In this video I demonstrate my new fastest way of building chord progressions in Logic Pro 11 using the drag and drop chord track feature. No MIDI controller required! Enjoy! For mixing/mastering work, contact me at my website ➛ carneymediagroup.com Follow MusicTechHelpGuy on Instagram ➛ instagram.com/musictechhelpguy Check out my ad-free Logic Pro courses here ➛ logicproguide.com Chapters: 0:00 Overview 2:16 Getting Started 4:19 Intro 12:34 Verse 15:04 Pre-chorus 19:26 Chorus 22:58 Wrap-Up
You do such a great job of sharing useful information. You focus on the product (not yourself like most on YT) and are a really great communicator. Just wanted to let you know, you’re greatly appreciated.
I like the way you walk us through your thinking in this format of presentation. Thanks for all your insights and well rounded study of music as a creative outlet… so valuable!
Man I so appreciate this video, as well as your others. There are 3-4 Logic educators I like, and you're at the very top. I just explored your tips here on a new song and it was so much fun, not to mention workable. Thanks Josh!
Hey Josh, I liked the flow of tutorial. If you have a well prepared plan for your video, I don’t think you need to kill yourself editing. I thought this was natural and the message and delivery were clear and to the point. Thanks as always.
Great video. Love all your vids. As far as the difference between your more edited videos and this being less edited, it was fine and had a good continuity. The format served the topic well in that we get a glimpse into your composers mind if that makes any sense. Would love to see a series on music theory. Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to your next tutorial.
7:05 Literally sitting here with a jaw dropped. Wizard-magician black magic. This is AMAZING! I used to create a label track for chords which was kind of cumbersome.
I really liked this new format, maybe not for CONTENT training like in your overall Logic Pro series which I think is better using your well-produced and very didactic format. But to see how you APPLY the content is really really helpful. I would really love to see you continue developing this song. What would be your next steps in your process? For example, would you next think about what genre you wanted to use? Would you then add an appropriate baseline based on that genre? And how would you think about Melody, and what process would you use to add it? Frankly would be helpful for you to go all the way to mixing and then even mastering the final track. Those are some of my ideas…
Hi, for intros in Logic you can use a little hide option, the little arrow/triangle in the bar rule, between bar 1 and track heads, and while click it and slide it to the left appears negative bars. Then bar 1 will be always bar 1 in your song. Never see it this topic before in any youtube video about Logic, and will be a game changer about writing intros. Thanks for the content of your videos!
Personally I really enjoyed this format … I like seeing your whole process rather than a distilled version. It’s preferable for me because I also get to see some of your editing techniques that you might otherwise edit out. As for the chord track, it is a great start from Apple and I’m sure they will add more features. I really want it to allow me to play in a chord progression and analyse it for me.
This is terrific. I'm just learning Logic Pro and just recently discovered Unison MIDI chord pack (saw an older video of yours). The Logic chord track is very cool though unlike Unison it seems you can't drag and drop example chord progressions right into the track.
A friend suggested I check out your channel and I'm glad he did. The format was perfect and I don't think you have to go crazy editing it. You were clear with instructions on what you were doing and how you were doing it. I'm brand new to Logic Pro and there were just a few times when you did something that I had to research how you did it. But I chalk that up to me being a noob. Excellent video. I subscribed.
@@GringoMouth Any pattern transposing instrument will do. Analysis is done in Roman numerals… makes understanding cadences etc. much simpler. Piano is great to understand a lot of theory, and surprisingly so are transposing instruments! (But yes… I am a guitarist mainly ;) )
Omg, I have wanted something like this forever. This is incredible. Does it handle pedal chords? 8:25 has my answer :-) So good! I wonder if GarageBand has this...
What amazes me is that all these DAWs with built in chords/chord identification are all islands. We need a standard for it as part of AU/VST/AAX so that key and chord dependent apps/plugs like Auto-Tune and Harmony Engine can tap into it.
Many thanks for posting, this is soooo helpful! I notice you use Kontakt? Do you do any tutorials or reviews on that? I am seriously tempted but there is so much bad press,
I have plans to do some tutorials for the new version of Komplete when I get a chance. I love Kontakt instruments, I use them all the time. Although, I will say that the routing needs to be simplified. There are still some clunky things that people are not happy with. And the typical naysayers of sample-based instruments with the tones 'baked' into the instruments. I don't mind that though - sometimes I just want to find a sound and use it. Other times I want to experiment with my own sounds, which in that case, I just open up a synthesizer.
Very nice feature and very well explained. Is there a way to have Logic Pro recognize the full chord progression from a sampled song you import, as well as to automatically map it to a tempo grid, so you have a good starter to add extra instruments to it?
Me too! I'm really hoping they add that in a future update. You CAN input MIDI from a MIDI controller, but yeah, unfortunately not from a MIDI region that doesn't already have region chords. Or at least have the option to analyze the region's chords, and THEN you could drag it in.
It needs to get the love and care it deserves! I feel like we were handed a “beta” version of this tool honestly. The potential is there and couldn’t agree more with this!
An easy way to play all/any chords would be way more useful than typing/choosing chords by name. You want to hear real time how it sounds not guess what chord will sound good next.
Fantastic tutorial. There is a lot to be desired here. I’d like see an actual tool like Captain Chords with Roman Numerals. I suck this level of music theory.
Wooooooot? 😱 I did not know that Logic had this. Sweeeeet! I have Logic X. I’ll check it out soon. I still need to get used to u being white. I always thought u were a black guy from ur tutorials of more than a year ago when u posted only with ur voice. 🤣🤣🤣 Btw dope tutorial like always. I’m so glad u used that Bdim. U proofed to me the essential of when to use it. I was like at the first tme(nooo nooo noo). Luckely u removed it. And the 2nd time I was like (yes yes yes yes keep it) And u kept it. It was like watching football. Goaaaaaaaal with that Bdim 😂😂😂😂. Keep up with the good work.🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Love your channel brother. It has taught me so much. You mentioned starting the recording on bar 2 to trigger all notes. Is there a way to trigger effects before a note is played? For example, reverb won’t start until you play a note, so the first note sounds dry. Is there a way to start the reverb from the very first note? Or am I overthinking this and I should just play something before my track to trigger effects? Thanks!
you said you like to start at bar 2 in case there's something before that. you quite likely already know this, but you can drag the ruler left to get more space. i usually drag it back to zero and then start on 1. i am pretty sure you can drag it back into the negatives for more space, but i'm not sure why someone would need or want to do that. also, in the midi editor if you press "shift+down arrow" then you'll select all the bottom notes, which would have worked well in this case since you were moving the bass notes around.
i like scaler (do not know about captain) but the point is that with logic 11 with a third part plugin one can really enjoy the composition process both as a newbe and a more expert person.
Great video! I didn’t need the global chord track for 25+ years of logic, but I’m playing with it now. 😉 Like your example, I flesh out a chord progression with a midi instrument. I add a drum beat from the logic loop browser. Now I want a funky guitar from the Cory Wong Apple Loops pack. I notice they all the guitar loops have embedded chords? When did that happen? So I drag in an audio loop. I drag down the global chord track to overwrite the embedded chords of the loop. It looks like it works….but the loop doesn’t change. Of course not, it’s audio not midi! So what’s the point of having the embedded chords in the audio loops? So, I’m back to manually chopping, adjusting the loop key, etc. to match my global chord track. Do you see any other way?
You're not weird... I start all my songs on bar 3 (two bars for count in etc.) About the video editing, isn't that getting much easier with some A.I. algorithm software that does a lot of the rough work for you? Sadly, I don't know the name. Thanks for the info on chord track, I still have to upgrade to MacOS Ventura and Logic Pro 11 but this is great preparation.
4:12 you can also drag from the top of the timeline (where the bar numbers are) to the left so that you get negative bars (e.g. -1) so then on bar one the time starts from zero
I didn’t realise it’s new feature. I thought it was a “marker”. I use it to make “note” what chord progression because I record my guitar section by section 😂 and usually not enough practice to memorise the chords of that new song.
Really looking for a quick way in logic to start chord progressions. The way you’re doing it you still have to pull the chords out of the air which takes a ton of time for me anyways.
I noticed bugs when you work with the chord track and the arrange track simultaneously, esp. when you delete a part, for instance a chorus. A part of the chord track can disappear near the end and parts may jump to the wrong position. I was wondering if you ever noticed this. Thanks a lot for another great video.
It's so cool that you can drag the chords to a midi track. Even cooler if you could drag them up from a midi track into the chord track! Why Logic?!!! Why? Imagine all of the songs (especially your song catalog) that could benefit from this. I know you can play chords into the chord track from a midi track, but it is so hit and miss on the timing.
What’s the easiest way to transpose it all afterwards? Do you just change the key at the top or have to select all of the notes and move them? Wouldn’t that have all of the chord words written be in The wrong key?
I do think the chord progression global track is amazingly powerful, but even with that said… it still doesn’t exactly help new users that don’t have a solid background in music theory an easy way to determine the best notes/chords to choose like many other midi packs etc. Granted I never use midi packs and I just easily play the chords in myself (solid music background) but I’ve always wondered why Logic (or at least GarageBand) doesn’t offer this very simple program as an add on or plugin like many other DAWs do? Even professionals don’t mind having simple chord tools to have on hand when trying to quickly gets ideas down on the grids.
Great job as usual. Just my 2 cents on your new visual format, I prefer your old format. Watching the presenter is just distracting to me personaly. :)
ya there was a chord track but it was clunkie as i recall. i dont even think i would have called it a chord track. i think it was logic 8 or 9 then they took it away. prob was a good idea... lol
It is a good tutorial but I don’t understand, why Ishould ever use something like this chord track because I’m much faster with playing the chords with a keyboard. And sorry, I think people should learn instruments and harmonies. maybe contemporary music would be better and more interesting
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In this video I demonstrate my new fastest way of building chord progressions in Logic Pro 11 using the drag and drop chord track feature. No MIDI controller required! Enjoy!
For mixing/mastering work, contact me at my website ➛ carneymediagroup.com
Follow MusicTechHelpGuy on Instagram ➛ instagram.com/musictechhelpguy
Check out my ad-free Logic Pro courses here ➛ logicproguide.com
Chapters:
0:00 Overview
2:16 Getting Started
4:19 Intro
12:34 Verse
15:04 Pre-chorus
19:26 Chorus
22:58 Wrap-Up
You do such a great job of sharing useful information. You focus on the product (not yourself like most on YT) and are a really great communicator. Just wanted to let you know, you’re greatly appreciated.
2 mins in and I can already feel my life changing
2 minutes in and i’m still waiting for him to get to the point.
I like the way you walk us through your thinking in this format of presentation. Thanks for all your insights and well rounded study of music as a creative outlet… so valuable!
Found this lesson to be very informative. Thanks so much😊
Man I so appreciate this video, as well as your others. There are 3-4 Logic educators I like, and you're at the very top. I just explored your tips here on a new song and it was so much fun, not to mention workable. Thanks Josh!
Hey Josh, I liked the flow of tutorial. If you have a well prepared plan for your video, I don’t think you need to kill yourself editing. I thought this was natural and the message and delivery were clear and to the point. Thanks as always.
I agree loving this format/style attempt fs ! I would def watch a songwriting and mixing start to finish guide or something
❤ Nice to highlight this cool newish feature. Good songwriting insights to like the pedaled A bass with Am and Dm kind of thing.
Love this format! Seeing how you use the tools is so much more applicable than being shown how the tools function.
Most useful channel! Keep it coming. Thanks
I love your videos - so grateful to have found your channel!
Amazing video as always, really enjoyed all your Logic Pro 11 tutorials. Just wanna let you know that I start on Bar 2 too! I'm equally as weird :D
Loving this style of tuition, major thumbs up from me Josh.
Excellent video. Clear, direct information in a realistic use case.
You got a really nice piece there man. So cool!
The feature is so so, but hearing your process for writing was really interesting and explained well. Thanks!
Great video. Love all your vids. As far as the difference between your more edited videos and this being less edited, it was fine and had a good continuity. The format served the topic well in that we get a glimpse into your composers mind if that makes any sense. Would love to see a series on music theory. Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to your next tutorial.
Great post Josh, thanks so much 👊
7:05 Literally sitting here with a jaw dropped. Wizard-magician black magic. This is AMAZING! I used to create a label track for chords which was kind of cumbersome.
I really liked this new format, maybe not for CONTENT training like in your overall Logic Pro series which I think is better using your well-produced and very didactic format. But to see how you APPLY the content is really really helpful.
I would really love to see you continue developing this song. What would be your next steps in your process? For example, would you next think about what genre you wanted to use? Would you then add an appropriate baseline based on that genre? And how would you think about Melody, and what process would you use to add it? Frankly would be helpful for you to go all the way to mixing and then even mastering the final track. Those are some of my ideas…
I second this!
I love the channel and the content non matter the formats
Hi, for intros in Logic you can use a little hide option, the little arrow/triangle in the bar rule, between bar 1 and track heads, and while click it and slide it to the left appears negative bars. Then bar 1 will be always bar 1 in your song.
Never see it this topic before in any youtube video about Logic, and will be a game changer about writing intros.
Thanks for the content of your videos!
Personally I really enjoyed this format … I like seeing your whole process rather than a distilled version.
It’s preferable for me because I also get to see some of your editing techniques that you might otherwise edit out.
As for the chord track, it is a great start from Apple and I’m sure they will add more features.
I really want it to allow me to play in a chord progression and analyse it for me.
Hello. Very nice progression. The format of the video is top. Thanks. Max, yourFrench follower 😃
I liked your approach on this video. Interesting to see how you think in creating a song. Thanks!
This is terrific. I'm just learning Logic Pro and just recently discovered Unison MIDI chord pack (saw an older video of yours). The Logic chord track is very cool though unlike Unison it seems you can't drag and drop example chord progressions right into the track.
A friend suggested I check out your channel and I'm glad he did. The format was perfect and I don't think you have to go crazy editing it. You were clear with instructions on what you were doing and how you were doing it. I'm brand new to Logic Pro and there were just a few times when you did something that I had to research how you did it. But I chalk that up to me being a noob. Excellent video. I subscribed.
What I wish was that it allowed me to use Roman numerals or NNN. Easier to think in terms the progression rather than be stuck on the key signature.
Did you just out yourself as a guitarist? Or do other instruments do this as well?
@@GringoMouth Any pattern transposing instrument will do. Analysis is done in Roman numerals… makes understanding cadences etc. much simpler. Piano is great to understand a lot of theory, and surprisingly so are transposing instruments!
(But yes… I am a guitarist mainly ;) )
@@michaelvarney. I think in roman numerals and intervals. Took a good teacher to break it down. (Still an upper intermediate player, though.)
Omg, I have wanted something like this forever. This is incredible. Does it handle pedal chords? 8:25 has my answer :-) So good! I wonder if GarageBand has this...
Great video. I luv this process! 🎊 🎉
Love this style of video bro, Different is good.
What amazes me is that all these DAWs with built in chords/chord identification are all islands. We need a standard for it as part of AU/VST/AAX so that key and chord dependent apps/plugs like Auto-Tune and Harmony Engine can tap into it.
MIDI Chord Pack lol.
Your videos are always great.
GREAT VIDEO
Many thanks for posting, this is soooo helpful! I notice you use Kontakt? Do you do any tutorials or reviews on that? I am seriously tempted but there is so much bad press,
I have plans to do some tutorials for the new version of Komplete when I get a chance. I love Kontakt instruments, I use them all the time. Although, I will say that the routing needs to be simplified. There are still some clunky things that people are not happy with. And the typical naysayers of sample-based instruments with the tones 'baked' into the instruments. I don't mind that though - sometimes I just want to find a sound and use it. Other times I want to experiment with my own sounds, which in that case, I just open up a synthesizer.
7:10 blew my mind, sir. I've been drawing this stuff in manually... EVEN WITH THE UPDATE TO 11!!! 😡😡😡 hahah Thanks for this video, man! 👍👍
Very nice feature and very well explained. Is there a way to have Logic Pro recognize the full chord progression from a sampled song you import, as well as to automatically map it to a tempo grid, so you have a good starter to add extra instruments to it?
The Chord Track desperately needs the option to drag midi directly into it and have the chords identified. As in Cubase and Studio One.
Me too! I'm really hoping they add that in a future update. You CAN input MIDI from a MIDI controller, but yeah, unfortunately not from a MIDI region that doesn't already have region chords. Or at least have the option to analyze the region's chords, and THEN you could drag it in.
It needs to get the love and care it deserves! I feel like we were handed a “beta” version of this tool honestly. The potential is there and couldn’t agree more with this!
TRUTH!!
@@MusicTechHelpGuy I don't understand why they have not enabled the reverse drag of chords up into the chord track?
Hopefully on the next update!!
An easy way to play all/any chords would be way more useful than typing/choosing chords by name. You want to hear real time how it sounds not guess what chord will sound good next.
Fantastic tutorial. There is a lot to be desired here. I’d like see an actual tool like Captain Chords with Roman Numerals. I suck this level of music theory.
Wooooooot? 😱 I did not know that Logic had this. Sweeeeet! I have Logic X. I’ll check it out soon. I still need to get used to u being white. I always thought u were a black guy from ur tutorials of more than a year ago when u posted only with ur voice. 🤣🤣🤣 Btw dope tutorial like always. I’m so glad u used that Bdim. U proofed to me the essential of when to use it. I was like at the first tme(nooo nooo noo). Luckely u removed it. And the 2nd time I was like (yes yes yes yes keep it) And u kept it. It was like watching football. Goaaaaaaaal with that Bdim 😂😂😂😂. Keep up with the good work.🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Love your channel brother. It has taught me so much.
You mentioned starting the recording on bar 2 to trigger all notes. Is there a way to trigger effects before a note is played? For example, reverb won’t start until you play a note, so the first note sounds dry. Is there a way to start the reverb from the very first note? Or am I overthinking this and I should just play something before my track to trigger effects? Thanks!
you said you like to start at bar 2 in case there's something before that. you quite likely already know this, but you can drag the ruler left to get more space. i usually drag it back to zero and then start on 1. i am pretty sure you can drag it back into the negatives for more space, but i'm not sure why someone would need or want to do that.
also, in the midi editor if you press "shift+down arrow" then you'll select all the bottom notes, which would have worked well in this case since you were moving the bass notes around.
i like scaler (do not know about captain) but the point is that with logic 11 with a third part plugin one can really enjoy the composition process both as a newbe and a more expert person.
Great video! I didn’t need the global chord track for 25+ years of logic, but I’m playing with it now. 😉 Like your example, I flesh out a chord progression with a midi instrument. I add a drum beat from the logic loop browser. Now I want a funky guitar from the Cory Wong Apple Loops pack. I notice they all the guitar loops have embedded chords? When did that happen? So I drag in an audio loop. I drag down the global chord track to overwrite the embedded chords of the loop. It looks like it works….but the loop doesn’t change. Of course not, it’s audio not midi! So what’s the point of having the embedded chords in the audio loops? So, I’m back to manually chopping, adjusting the loop key, etc. to match my global chord track. Do you see any other way?
Great channel
"I like to work in ... A Minorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" Sorry I had to. Great vid tho
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it would perhaps be a good follow up to take this through an actual song, using some of the Logic 11 bass and drum features?
Can you do a video on chord progression table with chart and even on circle of fifths. That would be helpful.
You're not weird... I start all my songs on bar 3 (two bars for count in etc.) About the video editing, isn't that getting much easier with some A.I. algorithm software that does a lot of the rough work for you? Sadly, I don't know the name. Thanks for the info on chord track, I still have to upgrade to MacOS Ventura and Logic Pro 11 but this is great preparation.
you will never have to learn ever again! wow wow gee golly wizzzzz wowser!
4:12 you can also drag from the top of the timeline (where the bar numbers are) to the left so that you get negative bars (e.g. -1) so then on bar one the time starts from zero
There’s a bug in Logic that can result in some weird glitches to the chord track, when working with negative bars
@@slowlyIturned thanks, didn't know about it. hopefully it will get fixed
Thanks!
I didn’t realise it’s new feature.
I thought it was a “marker”.
I use it to make “note” what chord progression because I record my guitar section by section 😂 and usually not enough practice to memorise the chords of that new song.
Really looking for a quick way in logic to start chord progressions. The way you’re doing it you still have to pull the chords out of the air which takes a ton of time for me anyways.
Every DAW should have this feature.
I noticed bugs when you work with the chord track and the arrange track simultaneously, esp. when you delete a part, for instance a chorus. A part of the chord track can disappear near the end and parts may jump to the wrong position. I was wondering if you ever noticed this. Thanks a lot for another great video.
It's so cool that you can drag the chords to a midi track. Even cooler if you could drag them up from a midi track into the chord track! Why Logic?!!! Why? Imagine all of the songs (especially your song catalog) that could benefit from this. I know you can play chords into the chord track from a midi track, but it is so hit and miss on the timing.
for me is great what you explain but for me I need to decide my melody to make the chord progressions make sense
How long until Logic will support adding a 0 or -1 bar to a song by default so you can start on bar 1 without feeling squeezed?
What’s the easiest way to transpose it all afterwards? Do you just change the key at the top or have to select all of the notes and move them? Wouldn’t that have all of the chord words written be in The wrong key?
👍🏾
I do think the chord progression global track is amazingly powerful, but even with that said… it still doesn’t exactly help new users that don’t have a solid background in music theory an easy way to determine the best notes/chords to choose like many other midi packs etc.
Granted I never use midi packs and I just easily play the chords in myself (solid music background) but I’ve always wondered why Logic (or at least GarageBand) doesn’t offer this very simple program as an add on or plugin like many other DAWs do? Even professionals don’t mind having simple chord tools to have on hand when trying to quickly gets ideas down on the grids.
Is there any way to play the chords from the keyboard in to the chord progression?
What about using the chord track with live loops? Doesn't seem to be possible?
Any shortcut available to input chord track except Tab key??
Have masters degree and still like working with “A minooooooorrrrrr”
Wow and I recently bought Klimper plugin too smh
What if you don’t know what chords to choose
Great job as usual. Just my 2 cents on your new visual format, I prefer your old format. Watching the presenter is just distracting to me personaly. :)
Nah midi packs will still be needed lol. Especially for certain specific genres
ya there was a chord track but it was clunkie as i recall. i dont even think i would have called it a chord track. i think it was logic 8 or 9 then they took it away. prob was a good idea... lol
take something new away from every video of yours. On behalf of all the bedroom hacks out here; Cheers to all the work you do.
I'm a bar 2 weirdo as well I guess 😎
This is definitely not for beginners, however well done.
Nowadays, getting curious why music producers of today focus on chord tracks first instead of a tune. Nevertheless, the video is good. Regards.
🎹🎼🎷👍👋
i dont see the chord track when i right clicked.
It is a good tutorial but I don’t understand, why Ishould ever use something like this chord track because I’m much faster with playing the chords with a keyboard. And sorry, I think people should learn instruments and harmonies. maybe contemporary music would be better and more interesting
Thanks but we all not chord masters like you
Old video
This is why it doesn't work - You need to have some musicality