I think we're getting into a good point with handheld. Competition should make products offer more at a lower price. I had a gpd win 1 and now there are way more options depending on needs
My gpd win 1 was a bittersweet experience. Sometimes, I loved it. The deck tho? It's been a constant surprise. Not that much time has passed! So the market is FINALLY where I wanted it to be when I bought the Experia play! 😊😊😊
I don't think it counts as too much, since these expensive handhelds are still just niche. Switch and Steam Deck are the only ones that are mainstream, affordable, and accessible to people that don't want PC jank. If we get a portable Xbox or PS with its own OS, that would be the next one to make it big
It would be interesting to see if Xbox does release their own, they compete with Sony directly, but don't do everything the same, like adaptive triggers and the motion aim stuff. And since their PC, they can just leverage their cloud apps for now. I'm surprised a little Sony hasn't released a new one yet (since psp and vita), or maybe their taking notes for now?
@@syd417 Oh cool! I wouldn't be surprised with Xbox either, I heard they were trying to get their cloud app on nintendo. I know they're currently pushing in on TVs. My company is selling TV and controller bundles like hotcakes
Yeah, Sony and MS are the only ones with a real shot besides the two you mentioned. They can subsidize the price enough to make it attractive and they already have solid interfaces people are familiar with. Everyone else is just eating scraps until they give up and move on. AYANEO has a chance to hang around simply because they crowd fund and don't need to sell in huge volume. They fill the alternative niche just fine doing that.
The inputs alone sell the deck, there isn't a game I can't play, the ally is only better docked, otherwise the battery life is worse than the deck since it uses more power
Handheld PCs are coming out. The Switch is still the only handheld console in the market (assuming you are not counting 3ds and Vita). Also why do people act as if handheld systems are some kind of a new concept. Handhelds have existed since the day of the Game & Watch. Gameboy, GBA, DS, 3ds, PSP, PS Vita, Game Gear, etc. all exist.
steam deck is just as much of a console as the switch. It ticks literally every box that a console does. Does the fact that the ps2 and ps3 could have linux installed make them PCs now and not consoles?
@@HearMeLearn except the official website itself states that Steam Deck is a handheld PC. Valve have no where used the word console. Also Steam is a PC digital store. And the Steam Deck does not restrict you to one store like PlayStation, Nintendo and Xbox. Steam Deck officially allows installation of Windows, a PC OS. And the Deck runs PC versions of the games. So no, Steam Deck is a PC.
I have a steamdeck and also just got my GDP win4. the steam deck has been great but it is super big to carry. The GDP win 4 is much smaller and and is windows portable and so far I am liking it almost as much as my steamdeck. I would love to see more Nintendo switch type devices that allow off-line play. I am tempted to check out the ROG Ally when it comes out. The new PSP that needs a data connection to play is a big no for me.
could you imagine an XBOX Series P (Portable), that can play the same games as the XBOX Series S but at 900p or 1080p and being able to play those games OTG with all the back compatibility features and stuff, it would be a MUST HAVE.
I think any sort of question of "too many" is coming at the question from the wrong angle. Sure, having 50 different consoles like the PS5 or XBONE is (arguably) a bad thing as it fragments the market as companies are incentivized to get console exclusives. However, there is no chance of these devices fragmenting the market as they are because they all pull from the steam game base. To me this question is more similar to asking if there are too many laptops on the market. Which unless you are looking at it from a very specific angle (choice paralysis and potential for buy overpriced duds due to lack of research) this is undoubtedly a good thing. It's a bunch of companies competing to make the best product they can for their chosen price point which incentivizes them to innovate and not rest on their laurels(cough, Nintendo, cough).
11:53 all of those cookies are actually Nabisco. That means that the cookies except Hydrox are mostly made with the same parts. They don't source flour for cookies from different vendors depending on the cookie it goes into. So it's actually more like the computer components than you think.
As soon as I get back to a stable source of income, I'm going to save up for a GPD Win 4. In terms of features and form factor, it's my ideal handheld PC, and from what I've read, people who've had their hands on it don't seem to have had any major issues with it. It's also more powerful than a Steam Deck. Of course, it costs twice as much, but I think it'll be worth it.
I love handhelds! I really hope Sony gets back in the handheld game (not remote play/cloud gaming). I have a Steam Deck, a Switch, a 3DS, and last but not least, a DS.
One of the greatest "tricks" the Steam Deck has that other handhelds just can't achieve, is keeping pretty playable stats when running in 10W mode. I wonder if these newer Z1 chips will be able to keep up the playability of games at much lower TDPs in the same way - because power and high performance is great, but battery life matters _way_ more for a handheld. So that really needs to be targeted specifically and I honestly have my doubts.
Naaah especially since the 90s-2000s, everyone wanted to be gameboy and ds, it ranges from psp success, which is not gba or ds success, to gizmondo's widescreen variant success, which was never released due to their company going caput.
It's Nintendo. The answer is it won't. Nintendo never cared for other things outside their company. They will build how they want it to be. It's their way or the highway for them
I was going to go on my own "what if" and "how about this" tangent. Ultimately, I hope to see options flourish. We have Nintendo embracing the play anywhere mentality. We have the power to play our PC games anywhere with desktops (mini and the "normal" towers), laptops, and the variety of handheld PC devices out now. Phones are wonderfully viable options thanks to many of the games from indie devs appearing on Android and iOS, along with streaming options from Sony, Microsoft, Steam, and nVidia. It is one hell of a time to be alive! If I can be so bold, we all should start speculating on when Sony and Microsoft jump on the whole "switch" style format. How that would work...I have some ideas on how to make it work.
I feel like despite all this, eventually people will just default to the established brands. Sony, Nintendo, Valve and MS are the only companies that can subsidize their products enough to make their handhelds attractive price wise. Everyone else is just flooding into a tiny niche market of $700-$1500 handheld PC's. Even if each brand has a gaming handheld, I feel Sony, MS and Valve would be all very similar to each other with Nintendo being the only one with enough unique software to be attractive.
I think we have too many emulation based devices considering most sub $300 smartphones can emulate 75% of what there is to even emulate. Most people already have a capable device ready to go. Use an a console controller with a $20 clip or buy a Razer Kishi if you got the budget and save spending even more on a device, while also not having to carry around another. Streaming, pointless for many people so no opinion and it's pretty much available on everything with a screen. PC based gaming handhelds are still early, but I'm interested to see how fast we can transition and make it a common platform on the market.
Man, I remember when handhelds were said to be dead. No one is gone to want a handheld system, when you have a phone. And that was when the 3DS was coming out. Then those people said the 3DS would be the last handheld. And then the Switch happened. Boy, it sure is a strange world we live in, ever since handheld gaming systems went extinct. ;p
Omg he said it, I've been talking about how Sony should push more into pc gaming, more of a store and not an os, but it adds to what I've been thinking and wanting forever now
The single most important thing with these handhelds is support. With a switch you're pretty much guaranteed to have it from launch day to the day it is discontinued and usually a good few years beyond that. The only one that comes close so far is the steam deck in that way and honestly the only one I would trust again would be another switch or Nintendo type portable hybrid console. Microsoft,Sony I don't know if I'd trust them especially Sony after the debacle with the Vita.
Sony podla mna pouzije nejaky arm chip a k tomu android a bude to stream handheld alebo nieco ako Z1/custom APU a vlastny system. V podstate s takym vykonom aky ma Z1 extreme alebo aj Z1 by mohli pouzit system ps4/ps5 s malymi upravami. Alebo Vita 3000 O_o
The handheld gaming industry is currently like the car industry. Steam deck is like Hyundai/ Kia. When One X is Tesla quality but expensive. The other brands are like Gm, Ford, etc trying to compete in a market that has a quality and affordable offering with efficient tech.
The ally is a really tempting device for this price. It feels like the device the switch 2 should ve been. Would be interesting to see steam os running on the Asus competitor. ☮️
Back when the Microsoft Xbox game pass PC app and the Microsoft app store was heavily advertised for Windows 10, 6 years ago. Microsoft could have made an Xbox edition Surface pro or even some other portable computer that let you play the Xbox Game pass app on the go. Another thing is all these handheld gaming pc's all have there own flaws. For starters is that the Steam platform requires you have internet to access your Steam library and same goes with most of the other gaming distribution stores like the ones from Ubisoft, Epic Games, EA, Microsoft, and others. But there will always be that battery life and storage issues on these devices. Along with the weird unstandardized sizing and button layouts.
I legit agree with Microsoft needing to make an Xbox handheld that isn't just a cloud gaming device (but can cloud game). It would probably take over a good market share of the handheld space. The rest of the handheld market is far too niche, not enough support, and the steam deck will likely be the main squeeze for a long time coming for people who want to play pc games and do some cloud and retro gaming. Very few people comparatively want to be paying full budget pc price for handhelds, and likely already have good enough PCs and cloud gaming options already on hand (says guy with a switch, pc, xbox, ps4, and some retro handhelds)
Competition and choice are good but it's all so overwhelming sometimes. It feels like there's a new one of these things being announced every other month. Computer companies have plenty of laptops and desktops available, but considering what almost everyone uses a handheld PC for (Steam and emulation), the range of hardware for pc and retro specific stuff is needlessly crowded.
I'm getting between 100 and 120 on the latest Star Wars game on my top end PC. Heck, my Win Max 2 got a steady 35 fps most of the time with a few dips and spikes.
I mean, the reviews clearly depict a night and day difference with integrated RDNA 3, a number of systems are now running the mobile 7000 series and it’s a significant bump in performance, not to mention the newer generation Zen Cores…
It don't mean shit when navigating windows and inputs are gonna be horrendous on the ally, I play way more than controller only games... people are to simple minded, even the battery life is worse on the ally
Based on past products I've purchased / wanted to buy / still would love to get my hands on the 'Playstation PC' could absolutely be viable. Granted I have no idea what the gimmick or unique integration should be but they are clever enough to come up with one. When I was deep into minidisc and purchasing a new portable player ever year (possibly some planned obsolescence there tbh of dead units after 365 days of use on the dot..) I still bought a all in one CD/tape/tuner/MD stereo because it meet my needs. The only in Japan integrated MD PC would have lived in my dreams constantly if I'd known it's existence, and if I had the $ (and patience) to recreate my old setup now with it I totally would.
Yeah and the last time Sony tried to compete with Nintendo on the handheld side, they got kicked badly. The DS sold double of what the PSP sold and the 3ds slaughtered the Vita. Sony is best left making home consoles. There is a reason why Microsoft backed away from the handheld market. They were looking to make one back during the PSP and DS days.
Looking forward to the Ally, but I'm beyond tired of Windows as the only viable gaming platform. Steam Deck has proven once and for all that Linux is viable competition, something we Linux users have been saying for years. The flood of Windows handhelds just perpetuates the shittiness that is Windows. I very much want an Ally, but I will be putting some form of Linux/SteamOS on it.
What we need is a portable device that can allow users to buy game cards. That way games can be heavily optimized while also giving the users the ability to do normal pc stuff, like how the steam deck works but better
Gpd win max 2 has an oculink port that blows thunderbolt 4 out of the water for egpu. Probably the best one if you have the money and can handle the form factor.
Many of them are not that different, I would argue it is better to think of them as closer to laptops than consoles. We can have too many consoles as that implies console exclusives, whereas I would argue you cannot have too many laptops as more laptops just means more competition which implies more innovation to give your own product an edge.
@@JDabz96 that's just wrong though. It's only better at being cheap. If you're someone who has more money than what to do with it (plenty of PC gamers it seems) there are objectively better options.
@@elirantuil5003 this device restricts you to controller only games on the go.... the input are horrendous, navigating windows with a joystick Is batshit.... and it's gonna have worse battery life than the deck unless you make the settings similar to the steam decks.... you people have smooth brains. This is just windows throwing money to compete with Linux, since Linux is a superior OS... they don't want to lose there monopoly... all the fucking bots in the chat
The issue is it really depends on early adopters and sales. You could get the ROG and they decide to give up because Steam is outselling them. Then you're stick without much, if any support.
The ally is gonna fail in my opinion, it's do as good as the Aya neo, the deck is just better for inputs a lone, isn't a game I can't play, while the ally will cut you library down quite a bit to controller only
Would it parallel the idea of the bystander effect (except for enterprises)? If there is too much competition, the consumer get decision paralysis of which is best for them to buy, the target audience is still rather niche. Other companies might decide it’s not worth developing in (yet) especially if they need to compete with the heavy hitters?
Sony's isn't a real Steam Deck/ROG Ally handheld. I think it's just a wireless controller you can take with you to play distant from your PS5 within your house. It's less expensive than the rest of the hand helds.
Windows has to compete with Linux somehow, quite sad honestly, the device is powerful yea... but it's poorly thought out, and the lack of inputs makes the ally a joke to me, I cant imagine playing even half my game library without trackpads... they just make mouse only games so much easier
whatever comes next, it has to be as affordable as the steamdeck if you want wide adoption of hte device. It also needs to be AVAILABLE without pre-ordering, much like the PSP was back in the day. Plain and simple.
If Nintendo releases the switch 2, it's game over man. They've positioned themselves in such a way that people who don't know about these other companies are just going to call it a bigger switch or switch ripoff
6:21 It's actually quite within Sony's character to try and go after Nintendo. Sony already backstabbed Nintendo once before. The Nintendo Playstation deal went sour because Sony tried to backstab Nintendo, and Nintendo found out about it. Sony might still be a little sore after the 1991 Consumer Electronics Show where they announced that they would be making a disk system for Nintendo, and Nintendo turned around and said "Nope, Phillips is making that". Publicly.
I have a switch lite, but the screen is too small for me. I was thinking of getting the Switch Oled, but I'm starting to dislike the Nintendo online store. Also, over time, I've purchased several Steam and GOG games. The other day I walked into a Best Buy and saw the Asus Rog Ally, and I think I am going to go with that device instead. Its more expensive but it seems like all things considered, its a good deal for me.
I think aya needs to cool it a bit and just concentrate on one affordable model i wanted one but i know if i wait a couple of months they will be a better model
"steam deck" this "rog ally" that back in my day we went outside and BUILT A DECK and stormed normandy with the ALLIES
I hate and love this comment lmao
@@HearMeLearn I hate and love your username lmao
@@HearMeLearn you sound like the name your name sounds like lol
*LMFAO* 😅😭
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I think we're getting into a good point with handheld. Competition should make products offer more at a lower price. I had a gpd win 1 and now there are way more options depending on needs
My gpd win 1 was a bittersweet experience. Sometimes, I loved it.
The deck tho? It's been a constant surprise. Not that much time has passed! So the market is FINALLY where I wanted it to be when I bought the Experia play! 😊😊😊
Thats what i said competition is always good It makes better handhelds and lower prices
You can never have too many handhelds.
You, sir, are incorrect.
@@AnthonyELombardihow am I incorrect? It's always good to have many options for the consumer.
Shit speak for yourself. I have the steam Deck and I’m fine with it
@John-Paul Hunt in my opinion Xbox game pass is not really all that great I have it & I can’t really find any games I wanna play
Bruh I just clicked on the video to say the exact same thing. Thankkk youuuuu!
I don't think it counts as too much, since these expensive handhelds are still just niche. Switch and Steam Deck are the only ones that are mainstream, affordable, and accessible to people that don't want PC jank. If we get a portable Xbox or PS with its own OS, that would be the next one to make it big
It would be interesting to see if Xbox does release their own, they compete with Sony directly, but don't do everything the same, like adaptive triggers and the motion aim stuff. And since their PC, they can just leverage their cloud apps for now. I'm surprised a little Sony hasn't released a new one yet (since psp and vita), or maybe their taking notes for now?
@@slaternapier1640 Playstation announced recently that they are coming out with one. I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox makes one to compete.
@@syd417 Oh cool! I wouldn't be surprised with Xbox either, I heard they were trying to get their cloud app on nintendo. I know they're currently pushing in on TVs. My company is selling TV and controller bundles like hotcakes
Yeah, Sony and MS are the only ones with a real shot besides the two you mentioned. They can subsidize the price enough to make it attractive and they already have solid interfaces people are familiar with. Everyone else is just eating scraps until they give up and move on. AYANEO has a chance to hang around simply because they crowd fund and don't need to sell in huge volume. They fill the alternative niche just fine doing that.
Asus Rog will be Mainstream
As a Steam Deck owner i am happy about competition even though for me the deck is always the obvious choice.
The inputs alone sell the deck, there isn't a game I can't play, the ally is only better docked, otherwise the battery life is worse than the deck since it uses more power
Steam deck is better in a lot of ways
I’m so excited about the ways Valve decided to attack this problem. The future is bright for this device, and/or its successor IMO
Handheld PCs are coming out. The Switch is still the only handheld console in the market (assuming you are not counting 3ds and Vita). Also why do people act as if handheld systems are some kind of a new concept. Handhelds have existed since the day of the Game & Watch. Gameboy, GBA, DS, 3ds, PSP, PS Vita, Game Gear, etc. all exist.
steam deck is just as much of a console as the switch. It ticks literally every box that a console does. Does the fact that the ps2 and ps3 could have linux installed make them PCs now and not consoles?
@@HearMeLearn except the official website itself states that Steam Deck is a handheld PC. Valve have no where used the word console. Also Steam is a PC digital store. And the Steam Deck does not restrict you to one store like PlayStation, Nintendo and Xbox. Steam Deck officially allows installation of Windows, a PC OS. And the Deck runs PC versions of the games. So no, Steam Deck is a PC.
@@redring4083 your wrong opinion is yours to have my friend
Me watching this video with a broken PSP and a DS Lite:
I have a steamdeck and also just got my GDP win4. the steam deck has been great but it is super big to carry. The GDP win 4 is much smaller and and is windows portable and so far I am liking it almost as much as my steamdeck. I would love to see more Nintendo switch type devices that allow off-line play. I am tempted to check out the ROG Ally when it comes out. The new PSP that needs a data connection to play is a big no for me.
'theres no shot it's just a remote play console'
Oof 😅😭
could you imagine an XBOX Series P (Portable), that can play the same games as the XBOX Series S but at 900p or 1080p and being able to play those games OTG with all the back compatibility features and stuff, it would be a MUST HAVE.
I want it to be called Series E, just for the sake of Series 'S E X'
I'd even take 720p for better battery and framerates. That and gamepass and xbox can grab some of that lead that PS has
@@MSH0797 Microsoft is not Pepsi, whey won't do something like that.
Switch and Steam deck are the two best in my opinion
They are definitely the most popular but not the best
Can confirm i have both and it been amazing, cant wait for the ROG ALLY. 🎉
Steam deck is definitely the best all around, inputs and customization alone make the ally look like a joke l
@@JDabz96 not really lol.
@@JDabz96 can you explain whats the problem with inputs and customization on rog ally?
I think any sort of question of "too many" is coming at the question from the wrong angle. Sure, having 50 different consoles like the PS5 or XBONE is (arguably) a bad thing as it fragments the market as companies are incentivized to get console exclusives. However, there is no chance of these devices fragmenting the market as they are because they all pull from the steam game base. To me this question is more similar to asking if there are too many laptops on the market. Which unless you are looking at it from a very specific angle (choice paralysis and potential for buy overpriced duds due to lack of research) this is undoubtedly a good thing. It's a bunch of companies competing to make the best product they can for their chosen price point which incentivizes them to innovate and not rest on their laurels(cough, Nintendo, cough).
5:35 That didnt age well lmao
Too many handhelds is never enough.
Competition always benefits consumers. There should be MORE available fighting for dominance!
you can blame the way things are for microsofts early days of buy the competition.
Competition sometimes brings stuff like exclusive games. Not sure if this is better.
Aya Neo dropping new Handheld Devices every few Months
11:53 all of those cookies are actually Nabisco. That means that the cookies except Hydrox are mostly made with the same parts. They don't source flour for cookies from different vendors depending on the cookie it goes into. So it's actually more like the computer components than you think.
As soon as I get back to a stable source of income, I'm going to save up for a GPD Win 4. In terms of features and form factor, it's my ideal handheld PC, and from what I've read, people who've had their hands on it don't seem to have had any major issues with it. It's also more powerful than a Steam Deck. Of course, it costs twice as much, but I think it'll be worth it.
I love handhelds! I really hope Sony gets back in the handheld game (not remote play/cloud gaming). I have a Steam Deck, a Switch, a 3DS, and last but not least, a DS.
The handheld bubble is going to burst sooner rather than later.
This looks like the video game Crash of 2023
One of the greatest "tricks" the Steam Deck has that other handhelds just can't achieve, is keeping pretty playable stats when running in 10W mode. I wonder if these newer Z1 chips will be able to keep up the playability of games at much lower TDPs in the same way - because power and high performance is great, but battery life matters _way_ more for a handheld. So that really needs to be targeted specifically and I honestly have my doubts.
Naaah especially since the 90s-2000s, everyone wanted to be gameboy and ds, it ranges from psp success, which is not gba or ds success, to gizmondo's widescreen variant success, which was never released due to their company going caput.
The more accurate statement is "I don't have enough cash to buy all the handhelds" 😁😂💯
No love for the PlayDate? It's a legitimate console, I swear.
id love to see a video on how the proliferation of handhelds affects the next interaction of the switch
It's Nintendo. The answer is it won't. Nintendo never cared for other things outside their company. They will build how they want it to be. It's their way or the highway for them
I was going to go on my own "what if" and "how about this" tangent. Ultimately, I hope to see options flourish. We have Nintendo embracing the play anywhere mentality. We have the power to play our PC games anywhere with desktops (mini and the "normal" towers), laptops, and the variety of handheld PC devices out now. Phones are wonderfully viable options thanks to many of the games from indie devs appearing on Android and iOS, along with streaming options from Sony, Microsoft, Steam, and nVidia. It is one hell of a time to be alive!
If I can be so bold, we all should start speculating on when Sony and Microsoft jump on the whole "switch" style format. How that would work...I have some ideas on how to make it work.
That first “PSP” render was just the backbone PlayStation edition 😂
I feel like despite all this, eventually people will just default to the established brands. Sony, Nintendo, Valve and MS are the only companies that can subsidize their products enough to make their handhelds attractive price wise. Everyone else is just flooding into a tiny niche market of $700-$1500 handheld PC's. Even if each brand has a gaming handheld, I feel Sony, MS and Valve would be all very similar to each other with Nintendo being the only one with enough unique software to be attractive.
I agree 100% valve is super trusted and helpful, there customer service alone is way better than rog
I think we have too many emulation based devices considering most sub $300 smartphones can emulate 75% of what there is to even emulate. Most people already have a capable device ready to go. Use an a console controller with a $20 clip or buy a Razer Kishi if you got the budget and save spending even more on a device, while also not having to carry around another. Streaming, pointless for many people so no opinion and it's pretty much available on everything with a screen. PC based gaming handhelds are still early, but I'm interested to see how fast we can transition and make it a common platform on the market.
Kenzie to the rescue: 69 Terrafarts per Megashit.
Man, I remember when handhelds were said to be dead. No one is gone to want a handheld system, when you have a phone.
And that was when the 3DS was coming out.
Then those people said the 3DS would be the last handheld. And then the Switch happened.
Boy, it sure is a strange world we live in, ever since handheld gaming systems went extinct. ;p
Omg he said it, I've been talking about how Sony should push more into pc gaming, more of a store and not an os, but it adds to what I've been thinking and wanting forever now
Coming from their review of the Ally…feel like a time traveler!
The single most important thing with these handhelds is support. With a switch you're pretty much guaranteed to have it from launch day to the day it is discontinued and usually a good few years beyond that. The only one that comes close so far is the steam deck in that way and honestly the only one I would trust again would be another switch or Nintendo type portable hybrid console.
Microsoft,Sony I don't know if I'd trust them especially Sony after the debacle with the Vita.
The thing about the steam deck is the controller works fully and flawlessly with steam input.
Too many handhelds?! And I cant even get my hand held ONCE?!
Stay thirsty, my simp kings...
I wish you're right about sony using z1 coz that's also where my logic leads to
Sony podla mna pouzije nejaky arm chip a k tomu android a bude to stream handheld alebo nieco ako Z1/custom APU a vlastny system. V podstate s takym vykonom aky ma Z1 extreme alebo aj Z1 by mohli pouzit system ps4/ps5 s malymi upravami. Alebo Vita 3000 O_o
The handheld gaming industry is currently like the car industry. Steam deck is like Hyundai/ Kia. When One X is Tesla quality but expensive. The other brands are like Gm, Ford, etc trying to compete in a market that has a quality and affordable offering with efficient tech.
Damn they were so wrong about the Q Lite. The PlayStation Portal really IS a remote play only device
I'd rather see more handhelds than less handhelds...
The ally is a really tempting device for this price. It feels like the device the switch 2 should ve been. Would be interesting to see steam os running on the Asus competitor. ☮️
The inputs alone make it a trash device... and if people can't figure out why then they should stuck with there consoles
Bring back the OG handheld, fellas you know what to do
Back when the Microsoft Xbox game pass PC app and the Microsoft app store was heavily advertised for Windows 10, 6 years ago. Microsoft could have made an Xbox edition Surface pro or even some other portable computer that let you play the Xbox Game pass app on the go. Another thing is all these handheld gaming pc's all have there own flaws. For starters is that the Steam platform requires you have internet to access your Steam library and same goes with most of the other gaming distribution stores like the ones from Ubisoft, Epic Games, EA, Microsoft, and others. But there will always be that battery life and storage issues on these devices. Along with the weird unstandardized sizing and button layouts.
What's the hidden meaning behind that Red Bull? There are too many energy drinks, but you only need one?
how well would Star Wars Jedi Survivor run on the steam deck?
So many that I can't keep up.
Now we know, the Q Lite does SFA except remote play (and maybe cloud gaming in the future)..good work Sony.
Both next gen consoles failed to meet expectations. Switch and Steam Deck it is
"for Sony to compete with MS"????
Dude it's the other way round.😂
I legit agree with Microsoft needing to make an Xbox handheld that isn't just a cloud gaming device (but can cloud game). It would probably take over a good market share of the handheld space. The rest of the handheld market is far too niche, not enough support, and the steam deck will likely be the main squeeze for a long time coming for people who want to play pc games and do some cloud and retro gaming. Very few people comparatively want to be paying full budget pc price for handhelds, and likely already have good enough PCs and cloud gaming options already on hand (says guy with a switch, pc, xbox, ps4, and some retro handhelds)
Too many maybe but one is missing: a new Playstation Handheld (that would be a dream of mine and the only handheld id need, still love my Vita)
Competition and choice are good but it's all so overwhelming sometimes. It feels like there's a new one of these things being announced every other month. Computer companies have plenty of laptops and desktops available, but considering what almost everyone uses a handheld PC for (Steam and emulation), the range of hardware for pc and retro specific stuff is needlessly crowded.
The ayn odin is basically a perfect device. Wouldn't mind if it had a slightly more powerful processor, but aside from that, it's perfect.
Swap in a Snapdragon 870 (same processor as the Poco F3 and F4) and we're golden.
Maximum performance with minimal throttling.
I say the same about the steam deck, because of the power and inputs there isn't a game you can't play on it
Qyo they must have been so disappointed when the portal came out
anbernic puts out a new model every other week
Someone tell Matt PonyOS already exists... it’s called FreeBSD.
It's pretty much obvious that Microsoft has an interest in the mobile console space with the announcement of optimizing windows for handhelds
It's actually raining outside while I watch this lol
🤯WTF❗🤯 HES DRINKING A RED BULL AND NOT ANY BOSS COFFEE THIS TIME 🤯❗
I'm getting between 100 and 120 on the latest Star Wars game on my top end PC. Heck, my Win Max 2 got a steady 35 fps most of the time with a few dips and spikes.
I mean, the reviews clearly depict a night and day difference with integrated RDNA 3, a number of systems are now running the mobile 7000 series and it’s a significant bump in performance, not to mention the newer generation Zen Cores…
It don't mean shit when navigating windows and inputs are gonna be horrendous on the ally, I play way more than controller only games... people are to simple minded, even the battery life is worse on the ally
Based on past products I've purchased / wanted to buy / still would love to get my hands on the 'Playstation PC' could absolutely be viable.
Granted I have no idea what the gimmick or unique integration should be but they are clever enough to come up with one. When I was deep into minidisc and purchasing a new portable player ever year (possibly some planned obsolescence there tbh of dead units after 365 days of use on the dot..) I still bought a all in one CD/tape/tuner/MD stereo because it meet my needs.
The only in Japan integrated MD PC would have lived in my dreams constantly if I'd known it's existence, and if I had the $ (and patience) to recreate my old setup now with it I totally would.
lol. Watching this now when he said. There is no way this psp is going to be remote play only
Yeah and the last time Sony tried to compete with Nintendo on the handheld side, they got kicked badly. The DS sold double of what the PSP sold and the 3ds slaughtered the Vita. Sony is best left making home consoles. There is a reason why Microsoft backed away from the handheld market. They were looking to make one back during the PSP and DS days.
The Pony OS is hilarious
When clamshells with oled?
Never .
Because Nintendo copyrighted the clamshell design
Bring back the Nokia taco
All brands will kneel
You forget the OG, the WinGPD , they are also making a more powerful version too.
When are we going to get "Building the ultimate ROG Ally"?
RIP ally owners SD cards tho
Looking forward to the Ally, but I'm beyond tired of Windows as the only viable gaming platform. Steam Deck has proven once and for all that Linux is viable competition, something we Linux users have been saying for years. The flood of Windows handhelds just perpetuates the shittiness that is Windows. I very much want an Ally, but I will be putting some form of Linux/SteamOS on it.
my guy said 720, what an insult to consumers everywhere.
wait til amazon and apple also join the handheld market
What we need is a portable device that can allow users to buy game cards. That way games can be heavily optimized while also giving the users the ability to do normal pc stuff, like how the steam deck works but better
How many of these new handhelds are really that different in terms of games and hardware features, other than price of course.
Gpd win max 2 has an oculink port that blows thunderbolt 4 out of the water for egpu. Probably the best one if you have the money and can handle the form factor.
Many of them are not that different, I would argue it is better to think of them as closer to laptops than consoles. We can have too many consoles as that implies console exclusives, whereas I would argue you cannot have too many laptops as more laptops just means more competition which implies more innovation to give your own product an edge.
The best handheld overall is definitely the steam deck, anyone saying differently doesn't know shite about pc's
@@JDabz96 that's just wrong though. It's only better at being cheap. If you're someone who has more money than what to do with it (plenty of PC gamers it seems) there are objectively better options.
@@elirantuil5003 this device restricts you to controller only games on the go.... the input are horrendous, navigating windows with a joystick Is batshit.... and it's gonna have worse battery life than the deck unless you make the settings similar to the steam decks.... you people have smooth brains. This is just windows throwing money to compete with Linux, since Linux is a superior OS... they don't want to lose there monopoly... all the fucking bots in the chat
Handheld era, somebody take me outta Africa
See I want to buy a handheld but I don't know what to get Asus or steam Deck.
The issue is it really depends on early adopters and sales. You could get the ROG and they decide to give up because Steam is outselling them. Then you're stick without much, if any support.
The ally is gonna fail in my opinion, it's do as good as the Aya neo, the deck is just better for inputs a lone, isn't a game I can't play, while the ally will cut you library down quite a bit to controller only
Would it parallel the idea of the bystander effect (except for enterprises)? If there is too much competition, the consumer get decision paralysis of which is best for them to buy, the target audience is still rather niche. Other companies might decide it’s not worth developing in (yet) especially if they need to compete with the heavy hitters?
Sony's isn't a real Steam Deck/ROG Ally handheld. I think it's just a wireless controller you can take with you to play distant from your PS5 within your house. It's less expensive than the rest of the hand helds.
I have never seen more people yelling than steam deck owners speaking about competition
Bring back the PSP Go I miss that little slidey screen!
I think Microsoft is helping bring the Rog Ally. The Person that is the Head of Xbox hardware is on the showcase panel.
Windows has to compete with Linux somehow, quite sad honestly, the device is powerful yea... but it's poorly thought out, and the lack of inputs makes the ally a joke to me, I cant imagine playing even half my game library without trackpads... they just make mouse only games so much easier
@@JDabz96 I don’t play any games that would need them so I’m fine without them. I grew up on consoles or using controllers on pc.
Eeeeh, not really. Very few are priced competitively anyways. The floodgates started with the steam deck due to its premise and options
Just hacked my 3DS. Mega Man Zero be fire
Competition is always good
Companies need to accept that the majority of the US is not capable of streaming gaming.
whatever comes next, it has to be as affordable as the steamdeck if you want wide adoption of hte device. It also needs to be AVAILABLE without pre-ordering, much like the PSP was back in the day. Plain and simple.
If Nintendo releases the switch 2, it's game over man. They've positioned themselves in such a way that people who don't know about these other companies are just going to call it a bigger switch or switch ripoff
Abxylute kickstarter is coming to an end and while it's similar to the GCloud it'd only 199.
Now I just want Oreos
6:21 It's actually quite within Sony's character to try and go after Nintendo. Sony already backstabbed Nintendo once before. The Nintendo Playstation deal went sour because Sony tried to backstab Nintendo, and Nintendo found out about it. Sony might still be a little sore after the 1991 Consumer Electronics Show where they announced that they would be making a disk system for Nintendo, and Nintendo turned around and said "Nope, Phillips is making that". Publicly.
All these options pissed off Nintendo 😂😢 RIP Skyline
I have a switch lite, but the screen is too small for me. I was thinking of getting the Switch Oled, but I'm starting to dislike the Nintendo online store. Also, over time, I've purchased several Steam and GOG games. The other day I walked into a Best Buy and saw the Asus Rog Ally, and I think I am going to go with that device instead. Its more expensive but it seems like all things considered, its a good deal for me.
For me, i dont care about tripple AAA pc games, but retro emulation dam thats amazing! Playing gamecube and ps2 is pure joy 🤓
Sony don't fk this up. We don't want a tablet for cloud service. We want a true handheld systems and people are willing to pay now $400 to $600.
i think what makes xbox and sony hesitant to make such a handheld is because they are afraid of cannibalizing their own existing console business
Where is that cactus shirt from ?
I think aya needs to cool it a bit and just concentrate on one affordable model i wanted one but i know if i wait a couple of months they will be a better model