the 5700x3d is low price.
Been using PBO2 Tuner for ages with my 5800x3d (and other AM4 CPUs). Even if you want to bake them into the bios it still quicker to tune without rebooting, then set the bios (and do a final test).
I also use corecycler to test these types of undervolting (it is a bit more finicky as need to edit the ini file). Especially useful if you have an intermittent fail, it was the only thing that spotted this on my 5800x (not the x3d) by leaving it running it overnight (back of the UV on the core by 5 and all good).
Before undervolting RDR2 ran 50-56c in benchmark and now it runs 45-50c. Didnt notice higher FPS but i think i did notice 10+fps in Rust. Probably because RDR2 is GPU heavy and Rust demands more from CPU? Anyway thanks
I didn't think Zen3 (Vermeer) CPU's recognized a Curve Optimizer value below -30 but perhaps the 5700X3D does and/or the latest AGESA V2 1.2.0.C now supports lower CO values?
they dont, AMD hasnt removed this limitation as of yet
Just bought a 5700X3D used for $140 and sold the 5700X for $120. PBO2 I just realized is not available on my Gigabyte DS3H even with the latest March 2024 F19 bios. I usually use a negative CO from -10 to -30 range and planned on doing the same on this even though temps are no higher than 75c on C23 with 3950mhz-3975mhz all core during C23.
Thank you Christopher Walken my CPU is running much cooler now ❤
Set different -30 or less depending on testing for stability. Go down -5 lower for each core until stable.
Much thanks! I find get value in this video!
Whats the difference between undervolting by this tool and i do curved optimazion at bios? Sorry My bad English and thx for Video.
Hey techyescity, how are you getting 500-600 FPS on CS2? I got the 5700X3D (set the same curves/values) as well and the RX 7900 XT and it ranges from 200-400 FPS. Whenever I get into smokes, the FPS dips. (I just got the GPU yesterday and had an RTX 4060 Ti 8GB prior, where I had the same issue in case you'd assume that this is a GPU matter.)
Thank you so much for the explanation
fun fact if you own a steamdeck LCD or OLED you can undervolt the CPU/GPU/SOC in the bios for lower temp, noise and longer battery life.
msi b550, 5700x3d. artic cooler 360mm cores locked at 48.75. getting 16000+ scores on cinebench r32. hasn't got over 70c. no undervolting. so Im hard-pressed to see a reason to undervolt.
Reminds me of the MSI 5000X3D feature, Kombo Strike, found on motherboards like the Unify, Ace, Godlike, etc, except Kombo Strike tops out at -30mv. Apparently, MSI agrees with your sweet spot findings.
Hey great video but I don't want another program running in the background. Do you also have a tutorial on how to do this through your bios?
Undervolting tutorials by the YES man extracting that value
You can never play enough Pokémon with your son. All good here
The 5800x are on x570 unify boards.
Pbo, 200 over boost. Curv is -5 -5 for the two fastest cores and -18 on the rest.
Technically it doesn't undervolt, it just move the necessary voltage for the clock, kinda
I have a question when trying this myself. PBO Tuner applies a -30, then when closing and reopening, it’s back to zero. How do I know it works past being closed? I also don’t seem to be able to see if my task scheduler works, as it brings up the window, everything is greyed out, then it closes?
Decent video but I think you need to reattempt the video and give better information. firstly Ryzen 5000 are limited to -30 offset, this a chipset limitation, only Ryzen 7000 and up can do -50 offsets. Secondly you cannot just simply go for a -30 offset and benchmark the results.
You need to do EXTENSIVE testing on this for core stability and crashing. if an offset is unstable, windows more than often doesnt actually crash or BSOD (the core effected does) thats why you need to really go up using -5 intervals from 0 and test each run using something like ycruncher (or my prefered method corecycler) this tests each core in a more "idle" sense (which is where offset core crashing happens) to see if any of the cores crash which indicates an unstable offset applied.
You also need to make sure your offset is not too high, even if your CPU can support it (through testing) *you need to keep an eye on your effective clock speed vs "core clock value"* it shows 2 clock values, you need to actually watch the effective clock speeds as too high an offset can lead to lower performance. not all can do -30 on all cores (i got lucky as my 5800x3d could and did several days worth of testing to validate the results)
yeah -30 can appear stable at first but in my case it would sometimes just reboot randomly during gaming
@@autumn42762 yeah -30 is extremely rare to achieve, i must have got golden silicon on mine but almost all sources ppl barely do -20 stable with the few exceptions doing -25.
You say Ryzen 7k can do max -50 AC! Well my 7700 can do -120 on all cores without crash and at -65 in CB r23 it boost on All Cores 5025-5050mhz and gives me 19270pts at stock 60W but IMC crash! Anything above -30 right away makes Ram unstable With or without EXPO! -30 and everything is stable with tight timings cl26 so am curious wath 9k shows 😏
@@LaserDiKI might be wrong but it's possible values get ignored (for specific chips), I can't remember exactly which one that might've ignored values past-30 or -50 (the mobo may have let value be set but the chip itself would limit it or something. I read it either on AMD, overclock website or Reddit. I'm probably wrong in what I remembered though.
@@LaserDiK -120 shouldnt be possible, -50 is the limit AMD imposed on 7000, same reason Ryzen 5000 is limited too -30 in bios's (thats an actual Vermeer limit) this was a hardware limit. so unless some vendors have removed the limits with recent AGESA patches but ide be surprised if you get anything beyond -50 thats actually stable.
you claim -65 in CB, you are not meant to test curve optimizer offsets in high workloads........ these need to be tested in idle/low usage states using ycruncher or corecycler because that is where core crashing primarirly happens. that -65 i can gaurantee is not stable if you bother to do the proper testing.
And even IF the offset is stable, you need to ensure your effective clocks match your "actual clocks" in HWInfo readout, because your effective clocks can actually drop lower in value vs the core clock value and this reduces performance.
Thank mr. TechYESCity 🤘
On my 7800X3D safe curve is -35 on AIO and -30 on one tower air cooler. With tight OC RAM of course.
It may be unstable on some CPU's when undervolting. I tried undervolting a AM4 chip but it's unstable for whatever reason. It doesn't want to undervolt at all. Just saying it could possibly happen.
Good Video :) How can I checkt out curve is setting after startup?
7800x3d tuning will be uplift performance with low power draw and temp??
On an Asus Prime B550, for me doing a negative offset past -10 actually hindered performance on Assetto Corsa Competizione which is the only game I want max fps. Not sure if its because of its utilisation of the L3 cache. As the -10 made little difference I've just gone back to stock. Cooler is Noctua U12S.
do you reccomend to enable PBO on bios or not? 5700x3d is my cpu
When you set up your Task Scheduler, you told it that if there was an instance already running to queue up another instance. I don't understand that setting at all.
Would you explain why you did that?
Thanks... this is a very helpful video.
with my 5700X3D, i did my adjustments in bios (X570 chipset here), but -25 all cores it freezes the system for 10 seconds once every 3 days or so... i left at -10 now and its fine. but there is no gains in most game, sometimes 1 fps or 2 at most. so, just leave at stock on a A520 motherboard and be happy!
its about the temps, not the fps gains primarily
My Ryzen 5700X (without V-Cache) Stepping VMR-B2 is stable with "-20" all cores. I manually set the extra frequency = +200 MHz in Bios, so it's boosting up to 4850 MHz. More undervolting hurts either the performance or stability.
Hello Bryan, could you make the same video again, but this time with the Ryzen 5800X3D? That would be really nice, bro! Please also use the same Snowman cooler and make the same comparisons with the water cooling. My Burst Assassin (120mm fan, 6 heat pipes) air cooler should normally be sufficient for the 5800X3D, but I know that this CPU can get a bit warmer, and in that case, an AIO water cooling solution might also make sense.
AIO does not instantly mean better :) you'll be fine.
I don't have the best silicon. I'm using -14mV on all cores. I crashed at -30 and -25.
I also set a max temp threshold at 70°C which is really good to keep the pc quiet.
I'm using PBO inside UEFI.
Why is my MaxBoost only at 3400mhz? Do i need to OC my processor? I just got it today.
After getting 5700X3D and trying this -30 on curve optimizer (in bios) for weeks. I can conclude that my 5700X3D doesn't like the -30 setting. I keep getting constant random reboots (especially on wake on sleep). My system however is stable on no undervolt or just -10 to -15.
We may all have the same chip but the binning process will really differ so we won't have the same results.
for the run on startup thing, won't just making a shortcut of pbo2tuner with the added targer line and put it in the startup folder work the same? sure it won't have the 30 sec delay but wouldn't it essentially be the same thing?
EDIT: yep, works the same way. you can also do a .bat file on startup in case making a shortcut in the startup folder doesn't work as some have reported needing UAC for this to work properly on as a startup shortcut.
I'm running a 360 aio on mine. On cinebench multicore with no undervolt I got 13291 @69-70c, -20 13275 @63-64c, -30 13258 @61c. Got a lot colder with undervolting but a little less performance. I'm gonna see if I can undervolt through the bios to actually get better performance.
this looks to be more practical than Ryzen Master, because I can just instantly lower Voltages and then test while I am working on the PC, instead of having to go through the long and tedious RM test procedures, crash, reboot, enter values in Bios, then crash again... I think I should do RM tests anyway but AFTER figuring out my values with PBO2 tuner.
Under volting is ok but it's top end turbo speed can be affect and most cores will tend to settle an average speed.
Maybe it could prolong board life but mosfets fail boards catch fire it doesn't quite save the day
I assume if you use this tool and set it up like in the video, you don't need to touch anything in the BIOS (except for things like RAM XMP, CSM, Resizable Bar, etc.), right?
do you recommend getting this cpu for a msi x470 gaming pro max motherboard i have for my ryzen 3600?
great video bro
Recommended settings for PPT, TDC, EDC?
Would like to know for bios settings to further fine tune the undervolt
Whatever motherboard can do.
PBO limits = Motherboard
Any motherboard? Doesn't seems to work to me since my motherboard doesn't support Overclocking. No change in temps.
4070ti 5800x in forza 4
i used this settings
// Applying curve: -15|-10|-10|-10|-10|-10|-10|-10
// Setting PPT limit to 80
went in forza 4 preset ultra bench (1440P) from 216 to 224 fps (226fps at 142 watt limit)
writing -20 in any field results in crashing
I'm using the curve optimization setting to all cores and optimizer magnitude negative 26. The temps are lower.
Brain love the sf 2 music should use it more haaaarrdoooken!! thank you great video just saved me and my fps is loads better thank you so much
My Ryzen 5600 gets unstable even at -5 curve. I even tried setting numbers for individual cores thinking only 1 core is a culprit.. It's a silicon lotery..
X3D chips are much better binned than the non-X3D ones.
You dont neednto undervolt 5600 its already low powered
@@zilverman7820I still PBO -30 on my 5600, clock speed went up 150 to 200mhz. It’s no much difference, but it’s free and stable for me, why not?
If you got your Zen 3 CPU closer to launch, it's more likely to be bad at undervolting. I had an experience with a 2021 5600 and it wasn't stable at -15 no clock offset. But another on of my 5600 from 2024 was able to do +300mhz and -30 all cores stable. Kinda unlucky for those who bought early.
The BIOS updates also change things.
My 5950X when I got it could do -29 CO, but a few BIOS updates later and it can only do -20 CO now.
I know someone's 5700x3d only have 95w ppt, 75a tdc, and 90a edc. Those values are way lower than the other 5700x3d's I know about. Is that normal?
IN CINEBENCH R23 MULTICORE my 5800x3d goes 15500 score.
PBO -30 all cores blck 102, -12mv is enaugh to push any game at max fps smothly but feels like 3200Mhz holds back in few games
Definitely upgrading my 3700x to the 5700X3D on my Asus B550.
I think when he said since he doesn't use a password (like me), he had to set it to start in 30sec. I know for a fact thats true. I O.C. my CPU literally as soon as I got to the desktop. It made my screen go black, even after restart. I had to take out my CMOS Battery on my MoBo to fix the issue. I was nervous.
Just so you knoe. -40 on the curve optimizer doesnt mean -40mV, its -40 steps on the voltage requested by that particular core. Here an short explanation:
"Normally people will tell you best cores do less undervolting and worse cores do more undervolting and while this is true, we cannot forget Curve Optimiser offsets are an order of magnitude and not an actual value. Just because a core does -30 and another -25 it does not mean that -30 > -20 in absolute terms because the core that is at -20 might already be requesting lower VID to begin with. "
What about universal x86 Tuning utility?