Being a former and retired distributor for Elan Marine and the Group Benetau and being an owner of an Elan Impression 434, I can tell you the main differences. It´s not the Equipment, because all yards are using Selden and Harken products. The main difference lays in the bottom of the boat, something you cannot see on boatshows: at Elan the inner structure is fix laminated with the hull, giving the boat an extreme stability at sea and at groundings. In order to reduce costs (laminating is much more expensive) most yards use a glue for joining and give it a single layer in order to present a laminated look. As long as the boat is swimming in its element there is practically no difference, but when exposed to strong forces, Elan will stand through. The problem with Elan: a weak dealership. Beneteau is bigger, but that does not mean their boats are better.
I owned and captained an Elan i40 through the Atlantic only once. But my limited experience is also inline, why this brand is the dominating one on the largest sailing charter market on planet. These are brilliant cruising vessels, but not for everyone. Like those Americans buying a Catalina for motoring at the coastline and enjoying their leather chair while anchoring, paying probably a $M+. Meanwhile, the rest of the world, rather pays $350k list price for this in Europe. Or less since this model is out of production already, replaced by the new I45. The Impression line is a fantastic value.
When looking at the Elan yacht it is built in a country whit by european standards low wages. But unlike other places of that kind they have a long tradition of building yachts. But it is primarily built for the Adriatic , Greece and families who live within train distance and want to enjoy there vacations on the water. So it is built to be cheap and still comply with the EU certification. For those of you americans who have no idea of sailing the Adriatic a strong endgin is a vital part if the safety equipment.
@@Franco.Zanchi naturally you can sail it around the world I was talking about what it is primarily designed for. Most yachts out there are primarily designed for a specific scenario but a skilled sailor can take them anywhere.
No, I would not punt on one (new}. First, that cheap bow rail verges on dangerous for a 43.. It's so obvious & easy to fix it just makes me wonder. Yes, she has independent, but still twin rudders (not a fan). Last, how is "off the lot" depreciation vs the French boats? Maybe a 3yo Elan at a discount? Thanks Tim.⚓
Built by experts interior fit out by ikea. Don’t like twin rudders and there is no need for twin helms. Please check out the Sirius there’s a boat you can get excited about
Being a former and retired distributor for Elan Marine and the Group Benetau and being an owner of an Elan Impression 434, I can tell you the main differences. It´s not the Equipment, because all yards are using Selden and Harken products. The main difference lays in the bottom of the boat, something you cannot see on boatshows: at Elan the inner structure is fix laminated with the hull, giving the boat an extreme stability at sea and at groundings. In order to reduce costs (laminating is much more expensive) most yards use a glue for joining and give it a single layer in order to present a laminated look. As long as the boat is swimming in its element there is practically no difference, but when exposed to strong forces, Elan will stand through. The problem with Elan: a weak dealership. Beneteau is bigger, but that does not mean their boats are better.
Great boat. It’s perfect for the Mediterranean cruiser, which I believe to be the target audience.
I like it, for a live aboard Caribbean boat, looks ideal.
Thanks for sharing, Tim. See you next time.😊
I owned and captained an Elan i40 through the Atlantic only once. But my limited experience is also inline, why this brand is the dominating one on the largest sailing charter market on planet.
These are brilliant cruising vessels, but not for everyone.
Like those Americans buying a Catalina for motoring at the coastline and enjoying their leather chair while anchoring, paying probably a $M+. Meanwhile, the rest of the world, rather pays $350k list price for this in Europe. Or less since this model is out of production already, replaced by the new I45.
The Impression line is a fantastic value.
I'd take the Outbound sitting on the port side (or the Tartan off the starboard) 😀
What is the boat just to port of this Elan?
When looking at the Elan yacht it is built in a country whit by european standards low wages. But unlike other places of that kind they have a long tradition of building yachts. But it is primarily built for the Adriatic , Greece and families who live within train distance and want to enjoy there vacations on the water. So it is built to be cheap and still comply with the EU certification. For those of you americans who have no idea of sailing the Adriatic a strong endgin is a vital part if the safety equipment.
I've sailed an old 36 to Iceland in winter and 431 to Carribbean across Atlantic so they are built to go a bit further than Adriatic and Ionian sea.
@@Franco.Zanchi naturally you can sail it around the world I was talking about what it is primarily designed for. Most yachts out there are primarily designed for a specific scenario but a skilled sailor can take them anywhere.
No, I would not punt on one (new}. First, that cheap bow rail verges on dangerous for a 43.. It's so obvious & easy to fix it just makes me wonder. Yes, she has independent, but still twin rudders (not a fan). Last, how is "off the lot" depreciation vs the French boats? Maybe a 3yo Elan at a discount? Thanks Tim.⚓
Rather IKEA-style veneer woodwork below?
Signing a contract for a Catalina while sitting on the Elan should tell you something.
My thoughts exactly
Just means the Elan wasn’t the boat for their needs.. crumby logic
Looks very nice on the outside.. not a fan of the rustic interior…. Also expected a lot more room on the saloon from a newer and wider 43’ boat..
Sign on boat had $750,000 discounted to $600,000, seems really pricey for a 43’ monohull.
I think that the use of cored hull is a bit of a letdown for me.
Another floating condo. Good for gunk holing in protected waters. I'm sure it will find a wide following but God forbid they go to sea.
Built by experts interior fit out by ikea. Don’t like twin rudders and there is no need for twin helms. Please check out the Sirius there’s a boat you can get excited about
I liked the rustic feel inside.
YEP NOPE. Can't stand the ikea look. Just me. 😮
Cruising? Nah.
As an owner of an Elan 434 I can tell you that it is a fantastic cruiser.